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  • Operator

  • Good morning and welcome to the CEMEX third-quarter 2013 conference call and video webcast. My name is Vanessa, and I will be your operator for today. (Operator Instructions)

  • Our hosts for today are Fernando Gonzalez, Executive Vice President of Finance and Administration; and Maher Al-Haffar, Vice President of Corporate Communications, Public Affairs, and Investor Relations. And I will now turn the conference over to your host, Fernando Gonzalez. Please proceed.

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • Thank you, Vanessa. Good day to everyone, and thank you for joining us for our third-quarter 2013 conference call and video webcast. After Maher and I discuss the results of the quarter, we will be happy to take your questions.

  • During the third quarter, our operating EBITDA increased by 3% on a like-to-like basis compared to the same period last year. We are pleased with our continued year-over-year growth in operating EBITDA.

  • Consolidated volumes for ready-mix increased by 1% during the quarter, while cement and aggregate volumes remained flat on a year-over-year basis. Lower cement and ready-mix volumes from our Mexican operations were offset by improvements in the rest of our regions.

  • Our consolidated prices in local currency terms for cement, ready-mix, and aggregates increased by 1%, 5%, and 5%, respectively during the quarter compared with the same period last year. On a year-to-date basis, from December 2012 to September 2013, cement prices are higher in most of our major countries. We continue with implementation of our Value Before Volume strategy in all of our regions, focusing our efforts on achieving sustainable margins and returns in all of our business lines.

  • In cement, we have implemented the Gross Minus Logic, price roadmaps, and other pricing elements in countries that represent more than 80% of our volumes. In ready-mix, we have launched initiatives Companywide to promote the bundling of ready-mix prices into their different value elements.

  • As part of these initiatives, our first and most important objective in the short to medium term is to recover full freight costs in all of our markets. In cement, ready-mix, and aggregates, we will continue to improve the transparency on the value we provide to our customers through our products and services by revisiting our surcharges and service fees in each market. We are focusing on value-added products and services, maintaining our cost discipline, and outsourcing support activities. On the cost side, we are on track to achieve the targeted $100 million in savings in Mexico and Northern Europe for the second half of this year.

  • Alternative fuel substitution initiatives remain a very high priority. On a consolidated basis, alternative fuel utilization increased to 28% year to date as of September from 26% in the same period last year. Geographic mix had an important role in dampening this increase, as some European countries with higher substitution rates have grown less than our consolidated portfolio.

  • However, year-over-year substitution rates in most countries in our portfolio continue to increase. In another effort to optimize our return on capital, we announced three transactions which will strengthen our strategic footprint in Europe and enhance return on capital over time.

  • These transactions include, first, CEMEX's acquisition of Holcim's operations in the Czech Republic; second, CEMEX's divestiture of its assets in the western part of Germany to Holcim; and third, the combination of the operations of CEMEX and Holcim in Spain. With these transactions we will optimize our network of assets, increase our productivity, and extract synergies that would result in a recurring improvement in our operating EBITDA of about $20 million to $30 million per year.

  • In addition, in connection with these transactions, CEMEX will receive a cash payment of approximately EUR70 million. Needless to say, these transactions are still subject to the fulfillment of various conditions, sanctions, confirmatory due diligence, and all the approvals from competition authorities.

  • Now I would like to discuss the most important development in our markets. In Mexico, our volumes during the quarter continued to reflect the slower-than-expected levels of investment in infrastructure and housing. This has been further exacerbated by adverse weather conditions in most regions in the country, which accounted for 2 percentage points of the decline in our cement volumes on a year-over-year basis.

  • However, we are encouraged with the outlook for the country going forward, given all the recently-announced economic stimulus initiatives and investment plans; including, first, the six-year national and infrastructure plan, with a total investment of about $315 billion, and which is close to 30% higher in real terms than the spending done under Calderon's period.

  • Out of this amount, about $100 billion will be dedicated to telecommunications and infrastructure projects, including roads, ports, airports, and railways. Second, the proposed fiscal reform, which will potentially translate into higher revenues to the government, enabling it to achieve and even increase its expected investment on infrastructure. And third, the program to accelerate growth for $2.1 billion, which includes several infrastructure and housing initiatives to be implemented in the short term.

  • We are also comforted by the continued growth in private sector lending. The value of mortgage loans granted by financial institutions has increased by 9% year-to-date August, while outstanding performing loans to consumers in the industrial sector as of August increased by 8% and 14%, respectively, on a year-over-year basis. On a sector by sector basis, the industrial and commercial sector continued to exceed, with growth at low single digits during the quarter.

  • This sector continues to be supported by export-led manufacturing activity. August was the fourth month with sequential increase in non-oil exports. For the full year, we expect this sector to continue experiencing a positive trend, although at a slightly lower rate than initially expected.

  • Demand in the informal residential sector was softer during the quarter, reflecting lower bagged cement volumes to social programs as well as greater economic headwinds, which have translated into flattish wages and job creation. On a positive note, remittances from the US to Mexico, also an important driver for this sector, showed year-over-year growth during August for the first time in 2013.

  • On a full-year basis, we now expect a mid-single-digit decline in this segment. Going forward, we feel comfortable that demand from the informal housing sector will accelerate as the economy recovers.

  • On the formal residential sector, activity continued to be weak, due to continued financing constraints for both homebuilders and buyers, as well as high inventories. Having said this, housing starts grew sequentially in August for the second month in a row. August was also the first month since January to show a positive year-over-year growth.

  • Infrastructure spending continued, but at a slower price than expected. However, we started seeing a significant pickup in spending during July and August. For instance, the Department of Communications and Transportation had executed 24% of its yearly budget as of June, and increased this percentage to 43% as of August.

  • Although still not approved, the proposed budget for Communications and Transportation for 2014 is 35% higher in real terms than this year's budget. In addition, hurricanes seen in September did significant infrastructure damage and delayed implementation of ongoing projects.

  • There is still no final calculation of the construction costs, but the government is adopting some measures to speed up this reconstruction effort, including new credit lines for municipalities and the use of about $375 million which were originally targeted for the payment plan under the program to accelerate growth which could have a positive impact during the last quarter of this year. We should see public spending accelerating on the back of catch-up effects due to reconstruction efforts and the reactivation of the economy.

  • Against the backdrop of significant demand weakness, pricing dynamics have been very challenging. We continue to focus on our higher value-added products and services and emphasize our customer loyalty program through our dedicated distribution channels. We will continue to be vigilant over the pricing environment and look for opportunities to recover our input cost inflation in our core products.

  • In summary, we feel that recent economic performance and the various announced initiatives by the government led us to be cautiously optimistic about an inflection point taking place in Mexico. However, while we expect a positive demand performance in Mexico for 2014 and beyond, in light of our year-to-date volumes, we have lowered our guidance for the full year.

  • Our US business continued to be a significant growth engine during the third quarter, propelled by a healthy operating leverage and the consolidation of earlier price increases. During the quarter, our cement and ready-mix volumes increased by 7% and 8%, respectively, while our aggregate volumes fell 4% on a year-over-year basis -- unfavorably impacted by the conclusion of our aggregate supply to the Fort Lauderdale Airport project.

  • Excluding this project, aggregate volumes grew by 2% during the quarter. Quarterly cement volume growth was constrained by weak infrastructure demand, coupled with poor weather in some markets, as well as the effect of our strategy to avoid long-term infrastructure contracts with the very low prices in Texas.

  • Growth in cement and ready-mix were driven by the residential and industrial and commercial sectors. Housing permits in our 4 key states -- Texas, Florida, California, and Arizona -- are up 25% year-to-date August compared to a 19% growth rate at the national level. While growth remains strong, growth rates have eased somewhat during the third quarter in response to uncertainties surrounding the government shutdown, higher interest rates, and weather. Importantly, we believe that the fundamental factors driving the recovery in the US residential sector are intact.

  • The industrial and commercial sector maintained its positive contribution to our business in the quarter. On a year-over-year basis, construction spending for industrial and commercial rose 7% year-to-date August, and industrial and commercial demand in our key states continue to outperform national levels. While national contract awards are up 6% in real terms, contract awards for our key states are up 26%.

  • We continued to see weakness in infrastructure activity during the third quarter. Actual spending for highways and bridges is down 3% year-to-date August. This weakness is primarily due to reduced state discretionary highway expenditures and the wind-down in our stimulus funds spending. On a more positive note, contract awards are up 8% in real terms year-to-date August. In addition, we expect a recovery in transportation infrastructure spending to commence next year as states get greater clarity on the federal highway program, continue to improve their fiscal condition, and utilization in their TFA increases.

  • Prices in our main business continue to show positive momentum. Consistent with our Value Before Volume strategy, cement, ready-mix, and aggregate prices are up 2%, 6%, and 10%, respectively, on a year-over-year basis. The cement price increases we announced for the second half of the year received limited success in the market due to competitive pressures. However, absolute pricing levels are holding on a quarter-over-quarter basis.

  • Cement prices were down 1% sequentially due to mix effect. Ready-mix and aggregate prices kept growing with an increase of 2% and 1%, respectively. In our ready-mix business, we are making a conscious effort to differentiate between the price of the product and the price of the services we offer, fees; as well as the costs we incur, surcharges; in producing and delivering the product.

  • These higher fees and some charges accounted for approximately one-third of the total realized year-to-date price increase. We remain firmly committed to our goal of eliminating the chronic underpricing of our products over the last decade and continue to seek a fair return on the capital employed in this business.

  • For 2014, we have announced, again, two rounds of cement price increases and various ready-mix and aggregate increases throughout our footprint. During the third quarter, our US operations realized an incremental EBITDA margin of 78%, with revenues increasing in $65 million, while EBITDA improved by $51 million -- which demonstrates the significant operating leverage in our business.

  • Higher revenues achieved through increased sales volumes and continuous price increase efforts, coupled with our cost containment and energy mix optimization initiatives, contributed significantly to favorable operational leverage. Our alternative fuel utilization year to date as of September reached 26%, 4 percentage points higher than in the same period last year.

  • Our vertical integration platform is now paying off and is positioning us well to capitalize on the construction sector recovery. A weak infrastructure sector, rising incident rates, and poor weather affected demand during the quarter. We believe these effects are temporary. The underlying US residential recovery is intact and will gain momentum, while infrastructure spending should stabilize as we move into 2014.

  • In our Northern Europe region, cement volumes increased by 2% during the quarter on a year-over-year basis. Cement volumes grew in all countries in the region except Poland. In the cases of the United Kingdom, Latvia, and Scandinavia, this growth was in the double digits.

  • Quarterly ready-mix volumes increased in the UK, Czech Republic, Austria, Hungary, and Latvia. Regional cement prices in local currency terms increased by 1%. Sequential cement prices increased in Germany, Czech Republic, and Scandinavia; while in Latvia, they remained flat.

  • Regional ready-mix prices remained flat sequentially. We saw quarter-on-quarter increases in our ready-mix prices in Germany, Czech Republic, Austria, and Latvia, and remained flat in France. Regional operating EBITDA during the quarter increased by 9% on like-to-like basis, while operating EBITDA margin expanded by 1 percentage point. This margin expansion was the result of higher year-over-year volumes and prices as well as our cost reduction efforts.

  • We continue to roll out our Value Before Volume strategy in the region, adapting our cement production to customer needs. In the case of Poland, we continue to manage our capacity with actions, including kiln stoppages and cost optimization.

  • In Germany, the residential sector remained the main driver of the month for our products during the quarter, supported by low unemployment and mortgage rates and increases in wages. Sequential prices increased by 1% for cement and by 2% for ready-mix. Residential permits increased by 8% year to date as of July. We expect this sector to show a mid- to high single-digit growth in 2013 and continue its positive trend during 2014.

  • In the industrial and commercial sector, we saw permits declining during the second quarter, in part because of a base effect, and turning positive in July. We expect a slowdown in this sector resulting from the current macroeconomic environment. However, the industrial and commercial activity should resume growth next year. The infrastructure sector should remain stable this year and grow moderately in 2014, driven by traffic infrastructure projects.

  • In Poland, volumes during the quarter were affected by market dynamics, while the total cement market remained stable. Despite a slight sequential decline, September's cement prices are 5% higher than in December last year. The decline in the infrastructure sector is a result of a high base of activity last year, a decline in EU fronts for capital investment in the public sector, financial difficulties of some construction companies, and the delay of some projects.

  • Regarding the residential sector, falling interest rates and low inflation have still not translated into cheaper mortgage rates. This, together with lower average incomes resulting from the economic slowdown and a declining supply of new homes to the market, has resulted in a drop in demand of new loans for home purchases. For 2014 we expect the infrastructure sector to resume growth. In addition, we also expect to see an increase in industrial and commercial activity, driven by business process outsourcing projects.

  • In France, although the macroeconomic environment continues to affect demand, we saw a moderate decline in ready-mix volumes this quarter. Infrastructure activity continues to be supported by a number of highway and high-speed railways projects that started during 2012 and will last several years.

  • Pre-electoral spending in anticipation of municipal elections has been limited, as local administrations have been impacted by financing constraints and the government's target to reduce deficit. Overall, the infrastructure sector will reflect a slight decline in activity this year. In the residential sector, a declining housing starts is also expected for this year, reflecting tight credit availability and the effect of the less attractive Buy-to-Let program introduced this year.

  • In the United Kingdom, cement and ready-mix volumes continued their positive performance during the third quarter, reflecting the economic recovery in the country. The residential sector has been positively impacted by the Help-to-Buy program launched in April. Momentum in this sector should continue with the launching of the second phase of this program earlier this month. The infrastructure sector should also grow this in next year, driven mainly by road and rail projects.

  • In the Mediterranean region, we saw growth in cement volumes in Egypt and the Emirates, which more than offset the decline in Spain and Croatia. In ready-mix, we've had positive volumes in our operations in Israel and the Emirates. We continue to modulate capacity in the region based on customers' demand in support of our Value Before Volume strategy.

  • In Spain, demand for our products continue to be affected by a decline in all sectors. Despite the 2% decline in sequential prices for both domestic gray cement and ready-mix, year-to-date prices from December last year to September are up 7% for cement and 3% for ready-mix.

  • Infrastructure is still at very low levels, reflecting continued fiscal austerity measures. Decline in activity in this sector is suspected to continue into next year.

  • In the residential sector, the market is gradually absorbing home inventories. Foreigners, who account for about 17% of home purchases, are acquiring properties in coastal areas. Home prices continue to drift downwards, but at a slow pace. The residential sector should decline slightly this year, with stabilization or even slight improvement in 2014. Spain continues to be an important export platform. This has helped dampen the decline in domestic demand.

  • In Egypt, our domestic gray cement volumes during the third quarter increased by 7%. Energy and electricity disruptions continued during the quarter. On the energy side, our alternative fuel strategy allow us to operate regularly during the quarter.

  • Regarding electricity, we have been managing our production capacity to reduce utilization due to peak hours. Despite a slight decline in sequential cement prices in local currency terms, prices in September are 19% higher than December's level.

  • The year-to-date price increases has offset the increase in fuel costs resulting from the partial elimination of energy subsidies. In addition, more than 50% of our sales is value-added branded bagged cement, which also improves profitability.

  • The main driver of cement consumption in the country remains the informal sector. Infrastructure activity continued to be low. Going forward, we expect some downward pressure on our volumes, reflecting the increased cement production capacity in the country.

  • Operating EBITDA in Israel grew by 16% during the quarter. Ready-mix volumes increased by 11%, with stable pricing in the same period.

  • In our South, Central America, and Caribbean region, operating EBITDA margin grew by 1.3 percentage points during the quarter. For the first nine months of the year, EBITDA margin increased by more than 2 percentage points. These margin expansions reflect higher pricing levels as well as our continued initiatives to improve our efficiency and reduce costs.

  • In our operations in Colombia, we are encouraged with the strong volume growth during the quarter. We continue to see a strong level of construction activity despite the impact from the nationwide strikes in August that caused important disruptions in transportation.

  • In both July and September, our cement volumes increased by 15% on a year-on-year basis. During the quarter, the residential sector continued to be an important driver for demand of our products, primarily supported by the construction of the 100,000 government-sponsored Free Home Program. More than 25,000 homes have already been delivered under this program, and the government expects an additional 25,000 to 30,000 homes to be granted by year end. The remaining homes will be delivered in early 2014. Two additional housing initiatives, which include subsidies on mortgage rates on 100,000 low income and 50,000 middle-income homes, are expected to support the positive trend of the sector going forward.

  • Regarding the infrastructure sector, we anticipate a higher level of activity going forward, as some of the highway projects awarded last year are starting construction. Additionally, some projects could be accelerated in anticipation of the elections in May 2014.

  • The $250 million that were announced for infrastructure under the stimulus package should also support spending during the following months. The industrial and commercial sector continues its favorable trend, supported by the positive economic outlook, higher investor confidence, and the new trade agreement signed by Colombia.

  • Growth in this sector has been mainly driven by office space, warehouses, and industrial building construction. We are encouraged by our solid volume performance during the third quarter and continue to expect a high level of construction activity during the remainder of the year.

  • Regarding our operations in Panama, we are pleased with our performance during the quarter. The residential sector continues to be an important driver of demand. Housing construction, particularly in the middle income segment, has been posting strong growth rates; and we expect this favorable performance to continue during the rest the year.

  • In terms of infrastructure, demands for our products has been supported by several ongoing projects, such as the canal expansion, the Cinta Costera project. The Corredor Norte highway has also started construction. Several new projects in the pipeline should continue driving infrastructure spending going forward.

  • In Asia, operating EBITDA expanded by 4.6 and 4.8 percentage points during the third quarter and the first nine months of the year, respectively, driven by strong prices and higher volumes. The regional increase in domestic cement volumes during the quarter reflected the positive performance of our operations in the Philippines. The growth in volumes was driven by the residential, and to a lesser extent, the infrastructure and industrial and commercial sectors; and prices were stable sequentially.

  • The residential sector continues to benefit from stable inflation and low mortgage rates as well as strong remittances. In addition, there has been increased activity from foreign buyers. Infrastructure spending is expected to remain healthy, with projects still in the pipeline. To satisfy the fast-growing market in the country, our new grinding capacity in the Philippines of 1.5 million tons per year is expected to be operational during the second quarter of 2014.

  • In summary, we are pleased with the growth in volumes in most of our regions, which has translated into positive impact on our Value Before Volume strategy. We are pleased with the growth in consolidated EBITDA despite the continued slowdown in Mexico. We expect the cost reduction initiatives we are implementing in Mexico and North Europe will keep us on track to meet our full-year operating EBITDA expectations.

  • And now I will turn the call over to Maher to discuss our financials. Maher?

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • Thank you, Fernando. Hello, everyone.

  • Our operating EBITDA increased by 3% during the quarter on a like-to-like basis. Year to date, operating EBITDA also increased by 3% on a year-over-year basis, adjusting for the effect of the change in a pension plan in the Northern Europe region during the first quarter of 2012.

  • Operating EBITDA margin, also on a comparable basis, increased by 0.4 percentage points. This margin expansion was driven by higher prices in most of our regions, as already discussed by Fernando; our continued cost reduction efforts; as well as the continued favorable operating leverage in the United States.

  • Cost of sales plus operating expenses as a percentage of net sales decreased by 1.1 percentage points during the quarter. The decline includes a reduction in workforce and other cost-reduction initiatives. Our kiln fuel and electricity bill on a per ton of cement produced basis increased by 2% during the third quarter and by 1% for the first nine months of the year versus the comparable period in 2012. The savings achieved from using alternate fuels during the first nine months of the year reached about $92 million, or about 21% of the total cement fuel bill in the same period.

  • During the quarter, our free cash flow after maintenance CapEx reached $245 million, or 20% higher than last year's level. The year-over-year variation in free cash flow is due mainly to higher EBITDA generation and a partial recovery of the year-to-date investment in working capital, which more than offset the higher other cash items.

  • During the third quarter, we saw a partial reversal of the working capital invested during the first half the year. Year to date, working capital days declined to 29 from 30 days during the same period in 2012. This is representing a reduction in working capital investment of close to $40 million.

  • As in prior years, we expect to recover most of the year-to-date investment in working capital during the second half of the year. We already recovered part of this investment during the third quarter, and we feel comfortable in achieving our full-year guidance.

  • Our cash tax payment during the third quarter was $35 million, much lower than that in the first two quarters. Our final tax bill for this year will depend on the outcome of pending legal proceedings.

  • In the third-quarter income statement, other expenses net of $107 million include mainly impairment of fixed assets, severance payments, and a loss from the sale of fixed assets. During the quarter we recognized a non-cash foreign exchange gain of $21 million, due primarily to the fluctuation of the Mexican peso versus the US dollar. We also recognized a gain on financial instruments of $42 million, related mainly to CEMEX shares.

  • We had a controlling net loss of $155 million during the quarter versus a loss of $203 million last year. The lower loss reflects higher operating earnings before other expenses and FX gain and higher gains on financial instruments, which were more than offset the higher financial expenses, other expenses, and income tax.

  • On the debt side, total debt plus perpetual securities increased by $182 million during the quarter. This increase in debt reflects a negative conversion effect of $82 million, the premium paid for the 2016 notes as part of the August tender offer, as well as the non-cash increase in the debt portion of our convertible securities.

  • Free cash flow generated during the quarter was used mainly for cash replenishment and other corporate purposes. We continue with our liability management initiatives to lower interest expense, lengthen the average life of our debt, and reduce refinancing risk. During August and October, we issued $2.5 billion in three different transactions.

  • In August, we issued $1 billion in senior secured notes with a yield of 6.5% and maturing in 2019. With the proceeds, we paid $925 million of our 2016 senior secured notes with a coupon 300 basis points higher. We are also including in this quarter's presentation a pro forma maturity profile with the two notes issued after the quarter ended as well as the intended use of proceeds.

  • These transactions are the issuance of $1 billion in senior secured notes due in 2021 and a $500 million note in floating-rate senior secured notes maturing in 2018. These two transactions have an average yield of 6.5%.

  • The intended use of proceeds is to pay the remaining $825 million of our 2016 notes, as well as EUR220 million of our 2017 senior secured notes. These two notes have significantly higher coupons, at 9.5% and 9 5/8%, respectively. We will pay a portion of these amounts as part of the tender offers we launched earlier this month and which closed yesterday.

  • We intend to pay the rest in December, when these notes become callable. In addition, we anticipate using the proceeds to pay our outstanding 2004 notes when they become due in March next year.

  • After these transactions take place, average life of debt increases by almost a third of a year. In addition, assuming our 2015 convertibles convert, CEMEX will not have any significant maturity until September 2015. By the end of 2013, liability management exercises done during the year are expected to represent an annual cash interest savings of approximately $55 million. We continue to be comfortable with our liquidity position, with cash and cash equivalents reaching $895 million as of the end of quarter. Furthermore, we maintain over $2 billion of working capital and receivables financing facilities, which further bolster our liquidity position.

  • Now Fernando will discuss our outlook for this year.

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • Thank you, Maher. For 2013, we now expect our consolidated cement and ready-mix volumes to decline by 1%, mainly due to the year-to-date performance of Mexico. In the case of aggregates, we anticipate our consolidated volumes for the year to increase by 1%.

  • We expect the improvement in volumes from our operations in the US, the South, Central American, and Caribbean region, and Asia will mitigate to a great extent the expected weak year in Mexico, Northern Europe, and Mediterranean regions. Our cost of energy on a per ton of cement produced basis is expected to be relatively flat from last year's levels.

  • Guidance for total CapEx for 2013 is now expected to be about $620 million. This includes $490 million in maintenance CapEx and $130 million in strategic CapEx. We anticipate cash taxes for 2013 to be slightly higher compared to last year. This guidance depends on the outcome of pending legal proceedings.

  • Regarding working capital, we expect the working capital investment during this year to be similar to last year's. We also anticipate no major change in this year's cost of debt, including our perpetual and convertible securities from 2012 levels.

  • In closing, I want to emphasize three points. First, pricing trends continue to be favorable, with year-to-date prices higher in most countries in our portfolio. As I mentioned earlier in the call, during the quarter we saw an increase in our consolidated prices in local currency terms for our three main products on a year-over-year basis.

  • Second, we have seen nine consecutive quarters of operating EBITDA growth. The year-to-date EBITDA growth and EBITDA margin expansion on a comparable basis reflect an improvement in pricing and the success of our continued cost initiatives, which have more than offset the decline in volumes.

  • And third, we remain vigilant about our cost base. We continue to be focused on our Companywide efforts to improve our operating efficiencies and the value we generate from our asset base while delivering better value to our customers. Thank you for your attention.

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • Before we go into our Q&A session, I would like to remind you that any forward-looking statements we make today are based on our current knowledge of the markets in which we operate and could change in the future due to a variety of factors beyond our control. In addition, unless the context indicates otherwise, all references to pricing, initiatives, price increases or decreases refer to our prices for our products.

  • And now we will be happy to take your questions. Operator?

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Benjamin Theurer, Barclays.

  • Benjamin Theurer - Analyst

  • Congratulations, first of all, to the results; and somehow, the ongoing improvement in the US. I have actually one question on the US market and your pricing initiatives.

  • So we have seen this quarter-over-quarter sequential decline in pricing. Could you elaborate a little bit more how shift in regions impacted -- actually, the prices in the third quarter were slightly lower than during the second quarter? And secondly, on your initiatives to looking into 2014, if you could give a little bit of more guidance, where you want to basically try to increase prices, and what that would be in an absolute terms on a per-ton basis? Thank you very much.

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • I will take the first one, Maher. On the first question about sequentially, main explanation is a geographic mix, because California and Georgia volumes grew much more than the rest of the regions. And these states have lower prices than the average. So that's why. And you want to take the other one?

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • Yes. Maybe you could --- I guess one of the things that we should stress is that this whole pricing approach is a process, right? It's not something that takes place overnight.

  • And this year, the approach was to try to put into place two pricing increases during the course of the year. Unfortunately, the second round of price increases were not as successful as we would like them to be. And, frankly, we are kind of surprised and I would say befuddled as to why they did not happen.

  • Having said that, we are quite optimistic about the 2014 pricing increases that we have announced. We have announced pricing increases for January-April of next year in the range of slightly below $9 per metric ton to as high as around $16.50 per metric ton, based on the supply/demand dynamics of markets.

  • And then we announced another pricing increase for the middle of the year, in the fall, slightly lower than that. And we are very optimistic, frankly, about the early pricing increase. We have seen positive support in the Eastern part of the country, and we see many of our competitors out there with similar increases.

  • I don't know if that answers your question, Ben?

  • Benjamin Theurer - Analyst

  • No, that's okay. Thank you very much, Maher.

  • Operator

  • Nikolaj Lippmann, Morgan Stanley.

  • Nikolaj Lippmann - Analyst

  • Thanks for the call and taking the questions. A question, really, on Mexico. Can you help us -- just take us through what happened in Mexico? You started out increasing prices. Then now they end up coming down on a sequential basis.

  • Do you think that you lost market share? You mentioned that your margin is good going forward. What do you base that on? Are you starting to see orders? How are you sort of seeing the month of October so far? That's my first question.

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • Can you ---?

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • Yes. You know, Nick, we -- as you have seen, our prices have dropped a little bit in certainly the first three quarters of the year. Current prices are down about 2% in local currency -- third quarter versus second quarter, so sequentially -- due to weak demand.

  • I think it's very important to put into perspective the demand dynamics of the market. We have seen the cumulative drop in volumes is --- has been quite material. It's double digits. And in that situation -- and, of course, for the quarter, as you saw, we were down 13%.

  • So we are not happy with the reaction, obviously, at all. But having said that, I think as Fernando said during the call, a combination of using our customer loyalty programs, or emphasizing customer loyalty programs and emphasizing value-additive products, and really working with our retail distribution network, I think we have been able to do better than we would have expected, frankly.

  • So -- and we continue to be vigilant, as Fernando said, in looking at prices as the economy recovers and demand recovers, but it's been challenging. I mean, it's definitely been challenging.

  • Nikolaj Lippmann - Analyst

  • And a follow-up question, if I may. Can you give us a sense of the volume during this quarter between that and bulk? And how much is infrastructure; how much of it is retail?

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • Yes. We are roughly running around two-thirds, one-third, bagged versus bulk.

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • So it has not changed.

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • Hasn't changed in the year, yes. Hasn't changed.

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • About the same proportion.

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • Yes.

  • Nikolaj Lippmann - Analyst

  • Then my second question is -- I don't know if you can give -- there's a lot of sort of potential fiscal changes in Mexico. I don't know if you can give any sense of what the impact could be for CEMEX over the coming years, and what effects you think could be the most important of the many different things that are being discussed? Thanks.

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • Well, as you know, we still don't have a new tax reform already approved. So what we know now might be changing in the Senate.

  • But with current information -- for instance, you have heard about the carbon tax and the elimination of the IETU. Both -- I think it will have an impact, but it won't be that material for us.

  • Now, again, we need to wait until the -- not only until the tax reform is approved, but until all the rules around tax reform are defined to really completely understand the makeup -- sort of a disclosural statement on the final impact. So I'm afraid we will need to wait until the Senate approves the reform or make any additional changes.

  • Nikolaj Lippmann - Analyst

  • When I look at your capital structure, you, of course, have a lot of debt. If you are not able to use the tax shield generated from that debt, would that potentially cause you to reconsider your capital structure? In other words, could this impact your thinking around an equity issue?

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • An impact on what?

  • Nikolaj Lippmann - Analyst

  • An equity issue -- if you are not able to use -- if you have all your other tax loss carryforwards, you have a lot of debt. You keep generating tax shields. Is this at all something that you look at in terms of making capital structure decisions?

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • No, I think it's too early to --

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • I think on the NOLs, Nick, clearly, going forward, I think we are a bit -- we are optimistic, frankly, because as you can see, the upside in our portfolio between the US growing at quite a nice rate; possibly the Northern European region also growing at a nice rate going into the future, that is, those are the two areas where we actually have the NOLs. Now, there are limitations in certain parts of Europe on how much of those NOLs we can use. But certainly in the US, it's a little freer.

  • So everything else being equal, because as Fernando said, it's very difficult to comment right now. It would be complete speculation on how the new tax law would affect us. But clearly, just ceteris paribus -- going forward -- as you see healthier growth out of the developed part of our portfolio, it should actually translate -- if we don't do anything, it should translate to an improvement in our cash tax rate because of the NOLs that we have in those markets. But that has nothing to do with the current tax proposal that is being looked at in Mexico.

  • Nikolaj Lippmann - Analyst

  • Okay. Thanks a lot.

  • Operator

  • Gordon Lee, BTG.

  • Gordon Lee - Analyst

  • Thanks very much for the call. A couple of quick questions. First, on Mexico, just coming back to the pricing issue, obviously this year there was a new entrant into the market. And so I'm wondering if you feel that that has somehow destabilized or changed the dynamics through which price increases occur; and if you think what's happening now is cyclical or structural in terms of being able to push through those price increases.

  • And in the US, I suppose from your tone, you've thrown in the towel on the price increases in the second half. Or might some of those come through still in the fourth quarter? Thank you.

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • On the first one, your question on the impact of the new player -- as you saw, prices have been adjusted for about 2% in local currency. But that's countrywide. So it is the general dynamics in the country, because volumes are lower, as we have commented.

  • But we cannot say that it is a significant impact or variation because of a new player in the market. It is weak demand in general terms all over the country.

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • And Gordon, as far as the US is concerned, I would not say that we have thrown in the towel by any stretch of the imagination. I mean -- and we are constantly vigilant and trying, and we, frankly, don't react unless we receive multiple confirmations that our efforts are not working in a particular micro market or even in a -- with a particular relationship.

  • So I think we are just updating the market, and we are being upfront. And frankly, as I said, we are quite puzzled, frankly -- and especially in markets like Texas, for instance, where the pricing approach has not been met with more success. But we are definitely not throwing in the towel. We are constantly trying.

  • And as I said, I would like to reiterate again -- things have definitely improved during the course of the year. And we are very optimistic about the early 2014 pricing announcements.

  • Gordon Lee - Analyst

  • That's great. And if I could just have one quick follow-up on Colombia -- there was an article in the local press saying that you had basically decided to go ahead with the construction of a new facility in 2014, which I know is something that you have been debating internally. Is that right? Have you decided to go ahead -- not with the grinder, which is already operational, but with a new integrated plant in Colombia next year?

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • Honestly, Gordon, we have been focusing so much overnight on our results, I haven't had a chance to see the Colombian press. All I can tell you is that there has been a lot of discussion about that.

  • And certainly, when CLH did come to the market for its equity transaction, there was a contemplation at some point in time, something like that to happen. So I don't want to comment about the press article, because I haven't actually seen it. Maybe we could get back to you on that.

  • Gordon Lee - Analyst

  • Great. Thanks very much, guys.

  • Operator

  • And now we will have a question from the webcast.

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • The question from the webcast is from Mark Madura from Hartford Investment Management. And the question is, can you please comment on your level of confidence that Mexico infrastructure will accelerate in the first half of 2014?

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • Okay, I think we have commented that after a few months of a soft performance in Mexico, we are encouraged by the signs, the announcements, and the realities that we have seen the last few weeks or months. So, for instance, on government spending, I think we mentioned a 20% increase in budget execution of transportation and communications and waterworks. That happened between June and August. So that is recent news.

  • On the government's program to accelerate growth, a $2.1 billion stimulus for recovering housing pavement and other type of works, so that's also happening. Paving projects. There are 9 projects starting between September -- or started between September and October. That compares to 2 projects in the whole first half of 2013.

  • And then increasing in the federal budget during -- this is to come in 2014 on infrastructure. You know, 9% up in real terms compared to 2013 budget. And as I think we have also mentioned, that the national infrastructure plan, the plan for the whole period, 2013 to 2018, is close to 50% higher than the spending we saw under Calderon's terms.

  • So these are some of the reasons why, after the performance we have seen in Mexico during the year, will be changing or has started already changing. And it will improve -- or it has already started improving and will continue improving. We expect that will continue improving during 2014.

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • I hope that answered the question. I know this is from the web, so we can't respond. But in any case, operator, can we go for the next question, please?

  • Operator

  • Santiago Perez Teuffer, Credit Suisse.

  • Santiago Perez Teuffer - Analyst

  • I wanted to ask a couple of questions -- one on Mexico, one on the US. The first one related to Mexico is on your short-term view of the infrastructure spending. What effect are you expecting from the $2.1 billion investment program mentioned in your presentation? And yes, when are you expecting this to be deployed?

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • I don't think we have that information handy, the breakup of the $2.1 billion, let's say, on the timing. But the announcement was that it was going to be spent during 2013. But at this point in time, I don't have additional information to share.

  • Santiago Perez Teuffer - Analyst

  • Okay. And is this related to the weather effects that we saw -- the disruptions in the recovery program, or if it's apart from that?

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • Well, the disruption because of the two simultaneous hurricanes -- it's quite real. As you may know, we are expecting the government to calculate the damage and to put in place a very concrete program to support rebuilding the infrastructure that was seriously damaged.

  • So I think that by the end of this month, we will learn from the government again what is it specifically that is going to be done. And because of the nature of these damages, as you know, this has to happen almost immediately. At least part of it has to happen immediately. So we will see the benefits of those works very soon.

  • Santiago Perez Teuffer - Analyst

  • Thank you. The second one is related to the US. How linked do you think positive US pricing in the first half of the year was to housing? And do you expect pricing for your products to regain momentum even if housing remains soft, or how should we see that?

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • Just to make sure that I understood you clearly, you're asking how much of our pricing was related to housing performance?

  • Santiago Perez Teuffer - Analyst

  • Yes, exactly, from the first-half price.

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • Right. Yes. I mean, clearly, housing in the US has been the driving force behind demand. And as we said in the call, despite the recent slowing down in that market -- and we can talk about that in a second -- we think that market continues to be intact. Affordability, although maybe has deteriorated a little bit, but in relative terms it continues to be at the highest levels we have seen in recent times.

  • And our view on the housing market is that the recent delay that we have seen is more due to volatility and lack of clarity. Clearly, the government shutdown has not helped in getting people to take on their acquisition decisions. It's been very difficult to get credit approvals in that period.

  • But when you take a look at virtually all of the metrics of affordability, the housing market and the underpinnings of that continues to be completely intact. And we see that continuing into 2014.

  • So, yes, clearly that has been a big driver. It will continue to be the big driver. Now, being able to divide how much of that is coming from industrial and commercial or infrastructure, it's very difficult. Industrial and commercial also continues to be healthy. And so that's a driver.

  • And going into next year, we are cautiously optimistic about infrastructure. And because of all of that, frankly, we are quite -- we have a high conviction, I guess is a good way of saying it, about the pricing increases in the early part of the year.

  • Santiago Perez Teuffer - Analyst

  • Perfect. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Marimar Torreblanca, UBS.

  • Marimar Torreblanca - Analyst

  • Thanks for the call. My question is on the US. Assuming sequential EBITDA margin decreases due to the mix you mentioned before, and given the volume trends that you are expecting for the rest of the year and for next year, can you tell us if we should expect some margin expansion in the next few quarters? Or how do you see margin stabilizing going forward?

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • Well, definitely, we should see margin improvements, as I think Maher commented. We have seen the impact of our operational leverage in the country. Remember that it was not that long ago that even our ready-mix business was at red numbers. So it's currently -- it has already turned to black.

  • So margins had improved and are improving much faster than our volumes and sales, precisely because of our operational leverage. So definitely, we should see an improvement in margins in the US for the rest of the year and for next year.

  • Marimar Torreblanca - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • I don't know -- I don't remember exactly the number, but the operating leverage for the quarter was more than 70%?

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • Yes, about 78%, yes.

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • So we shared that piece of information just to show how the operational leverage is going to be benefiting margins in the US.

  • Operator

  • Yassine Touahri, Exane.

  • Yassine Touahri - Analyst

  • A couple of questions. First, on Mexico, informal housing was slightly up in H1. And I understand that it is now slightly down. Could you give us a bit more color about what has changed?

  • And I understand also that there is a new tax proposal on housing transaction? Is that a concern going forward for this informal residential construction in Mexico? That would be my first question.

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • On the tax concern on housing, as you know, the original reform or the original proposal included VAT for housing, buying houses, renting houses. But that was eliminated in the House of Representatives.

  • But again, as we commented on the previous question about taxes, the tax reform is still in progress, right now is in the Senate. And I think we will have the rest of the month, or we would know end of the month what the decision or the recommendation of the Senate will be. But this particular issue on VAT, on rent or buying houses, as far as I understand, is not included anymore as a proposal in the reform.

  • Yassine Touahri - Analyst

  • And regarding the reason why your informal residential is a bit recurved there?

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • Yassine, a couple of things. Number one, part of the informal housing is related to social housing programs that the government undertakes from time to time, really, on an annual basis. And an important part of the contributor to the slowdown there has been the slower contribution in the third quarter compared to last year.

  • The other thing, frankly -- the slowdown in economic activity, while salaries or wages and employment continue to be positive, has flattened out a little bit, as Fernando mentioned in the call. So that probably had translated to a bit of reluctance on demand.

  • But that is really it. We are quite pleased with the initial trend that we are seeing from remittances, although one month does not make a trend. But we are positively inclined about that.

  • And also, Yassine, one thing that is very important to mention is the lending activity in the economy. We are quite pleased by the positive growth numbers we are seeing from private sector lending, both consumer mortgages and industrial and commercial. Those three components, which Fernando talked about, in high single-digit or low double-digit growth numbers, are frankly -- are quite a positive testament about how the financial institutions feel about the health of the economy on a fundamental basis, not taking into consideration the temporary transition period that we've been going through.

  • Yassine Touahri - Analyst

  • And on the US, you mentioned that the government shutdown might have a bit of an impact on housing. You think the government shutdown could have an impact at some point, perhaps next year or in the next couple of quarters, on the infrastructure projects?

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • I mean, on the housing side, again, to put it into perspective, okay, 30-year treasuries are up 100 basis points from the first time that Mr. Bernanke talked. And if you take a look at mortgage activity, it hasn't really been -- I mean, it dipped a little bit, but then we're back to kind of almost pre-May levels.

  • In terms of infrastructure, clearly, anything having to do with spending these days is a subject of a lot of acrimony, as you have seen recently. But having said that, we do think that TIFIA -- I mean, we are definitely seeing some more project activity being approved under TIFIA. So that's a big upside, frankly.

  • If you take a look at what's happening to public construction spending, August was the fifth month of seasonally annually-adjusted rate basis increases from the prior month. So that is very positive. And this is despite almost a 70% drop in the ARRA stimulus funds from last year.

  • So -- and then the other thing to consider, of course, is that states are going from kind of weak fiscal position to positive fiscal position. Clearly, there's going to be some issues with the federal highway program. But we think, by and large, we should -- we are cautiously optimistic, let's say, about infrastructure turning around. And also, streets and highways -- you have 8% growth in contracts, as Fernando mentioned.

  • Yassine Touahri - Analyst

  • Okay. Thank you. Last question on the cost of your debt. Could the recent transaction have an impact on your cost of debt next year? And what you expect a decline, a slight decline in your cost of debt in 2014?

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • I'm not sure I understood the question. You are referring to cost of debt because of the most recent transactions?

  • Yassine Touahri - Analyst

  • Yes. Could it decline a little bit in 2014?

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • As you know, it's part of our financial strategy. And this is what we have been doing. And this year I think we were able to -- by all the notes that we issued in the year -- to reduce interest expenses starting from today. Or let's say it would be reflected within 2014 about $55 million of a reduction in interest rates because of the differential in coupons -- so for our new debt, previous compared to the former one.

  • So that's our expectation. And as you know, we have been commenting our financial strategy. I think this year we did advance a lot on it, and as Maher mentioned, assuming that our convertibles in March 2015 are converted, the only debt that is due in the very short term is the floating-rate note in September of 2015. So that is what we can expect for next year -- a reduction of $55 million in interest expenses.

  • Yassine Touahri - Analyst

  • Thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • And now we will have another question from the webcast.

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • Okay. The question from the webcast is -- and I hope I pronounce your name properly here -- it's [Barnes Halpfjor from Chapter 4 Investments]. The question is, in the US, what percent of your aggregates' infrastructure work is funded by federal dollars versus state and local dollars? Can I take a stab at that?

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • Yes, please.

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • It's roughly half-and-half, to keep it simple. Operator?

  • Operator

  • Jose Bernal, BBVA.

  • Jose Bernal - Analyst

  • Congratulations on the results. First question is related to the Colombian market. Just can you please give us a little bit color about the cement consumption mix by sector?

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • In the case of Colombia, we have -- if I understood the question correctly -- currently the largest sector is the informal residential sector, with about 40% of the market; followed by public, or infrastructure, or public spend sector, which accounts for about 35%. And then the formal residential and industrial and commercial making for the rest, with about 15% and 9%. That's about how the market -- how the sectors contribute to demand.

  • Jose Bernal - Analyst

  • Okay. And I have another question, if I may. This question is related to the new facility agreement. I know that you don't have any mandatory amortization before 2017. However, can you please remind us if there are any milestones that the Company would like to meet?

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • As you mentioned, that is due in 2017. Milestones as such, we don't have; what we don't have is a commitment on, let's say, on an additional coupon to be paid depending on the value of the share. If the share goes up to a certain value, there is some additional payments to be done in the facility.

  • But besides that, there are no other milestones or commitments on additional payments, or even anticipations of additional cost to us. That's the only part.

  • Jose Bernal - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • Jacob Steinfeld, JPMorgan.

  • Jacob Steinfeld - Analyst

  • I have just a couple questions. My first one was related to the change in the CapEx guidance. I was wondering if you could provide some color on why you lowered it, and if you are likely to increase, I guess, whenever you announced the guidance for for next year?

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • Yes, Jacob. I would say mainly the change is a trimming back of some of our strategic or platform investments that -- until next year. That's about it. And given -- as far as maintenance CapEx, we adjusted it just slightly, frankly. And it is totally within -- we are not scrimping on maintenance CapEx. So we don't see any negative impact or cumulative impact on the state of our plant equipment. And unless capacity utilization changes, the amount of maintenance CapEx that we are seeing is very much sustainable.

  • Jacob Steinfeld - Analyst

  • Okay. And my next question was on -- I noticed you took some impairment charges during the quarter. I just want to understand what those were related to. And then also related to that, I guess, when do you expect to close the transaction with Holcim and (inaudible)?

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • Well, the transaction with Holcim, as you know, is subject to several issues. But let's say on closing, the issue that impacts the most is the legal process or the EU process that they are following in order to authorize the different transactions.

  • And it seems like authorities have gone to a type of a second phase in which they would be requesting information, so they can evaluate the transaction. So we do believe then the transaction might happen the first half of next year. You know, these processes are -- and the timing on these processes might not be that exact. So through time we will continue informing on the timing and the outcome of the EU authorities' process.

  • Jacob Steinfeld - Analyst

  • Okay. And then on the impairment charge?

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • Yes, on the impairment charge, it's a little bit -- slightly under $40 million. And it's mostly on the sale of fixed assets, and it's mainly in Spain. And it has to do with some sales of plant and equipment there.

  • Jacob Steinfeld - Analyst

  • Okay. And then I know there's been some discussion on the government shutdown in the US, but have you guys quantified what the impact may be on the fourth-quarter results?

  • Maher Al-Haffar - VP, Corporate Communications, Public Affairs & IR

  • Not really, Jacob. That's kind of tough to do. I mean, I'm sure our on-the-ground guys see it very, very clearly. But we haven't yet. I mean, don't want to give you a speculative number.

  • Jacob Steinfeld - Analyst

  • Okay. That was it for me, so thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • And I would now like to the call over to Fernando Gonzalez for closing remarks.

  • Fernando Gonzalez - EVP, Finance and Administration, CFO

  • Thank you, Vanessa; and thank you very much to all. And in closing, I would like to thank you for all the time and attention. We look forward to your continued participation in CEMEX, and please feel free to contact us directly or visit our website at any time. Thank you, and good day.

  • Operator

  • And thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect, and good day.