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  • Operator

  • Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the CMS Energy 2019 First Quarter Results.

  • The earnings news release issued earlier today and the presentation used in this webcast are available on CMS Energy's website in the Investor Relations section.

  • This call is being recorded.

  • (Operator Instructions) Just a reminder, there will be a rebroadcast of this conference call today beginning at 12:00 p.m.

  • Eastern Time, running through May 2. This presentation is also being webcast and is available on CMS Energy's website in the Investor Relations section.

  • At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Sri Maddipati, Vice President of Treasury and Investor Relations.

  • Please go ahead,

  • Srikanth Maddipati - VP of IR & Treasurer

  • Thanks, Rocco.

  • Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today.

  • With me are Patti Poppe, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Rejji Hayes, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

  • This presentation contains forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties.

  • Please refer to our SEC filings for more information regarding the risks and other factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially.

  • This presentation also includes non-GAAP measures.

  • Reconciliations of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in the appendix and posted on our website.

  • Now I'll turn the call over to Patti.

  • Patricia Kessler Poppe - President, CEO & Director

  • Thanks, Sri.

  • Thanks, everyone, for joining us for our first quarter earnings call.

  • This morning, I'll share our first quarter financial and operating results and review our regulatory calendar.

  • Rejji will add more details on our financial results and outlook and as always, we'll close with Q&A.

  • Despite 2 large storms and an unprecedented polar vortex which challenged our electric and gas systems, we were able to deliver solid first quarter earnings of $0.75 per share, which are better than our plan.

  • Regardless of changing weather, economy, political or regulatory conditions, we pride ourselves on our adaptability, which enables the delivery of consistent financial results on which you've come to rely year-after-year-after-year.

  • We're pleased to reaffirm our full year guidance of 6% to 8% EPS growth based on last year's actual results and are biased toward the midpoint.

  • We're also reaffirming our plan to grow dividends in line with earnings.

  • Our predictability is enabled by our focus and commitment to our triple bottom line of people, planet and profit, underpinned by financial and operating performance, which remains a low-risk and sustainable business approach, and it continues to deliver for our customers and our investors.

  • Every dollar of our capital plan is invested with a triple bottom line in mind, and we've seen solid support for this thought process over the years, but most recently with the settlement of our gas and electric rate cases as well as our Integrated Resource Plan.

  • Our continued focus on needed investments in the safety and reliability of our gas and electric systems and our approach toward a cleaner generation fleet with the modular build-out of renewable energy has been reinforced by these positive regulatory outcomes.

  • The settlement agreement of the Integrated Resource Plan is a great example of how we work with all stakeholders in Michigan.

  • We're excited to report that our clean energy plan reflected in our IRP received a broad coalition of support, including the Public Service Commission Staff, Attorney General, our customer advocacy groups and environmental advocates.

  • Considering the complexity of this case, the parties involved and the long-term planning of our generation system, this was no easy feat, which is why I'm so proud of all the work our team has put into creating a breakthrough outcome for our company, our customers and our state.

  • The settlement lays the groundwork for our clean and lean energy future and includes the early retirement of our coal unit, Karn 1 and 2, and the scheduled expiration of our Palisades PPA.

  • The agreement also calls for accelerated energy efficiency, demand response programs and 1,100 megawatts of solar through 2024, of which half will be owned in rate-base and the other half will be contracted with a financial compensation mechanism.

  • The settlement also includes competitive bidding for future solar, so we can have the lowest cost and cleanest energy for the people of Michigan.

  • Longer-term, the plan calls for a total of 6,000 megawatts of solar and looks at battery storage in the next decade.

  • The modular and low-risk approach coupled with the iterative nature of the IRP filing process provides flexibility and will allow us to take advantage of declining costs and potential technology breakthroughs.

  • We expect the commission decision on the settlement by mid-June.

  • Looking at our calendar for the year, you'll see another successful quarter on the regulatory front.

  • This included the approval of 525 megawatts of wind in our Renewable Energy plant, the filed settlement agreement for our IRP and the commission order in our electric rate case settlement in where we have agreed to stay out of an electric rate case until 2020.

  • This quarter was just another demonstration of the strength in our regulatory environment in Michigan.

  • While we are on top of recent regulatory developments, we'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate Dan Scripps in his recent appointment to the commission.

  • We really look forward to working with Commissioner Scripps moving forward.

  • Our gas rate case is also moving along.

  • The staff having filed their position earlier this month for an additional $146 million of revenue, with support for nearly all of the investments and the O&M we have requested.

  • We'll continue to work with the staff and stakeholders in this case and expect a final order from the commission by September 30.

  • With the continued support of the MPSC staff and other stakeholders, our electric rate case settlement allowed for increased investment in electric reliability of $200 million.

  • The case was completed in just 8 months after filing and marked only the second time in our history where we settled an electric rate case.

  • The settlement also included deferred accounting for emergent work, which enables us to better plan and manage our electric distribution related to capital investments.

  • One of those reliability projects was a circuit upgrade outside of Grand Rapids.

  • As part of that project, we needed to disconnect a customer for a few hours during the week.

  • It was the home of an elderly couple and the husband had voiced a concern to one of our coworkers.

  • His wife was sick, and he was worried about keeping her comfortable while the power was out.

  • One of our field leaders, Jimmy Brady, reached out to the customer to understand his concerns better.

  • What Jimmy found was that they just needed somewhere warm to stay during this planned outage.

  • Jimmy purchased gift cards for gas and dinner and took the extra step to put the gift cards in a get-well card and delivered it to the customer, so he could care for his wife.

  • Now I make calls to customers every week to get direct sense of what they're experiencing with our team, and I heard this story for the first time on one of those calls.

  • Our customer was so touched by Jimmy's kindness that he shared the story with me, he broke down into tears.

  • He was overwhelmed because he had been working so hard to care for his wife and Jimmy's simple act of kindness hit the spot.

  • And by the way, we completed the maintenance work on time too, continuing to improve our customers' reliability.

  • We don't have a procedure 42-B that they told Jimmy how to live our purpose.

  • We just have people serving people.

  • That is world class performance delivering home town service.

  • Another great example of our purpose at work is our simple but, perhaps, unique business model.

  • Now this is not new and it has lots of runway.

  • At the core of our business model is our ability to self-fund the majority of our needed no-big-bet capital investments.

  • These needed capital investments are demonstrated by the settlements of our recent gas and electric cases and the approval of our renewable energy plan with 525 megawatts of new wind, the settlement agreement for IRP, which includes 1,100 megawatts of solar in the near-term, and staff support for the capital investments in our pending gas rate case.

  • In fact, less than 15% of project in our $11 billion capital plan are over $200 million, and half of those are renewable projects that have already been approved.

  • While we continue to grow rate base, we remain focused on customer affordability.

  • One of our key strengths is our ability to manage costs.

  • And while we continue to focus on waste elimination across all of our cost drivers by executing the CE Way, we also see significant cost-reduction opportunities as we retire coal and allow high price PPAs to expire over time.

  • Rejji will cover some of that in more detail.

  • Sales enable us to manage customer prices as our economic development efforts allow us to spread our cost over greater volume.

  • In addition to this, our energy efficiency programs help our customers reduce their usage and ultimately lower their bills.

  • We earned $34 million through our energy efficiency incentive in 2018, and we forecast it growing to $44 million as we implement our IRP energy waste reduction plan.

  • We're also able to queue-up our sales through our forward-looking rate-making process.

  • Finally, we used prudent tax planning and modest contributions from our non-utility businesses to further support our ability to deliver consistent premier growth.

  • In fact, despite investing $11 billion of capital into our system over the next 5 years, we expect customer prices to remain flat after inflation.

  • Our model has proven durable over the last decade, and we are confident in its continued durability over the next.

  • This simple model and our ability to adapt to changing conditions enables us to continue to deliver regardless of weather, the economy or other external factors.

  • Just look at our track record.

  • 10 years at 7-plus-percent EPS growth.

  • We provide consistent premium results supported by strong operations.

  • With that, I'll turn the call over to Rejji.

  • Rejji P. Hayes - Executive VP & CFO

  • Thank you, Patti, and good morning, everyone.

  • As Patti highlighted, we're pleased to report our first quarter results for 2019, which are slightly ahead of plan despite severe weather experienced during the quarter.

  • We delivered net income of $213 million, which translates into earnings per share of $0.75 per quarter.

  • Our first quarter earnings per share for 2019 were $0.11 below our Q1 2018 results, largely due to heavy ice forms experienced in our electric service territory in February.

  • Like always, we plan conservatively, manage the work and continue to be ahead of plan.

  • Despite the storm activity, utility was the key driver of our financial performance in Q1, contributing $0.80 per share, largely due to our electric rate case settlement and a relatively cold winter in Michigan, which benefited our gas volumetric sales during

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  • The utility's strong performance was modestly offset by expected underperformance in enterprises versus Q1 of 2018 due to lower capacity sales [intakes] attributable to the residual effects of the 2018 MISO planning resource auction and a planned outage at our Filer City plant both of which were reflected in our full year EPS guidance.

  • All in, we've started 2019 right on track, and we are confident in our ability to deliver another year of consistent industry-leading financial performance.

  • On Slide 12, you can see the key factors impacting our financial performance relative to 2018 in our waterfall chart.

  • Favorable weather provided $0.08 per share, positive variance versus Q1 of 2018 and rate-related net investments contributed another $0.03.

  • These sources of financial upside more than offset by the substantial storm activity, which negatively impacted earnings by $0.10 a share, the aforementioned underperformance in Enterprises and the higher effective tax rate, the latter 2 of which, in line with our expectations and as mentioned are already incorporated in our full year estimates.

  • As we look ahead to the remainder of 2019 and encouraged by the glide path to achieve our full year 2019 gas [coverage].

  • As illustrated in the chart, the absence of favorable weather last year is largely offset by the numerous cost pull-ahead we execute in the second half of 2018.

  • The remaining 9 months also include additional rate relief ahead of investments and the previously settled gas and electric rate cases and the expectation of a constructive outcome in our pending gas case.

  • Lastly, we expect to realize cost savings across the organization in line with historical trends, Enterprises' EPS contribution weighted toward the second half of the year.

  • Needless to say, we'll continue to manage the business with a focus on executing on our capital plan and identifying additional cost savings, mitigate future risks to the plan, to the benefit of customers

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  • To that end, Slide 13 best illustrates our historical track record of managing the work during periods of uncertainty to meet our operational and financial objectives.

  • As noted in the past, during periods of unfavorable weather or other sources of downside, we rely on our ability to flex operating and nonoperating levers to meet our financial objectives without compromising customer service.

  • Conversely, during strong periods, we focus on reinvestment into business to de-risk future years and achieve longer-term benefits for customers and investors.

  • Every year is different, but we manage to deliver for all stakeholders year-in and year-out without excuses based on our ability to adapt changing circumstances in any given year by self-funding the vast majority of our rate base growth over the long term to minimize the customer bill impact, as Patti discussed earlier.

  • To elaborate on the core elements of our business model, we've an extensive inventory of capital investment projects of utility due to our large and aging electric gas systems, as noted on Slide 14.

  • As we highlighted on our Q4 call in January, our 5-year capital investment program is approximately $11 billion and is largely comprised of gas and electric infrastructure upgrades and investments in [solar] generation, the latter of which was supported by the commission's recent approval to buy 525 megawatts of wind generation investment to meet the 15% renewable portfolio standard emissions.

  • Our robust capital plan will further improve the safety and reliability of our electric and gas systems to the benefit of customers, evolve our generation portfolio to the benefit of the planet and extend the runway for EPS growth to the benefit of investors.

  • It's also worth noting that our capital investment needs remain significant beyond the 5-year period as well.

  • As we work through regulatory proceedings, most notably the IRP, and our financial planning cycle, we expect that the longer-term capital mix will continue to evolve and we look forward to providing an update to our 10-year capital plan in the second half of the year.

  • As discussed in the past, we invest in our electric and gas systems at a measured pace given customer affordability constraints, so in order to execute on capital investments of this magnitude, while maintaining affordable bills, our funding strategy is heavily reliant on the identification of cost-reduction opportunities.

  • And we are confident that we can continue to deliver in this regard.

  • Historically, we've emphasized our substantial focus on reducing operating and maintenance expenses, and we've been successful there in the past through coal plant retirements, capital-enabled savings, like our smart meter installations, and attrition management, to name a few.

  • We'll continue to realize cost savings in O&M through those historical measures as well as waste elimination driven by the CE Way, among other initiatives.

  • However, we do not discriminate when it comes to cost savings, and we view every component of our cost structure as an opportunity.

  • As we look ahead, there are highly visible cost-reduction opportunities in our power supply cost through the expiration of the Palisades and MCV power purchase agreement, both priced on average around $55 to $60 per megawatt hour or roughly 2x the market loss of power in MISO, which collectively should deliver approximately $150 million of savings per year over time.

  • And in the interim, we will continue to realize benefits from modernizing our gas and electric distribution systems to reduce service restoration, gas leak repair costs among other opportunities.

  • These opportunities coupled with our perpetual search for nonoperating cost savings offer a sustainable funding strategy for our capital plan, which can keep customer bills low on an absolute basis and relative to other household staples in Michigan as depicted in the chart on [the right].

  • From our perspective, paying roughly $5 a day combined for safe and reliable electric and gas delivery in the residential channel is an extraordinary value proposition, the importance of this service to today's standard of living and the substantial cost required to own and operate these systems.

  • In addition to our emphasis on strong cost controls, our self-funding strategy also benefits economic development.

  • Slide 16 highlights our success in attracting new industrial activity in our service territory over the past [few] years, which has supplemented modest organic growth in our residential and commercial segments.

  • 2018, we attracted over 100 megawatts of new load, which was up from 69 megawatts in 2017.

  • And we're targeting another 100 megawatts in 2019 and are right on track with over 25 megawatts secured in Q1.

  • Our load growth from in these efforts will collectively offer roughly 5,500 jobs, $2 billion of investment in Michigan and included companies ranging from Internet-based retailers to manufacturers, among other industries.

  • This level of sector diversity in our new load is indicative of our electric service territory, which represents about 2/3 of our revenue and is often misperceived as highly cyclical.

  • In fact, in 2018, approximately 2% of our customer contributions came from the auto industry, as noted in the pie chart on the right-hand side of the page.

  • Our proactive efforts on economic development and strong track record of realizing cost savings to fund our growth, not only enable us to perpetuate our success for the long run, but also de-risk our financial plan in the short-term when we over-achieve in the year.

  • And over-achievement has become a habit, which is a nice segue to our 2019 financing plan.

  • On Slide 17, you'll see that our financing plan is largely de-risked for 2019 due to opportunistic transactions in 2018 and year-to-date.

  • In the first quarter, we completed just under $1 billion of debt financing [from the parent] including a $630 million 6-year hybrid issuance, which garners up to 50% equity credit in S&P at an attractive rate 5.875% pretax.

  • We've also completed roughly $250 million of forward equity issuance through our ATM program over the past 12 months, which eliminates pricing risk for planned equity issuance needs through 2020.

  • As we evaluate the potential sources of volatility for the remainder of the year, the accelerated execution of the majority of our financing plan, early settlement of our electric rate case and the aforementioned 2018 pull-aheads have reduced the probability of large variances in our plan.

  • There will always be sources of volatility in this business be they weather, fuel cost, regulatory outcomes or otherwise, and every year, we view it as our mandate to do the warring for you and mitigate the risks accordingly.

  • And with that, I'll hand it back to Patti for some closing remarks before Q&A.

  • Patricia Kessler Poppe - President, CEO & Director

  • Thanks, Rejji.

  • With our unique self-funding model, enhance by the CE Way, a large and aging system in need of capital investment, a constructive regulatory framework and a healthy balance sheet to fund our plan cost-effectively, we believe our financial performance is sustainable over the long term.

  • With that, Rocco, please open the lines for Q&A.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) And today's first question comes from Greg Gordon of Evercore ISI.

  • Gregory Harmon Gordon - Senior MD and Head of Power & Utilities Research

  • So I mean, I think it goes about saying as you've been very clear, but you had a very rare modest miss versus Street consensus in the quarter because you had such extraordinary storm activity, but given your historic ability to manage the business, you don't have any concerns about being able to bring in the earnings expectation, as you articulated for the year, just because the first quarter was challenging, correct?

  • Patricia Kessler Poppe - President, CEO & Director

  • That's correct, Greg.

  • We always adapt.

  • And as we mentioned, we're ahead of our own plan.

  • And so we're very confident in our ability to continue to deliver as always.

  • Gregory Harmon Gordon - Senior MD and Head of Power & Utilities Research

  • Thanks.

  • And then, I'm sure there'll be a lot of questions on the regulatory activity, so I'll leave that for other people.

  • I had a sort of an esoteric question.

  • On the DTE call yesterday, we talked about why they don't have -- and I don't think you guys have either -- a large amount of lithium-ion battery storage built into your expectations for future infrastructure needs.

  • And they pointed to the fact that because you guys have the Ludington storage facility and it's such a large and unique asset that it really creates the balancing capacity you need, so that battery storage may not, other than in very unique circumstances, necessarily be a big part of Michigan's future needs.

  • Is that a fair assessment or not?

  • Patricia Kessler Poppe - President, CEO & Director

  • Well, first of all, yes, Ludington is storage and it's 2,200 megawatts of storage.

  • So yes, we love that.

  • In fact, as you've been there, Greg, I know you visited the site, we have 6 of the world's largest motors at that location.

  • 6 500,000 horsepower motors, it is a sight to be seen.

  • So anyone who hasn't been there, open invitation.

  • But yes, so, obviously, we have a lot of experience actually pricing in storage on a daily basis.

  • What we're waiting for -- and I think we do see more storage and in fact, in our IRP, we have storage towards the latter half of the plan.

  • What we're waiting for is the price curve.

  • And I'm very confident that price curve will materialize, and with all of the research that's underway with lithium-ion for vehicles today, but maybe there will be a breakthrough in solid state.

  • I look forward to that.

  • I think storage is going to be important on the grid to balance voltage and do voltage control for our solar installations that are going to be distributed across the state.

  • So we are hopeful for storage and a technological breakthrough in that, but we don't need it to execute our IRP plan until the last part of the 20-year plan.

  • Rejji P. Hayes - Executive VP & CFO

  • Greg, the only point I would add is in addition to Ludington, as you likely know, we also have peaking capacity in the form of our Karn 3 and 4 facilities, which is over 1 gigawatt, so that also supports us as we flesh out the renewable plan.

  • Operator

  • The next question today comes from Jonathan Arnold of Deutsche Bank.

  • Jonathan P. Arnold - MD and Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • Just have a question on Enterprises and then that segment came in at nothing for the first quarter, and you said it's going to be more weighted to the second half.

  • Is that really going to be mostly a Q3 segment now with the shift to more of an energy contract?

  • Or is it more sort of linear through the second half?

  • Could you just give us a bit more sense on the timing there?

  • Rejji P. Hayes - Executive VP & CFO

  • Yes.

  • I would say it's certainly more back-end weighted.

  • And I would say it's more weighted towards Q3 and Q4.

  • You'll get a little bit of pickup in Q2, but mostly Q3 and Q4.

  • And the reason why that is -- Jonathan, is we had lower capacity sales.

  • And that had to do with the fact that we had to basically sell about 400 megawatts of capacity at DIG in the planning reserve auction in MISO in mid-2018.

  • And as you know, the planning year runs from basically May of the prior year to June of the subsequent year.

  • And so we got about 2 quarters of exposure in 2019 of those lower capacity sales.

  • And the reason why, as you may recall that we had to subject ourselves to the MISO planning reserve auction is that we held 400 megawatts of capacity in escrow.

  • Effectively, DIG is part of the potential Palisades early termination in 2017.

  • And so we're aware of that for a couple of quarters.

  • It's in our plan.

  • And so we would expect that, that would recover over time.

  • We already sold-through capacity through 2020.

  • And so we feel pickup some in Q2, but most of it in Q3 and Q4.

  • Jonathan P. Arnold - MD and Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • And so by extension then, Q1 of next year should probably be more positive than Q1 of this year?

  • Rejji P. Hayes - Executive VP & CFO

  • Yes.

  • You would think because, again, we've sold capacity through 2020 around $2 to $3 per kilowatt-month.

  • And so we would expect to get a more favorable comp in Q1 of 2020, certainly, versus Q1 of '19.

  • Jonathan P. Arnold - MD and Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Great.

  • And then, just one other sort of item.

  • You talked about expecting energy efficiency earnings to increase from $34 million to $44 million or so as you implement the IRP.

  • What's the timing on getting to that higher level?

  • Is it -- it's not for a year or 2?

  • Or was it sooner than that?

  • Patricia Kessler Poppe - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes, Jonathan, great question.

  • We're going to phase that in, we're going from 1.5% in our electric business energy efficiency to 2%.

  • And it's when we get to that 2% that it takes it to $44 million.

  • And that will be mid-2020.

  • Operator

  • And our next question today comes from Michael Weinstein of Crédit Suisse.

  • Michael Weinstein - United States Utilities Analyst

  • Question on the financial compensation mechanism.

  • So I realize that there's continuing talks about this.

  • But at 5.88%, that's above short-term debt, but belongs probably below the overall cost of capital -- weighted cost of capital to the company.

  • I'm just wondering if this 5.8% that was settled, is this like a kind of an opening bid, like if things go well later on, people might be more amenable to raising that number if -- as long as the markets seem okay with it -- the solar markets seem okay with it?

  • Rejji P. Hayes - Executive VP & CFO

  • Michael, it's good question.

  • So just to be clear, the 5.80%, that does reflect our WACC, our weighted average cost of capital.

  • And that was what was agreed to in the settlement.

  • And so we think that's the appropriate level for an FCM, particularly given the fact that we'll be able to own and rate base effectively half of the solar investment opportunity over the next few years.

  • And so the 1,100 megawatts that we agreed to effectively through 2024, we'll get 550 megawatts of that.

  • And then, as you know, the filing and the IRP itself is an iterative process per the statute, and so we've agreed per the settlement to file again in June of 2021.

  • So we'll see where the fact pattern is at that point obviously cost of capital moves all the time.

  • And so it makes sense to adjust at that point and suggest something else, we'll look to do that at that point.

  • Patricia Kessler Poppe - President, CEO & Director

  • To be clear, we're really excited about that FCM.

  • It gives us optionality in the best way to have the lowest cost energy delivery and supply.

  • We're very happy with the outcome of the IRP.

  • We think it really reflects our values, and we think it reflects our business model.

  • And it just allows our business model of ample CapEx backed up by our ability to do it at the lowest cost to protect customers from affordability constraints.

  • It really fits right into our plan.

  • Michael Weinstein - United States Utilities Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Could you -- I mean, could you characterize kind of what the discussions are surrounding at this point over the next month or 2?

  • What do the solar advocates want out of this process at this point?

  • Patricia Kessler Poppe - President, CEO & Director

  • Well, to be clear, what the -- there's a range of solar advocates.

  • We had the Sierra Club, the NRDC sign on to our settlement.

  • And certainly, they're solar advocates.

  • I guess, I would consider us solar advocates.

  • We all agree that solar has an important role to play here in Michigan, matches our low profile extremely well, and combined with things like Ludington and Karn, as Rejji mentioned, we've got a really nice mix of supply.

  • So the conversation has been how to do that at the lowest cost possible.

  • And we feel very excited about the competitive bidding process for the supply resources.

  • We think that's an important stand to take on behalf of the people of Michigan, that we want to make sure we have the lowest cost resources on the system and have optionality around the CapEx that surrounds that so that we can invest the next best dollar where it needs to be invested in the entire system.

  • I would say some of the large out-of-state kind of profit-maximizing solar developers don't love the outcome because they're going have to compete on price and not lean on PURPA.

  • And that PURPA loophole doesn't work, and it saddles the Michigan customers with unnecessary high-priced solar.

  • And so I would suggest that our commitment to competitive bidding really changed the nature of the discussion here in Michigan that we're going to stand for the lowest cost and cleanest energy resources for the people that we serve.

  • Operator

  • And our next question today comes from Julien Dumoulin-Smith of Bank of America.

  • Julien Patrick Dumoulin-Smith - Director and Head of the US Power, Utilities & Alternative Energy Equity Research

  • Congratulations.

  • So perhaps, just to reconcile this, just a high level.

  • The IRP, obviously, you've got just about over a gig of potential opportunity here.

  • It's split between rate base and PPA.

  • How does that reconcile with your current CapEx budget at the end of the day?

  • And then, maybe a second but related question is, how do you think about updating the needs for generation over time here?

  • What would that time line look like, and how could that reconcile against what you all have here in the IRP today?

  • And I know that's somewhat of transient question, right?

  • It will change over time.

  • Rejji P. Hayes - Executive VP & CFO

  • So Julian, good question.

  • I'd say as it pertains the 5-year plan, we don't see a great deal of, I'll say, capital investment impact in our 5-year plan.

  • So as you know, we're about just over $11 billion, most of which is wires and pipes capital investment.

  • We've got $1 billion of renewables in our plan, but that's largely attributable to win build-out basically to get to the 15% RPS.

  • And so lot of the capital investment opportunity that's coming out of this settlement agreement is really beyond this 5-year plan.

  • So you'll see some of it -- we'll take ownership of some of it kind of in the '22, '23 period, but not a great deal.

  • And it's also worth noting that you're going to have Karn 1 and 2, in the outer years of our plan, come out, if we succeed in retiring that plan in 2023, as promised.

  • And so when you think about the puts and takes, you'll see probably a net neutral impact, I'd say, in the next 5 to 6 years.

  • Now the bigger opportunity going forward is, as you look at the incremental 5 gigawatts that we'll build out over the next decade plus, I think, in your 6 to 10 of a potential 10-year plan, you'll see more significant capital investments on the solar side.

  • And so there could be upside there.

  • And again, we've talked about, in the back half of this year, offering a new 10-year plan, which likely reflects some of that.

  • And then, if you think about the capacity build-out, I'll say a couple of decades from now in our capacity plan, we're going to be losing, over time, about 4 gigawatts of capacity.

  • So you're going to see 2 gigawatts come off in the form of the MCV and Palisades, PPAs and then another 2 gigawatts come off over the next 20 years as we retire the coal fleet.

  • And so substantial capital investment opportunity on the solar side over time, and we think that offers potentially around $3 billion of capital investment opportunities, you think about the spend on the capital side through 2030.

  • So quite a bit of opportunity, but early days, of course.

  • Patricia Kessler Poppe - President, CEO & Director

  • I would also offer that the capital opportunities on our entire system are not -- we don't require all of our investment to go into supply.

  • It's not the, I'd say, the investment mix of the past.

  • The opportunity to have distributed resources is going to require a significant amount of grid investment as well to make sure that we can integrate those distributed resources into the grid and make sure that our reliability is high.

  • So the mix between distribution and supply is going to shift to distribution as well as in our gas system.

  • And so when I talk about looking for the next best place to put a capital dollar, everyone can remember and always remember that this is not a question of building up a rate base, this is a question of how best to affordably deliver the capital that delivers the customer value and customer service, the reliability.

  • All of those things are driven by how much capital is required in the system.

  • So the system needs are driving the CapEx.

  • We're not trying to backfill CapEx and searching for CapEx and using supply as a means of doing that.

  • We're trying to figure out the best way to deliver the services for customers with all the CapEx that needs to be done and to be able to do that affordably.

  • Julien Patrick Dumoulin-Smith - Director and Head of the US Power, Utilities & Alternative Energy Equity Research

  • Got it, excellent.

  • And just to clarify this, I know you've got about $1 billion-ish in the plan today for renewables.

  • When you talk down the materiality of '22, '23 solar, it's more because it's something of a rounding within the wider plan contemplated?

  • Rejji P. Hayes - Executive VP & CFO

  • Yes, that's right.

  • And so you basically, in the outer years of the plan, you'll start to take ownership of some of that 550 megawatts.

  • But again, as we always talk about, the constraint on our capital plan is really affordability.

  • And so we think based on the 5-year plan we rolled out on our Q4 call that $11 billion -- little over $11 billion of aggregate capital investments is what our customers can comfortably afford as well as our balance sheet, I might add.

  • And so the composition of that capital investment program may change a touch as we look at the outer years of the plan.

  • But I would say, for now, it's primarily wires and pipes.

  • Again, you may get a little additional solar, but we think $11 billion is right at this point in time.

  • Operator

  • And today's next question comes from Stephen Byrd of Morgan Stanley.

  • Stephen Calder Byrd - MD and Head of North American Research for the Power & Utilities and Clean Energy

  • I wanted to go back to everyone's favorite topic, the financial compensation mechanism, really interesting and really innovative approach.

  • I guess, the mechanic that ultimately got used here is a bit different than what you had proposed, but it strikes me that the result is broadly in line with the approach that you had initially proposed.

  • Is that a fair characterization?

  • Patricia Kessler Poppe - President, CEO & Director

  • That's a fair characterization.

  • At the end of the day, we wanted to -- first of all, be toward agnostic around who builds and who owns these assets.

  • We wanted to make sure that we had the proper alignment, that we have the lowest cost supply resources on the system.

  • And so conceptually, what we're talking about is making sure that the reflection on our balance sheet of our being this high-quality off-taker for any kind of contract, there's no way a developer gets that contract or the financing approved without us being the off-taker, that, that's reflected.

  • And there's an impact on our balance sheet, at least the way S&P calculates, and so conceptually, that's what the SEM is intended to represent.

  • And so we're very happy with this outcome.

  • We think it's a new standard and really gives us a position to advocate for customers fully.

  • Stephen Calder Byrd - MD and Head of North American Research for the Power & Utilities and Clean Energy

  • That makes sense.

  • And my next question is really longer-term when you think about renewables.

  • In your discussion with a variety of parties in the state, this concept of basically splitting ownership versus PPA, a 50-50 split beyond the 1,100 megawatts in kind of near-to-medium term.

  • Is that an approach you think that has buy-in in the longer run within the state?

  • Patricia Kessler Poppe - President, CEO & Director

  • Well, it is and it worked for the 2008 energy law.

  • As we filed subsequent IRPs, we could revisit it.

  • We actually didn't go in asking for the opportunity to own -- our original filing did not include an opportunity for us to be guaranteed the right to own.

  • But through the discussions -- and that's what's healthy about a settlement process, you can have really in-depth discussions with the parties to come to a conclusion that everyone really can live with.

  • And so the settlement process has served, I think, the people of Michigan very well in this scenario.

  • And certainly, you, our investors, are equally well served through the outcome of this IRP.

  • Operator

  • And our next question today comes from Praful Mehta of Citigroup.

  • Praful Mehta - Director

  • So maybe just firstly on the quarter on the storm costs.

  • This is something we've seen across the space where companies have, utilities have had challenges with storm costs.

  • What is the threshold we should be thinking about as it relates to CMS in terms of what size storms are recoverable?

  • What size storms are not?

  • And how do you see this going forward as an impact to your earnings?

  • Rejji P. Hayes - Executive VP & CFO

  • Yes, it's a good question, Praful.

  • So recoverable, I'll go about that in a couple of ways.

  • So there's recoverable in the form of what's in rates and then there's recoverable in the form of what we do have transmission and distribution insurance which also offers a little bit of risk mitigation.

  • And so in terms of what's in rates, the amount of storms that we realized over the course of Q1 is already in excess of what's currently incorporated in rates.

  • So we do plan conservatively.

  • And so in our budget, we did assume that there would be service restoration needs in excess of what's in rates.

  • And then, as you think about the insurance programs we have in place, then it's a function of the deductibles you have and whether a particular storm exceeds that deductible, and that's what allows you to get recovery.

  • And so, as you may recall, when we had the significant storm activity in March of 2017, we actually got quite a bit of claims back our way because of the levels of deductible at that point.

  • And admittedly, deductibles have gone up a bit, and so I would say that you need a pretty substantial storm activity to get insurance recovery, but we did get some recovery of the storms we saw in early February in the Grand Rapids area.

  • Is that helpful?

  • Praful Mehta - Director

  • Yes.

  • That's a super helpful color.

  • I appreciate that.

  • And maybe for the second question, you guys talked about the runway of the plan where cost management clearly is something that you guys have executed successfully.

  • And one important part of that is these PPAs rolling off.

  • I guess, as these PPAs do roll off, do you see limited scope going beyond that?

  • Or do you see this horizon of the ability to kind of manage costs and keep rates low, while you build-out in CapEx even beyond that PPA roll-off?

  • Patricia Kessler Poppe - President, CEO & Director

  • Praful, the cost savings, as far as the eye can see, and it's certainly the PPAs, I like to call those, well, I call them our cash for clunkers because those PPAs are out of market, they're high priced.

  • And when we replace those with fuel-free energy, it really is an amazing combination to grow earnings, while we're reducing costs for customers.

  • So certainly, we've got in the 5-year plan, ample cost savings.

  • But beyond that, our abilities that we are creating through our Consumers Energy Way to see and eliminate waste on-demand are still in their early stages.

  • I'm just watching the team really develop the skills to see and eliminate waste that reduces the human struggle for our coworkers as they're attempting to serve customers and at the same time reduces cost and improves the customer experience.

  • And so rest assured, there is -- our simple unique business model has lots of runway.

  • This model lives.

  • We've got ample CapEx, lots of cost yet to be reduced and then that just protects our customers from affordability constraints and enables positive regulatory outcomes.

  • It improves the service to customers every single day.

  • So rest easy, the model lives.

  • Operator

  • And our next question comes from Andrew Weisel of Scotia Howard Weil.

  • Andrew Marc Weisel - Analyst

  • Just another question on the FCM.

  • The WACC, I believe, is -- as you've previously discussed a little bit, it's relatively low at 5.88%, but I believe that's because of the deferred taxes in your capital structure, right?

  • So can you remind us what percent of the cap structure is deferred taxes?

  • And over how many years you expect to work that down to 0?

  • Rejji P. Hayes - Executive VP & CFO

  • Yes.

  • So you're right, Andrew.

  • And so the 5.88% WACC that we agreed to as part of the financial compensation mechanism, that is on an after-tax basis.

  • It does take into account, what I'll call, about 20% or just under that of deferred federal income taxes that are a component of a rate-making capital structure.

  • I can't tell you exactly when that will amortize down to 0, but I can say, directionally, as you think about the glide path for refunding customers effectively, the deferred income taxes that we collected over the last several years is part of normalization.

  • And then also as part of the settlement for unprotected assets and liabilities at some point will be returned to customers.

  • I would say you'd have a gradual, somewhere between $35 million to $45 million reduction in that deferred federal income tax component of a rate-making capital structure over the next several years.

  • So probably, 35 to 45 years depending on the asset class.

  • Electric amortizes a little faster because it has a little bit shorter useful life than the gas assets.

  • And so my sense is about 35 to 45 years is that ticks down.

  • Andrew Marc Weisel - Analyst

  • I certainly hope to not still be following your stock when that happens.

  • Rejji P. Hayes - Executive VP & CFO

  • As do I.

  • Andrew Marc Weisel - Analyst

  • You previously said you don't expect to be a cash taxpayer until 2023.

  • Is that still the case given the solar plans?

  • Rejji P. Hayes - Executive VP & CFO

  • That's right.

  • And I would just qualify it a little bit.

  • We expect to be about a partial cash taxpayer at that point and more closer to a fully -- a full cash taxpayer by about 2024.

  • Andrew Marc Weisel - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Great.

  • Then, lastly, what do you think about -- I know the plan for the next 3 years is just solar and beyond that you talked about solar and batteries.

  • What would it take for wind to become a part of that plan going forward?

  • Patricia Kessler Poppe - President, CEO & Director

  • Well, we do have 525 megawatts of additional wind that we're going to be adding to achieve our renewable portfolio standard in the near term.

  • So that's underway.

  • What we see about wind is, is it's getting harder and harder to site.

  • And so as we did the analysis for the long-term, distributed solar really matches the load curve here in Michigan, combined with -- we do have 1,200 megawatts of baseload gas, plus the Ludington Pump Storage, we have our baseload power really available.

  • And so solar, because it's distributed, because it's modular, because we can build it fast, and because that cost curve is occurring so fast that we really do see that combined with the current wind we have, the 525 additional megawatts of wind is the right mix.

  • Operator

  • And our next question today comes from David Fishman of Goldman Sachs.

  • David Neil Fishman - Equity Research Associate

  • So just following on, I think it was Stephen's IRP question, is there an expectation or a goal that when you refile in 2021 or at some other point for the larger 6- to 10-year opportunities that CMS can show effectively that utility-owned renewables is more economic than some of the third parties' prices that you expect to see or have been seeing?

  • And as a result, maybe it'll be easier in the future to get a guarantee higher than 50% for owning?

  • Patricia Kessler Poppe - President, CEO & Director

  • I think -- I would say that because of the way the law was written and then we do these ongoing filings, it does mean the plan is adaptable and can change over time.

  • If we do demonstrate that we're the most cost-effective, then I think that will be compelling.

  • What I would suggest is that being able to build 50% is a really great position to be in and being able to then deploy our capital elsewhere in other parts of our system that are in high demand really works for our model because, again, I can't overemphasize the amount of capital that the system demands relative to customers' ability to pay and the balance sheet to be able to afford.

  • It's a constant internal battle for where the next best capital dollar is and so having some optionality on the supply side actually really works for us, especially with the FCM.

  • It really is a great mix for us in our opinion.

  • And as we do future filings, of course, the plan can adapt and change as conditions change.

  • And that's really the secret -- one of the secrets, I would say, of CMS.

  • There's no big-bet strategy, modular, adaptable, changing conditions, whether it's weather or politics or the economy, this is what's special about us.

  • We adapt to those changing conditions because we can, because we don't have big bets as I mentioned, only 15% of our $11 billion CapEx plan are projects over $200 million, and half of those are preapproved renewable projects.

  • So the fact that our plan has so much flexibility in it going forward is part of our strength and part of the secret that we can continue to deliver year-after-year-after-year, that premium growth 6 to 8, reliably.

  • David Neil Fishman - Equity Research Associate

  • Okay.

  • Thank you for the very thorough explanation.

  • So that makes sense it helps to provide you a good bit of balance and flexibility.

  • One small follow-up, just a more housekeeping item.

  • I think there was a small outage for TS Filer because it's no longer going to be repowered.

  • I was just wondering does that spill over at all into the second quarter?

  • Rejji P. Hayes - Executive VP & CFO

  • There may be a touch of it that spills over into the second quarter, but I wouldn't say it's of a material amount.

  • And so it's also important to note that Filer City, yes, it's a contributor to Enterprise's performance, but it's not a significant contributor.

  • DIG really dictates the vast majority of the financial performance of Enterprises.

  • David Neil Fishman - Equity Research Associate

  • Great.

  • Okay.

  • And I think you answered before, the DIG, you all have 1 more quarter of material headwind, then it should kind of go back to being in the bilateral market second half?

  • Rejji P. Hayes - Executive VP & CFO

  • That's right, given just the timing of the planning year versus the calendar year.

  • Operator

  • And our next question comes from Shar Pourreza of Guggenheim Partners.

  • Constantine Lednev - Associate

  • Sorry about that.

  • It's actually Constantine for Shar here.

  • Yes, I was on mute.

  • A lot of great disclosure and a lot of the questions have been answered.

  • One kind of high-level on the IRP and the 6,000 kind of megawatts of long-term solar.

  • Are you thinking about kind of a sort of timing or a shape to how that gets deployed?

  • I know you talked about the 1,100-megawatt solar being a little bit more tail-end in the 5-year plan.

  • But beyond that kind of how linear is deployment?

  • Patricia Kessler Poppe - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes, it's ahead of the retirements because, obviously, we don't want to wait for the retirement date and then start to build the solar, so we front seat, I would say, the plan and then it spreads across the time horizon up to the point that our last coal unit, Campbell 3, retires.

  • And so it really is a relatively smooth, across a 20-year time horizon.

  • But just, again, as conditions change, if load materializes more or less, that's the strength of this plan that it's modular and we can adapt.

  • Operator

  • And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the question-and-answer session.

  • I'd like to turn the conference back over to Patti Poppe for any closing remarks.

  • Patricia Kessler Poppe - President, CEO & Director

  • Thanks, Rocco, and thanks, everyone, for joining us this morning.

  • And we certainly look forward to seeing you all out on the road.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • This concludes today's conference.

  • We thank everyone for their participation.

  • Have a great day.