Climb Global Solutions Inc (CLMB) 2017 Q2 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Wayside Technology Group Conference Call.

  • (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, this conference is being recorded.

  • I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference, Melanie Caponigro.

  • Ms. Caponigro, you may begin your conference at this time.

  • Melanie Caponigro

  • Thank you, and good morning.

  • Welcome to Wayside Technology's Second Quarter 2017 Earnings Call.

  • Before turning the call over to Simon Nynens, the company's Chairman and CEO, I'll dispense with the customary cautionary language and comments about the webcast for this earnings call.

  • We released earnings for the second quarter at approximately 5 p.m.

  • Eastern Time, Thursday, July 27, 2017.

  • The earnings release is available at the company's Investor Relations website at waysidetechnology.com.

  • Today's call, including all questions and answers, is being webcast live, and a rebroadcast will be available at www.waysidetechnology.com/site/content/webcast.

  • This conference call and associated webcast contain time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of today, July 28, 2017.

  • A detailed discussion of risks and uncertainties are discussed in our Form 10-Q and also in greater detail in our Form 10-K.

  • Wayside Technology Group, Inc.

  • sees no obligation to update and does not intend to update any forward-looking statements.

  • Now I would like to turn the call over to Simon Nynens.

  • Simon F. Nynens - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Thank you, Melanie, and good morning to everyone.

  • We are pleased to report solid financial results.

  • Our Lifeboat Distribution segment continued to deliver year-over-year sales growth, while our TechXtend division was down as compared to an exceptionally strong quarter last year.

  • On a year-to-date basis, our earnings per share are up $0.04 or 7%.

  • Our Lifeboat Division represented 93% of our revenue and 86% of segment income in the third -- in the second quarter.

  • Our international sales were 13% of our overall revenue, equal to the second quarter of 2016.

  • Now I would like to hand it over to Bill Botti, our Executive Vice President.

  • William R. Botti - EVP of Sales

  • Thank you, Simon.

  • As stated earlier by Simon, we had a solid quarter when compared with Q2 2016.

  • In Q2 2017, Lifeboat grew year-over-year, however, TechXtend was down year-over-year due to a strong quarter last year based upon a very large extended payment transaction.

  • Net sales decreased 2% to $103 million compared to $105 million in Q2 2016.

  • Lifeboat's net sales increased 7% to $96 million compared to $90 million in Q2 of 2016.

  • TechXtend sales for the quarter decreased 53% to $7 million compared to $16 million in Q2 of 2016.

  • This decrease was primarily due to a single $7.3 million enterprise sale in Q2 of 2016.

  • Gross profit for the quarter decreased 6% to $6.6 million compared to $7 million for the same period in 2016.

  • Lifeboat's gross profit increased 1% to $5.6 million compared to $5.5 million in the same period in 2016.

  • TechXtend's quarterly gross profit decreased 34% to $1 million compared to $1.5 million in Q2 of 2016.

  • Gross profit margin, which is gross profit as a percentage of net sales, for the quarter decreased by 0.3 percentage points to 6.4% compared to 6.7% for the same period in 2016.

  • Lifeboat's gross margin percentage decreased by 0.3 percentage points to 5.9% compared to 6.2% for the same period last year.

  • TechXtend's gross profit margin increased 3.8 percentage points to 13.1% compared to 9.3% for the same period in 2016.

  • We introduced 3 new vendors into the channel through Lifeboat, including the return of a key partner that left us at the end of 2015 to go to an exclusive distribution arrangement with a large-volume distributor.

  • While that went well for them, they recognized they were missing a key part of the market that they had through Lifeboat and elected to return to our portfolio.

  • We continue to be excited about our future as we manage our expenses and build our product portfolio to help achieve our growth targets.

  • Thank you.

  • Simon, back to you.

  • Simon F. Nynens - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Thank you, Bill.

  • Now I hand it over to Mike Vesey.

  • Mike?

  • Michael Vesey - CFO and VP

  • Thank, Simon.

  • I will now review our operating expenses and balance sheet highlights.

  • Total SG&A expenses for the quarter increased slightly from the same period last year to $4.8 million.

  • The increase was mainly due to salary commission and incentive payments to support our growth.

  • SG&A expenses, as a percent of net sales, increased to 4.7% compared to 4.5% for the same period last year, reflecting relatively flat expenses in relation to a lower sales number.

  • As Bill noted, net income for the second quarter decreased 16% to $1.3 million compared to $1.5 million last year, primarily due to a large enterprise sale we had in the 2016 results.

  • Diluted net income per share decreased 12% to $0.30 per share compared to 34% -- $0.34 in the same period last year.

  • Weighted average diluted shares outstanding decreased about 5% from the prior year, reflecting share repurchases we've made over the past year.

  • On a year-to-date basis, our net income is relatively flat year-over-year at $2.6 million.

  • And our diluted earnings per share is up 7%, reflecting the lower weighted average shares outstanding resulting from the share repurchases.

  • Moving on to the balance sheet.

  • Cash and cash equivalents was $9.7 million at the end of the quarter compared to $13.5 million at the end of 2016.

  • Our cash balance reflects an increased investment in working capital and $3.9 million of cash utilized to pay dividends and repurchase our stock.

  • The increase in working capital was mainly driven by higher receivables related to increased payment terms for one of our major resellers and the impact of extended payment term sales.

  • We've had strong sales under extended payment terms over the past several quarters, particularly in the fourth quarter of 2016 in our TechXtend segment.

  • Therefore, we incurred the use of cash to purchase the goods sold during the first part of 2017, and we'll collect the proceeds from the customer over time.

  • During the quarter, we paid $800,000 in dividends and utilized $700,000 of our cash balance to purchase about 34,000 shares of our common stock.

  • As of June 30, 2017, we had no outstanding balances under our credit facility.

  • Stockholders' equity was about $37.4 million compared to $37.6 million at the end of the year.

  • And total working capital, including cash, was $22.8 million compared to $24 million at the end of last year.

  • Additionally, we have about $12 million in extended term receivables due after 1 year compared to about $11.1 million last year.

  • We plan to continue to utilize our cash and available liquidity to invest in the growth of our business.

  • On July 25, 2017, the Board of Directors declared a dividend of $0.17 per share, payable on August 18 to the shareholders of record on August 11, 2017.

  • In conclusion, our quarter was impacted by variability in sales in our TechXtend business, but our core Lifeboat Distribution business continued its top line growth.

  • Despite the challenging comparison with the prior year's second quarter, our net income is even with last year on a year-to-date basis, and earnings per share reflects the positive impact of our share repurchases.

  • Simon, I turn it back to you.

  • Simon F. Nynens - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Thank you, Mike.

  • We're excited about the prospects of more software publishers joining us, and we look forward to growing our business.

  • Operator, we can now start with the Q&A session.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Bert Boksen.

  • Bert L. Boksen - MD, SVP, and Portfolio Manager

  • Lifeboat, over the years, has been growing nicely steadily in a pretty difficult business, and I commend you on that.

  • But this tech -- as a shareholder, this TechXtend drives me nuts.

  • One quarter, I think they're doing better.

  • And clearly, they use the company's balance sheet, but in the next quarter, it's not there.

  • Is this fixable?

  • What's the long-term prognosis for TechXtend?

  • Other than occasionally getting a big order, I'm not...

  • Simon F. Nynens - Chairman, CEO & President

  • So here's the deal on TechXtend.

  • And to just explain it to you, the TechXtend business, there's 2 parts to that.

  • One is we have the flexible payment option deals.

  • Those are our multi-year or multi-quarter kind of arrangements with clients.

  • And they come to us for the software, but they also come to us for spreading their payments to aligning them with their budgets.

  • That is a very fluctual business.

  • The core business of TechXtend is that true value-added reseller part to our clients moving from a catalog company in the '90s to now, we're installing security cameras on courthouses here locally in New Jersey.

  • So that's really -- that business has transformed nicely.

  • And you can see that there's an increase in terms of gross margin.

  • And that business in and of itself, we expect to grow.

  • It is impacted, however, you see these flexible payment option deals, by these large deals, enterprise deals that we try to get and we fuse with our excess cash.

  • We're working on with a capital firm to use third-party cash to do this business.

  • But I'm not going to say no to a $6 million or $7 million deal.

  • If it adds money into our pocket and it fluctuates, therefore, I think it's good for the bottom line.

  • We ultimately managed down to the earnings per share.

  • And like we said before, we're stewards of this company, and I'm in the same boat as you.

  • I'm a large shareholder.

  • Our long-term plan is for Lifeboat to start growing even more aggressively than it has been.

  • We believe we're in a great position.

  • The large mainstream distributors, either now in private hands or in restructuring or merging, we are -- we stay true to that core.

  • We distribute software and the hardware appliances if they tie into the software.

  • And we -- like I said, we're right on track.

  • Our customer service is really appreciated.

  • They -- we know where we go there.

  • In terms of the TechXtend business, I really think that the core business found its niche, and I'm actually pretty excited about that core business.

  • So that's where we are long term.

  • Bert L. Boksen - MD, SVP, and Portfolio Manager

  • And how -- clearly, these bigger deals are not that predictable, there's no way to manage them.

  • Is that right?

  • They just kind of come along at the whim of the customer?

  • Simon F. Nynens - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Yes.

  • Well, if we win them, there's also competitive forces at work where the other companies, large companies, some may have an incentive to -- for their sales reps to have these deals done in these 2 quarters to take any business that they can, and they come-and-go kind of mentality.

  • So we see this as add-on business.

  • We try to emphasize that in the calls we did last year as well in saying "Hey, this was influenced by a large FPO." It's more like on a year-to-date, you can make or break that quarter.

  • And Lifeboat just continue to grow.

  • And as that grows, the impact of these kind of deals will lessen.

  • Bert L. Boksen - MD, SVP, and Portfolio Manager

  • Give me -- over the years, you've never had an issue with the receivables on these deals.

  • Give me some comfort that you won't have any issue going forward on these larger deals.

  • How do you (inaudible) balance sheet on that?

  • Simon F. Nynens - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Yes.

  • Thank you, and I appreciate that you asked.

  • So our write-off history...

  • Bert L. Boksen - MD, SVP, and Portfolio Manager

  • Over the front, yes.

  • Simon F. Nynens - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Yes, over the 16 years that we've done it, I think it's less than, Kevin Scull is with me, I think it's less than $100,000, $150,000?

  • Kevin T. Scull - CAO and VP

  • Yes.

  • Simon F. Nynens - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Yes.

  • So as a percentage, it's 0.001% of all the deals.

  • Now I got to tell you, we would have done the deal with Lehman Brothers.

  • I would have done that.

  • So we try to restrict ourselves to high-quality credit, but that's another reason that we're walking into, in terms of growing Lifeboat now, we're using more and more capital to finance the growth in Lifeboat.

  • So we're looking -- listen, we had a lot of excess cash in our balance sheet, and we were and we still are looking for that right acquisition.

  • And that has heated up.

  • Like I said, we fired an investment banker.

  • We're definitely reviewing more deals than we have in the past.

  • But we have that excess cash.

  • And years ago, we said we're going to start paying some of that excess cash back to our shareholders, which we started doing with a dividend yield.

  • The excess cash that we had on our balance sheet was invested in very low-interest deals.

  • And then we found out that there are -- that we can do a multiyear deal with a client, a very, very high-respected client, and we can enhance our sales that way.

  • So we review the credit in much detail.

  • We haven't had any major writeoffs to speak of.

  • So that's where we are.

  • Bert L. Boksen - MD, SVP, and Portfolio Manager

  • Okay.

  • All right.

  • Continued good success.

  • Simon F. Nynens - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Yes.

  • But trust me, we fight as hard as we can to produce the numbers that we have in the first quarter.

  • That is our goal.

  • Trust me.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from [Peter Lux].

  • Unidentified Shareholder

  • A couple of things.

  • You and I go back a long time.

  • Maybe I'm one of your stockholders of a long, long standing.

  • And as far as I know, we've been looking for an acquisition since the year 1. So although that sounds good, it never has happened.

  • And hopefully, at some point, it will be an accretive deal, but I don't have any hopes.

  • But some of the excess cash we've been thinking about, perhaps in addition to buying shares, are bumping the dividend.

  • Now you talked about that item for an item, quarter-after-quarter, and we tend to hoard our cash, and have used it to buy shares, which is a way to give money back to the shareholders.

  • But is it right now time to sort of bump the dividend in your feel and the board's feeling?

  • Simon F. Nynens - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Peter, we have a lot of confidence in the future of our company.

  • The dividend declared was definitely discussed at our board meeting and something we will discuss again in the future.

  • We keep a very close eye on the level of dividend.

  • You and I talked, we were looking at acquisitions.

  • I think our stock price was at $3 when we talked.

  • And I also think that over the 14 years that, as you've said, you've been waiting, I think we have paid out more than $50 million in dividends.

  • We have a market cap of $90 million.

  • And if you look at our extended receivables, which is basically excess cash that we've used, including our cash, we're still at very healthy levels.

  • So we've returned an enormous amount of cash to the shareholders.

  • In addition, we've bought back shares.

  • We are a growth company that is also a cash cow, and that's rare, and especially considering our stellar balance sheet.

  • We are going to use our balance sheet to leap forward, but we have to build on a good basis.

  • And it's nice to do things very rapidly.

  • As I said before, and you met me day 1, this is a multi-decade plan.

  • This is not a 2-year plan to ramp up sales and then dump the stock and leave.

  • That was never our plan.

  • We're building a real company here and, unfortunately, that takes time.

  • Unidentified Shareholder

  • I had spoken, I guess, to Bill Botti.

  • One of the things you had talked about adding new publishers, and I had given him a significant lead, and he never followed up.

  • If he wants to give me a call, I can refresh that with him.

  • But this is a company that I know pretty well out here in Ohio that he should be talking to, you guys should be talking to.

  • So perhaps you should have him call me.

  • Simon F. Nynens - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Absolutely.

  • And just so you know, that's -- adding publishers is our #1 priority, and we manage that very closely.

  • But definitely, I think we could take it offline, and Bill can explain to you why or what progress or why there was no progress made.

  • I'm sure there is an explanation, but I appreciate your support and passion, Peter.

  • Unidentified Shareholder

  • Okay.

  • And then just one other thing and I'll just -- I'll let you go.

  • Good luck.

  • But I noticed -- there is an issue over the time, the liquidity factor, the way the stock trades, the gaps in trading and so forth.

  • And I did notice that, Kevin, who I know for a while, did liquidate some shares, and that's his prerogative, during the year.

  • I think it was 3,400 or something like that.

  • Did the company buy back his shares or did he sell them in the market, which would be more difficult than selling 3,400 shares in one time?

  • Simon F. Nynens - Chairman, CEO & President

  • No, he sold them in the market, and I've sold shares over the years and as have most people.

  • I mean, there's not a lot of shares that we all sold.

  • Those are minor amount of shares, what I feel, but I've talked to shareholders.

  • The movement of those shares is pretty liquid, if you have a large position, it's pretty liquid.

  • It's just that there's not a lot of buying and selling.

  • And we're not the only company in that predicament, there's a lot of our companies, and hence, our desire for a more aggressive growth.

  • Unidentified Shareholder

  • Okay.

  • And listen, I'll keep watching.

  • Have Bill call me and we'll talk again.

  • Good luck.

  • Operator

  • At this time, there are no further questions.

  • Please continue with any closing remarks.

  • Simon F. Nynens - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Thank you.

  • We appreciate everyone's support and attention to our -- interest in our company.

  • We look forward to reporting our Q3 numbers at the end of October this year.

  • Thank you so much.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • This concludes today's conference.

  • You may disconnect at this time.

  • Thank you for your participation.