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  • Operator

  • Good day and welcome to the Chesapeake Energy Corporation Q3 2013 earnings Conference Call.

  • Today's conference is being recorded.

  • At this time I'd like to turn the conference over to Mr. Jeff Mobley, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations and Research.

  • Please go ahead, sir.

  • Jeff Mobley - SVP of IR and Research

  • Good morning, and thank you for joining our call today to discuss Chesapeake's financial and operational results for the 2013 third quarter.

  • Hopefully you've had a chance to review our Press Release and updated investor presentation that we posted to our website.

  • During the course of this call, we will be making forward-looking statements which include statements regarding our beliefs, goals, expectations, forecasts, projections, and future performance and the assumptions underlying such statements.

  • Please note that there are a number of factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements.

  • Such factors are identified and discussed in our current Earnings Release and the Company's SEC filings.

  • In addition, we are under no obligation to update the forward-looking statements made during this call, and you should not place undue reliance on such statements.

  • We will also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures during the call and we encourage you to review the GAAP reconciliations that are located on our website and in this morning's release.

  • I would next like to introduce the members of management who are on the call with me today -- Doug Lawler, our Chief Executive Officer; Nick Dell'Osso, our Chief Financial Officer; Jim Webb, our General Counsel; and Gary Clark, our Vice President of Investor Relations and Research.

  • We will next turn to prepared comments from Doug, and then we move to Nick's comments and then to Q&A.

  • Doug?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Thank you, Jeff, and good morning.

  • We've had an exciting third quarter, one marked by significant transformation and the implementation of a new strategy for Chesapeake.

  • As a reminder, our new strategy has two fundamental tenants -- first, financial discipline; and second, profitable and efficient growth from captured resources.

  • This strategy, combined with our world class assets and talented employees, provides the foundational elements for Chesapeake to achieve our goal of delivering top quartile performance.

  • The Company is now aligned and structured to deliver differential value to our shareholders through disciplined cash flow growth, rather than an activity-focused, land-driven capital program.

  • We have recently completed an extensive review of the entire asset base and I'm very pleased with the value creation opportunities that exist in our portfolio.

  • Through the transformation process, we've maintained our focus on improved operational efficiencies and reducing capital intensity.

  • This statement is supported by solid third-quarter financial results and oil production growth.

  • Another key take away for the quarter is our continued progress regarding capital discipline.

  • In the third quarter our drilling and completion capital spending was approximately $350 million less than the second quarter.

  • We've also reduced our land acquisition spending and our production cost.

  • We still have significant opportunities to improve our capital allocation and efficiency and reduce our cash costs, which we believe will result in greater returns and greater cash flow.

  • For the quarter, Chesapeake reported adjusted earnings per share of $0.43, which compares to $0.10 per share in the third quarter of 2012.

  • Adjusted EBITDA was $1.325 billion, up 29% year-over-year.

  • On the production side, oil growth lead the way, up 23% year over year, while total production growth on an organic basis and adjusted for asset sales in the third quarter was up approximately 8% year-over-year.

  • Net oil production in the third quarter increased to 120,000 barrels per day or roughly 4,000 barrels per day greater than in the second quarter.

  • This is despite the sale of assets in the Mississippi Lime and northern Eagle Ford Shale that contributed approximately 15,000 net barrels of oil per day in the second quarter.

  • Oil production growth in the third quarter came primarily from the Eagle Ford and, to a lesser extent, the Utica, Mississippi Lime, and the Southern Marcellus.

  • The percentage of production from liquids plays increased to 27% during the quarter and the percentage of realized revenue was 65%.

  • We expect a continuation of this trend, due to the ongoing ramp up in Eagle Ford and the Utica, and the continued focus of our capital program on liquids drilling.

  • In light of better than expected oil production during the third quarter, we are again raising our full year 2013 oil production outlook by 2 million barrels to a range of 40 million to 42 million barrels.

  • With one quarter left in the year, you'll note that the midpoint of our guidance implies a projected decrease in oil production from the third quarter to the fourth quarter of approximately 9,000 barrels per day.

  • I'd like to point out a few factors underlying this anticipated sequential decrease.

  • Accelerated inventory reduction during the second quarter in the Eagle Ford, along with one month of oil production from assets that we sold at the end of July, provided additional oil volumes in the third quarter, while weather and infrastructure issues in the Eagle Ford during October have slightly reduced oil volumes for the fourth quarter.

  • Additionally, as part of our focus on discipline, we've reduced our rig count in the Eagle Ford throughout the year.

  • This short-term break has allowed us to concentrate on optimizing the drilling program going forward as we transition to a pad-based program, which we expect will lead to improved cycle times and improved project economics.

  • We have also increased our focus on well scheduling, which we anticipate will minimize downtime associated with simultaneous operations in the future.

  • We expect that these factors will combine to provide a brief pause in the growth rate in Eagle Ford oil production during the fourth quarter, with an expected return to sequential organic growth in 2014.

  • We look forward to sharing a more detailed outlook with you early next year.

  • Now I'd like to switch gears and discuss capital spending.

  • I'm very proud of the asset teams for coming in under budget for the quarter while still meeting or exceeding our production targets.

  • Drilling and completion expenditures were approximately $1.25 billion during the third quarter, roughly $180 million less than budget and $350 million less than the second quarter.

  • Spending on new leasehold was $45 million during the quarter, or approximately $50 million below budget.

  • The lower than expected capital expenditure level is partially attributable to fewer wells drilled and completed in the quarter.

  • But we are also beginning to experience capital efficiencies and lower average well costs resulting from improved operating performance.

  • Most notably in the Eagle Ford where our drilling on single well pads has decreased from approximately 65% in the first half of the year to 40% in the third quarter and we anticipate this percentage will be approximately 25% in the fourth quarter and 15% or lower next year.

  • Turning to asset sales, through the end of the third quarter, we have received proceeds of approximately $3.6 billion.

  • During the fourth quarter, Chesapeake anticipates completing additional asset sales for net proceeds of approximately $600 million.

  • Additionally we continue to pursue other asset sale transactions that may close in the first half of 2014.

  • The proceeds from sales are anticipated to be directed towards reducing financial leverage and complexity and further enhancing our liquidity.

  • We expect that further transactions will be driven by portfolio optimization rather than near term funding needs.

  • As previously noted last quarter, we currently do not see any need to issue equity and we will continue to drive greater efficiencies into our capital program.

  • These efficiencies and cost leadership are an important part of our ongoing effort to match capital expenditures with cash flow.

  • To conclude, I'm very pleased with the organization's ability to deliver on its near term production and cost targets at a time when multiple transformational initiatives have been in progress.

  • Some of the results of these initiatives are already being realized while we expect others to be realized over time.

  • As previously noted we will be providing our 2014 guidance in early 2014, after we've completed our assessment of the optimal allocation of capital within our portfolio for the year.

  • We expect to continue delivering organic production growth next year and we plan to do so with a lower capital program than in 2013.

  • I'll now turn the call over to Nick Dell'Osso, our Chief Financial Officer, for additional financial and performance information.

  • Nick?

  • Nick Dell'Osso - EVP, CFO

  • Thanks, Doug, and good morning.

  • As Doug noted, the third quarter was a strong quarter for production, asset sales and capital discipline, which enabled us to lower 2013 capital expenditure guidance and leave production guidance relatively flat, while at the same time making substantial improvements in our balance sheet and liquidity.

  • We ended the third quarter with nearly $5.2 billion of liquidity consisting of $4 billion undrawn corporate revolver, approximately $215 million of availability on our oil field services revolver and approximately $1 billion of unrestricted cash.

  • Our liquidity position improved by approximately $430 million, compared to the end of the second quarter, and by approximately $840 million from year end 2012.

  • Long term debt net of cash ended the quarter at $11.7 billion down from $12.4 billion at the end of the second quarter, and $12.3 billion at the end of the year.

  • In line with our strategy, we continue to reduce financial leverage and complexity and have a number of initiatives under way in the fourth quarter of this year that will continue into next year.

  • For example, we recently repurchased some assets that were subject to sale lease back arrangements with financial counter parties, including surface real estate in Fort Worth, as well as a package of drilling rigs.

  • Turning to costs our production expense in the quarter was $0.76 per Mcfe as we continue to do a good job of managing LOE despite our ongoing transition to liquids.

  • Accordingly we are reducing our full year 2013 production expense guidance range by a nickel to $0.80 to $0.85 per Mcfe.

  • Looking ahead, we are focused on optimizing production and returns so some of the initiatives we believe could be very positive to our program, such as work over expenses and increased usage of artificial lift, may result in some upward pressure to production expenses from current levels as we get into our 2014 development program.

  • Longer term, we aim to further optimize our per-unit production expense even as we transition to a higher mix of liquids in our production stream.

  • To accomplish this, we have established a cross functional team specifically charged with identifying and implementing LOE reduction and optimization measures.

  • With regard to G&A, many of you have seen the announcement surrounding our workforce reductions during September and October.

  • These were difficult but necessary actions to align the organization with our new operational structure and strategy to achieve profitable growth from captured resources.

  • We have also been implementing other non-workforce related G&A initiatives over the last year that will result in further cost savings, the full effect of which we will highlight for you with our 2014 outlook.

  • On the hedging front, we have been actively locking in oil and gas prices for next year via swaps and collars, as well as opportunistically covering a portion of our short oil call position.

  • We have entered into swaps covering 2014 production, to establish an average natural gas price floor of $4.23 per Mcf on approximately 640 million cubic feet a day of production.

  • On the oil side, we have swaps with an average floor of $93.79 per barrel covering about 60,000 barrels per day.

  • With regard to our long dated oil call position, we have taken advantage of low volatility and the decline in oil prices in recent days to buyback approximately half of our outstanding short call position in 2014 and approximately 35% of the position in 2015.

  • This will free up hedging capacity and provide us flexibility to enter into more downside oil price protection when and if the market provides an attractive opportunity to do so.

  • I'd like to conclude with some comments about our natural gas differentials, and in particular Northeast basis.

  • Our Company-wide natural gas differentials for the quarter came in at $1.46 per Mcf, which is an increase of $0.17 per Mcf compared to the second quarter.

  • This increase is primarily attributable to the temporary maintenance related basis dislocations that we and other operators experienced in the Marcellus during the quarter.

  • We have adjusted full year differential guidance in our outlook to reflect the basis widening we have seen in the Marcellus and to a lesser extent other basins.

  • Chesapeake has firm transportation contracts for approximately one-third of the 1.4 Bcf per day of new capacity going in service in the northern Marcellus during the fourth quarter, as we look to route production to more favorable markets.

  • Thank you for your time this morning and we will now open the call up for questions.

  • Operator?

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • We'll take our first question from Dave Kistler with Simmons & Company.

  • Dave Kistler - Analyst

  • Real quickly, just thinking about 2014 and the progress you guys have had with cost reductions so far, can you highlight for us or just give us a little bit of an indication of where you think you can see the biggest area for continued improved reduction in costs or capital efficiency?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Hi, Dave.

  • I guess the way that I would answer that for you in light of not being able to give the particular guidance by area for 2014 is that a lot of the initiatives that we have undergone have been what I call cost management.

  • And I believe that we have cost leadership opportunities in all of the areas in which we invest, and those cost leadership initiatives are going to provide us significantly better returns and better margins in 2014 as we go forward in our program.

  • So rather than focus on one particular area or highlight what may benefit, or what area might benefit from the specific initiatives, I believe that all of the areas are going to benefit and it's because of the focus, it's because of the Supply Chain synergies and the opportunities to capture efficiencies that the Company has previously been unable to do, as we move to a more efficient well-disciplined drilling and completion program on multi-well pads.

  • Dave Kistler - Analyst

  • Okay, I appreciate that, and then just based on your comment of moving to multi-well pads can you talk a little bit about maybe what that means to production, not so much the trajectory as you highlighted organic growth, but more so should we expect that production becomes lumpy or there are particular areas, perhaps the Eagle Ford or the Utica where we could see really lumpy production?

  • Just trying to get a handle on that going forward.

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Sure it's a good question.

  • As you'd expect when you move to multi-well pads your cycle times can increase a little.

  • But overall based on the focus that we have, I think that we'll continue to see some lumpiness in the program but I don't think it's going to be too different from what we've seen in the past, and my hope is that with the better planning, the better cycle time in aggregate structuring as I mentioned in my notes about the scheduling initiatives that are in place, I'm hopeful that will completely offset whatever multi-well pad drilling and completion operations could result in as far as lumpiness.

  • Dave Kistler - Analyst

  • Okay, appreciate that and then maybe just one more in the Eagle Ford.

  • Given the production growth you saw but some of the other hiccups, can you just talk about the wells that you did complete kind of laterals, costs, anything that you did differently that contributed to the strong production growth there?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Sure.

  • We had about 140 turn in-line wells in the Eagle Ford during the quarter, and which was outstanding performance.

  • We're getting into an efficiency mode in attacking the wells and how we can expedite the production, shortening the cycle times, planning for the next completions and the infrastructure.

  • So it really is a combination of all those different things that are resulting and seeing some improved performance there.

  • I'm excited about what the Eagle Ford has to offer for us, as you are aware, we have the industry-leading oil growth rate in the Eagle Ford and it's very competitive and we expect additional really good things to come from the Eagle Ford.

  • Dave Kistler - Analyst

  • Okay, appreciate it guys, thank you.

  • I'll let somebody else hop on.

  • Operator

  • And we'll take our next question from Doug Leggate with Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

  • Doug Leggate - Analyst

  • Thanks, good morning, everybody.

  • Hopefully you can hear me okay.

  • So, Doug, I met with you and your team not so long ago, and my understanding is that you've got a bunch of teams of task forces internally looking at stretch goals to bring operating cost down by something in the order of 50%, so a big goal.

  • I'm just wondering if you can give us an update as to how you see progress there and the likely timeline for delivery and I've got a follow-up, please.

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Sure, Doug.

  • We see huge opportunity there and that's something that's going to take place over time.

  • The capturing the innovation and the ideas of our field staff, the use of automation in our operations, and all of the different things we have available to us, competitive things such as our data systems that we have here in Oklahoma City, how we can optimize drilling, completion and production operations are all really, really exciting things that I believe will continue to help us on our production costs.

  • So we have set some very aggressive targets.

  • We are performing well on our lease operating expenses and production costs.

  • I'm encouraged by the progress the teams have made to date.

  • But we're not satisfied with it and we see huge opportunity there and we'll be striving for a pole position with respect to our lease operating cost compared to our peers.

  • Doug Leggate - Analyst

  • Order of magnitude and progress to date, Doug?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • I haven't provided that yet.

  • We'll be putting that information when we share our 2014 guidance there, Doug.

  • Doug Leggate - Analyst

  • Okay, great.

  • Another one for me.

  • I don't know if this is one you're able to answer with any eloquence, but the move to the core of the core, what I'm trying to do is reconcile lower spending with your comments prepared in your press release suggesting that you will still have drills next year.

  • So can you help us with the order of magnitude as to what the core of the core well profile looks like compared to let's say the average wells that you'd been drilling to try and hold acreage and I guess the key areas like the Marcellus, Utica, and Eagle Ford would be ones to focus on.

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Sure, well as you're aware, the single well pad drilling, the HBP focus to keep the leasehold and to continue to test the acreage that we have under lease initiatives have been very significant in the past several years but it has not been efficient, and so the production growth recognized from these single well pads and as we've delineated the acreage has not been the most efficient production growth.

  • That said we still have to demonstrate our ability in the core of the core to show higher quality, better returns, and offset the inefficient production growth decline that will be taking place in the next few years.

  • And so that really is the crux of the evaluation process and how we're focusing, where the capital can be directed to capture the best margins and best returns and to continue to show and demonstrate competitive growth.

  • So there's really not any other advice I can provide for you there at this point in time other than the comment that I made that we expect to see positive production growth next year with a lower capital spend.

  • Doug Leggate - Analyst

  • Okay, I guess, is this the kind of thing you'll be able to add more color on when you provide guidance, Doug?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Absolutely.

  • Doug Leggate - Analyst

  • Okay, and the final one for me if I may, the $600 million of disposals planned for Q4, can you quantify any volume impact associated with those?

  • Sorry if I missed that in early remarks.

  • And maybe an update as to how you see the order of magnitude on further disposals say, through the first half of next year and I'll leave it there, thanks.

  • Nick Dell'Osso - EVP, CFO

  • Sure.

  • Doug, just to be clear here, we're only talking about probably an impact of one month from the transactions that are slated for the fourth quarter so the production impact of those this year won't be significant.

  • Safe to say our asset sale program is still focused on assets that we consider to be outside of our primary development plans and focus areas.

  • We have a lot of great assets as you know and some of those are coveted by others including at times others that operate those assets and so this is just a chunk of assets here that we're selling that shouldn't have an impact on fourth quarter production in a material way and really shouldn't impact the trajectory going forward in a material way on what's being sold.

  • Doug Leggate - Analyst

  • And order of magnitude for next year?

  • Nick Dell'Osso - EVP, CFO

  • On this package, no.

  • I don't want to give an order of magnitude on it because, like I said, it's not going to have a material impact on the trajectory.

  • Doug Leggate - Analyst

  • All right guys, thanks again.

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Thanks, Doug.

  • Operator

  • We'll take our next question from David Heikkinen with Heikkinen Energy Advisors.

  • David Heikkinen - Analyst

  • Good morning guys.

  • You all provide really good details in your press releases in each area as far as wells completed and activity levels.

  • Could you give us kind of an outlook as far as pace in each area of what we should be reading at year-end, because just help us kind of illuminate the slowdown in the Eagle Ford and kind of what your exit rate would be from a rig count might be helpful as well in each region.

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Yes, we're really, we're in that process right now, David, of narrowing down and focusing on what exactly those rig counts are going to be.

  • At present, we're in the 60 rig range, and I think you can expect that through the rest of the fourth quarter.

  • As we look to provide that guidance in 2014, we'll be more specific about ranges in the Eagle Ford and in the other areas.

  • I think that the question is very good but without being able to provide more detail on it, what I can share with you is that we are focused on it very, very intently and making sure that the capital that we have to spend is absolutely directed at the best spot to provide the competitive growth metrics that we believe we need to achieve.

  • So your question is good but it's just you're a couple months ahead of us in being able to provide that information.

  • David Heikkinen - Analyst

  • Do you think if we just think about a run-rate and you pulled down to 60 rigs, you slow down a little bit in the Eagle Ford just because of the month of October?

  • Everything else kind of runs the same.

  • I guess the problem is in the Utica with the Natrium fire probably that slows down as well.

  • Can you give us an idea of what your current Utica production is maybe?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Yes, we've been working closely with Dominion and as we've looked there at that fire and how it's impacted us, we had provided information that suggested we were going to be in the 330 million net exit rate there for Utica.

  • We've had really, really good growth from the second to the third quarter in our volumes and with the Kensington facility starting up in December, there's an additional 200 million that will be coming available.

  • So I really I don't think that the surface related, whether it be processing, compression or infrastructure issues right there are going to materially impact our operations and rig count in the Utica, just because these are short-term in nature and we will be working through those and continuing to optimize on our own efficiencies and what we control.

  • David Heikkinen - Analyst

  • So it's just fourth quarter that it impacts?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Yes.

  • David Heikkinen - Analyst

  • And then Nick your comments on gathering and transported marketing have been a focus in the market on what's happening in the Northeast.

  • Kind of on average, your realizations on oil, gas, and NGLs tend to be a little lower than peers.

  • Can you give us a little more detail as far as how much of that is fixed and how much of that is variable just given the temporary maintenance?

  • Nick Dell'Osso - EVP, CFO

  • Well the moves this quarter are primarily due to the basis differentials in the Northeast and to a lesser extent some other basins.

  • But we had our guidance out there for what our differentials look like based on our gathering and transport contracts that are in place for the year and then I would say they were impacted again this quarter by what we saw in the way of basis.

  • So without breaking it out specifically because obviously those contracts are not all fixed, but underlie it themselves, I would just guide you to look at it that way.

  • David Heikkinen - Analyst

  • Okay, so kind of keep the same levels maybe bring it down a little bit once you get past this temporary issue?

  • Nick Dell'Osso - EVP, CFO

  • I'd like to think we should return back to a little better differential after we get back past this temporary issue David, that's right.

  • David Heikkinen - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Cool.

  • Thanks guys.

  • Operator

  • And we'll take our next question from David Tameron with Wells Fargo.

  • David Tameron - Analyst

  • Just a couple questions, Doug getting back to the CapEx comment about 2014.

  • I know you've said before in the past that your other CapEx is going to be down.

  • When you're talking about lower CapEx year on year are you just talking about E&D or are you talking about the total?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • I'm talking about total.

  • David Tameron - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Do you care to give any color on E&D?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • I would love to but you're going to have to hang with me there for a little bit David.

  • David Tameron - Analyst

  • All right, no problem.

  • And let me get back to David Heikkinen's question about you guys put out some rig projections in the second quarter, you said you'd gone from 13, going to end the year at 10 in the Eagle Ford, those type of numbers.

  • Are those still good or are those all being reevaluated right now?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Well, I think there's so many opportunities for improvement there not only with the way that the drilling and completion teams are looking at the operations and already realizing synergies and reduced cost but there's also opportunities with our scheduling and our simultaneous operations planning that's going to also help reduce cycle time and help generate that, or improve that cash on cash cycle time.

  • And so, what we're -- all of those things are weighing into whether or not we run 10 rigs or 12 rigs.

  • And as you're fully aware, the capacity of this organization and the talent that resides here, if we need to run 15 rigs in there we can do it very quickly.

  • If we decide we need to run 20 we can do that.

  • But it's going to be at a pace that gives us the optimal returns and so what we see at present is that we're at that 10 rig run-rate and there will be an opportunity to potentially increase that next year but it's not going to be at the expense of parking capital in the ground that we don't get a return on and a return in competitive near-term order.

  • So it's the pace, the returns, the quality of the investment and the cycle time are going to really drive that and what's great about it is we can run 10, 12 or 20 and have done it before.

  • David Tameron - Analyst

  • Okay, and then just last question.

  • On divestment front, you talked about the $600 million in the fourth quarter but you still have some other service piece out there, some other interests in various E&P companies, etc.

  • What's your outlook for those as we head into 2014 or even 2015 as far as I know your CapEx spend is going to be way down on the service side but can you just talk about outlook for those assets?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Yes, we're continuing to evaluate the portfolio and each of the entities and assets that are underneath Chesapeake Energy, we are working and looking closely at to make sure that the returns generated are accretive to higher corporate performance.

  • And the non-core assets that have been sold off, there are other assets that we're looking at potentially selling and it basically is going to be return-driven on the total portfolio and we're in a position where our liquidity and our cash flow generation is there's not anything that's going to be sold on a fire-sell basis or that needs to be done so we can fund our capital program next year.

  • So it will be more opportunistic in how it fits in our portfolio and I think that the best way to perhaps answer your question is, is that there are a number of other things that we're looking at because we have a high priority target to continue to improve our balance sheet and we're going to do that.

  • David Tameron - Analyst

  • All right, I'll let somebody else jump in.

  • Thanks for the color.

  • Operator

  • We'll take our next question from Scott Hanold with RBC.

  • Scott Hanold - Analyst

  • Thanks, good morning.

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Hi, Scott.

  • Scott Hanold - Analyst

  • Could I just clarify one thing?

  • In the Utica are you basically confirming your 330 million a day target exit rate, is that right?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • No, Scott.

  • It is subject to the Natrium plant and when it comes back online but I think the key there is that we're ready to go and with the Kensington plant coming on, we've got adequate capacity that we will continue to be ramping up there and it's just a near-term issue and we'll hopefully get past that pretty quickly.

  • Scott Hanold - Analyst

  • Okay, understand, thanks for that clarification.

  • And the other thing is that you all indicated at the beginning I think that you did sort of that review of your asset base and you see a lot of value creation opportunities.

  • Stepping back and looking at the context of that comment, is that sort of implying that there's just a lot of high level development opportunities there or that there's certainly a lot more monetization efforts that you can undertake as you look into 2014 and beyond?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • I think the fair answer there is that it's both.

  • We see significant opportunities for capital reduction, capital efficiency and the process that we've implemented is working very well right now and how we competitively allocate our capital for the best returns as -- I'm very pleased with the progress we've made on that.

  • And then monetizations for things that we don't see that will be a part of our investment portfolio in the next several years will be evaluated for potential monetization.

  • Scott Hanold - Analyst

  • Okay, and then would you be willing to speak specifically about some items or maybe in general like things like ownership of oil field services, Frac Tech, Chaparral.

  • When you look at those relative to CHK's other upstream opportunities, are those, would you consider those a little bit more non-core?

  • Nick Dell'Osso - EVP, CFO

  • Well we've talked about some of those assets in the past as being items that we would be willing to sell and frankly, there's no difference in viewpoint there.

  • The reality is though we have no need to rush out and just take whatever price is available.

  • So for example, on Chaparral or Frac Tech, those are assets that given where valuations are in the industry today and the structure of our ownership, we could either sell or hold for better valuation at some point.

  • They don't require us to continue to put capital into those entities and they're passive investments so we are not in a rush to sell at a bottom price and yet there are still things that we would be willing to sell, so as far as they're being non-core, I'm happy to say that's still the case.

  • Doug touched on oil field services previously.

  • Our own internal services that is and that's a business that we've owned for a long time, had a lot of success with and it's part of what we're reviewing to determine the best way to own, operate or get value from that business going forward.

  • Scott Hanold - Analyst

  • Okay, and then one more quick one if I might, more of an operational question in the Eagle Ford.

  • Are you all evaluating other formations or zones outside of the Eagle Ford, are you looking at both the upper and lower Eagle Ford, the Buda or the Pearsall, are those things you're testing at this point?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Yes, as you know, Scott we've got a significant leasehold position there and we see other opportunities as well, so I think that we'll continue as we look to improve our Eagle Ford program and performance making the progress on the things that have already been accomplished so far this year that looking at those other opportunities for additional investment, we'll be evaluating and testing through time.

  • And so you know we're also, there are a number of initiatives that are in place on our leasehold including spacing and other optimization efforts that we believe are going to pay off very nicely for us with that large leasehold position.

  • Scott Hanold - Analyst

  • Okay thanks, guys.

  • Operator

  • We'll take our next question from Arun Jayaram with Credit Suisse.

  • Arun Jayaram - Analyst

  • It's Arun Jayaram.

  • Doug I just wanted to see if you could give us a little bit of a baseline as we look towards -- you mentioned in the press release organic growth in 2014.

  • Just wanted to see if you could give us a baseline on what we should think about.

  • You had some asset sales this year just to base that organic growth on.

  • And my follow-up is would you expect to grow your liquids in 2014 relative to that baseline?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Yes, I mean we continue to expect with our focus on the Eagle Ford and other liquids plays that we'll continue to grow our liquids.

  • Arun Jayaram - Analyst

  • And again, just trying to understand what the baseline for that growth would be given the asset sales that you've done in 2013.

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Sure well the organic growth rate in the third quarter was 8%.

  • And so when you look at the divestitures and things that we can be potentially looking at next year, that's why we have said that we have confidence that will be able to continue to show positive growth with the reduced capital in 2014.

  • Arun Jayaram - Analyst

  • Just to clarify, Doug I'm trying to understand when you're talking about organic growth and as we look to our models do we just assume your actual reported results in 2014, are you parsing out the impact of asset sales?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Well yes, when you look at it, same-store sales is what we're describing as organic growth.

  • But if you look at it in an aggregate basis as well, we still are evaluating it with plans that we will continue to see growth next year.

  • So without being able to provide you the exact detail just yet, we have to continue to defer to when that guidance will be provided and that detail's coming shortly.

  • Arun Jayaram - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Fair enough.

  • And just a follow-up as you think about potentially doing something with your oil service assets per se.

  • Obviously that's perhaps helped you in terms of thinking about efficiencies but as you know, Doug the oil service multiples are quite a bit lower than Chesapeake's current multiples.

  • So just wondering if you could talk about maybe some of the positives of separating oil field services from some of the actual on the flip side some of the negatives.

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Well, as Nick highlighted, it's the oil field services have provided a very good competitive advantage for Chesapeake and we've seen tremendous synergies by having those assets in the Company.

  • And part of our ongoing evaluation there includes, with our new strategy, how can we best optimize with those assets as a part of the Company and so it's under review and we're going to continue to evaluate it because the driver there is that with all of our assets, we're going to make sure that we get the best returns on all of the capital that we spend and our direction in trying to be a better performer and a top quartile performer.

  • So it's under review and at this point in time, that's really all of the more color I can provide on it and we'll share more with you when we can.

  • Arun Jayaram - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks a lot.

  • Operator

  • We'll take our next question from Neal Dingmann with SunTrust.

  • Neal Dingmann - Analyst

  • Good morning guys.

  • Say, Doug just wondering on, as far as lease expenditures, your thoughts on next year versus this year, how you see that.

  • I mean clearly, you've got the capital reduction plan in place but just wondering still on leases what your thoughts are.

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Sure.

  • The Company still has a very significant leasehold and as we are going through this process of evaluating where the capital will be allocated next year, some of that leasehold will continue to be developed, some of it will be tested for whatever technology or synergies that we can push to those areas to capture value in the future and some of the leasehold won't make it in our cut.

  • And so we've got an ongoing process that we will be continuing to evaluate and that evaluation will include current operations and what we can do with it to get the best returns.

  • And it will also include how technology and innovation can be applied and in some cases, if it's very long dated or we don't see getting to it, we'll actually sell it or relinquish it.

  • So, the the key there is we're not going to be a land-driven Company.

  • Neal Dingmann - Analyst

  • Good.

  • Good point.

  • Okay and then just one other question.

  • Turning over to the Utica, you've got a good slide on 13 that basically lays out the midstream development there.

  • Your thoughts, I mean is that now when you look at it sort of going forward keeping up to your activity there or are you still resting some of these wells maybe perhaps a little bit longer than you would waiting on some midstream?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • It's improving and I think what you'll see is continued improvements with the additional facilities and processing that's being built out and it will be in place at the latter part of this year.

  • So I think that that story and matching the cycle times and the optimum investment rate there, the rig count and all, is under close review and I believe it will be very close to optimized in 2014 but we're not quite there but with all of the infrastructure that's being put in place it will be in service here in the latter part of fourth quarter, first part of next year.

  • We don't see that materially impacting the pace that we've got scheduled at this point in time.

  • Neal Dingmann - Analyst

  • Great comments.

  • Thank you all.

  • Operator

  • We'll take our next question from Peter Kissel with Howard Weil.

  • Peter Kissel - Analyst

  • Hi, good morning, guys.

  • Nick one more question on the balance sheet, please.

  • It seems like you're pretty comfortable with the current leverage levels and of course you've got the $600 million coming in the door over the next quarter or so, so it seems like your plan is to basically just drill your way to a less levered balance sheet.

  • Am I reading that correctly or is there some more sort of drastic de-levering event to look for in 2014?

  • Nick Dell'Osso - EVP, CFO

  • Well, Peter, when you say we're comfortable with our current level of leverage I guess I'd answer that in two ways.

  • One, I don't feel any current pressure in the market relative to our current level of leverage and obviously, credit markets are favorable, cost of debt is favorable.

  • However, for the long run we believe our balance sheet has too much debt on it and we have a strategic goal to reduce that.

  • So as we look at our portfolio and as we identify the assets that we believe are not optimal for us to own, and like we said, we think there are several that over the course of the next many months and maybe years we'll be in a position where we would like to sell them, we expect that a number of those proceeds will go towards reducing the leverage on our balance sheet.

  • And when I say the leverage on our balance sheet, I've commented that we're looking at overall debt, we're looking at cash commitments in the future, so in my prepared comments I talked about having reduced some sale lease backs on some rigs which are not debt, they are operating leases but yet they are a structure that's in place that gets in the way of exactly how we own our assets and has a cash costs to us.

  • It's carried out into the future and it's a simpler way for us to look at our Company without those leases in place at the moment, and we believe we bought them back at relatively attractive prices from an MPV perspective it makes sense for us to do so.

  • So that's how we'll continue to think about this.

  • We want our balance sheet to be smaller on the leverage side and we want our overall structure, capital structure, to be simpler and we can do that with the proceeds from asset sales.

  • We can do it from the proceeds that are thrown off from the business over time and we'll continue to do so.

  • But there's no real sense of urgency in that, we're not rushing out to create something to make it happen immediately.

  • Peter Kissel - Analyst

  • Got you.

  • Thanks, Nick and then one other question.

  • There's been a lot of talk on efficiencies but I was wondering if you wouldn't mind just drilling down a little bit deeper and talking about some of the completion optimization initiatives.

  • Not so much on the pad drilling but more on the actual well designs.

  • Any sort of reduced Frac spacing or anything like that in particular that you're using across the portfolio that's really driving better performance, better IRRs and what not?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Yes, it's a great question.

  • I think that the best way to look at that is that the efficiencies that the industry has captured over the past several years, we're just at the beginning stages of, whether it be the amount of sand pumped, the spacing, the cluster spacing, the fluids, we have so many opportunities to continue to improve and optimize our program.

  • And each of those things are under evaluation and review, and I think we'll continue to see in all of the areas as we narrow down and begin some of these optimization plans, that frankly we have not been able to do up to this point in time because we've been more focused on how to hold the leases.

  • So this is a huge opportunity for us, huge in respect to cost, huge in respect to estimated ultimate recovery and really, it captures almost every single aspect of completion design that you can think of that is being evaluated and reviewed here.

  • But I'll also note that there isn't anything out there in industry that's taking place that Chesapeake has not tried or participated in.

  • So even though we might be on a single well pad and away from the best acreage testing new ideas and continuing to look for ways to improve it have been part of our program, it's just the focus now as we concentrate in these higher quality areas is going to give us a better return.

  • Peter Kissel - Analyst

  • Great, thanks again.

  • Operator

  • We'll take our next question from Mike Kelly with Global Hunter Securities.

  • Mike Kelly - Analyst

  • Thanks guys, good morning.

  • I was hoping you could give us a bit of a look under the hood in the current capital allocation process that you're going through right now.

  • I think it would be helpful just to hear you compare and contrast it to how it's being approached today versus maybe how it has been done at Chesapeake in years past.

  • And then just I'd like to gauge if this is a process that you think will ultimately yield some potentially meaningful swings in how you allocate capital or spray capital around across your core basins in 2014.

  • Thanks.

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • That's a great question.

  • The capital allocation process in the past has been primarily directed at how we continue to maintain and hold the leasehold and while there have been some benefits to that, it has not been the most efficient.

  • And the focus now with the competitive capital allocation process is to ensure that all of our dollars are directed where the best returns are achievable and that includes a rigorous post appraisal process, it includes that we will lay rigs down in certain areas if the investment in the wells are not performing as we expected, and so it's a very, very strong difference from capital allocation in the past.

  • And I'll also note that the capital allocation and competitive funding is not going to be based on additional debt instruments that can be secured, whether it be conventional or creative ideas to execute our program.

  • And so it's really going to the fundamentals necessary to drive value and focusing in the high quality assets that we have and we're excited about it.

  • We think there's just a tremendous amount of opportunity.

  • Mike Kelly - Analyst

  • Okay, great.

  • Just one on the Utica here, you know the bulk of your activity to date has been focused in Carroll County but you do have a decent amount of acreage further to the Southwest portion of the play where we're seeing really strong projections in terms of IRRs from some of your competitors.

  • Just hoping you could maybe give us a sense of what you expect that the difference in returns to be in Carroll County versus maybe what you have in the Southwest, I think that would be helpful, thank you.

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Yes, we don't, we won't provide that information at this time, as we look forward to providing guidance in 2014, we'll have some additional asset review that can give you a little more color on that, okay?

  • Mike Kelly - Analyst

  • Fair enough.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • We'll take our next question from Matt Portillo with TPH.

  • Matthew Portillo - Analyst

  • Good morning.

  • Just a few quick questions for me.

  • I just wanted to confirm in the prepared remarks, did you mention that LOE would be potentially up on work overs in 2014?

  • And then a second follow-up question, just in regards to your longer term LOE initiatives.

  • I was curious from the $0.75, $0.76 per Mcf that you currently have today, what do you view as kind of leading edge LOE or kind of top tier LOE targets from your peers with this similar type of production mix?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Yes, you bet.

  • The point there we were trying to make is that the work over expenses and the opportunities there we also see a significant amount of opportunity there with our base volumes.

  • And the point there is that there is a lot of value in it.

  • And so if we were to see a higher LOE, it's going to be because we're capturing greater value with a work over program that's going to yield good results for us.

  • And the point there is that as we continue to evaluate our production cost, that's an important element that we want to capture the greatest amount of value from.

  • It's what we're saying though, is there's also, in addition to that, significant opportunities, we've lowered those costs and we see opportunities going forward to further reduce those costs.

  • So your question, we're not trying to signal it's going to be higher.

  • What we're signaling is we're going to capture the greatest value we can.

  • And so then to your second question, the plan going forward, what I consider to be top quartile type of LOE performance is going to be in the $2 to $3 per BOE or kind of in that $0.60 range.

  • So that just gives you a little direction on guidance, where we are targeting to continue to drive our costs down.

  • And I'm very excited about a team that we've got in place that's looking at all of the areas and whether it's standardization, knowledge sharing, best practices, with respect to all of the different operations in the field that will result in driving those costs down.

  • Matthew Portillo - Analyst

  • Great, and then Doug, just there's been a big buildup of inventory over time and I know you guys have done a good job of working that down.

  • I think just skimming through the release you have about 500 wells left in kind of your backlog.

  • I was hoping that we could get a little bit more color in terms of where you think that ultimately should move to, what's an appropriate level of kind of sunk capital in the ground.

  • I know you guys are trying to reduce that as a bigger strategic initiative.

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • It's a very good question and inventory depends on several things.

  • It will depend on the rig count in the area, on infrastructure in the area, and our plan is to optimize that.

  • I'll just go back to that comment about making sure that we're not parking capital in the ground, that we not getting a return on as quickly as possible.

  • So the inventory levels particularly as we move to more multi-well pads, there will be a base level of inventory that you'd expect and as you've seen before and with other operators that have been climbing that efficiency curve and so we'll continue to see an inventory and, what is the exact amount?

  • Well it's very dependent on the rig count.

  • It's dependent on take away capacity.

  • But what our commitment is, is that we aren't going just park capital in the ground for 9 months, 12 months, 15 months or greater without being able to get a return on it.

  • So rather than look at what the optimum level of inventory is, I'd focus that what we're going to do is get the greatest returns from the investments and not strand that capital in the ground.

  • Matthew Portillo - Analyst

  • Great, and then just my last question quickly.

  • On the Mid-Con you guys have lumped all of your rigs together.

  • I was hoping we could get maybe a little bit more clarity in terms of where you may have been decelerating over the last few quarters.

  • And in particular I just wanted to get an update maybe on your Powder River Basin drilling program.

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Sure, Mid-Con is an area that we still are very interested and that we like, we've reduced some of our activity there as we've been working our geologic models.

  • The maturity of the geologic program and the predictability there needs to improve and so pulling back a little bit to make sure that we're operationally doing the things we need to do, the technical and geologic work is focused properly, and I think you'll continue to see the number of rigs in Mid-Con will be in a range there as we increase and decrease based on our confidence in that program to continue to deliver.

  • So we've had several adjustments there.

  • And in the Powder River we are still very encouraged about and you'll also see some fluctuation in the rig activity.

  • The issue there involves infrastructure to a certain extent and back to that comment about not parking capital in the ground for extended periods of time and also the post appraisal and work that needs to be done to improve our cost and make sure that we have a good predictable play there.

  • But in both areas, we like the opportunities that we have and believe that there will be very competitive in our portfolio.

  • Matthew Portillo - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • We'll take our next question from James Sullivan with Alembic Global Advisors.

  • James Sullivan - Analyst

  • Good morning guys.

  • Just a quick question I had, I wanted to see if I could get a little bit of quantification around your plans on switching over from single well one-offs to pad drilling.

  • I apologize if I missed this but at this time you guys are still pretty much at, you're still doing mostly single well one-offs at this point in your main place, right?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • It's improving as we speak, so we're recognizing the multi-well pad efficiencies and cost reductions.

  • I think it's important to note that multi-well pads in and of itself does not provide the capital decrease.

  • It's the synergies and the testing and the optimization that takes place that provides those opportunities.

  • So you obviously benefit from multi-well pads that you don't have the additional pad location road construction, all those kind of things that are high level hits.

  • But that in and of itself, it's the synergies in our operations and the greater purchasing power at Chesapeake that we're looking to capture.

  • James Sullivan - Analyst

  • Sure, sure.

  • So have you guys given a target percent range in the various plays for what you're hoping to be at in 2014?

  • Like let's say if you're running at a generic play 10 rigs do you guys think you might have 5 of them by this time next year running on pads or you looking to get 100% in most of the major plays?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Well we're targeting to get to 100% but as you'd expect though, as you continue to develop a play you'll still have some outside of that or outside of a multi-well pad type grid.

  • And what we've been providing the guidance on is that in the past couple years, we've been in the 75% range on single well pads and going forward in 2014, we expect to flip that to be more 75% on the multi-well pads.

  • So it's a big shift for us and we've targeted some in our presentations, some significant capital reductions that we anticipate can be up to 30%.

  • James Sullivan - Analyst

  • Sure, and just last one on this topic.

  • So I mean as you guys think about doing this I know you guys are guiding to a sequential decrease in output next quarter but I assume you're sort of phasing in this program through your growth areas in the Eagle Ford and elsewhere, Utica.

  • So I assume that the idea is that you don't go through the big kind of dry spell in pops all in one quarter or all in one kind of, one section of time, the idea would be that you'd maybe run through the plays, is that the sort of concept?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Yes, I think that's fair.

  • James Sullivan - Analyst

  • Okay, great, and then just last thing.

  • Do you guys have any updates on the program in the Niobrara?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • No, not really, other than what we've highlighted there, just previously, that we are encouraged by the area.

  • We see a lot of opportunity in it and we'll be matching our capital spend with infrastructure and the best returns that we can get in the portfolio.

  • James Sullivan - Analyst

  • Okay, great.

  • Thank you guys.

  • Operator

  • We'll take our final question from Joe Allman with JP Morgan.

  • Joseph Allman - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Hi everybody.

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Hi, Joe.

  • Joseph Allman - Analyst

  • Doug, going back to Arun's question, you're expecting organic production growth in 2014.

  • So are you expecting absolute production growth in 2014 over 2013 or is it possible that you actually have production down in 2014 versus 2013 and still have organic growth?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Well, Joe, I'm just going to push you to when we give the guidance, okay?

  • Joseph Allman - Analyst

  • Okay, that's helpful, because I know the third quarter 2013 I think production was down 2% over third quarter 2012 but you indicated you had organic growth of 8%, so I think those numbers are right.

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • That's right.

  • Joseph Allman - Analyst

  • Okay, and then in terms of just the midpoint of your new guidance for oil for 2013, the midpoint implies that your fourth quarter oil will drop by about 9,000 barrels a day.

  • So why would we see that drop?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Well as we had noted there, Joe, we had a couple things, there's a few things that enter into it.

  • Partially, the acceleration of activity in Eagle Ford in the third quarter.

  • We're going to be back in a more normal run-rate in the fourth quarter.

  • We benefited from an additional month when we sold some of the assets, we got a little bit of an up lift in the third quarter because of an additional month that we had those before selling them.

  • And then in October, because some of the weather issues that we had with the heavy rains down there in south Texas, that impacted our production a little bit.

  • So that's the reason why we see that difference.

  • Joseph Allman - Analyst

  • Okay, that's helpful.

  • And then in terms of asset sales, so for 2014 you mentioned we might see some asset sales close in the first half of the year.

  • Do you have a target for how much you want to sell, a dollar value or a range and also do you have some debt and metric targets that you're looking at?

  • And on the same topic, in the release you indicated you want to reduce complexity.

  • Could you talk specifically about what complexity do you want to reduce?

  • Nick Dell'Osso - EVP, CFO

  • Sure, Joe and I touched on that a couple questions ago as well.

  • When we talk about complexity we're talking about things that leave us with future cash obligations or operating restrictions in ways that can affect how we run our business and we want to remove as many of those so we have most freedom in how we run our business day-to-day as possible.

  • In terms of a debt target, I've said before that I don't want to have an absolute debt target.

  • A couple years ago we put out a specific number which was related to the Company we looked like at the time and the size of our assets at the time.

  • And so we'll continue to think about this in terms of ratios and in terms of targets around those ratios and what I'll just continue to say there is that we intend to be investment grade Company over time.

  • There's no one ratio that's going to lead us to that.

  • It's a measure across the entire balance sheet and we'll continue to target metrics that drive us towards investment grade performance.

  • Joseph Allman - Analyst

  • So in terms of the dollar value of asset sales you expect, should we expect at least a couple billion dollars of asset sales or --

  • Nick Dell'Osso - EVP, CFO

  • That's just going to be totally driven by our ongoing portfolio analysis and value determinations.

  • We could decide to sell less or more than that and it will be determined by how we view the assets we have in our portfolio contributing to the longer-term goals of production growth and shareholder returns.

  • Joseph Allman - Analyst

  • That's great and just lastly, I just want to clarify your cash flow expectations versus CapEx in 2014.

  • So do you expect your operating cash flow to match or surpass your total CapEx including E&D and leasehold and other CapEx?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Joe, we haven't provided that guidance yet but directionally, what we've been trying to indicate is that we wanted to implement and execute with financial discipline that is in that direction.

  • Joseph Allman - Analyst

  • Okay, so CapEx may still be above but you're trying to at least get closer than you have been in the past?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Well we haven't provided any of that guidance yet so you'll get more on that shortly.

  • Joseph Allman - Analyst

  • Okay and what's the timetable for the new guidance for 2014?

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • What we've said here is that we'll provide that guidance early in the year, so you can look forward to that time.

  • Joseph Allman - Analyst

  • Great, very helpful, thank you.

  • Doug Lawler - President, CEO

  • Okay.

  • With that being the last call, I just want to thank everyone for their time.

  • I do believe we had a very strong quarter.

  • I think it's a foundational quarter to Chesapeake, and I just want to reiterate that the number of initiatives that are in place in this Company are significant and I believe we have a significant opportunity to continue to provide differential performance to the investment community and I'm excited about the opportunities and the talent that resides in the organization to execute that program.

  • So 2014 is going to be an exciting year for us and we'll look forward to sharing more with you about that here in the near future.

  • Operator

  • This does conclude today's conference.

  • Thank you for your participation.