康尼格拉食品 (CAG) 2008 Q1 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Good morning and welcome to today's ConAgra Foods first quarter earnings conference call.

  • This program is being recorded.

  • My name is John Daniels, and I will be your facilitator this morning.

  • All audio lines are currently in a listen-only mode, however, our speakers will address your questions at the end of the presentation during the formal question-and-answer session.

  • At this time, I would like to introduce your host for today's program, Gary Rodkin, Chief Executive Officer of ConAgra Foods.

  • Please go ahead, Mr.

  • Rodkin.

  • - CEO

  • Good morning.

  • This is Gary Rodkin and I'm here with Andr Hawaux, our CFO, and Chris Klinefelter, our VP of Investor Relations.

  • I'm going to start with a few words about the EPS we just posted and how we view our segments' operating performance.

  • I'll also briefly discuss our outlook for fiscal '08.

  • After that, Andr will discuss a few financial matters and then we'll take your questions.

  • And Dean Hollis, President of Consumer Operations, and Greg Heckman, President of Commercial Operations, will join us for that portion of the call.

  • Before we get started, Chris will say a few words about housekeeping matters.

  • - VP of IR

  • Good morning.

  • During today's remarks, we will make some forward-looking statements and while we're making those statements in good faith and are confident about our Company's direction, we do not have any guarantee about the results that we will achieve.

  • So if you would like to learn more about the risks and factors that could influence and affect our business, I'll refer you to the documents we filed with the SEC, which include cautionary language.

  • Also, we'll be discussing some non-GAAP financial measures during the call today and the reconciliations of those measures for Regulation G compliance can be found on our website at http://investor.conagrafoods.com, under the Financial Reports and Filing link, and then choosing Non-GAAP Reconciliations.

  • Now I'll turn it back over to Gary.

  • - CEO

  • Thanks, Chris.

  • We just released EPS of $0.36 for the quarter or $0.34 on a comparable basis.

  • It's a strong start for the year's EPS.

  • There were several bright spots that put us ahead of what we originally expected.

  • As you can tell from the topline trends in Consumer Foods, our new products are off to a great start.

  • We're very pleased with that.

  • But on the flip side, I'm not happy with the margin performance in Consumer Foods.

  • More about that and our plans to address it in a minute.

  • We're also very pleased with the continued top and bottom line momentum in our Food and Ingredients business.

  • And in a repeat of recent quarters, our Trading and Merchandising segment had another very strong quarter.

  • Results there were certainly stronger than what we planned for -- or what we view as a normalized run rate.

  • Now I'll say a little bit more about each of these.

  • Consumer Foods showed some very good sales trends.

  • Sales were up 6% on a comparable basis, which is excellent, and a really big improvement from what we've seen in recent years.

  • Priority investment brands, which represent more than 70% of the segment, were up 7% on a comparable basis.

  • That's the best organic topline brand performance anyone around here has seen in a long time.

  • For those of you who have been following our news and events related to our new product pipeline, you know we introduced several new exciting products during the last three months, items like Healthy Choice Cafe Steamers and Paninis, Chef Boyardee Mac & Cheese,Hunt's Fired Roasted Tomatoes, Orville Redenbacher's Natural Popcorn, PAM professional -- just to name a few.

  • The new product pipeline is off to a strong start and certainly made a big difference for the quarter.

  • Just to be clear, some of the items in this first wave are still being rolled out, meaning that they weren't on the shelves by quarter end, but they soon will be.

  • It's also worth mentioning that we continue to feel very good about our new product pipeline.

  • We'll be updating you later on in fiscal '08 about the next wave.

  • The topline growth in Consumer Foods wasn't all due to new items.

  • The marketing and sales initiatives that we've discussed with you before, like spending more behind the right brands, focusing on our gold store initiative, targeting new channels, and phasing out unprofitable volume to make a healthier base are paying off.

  • A number of brands that didn't have new products released during the quarter, like EggBeaters, Hebrew National, Reddi-wip or Marie Callender's, still posted meaningful sales growth, demonstrating that we have some great equities with potential when they're managed with the right focus and investment.

  • The last point I'll make about the topline is that although we did take price increases on a number of lines and products during the quarter, we should have moved more quickly across our portfolio and been more aggressive on managing our trade spend.

  • Across the total Consumer Foods portfolio, price increases didn't play a big role in overall sales performance, but price increases among our priority investment brands accounted for about 2% growth for that group as a whole.

  • We have planned to take more pricing across other parts of our portfolio to help combat input inflation and we plan for the second half to show more pricing growth due to actions currently being implemented.

  • I'll come back to this in a few minutes.

  • Moving on to Consumer Foods' operating profits; comparable profits were down, even with the strong sales growth.

  • When I say comparable profits, I'm dealing with numbers that exclude the restructuring and recall items discussed in the release.

  • To me, this decline is unacceptable and we're in the process of addressing it.

  • The main issues are that inflation was more severe than we planned and our pricing actions, cost savings, and efficiencies simply weren't strong enough.

  • Importantly, as we move to some production across facilities, we suffered start-up inefficiencies from the related disruption.

  • We tried to do too much too fast in our product supply infrastructure.

  • At the same time, we were dealing with the distraction and diversion of resources caused by the revamping of our peanut butter business.

  • We simply didn't execute everything we put on our plates.

  • As we aggressively pursue changes in our supply chain, we know there will be occasional choppiness and disruption in margins.

  • And while we're disappointed with that aspect of the quarter's activities, we have a clear line of sight on the issues and are very focused on improving them.

  • And while our execution has not been perfect, our productivity efforts are generating meaningful dollars to help fight inflation.

  • I'm confident that our productivity remains -- our productivity runway remains long, but there's no getting around that the fact that 7% inflation is a very tough thing to overcome, which is why the pricing actions and trade discipline I mentioned earlier are so important.

  • In the quarter, Consumer Foods G&A costs declined slightly, showing our commitment to reduce overhead, while at the same time we increased advertising and promotion investment.

  • Advertising and promotion increased by about $5 million, so it wasn't a major factor in the operating profit change.

  • More noteworthy is that we had a $15 million profit headwind because of peanut butter.

  • As you know, we had a full recall last year and we reintroduced Peter Pan during the quarter.

  • We're very pleased with the reception it's getting.

  • Since we had lower peanut butter volumes along with reintroduction and start-up costs, we had lower peanut butter sales and profits.

  • We weren't surprised by this and we expect these headwinds until the brand builds a healthy momentum it can achieve.

  • So given this quarter's profit decline at Consumer Foods, what does that mean for the future?

  • I want to be very clear that we're confident that a combination of volume growth, pricing actions, and improving cost savings and efficiencies will show a good operating profit performance for Consumer Foods for the full fiscal year.

  • We expect things to get stronger in the back half of the year.

  • The key is that the expected price increases and operating leverage get their real traction in the back half of the fiscal year.

  • Moving on to the Food and Ingredient segment, the main story is really our Lamb Weston potato operations.

  • They continue to grow through a combination of pricing and volume and a focus on efficiencies.

  • Lamb Weston has a laser-like focus on customer service and efficiencies, and that's continued to pay off in the form of good margins and increased business with the right foodservice customers.

  • Lamb Weston's momentum is truly remarkable.

  • They were the force behind the segment's 15% profit growth this quarter.

  • I would like to thank the team for their focus and consistency and their overall continued excellent performance.

  • Also relevant to the Food and Ingredients topline were the strong sales increase for our flour milling business.

  • Our flour prices were higher, primarily because of wheat costs that were higher, and we passed the cost along to our customers.

  • The milling profits were up slightly for the quarter and were not a major driver of the segment's profit growth.

  • Our Trading and Merchandising segment posted a very, very good quarter.

  • Profits there were more than four-times last quarter's first quarter amounts.

  • This was another unusual quarter, when the right dynamics and volatility for energy trading and fertilizer demand gave us significant opportunities and paid off very well.

  • We also had an easy comparison, given last year's modest first quarter results.

  • I again congratulate our team on a job well done.

  • And I also need to say to our investors, that our expectations remain for this segment to have a much more modest rate of contribution for the balance of the fiscal year, particularly given the difficult comparisons we face in the second half of the fiscal year, as well as the seasonality of the fertilizer business, which is usually concentrated in and around the planting season.

  • Our International Foods segment also showed sales traction, posting a 5% increase.

  • The growth was broad-based and popcorn, in particular, did well.

  • We increased our marketing investment for this segment last fiscal year, and we also walked away from some products and promotions that weren't giving us a healthy base.

  • So we're now seeing the benefits of the increased investment last year.

  • And we expect to gradually make that business more significant going forward.

  • A few other things I want to mention before I turn it over to Andr.

  • The first is that we bought Alexia Foods during the quarter and we also bought Lincoln Snacks shortly after the quarter had ended.

  • Neither of these deals was very large, but they are strategic.

  • Alexia Foods is an all-natural food company specializing in frozen potato, artisan breads, and appetizer products.

  • And it's the sweet spot with important consumer trends and important growing channels.

  • We also bought Lincoln Snacks, a flavored popcorn business with brands including Fiddle-Faddle and Poppycock.

  • Both of these companies can benefit greatly from our marketing and operating resources, which should help them grow over time.

  • Again, I would like to welcome them to the ConAgra Foods team.

  • Another item I would like to mention is that King Pouw, our Executive Vice President of Operations and Business Transformation, has recently expanded his duties to assume leadership of our Product Supply operations.

  • As a reminder, Product Supply is our procurement, manufacturing, and supply chain organization.

  • King has been with us for about year and a half, and before that, he was at Kellogg for many years, where some of our investors may have met him.

  • King is a very capable leader with deep experience in manufacturing, logistics, engineering, procurement, R&D, and information technology, and I believe that he will take our game to the next level.

  • The last point I'll make is about guidance.

  • As we said in the release, our comments a quarter ago were that we were comfortable with diluted EPS, excluding items impacting comparability, in the range of $1.48 for fiscal 2008.

  • And that's still the case.

  • While some might wonder why we didn't take that number up given our strong first quarter, keep in mind there's a lot going on, particularly inflation, peanut butter headwinds we face as we gradually get back our volume, and the inevitable slowdown in trading profits.

  • So to reemphasize, we're staying with our previous comments of earnings in the range of $1.48 and will update you throughout the year if we see that differently.

  • With that I'll conclude.

  • Thanks for your interest in the Company.

  • And now I'll turn it over to Andr Hawaux.

  • - CFO

  • Thanks very much, Gary.

  • Good morning, everyone.

  • I'll touch on a few financial matters before we turn it over to Q&A.

  • To echo what Gary said, I am very pleased with our overall EPS of $0.34, excluding items impacting comparability.

  • There were a lot of bright spots in the quarter, for example, a very strong priority investment brand performance, remarkable momentum in Lamb Weston, and a very sizable contribution from Trading and Merchandising.

  • Our team accomplished a great deal and I congratulate them.

  • Consumer Foods' operating profit was not one of the quarter's bright spots, given its year-over-year decline.

  • Building on Gary's earlier point, we have the plans in place to pull the levers that will allow us to see our topline progress flow through the to the bottom line.

  • And those points are; better net price realization, improving operating efficiencies, and continuing to focus on sticky innovation.

  • And I do want to emphasize one thing.

  • In past communications, we had indicated that we expected cost savings to roughly offset inflation for Consumer Foods in fiscal 2008.

  • While it's too early to know for certain, if inflation stays at 7%, we won't be able to offset that with cost savings and efficiencies alone.

  • It's too steep a hill to climb, which is why volume and pricing are so important.

  • As Gary mentioned, Consumer Foods' gross margin percentages should improve in the back half of the year and we expect the full-year gross margin percentage to be directionally in-line with that of last year.

  • Consumer Foods' gross margin dollars, on the other hand, should show year-over-year growth by the time we finish the fiscal year.

  • That's due to a combination of pricing, volume growth, improving cost savings and efficiencies.

  • And it's the main reason we expect the segment to post good operating profit results for the full fiscal year.

  • And to echo what Gary said earlier, our previous guidance of diluted EPS in the range of $1.48 for fiscal 2008, excluding items impacting comparability, is still our current view, for all the reasons Gary and I have talked about.

  • Now a few other details.

  • Our interest expense was $59 million for the quarter, very close to last year's amounts.

  • Our dividends were $89 million for the quarter, slightly below last year's amounts.

  • Our tax rate projection for the year is between 34% and 35%.

  • It was a little lighter this quarter and we cite the benefit of a lower rate as an item impacting comparability.

  • As you can see from the balance sheet, this quarter showed a large increase in working capital year-over-year.

  • Some of that is due to our sales increase.

  • It's also because of the value of some of the inventories is higher due to input cost inflation for items like wheat, tomatoes, and potatoes.

  • And it's also because our Trading and Merchandising operations use working capital to capitalize on marketplace opportunities.

  • Our Trade Group utilizes the working capital when they believe the profit potential is worth the investment, which means a positive ROIC impact in due course.

  • As you've heard me say before, working capital at our Company can be lumpy, given the seasonality of some inputs that we use in our inventories, and given the business dynamics of our Trading and Merchandising segment.

  • Capital expenditures were $152 million for the quarter, much higher than a year ago, driven by the upgrades to our manufacturing and logistics operations that are part of the initiatives we have been discussing with you for a while now.

  • We plan for CapEx to be in roughly $425 million to $450 million per year during the fiscal years 2008 through 2010 timeframe, with this year being around $450 million.

  • On another note, we finished our share repurchase authorization during the quarter, buying another $88 million of shares.

  • The weighted average number of shares outstanding at quarter end was 493 million.

  • As we've said before, we view share repurchases as the benchmark for how we deploy our capital.

  • Our Board reviews our authorization periodically and we will let you know of any change in authorization.

  • We also bought two small businesses since we last talked to you.

  • Gary mentioned them; Alexia Foods and Lincoln Snacks.

  • These are perfect examples of tuck-in acquisitions.

  • They make good strategic fits and we plan to utilize existing infrastructure to make those businesses more profitable.

  • The combined purchase price for both of these businesses was in the range of $100 million.

  • Keep in mind, one of these transactions was completed during the quarter and the other after the quarter had ended.

  • With that I'll conclude my remarks.

  • I thank you for your interest in ConAgra Foods.

  • And now I'll turn it over to the operator for Q&A.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Now we'll get to an important part of today's call, taking your questions.

  • (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS)

  • It looks like our first question comes from Dave Driscoll with Citi Investment Research.

  • - CEO

  • Hello?

  • - VP of IR

  • Hello.

  • Operator

  • Yes.

  • Mr.

  • Driscoll, your line is open.

  • - VP of IR

  • We're not getting a signal.

  • Maybe we can go to the next question.

  • Operator

  • We'll take a question from Christine McCracken with Cleveland Research.

  • - Analyst

  • Just wanted to touch base on Food and Ingredients.

  • Because you talked about commodity cost inflation in Consumer Foods, but if I'm not mistaken, you probably saw pretty significant headwinds in Food and Ingredients too.

  • And yet, it seems like you were able to see a lot better margins there.

  • I'm just wondering, is there a difference in how you pass-through price increases in your consumer products?

  • It seems like in that area, you would be able to pass through pricing maybe even a little bit easier than in foodservice, for example.

  • - CEO

  • Yes, Christine.

  • I would tell you that we do manage it quite a bit differently.

  • The businesses are more commodity-oriented.

  • But I also would tell you that we're very much on top of our business -- businesses like Lamb Weston, Gilroy, Spicetec, the flour milling business.

  • Everyday it's a kind of ground it out and make sure that we are passing the appropriate costs along.

  • For a little bit more color, let me pass that over to Greg.

  • - President of Commercial Operations

  • Morning, Christine.

  • - Analyst

  • Morning.

  • - President of Commercial Operations

  • I wouldn't say it's any easier to pass price increases in our part of the business at all.

  • But what I would say is -- that is more the nature of that entire industry to have volatility on the major commodity inputs.

  • And that market be probably much more nimble to those changes in the short run.

  • So whether it's ourselves, the other suppliers, or the customers, it's more the nature of the B to B space.

  • - CEO

  • I would tell you that we are extremely pleased with the way they've been able to manage this very difficult inflationary environment.

  • They've done an excellent job.

  • That's why the margins are as good as you see.

  • - Analyst

  • And if I'm not mistaken, a few years ago you had some issues with garlic, and with the news this week on China restricting their exports of garlic to the U.S., are you an importer, at this point, of Chinese garlic?

  • And is that going to be a big issue for you?

  • - President of Commercial Operations

  • I would say, as the leading domestic garlic producer, we're keenly watching that market, as we have.

  • We are an importer of some quality garlic.

  • But long-term, which is how this will play out, we will see that high-quality standards absolutely are the best thing for us, as a quality provider and the best thing for our customers, as they want to protect their brands.

  • So anything that plays to quality is long-term a positive for us.

  • - CEO

  • I would say that's probably an advantage for us.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • We now do move to David Driscoll, Citi Investment Research.

  • - Analyst

  • Hey, everybody.

  • Can you hear me?

  • - CEO

  • Morning.

  • - VP of IR

  • I think we lost David in the queue.

  • We'll move on to someone else.

  • Operator

  • Moving now to Eric Serotta, Merrill Lynch.

  • - Analyst

  • Good morning, guys.

  • - CEO

  • Good morning, Eric.

  • - Analyst

  • A couple questions.

  • First, in terms of the very impressive topline growth that you had in Consumer Foods in the quarter -- I know you said that not all of it was attributable to new products.

  • But within the part that was attributable to new products, how much was attributable to pipeline fill or sort of shipment in advance of demand?

  • - CEO

  • Eric, I would tell you that -- that we really have not built a big pipeline.

  • We've seen the turns, the velocity be very, very good.

  • So it's really moving through.

  • We don't have any issue.

  • Our reorders have been excellent.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Then in terms of your second half guidance.

  • Just doing -- or your full-year guidance -- just doing a little bit of arithmetic.

  • If I take the $0.33 or $0.34, depending on how calculated the EPS estimate -- EPS that you reported for the first quarter, and your $0.40 or roughly flat guidance for the second quarter, and your full-year guidance of about $1.48, it implies that your second half EPS is about flat year-over-year.

  • Now I realize you have to a tough comp in the fourth quarter, in particular, given the order-delivery on the trading, but that doesn't really seem to be that consistent with the comment in the press release that you're expecting to show solid EPS progress in the second half.

  • Could you explain what I'm missing there?

  • - VP of IR

  • Yes, hello, Eric, this is Chris.

  • I'm going to start and turn it over to Andr.

  • When you look in the second half of our year -- remember, when we gave our guidance about fiscal '08, we went through the exercises to get you to the proper base in fiscal '07 on to which to base those fiscal '08 projections.

  • In that, we adjusted for both peanut butter recall costs and the over-delivery of the trading business.

  • If you do those exercises in the second half of last year, we printed EPS of $0.75 last year before you adjust for either of those items.

  • If you take the $0.75 and adjust for $0.08 of peanut butter recall costs, you're now at $0.83.

  • And then you back off $0.15 for trading over-delivery.

  • Now you're at at a $0.68 comparison.

  • So when we're talking about solid EPS progress, we mean on that adjusted base.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks.

  • That would be helpful to put in the press release next time, off the adjusted base, just because it's a little bit confusing.

  • Reads almost as if you're talking about off the reported numbers or the numbers ex items as were put in there.

  • Just as a final question.

  • I know in the outlook section you reaffirmed your longer-term financial goal.

  • Gary, if you're talking about Consumer Foods operating margin percentage being about flattish this year, which I believe I heard Andr say, that implies that you guys are looking for over 250 basis points of margin expansion in fiscal 2009 and '10.

  • Is -- do you still think that's achievable?

  • And could you go into that a bit?

  • - CFO

  • Eric, this is Andr.

  • I think -- we believe, in terms of the guidelines that we've talked about, that we see ourselves continuing to push forth our operating profit margin in our Consumer business to get closer and closer to our peers as we move out.

  • That's pretty -- that's very much consistent with what we plan on doing.

  • - CEO

  • And Eric, I'd just say we remain very confident in our goal on operating margin improvement.

  • And the mix of variables might change a bit, but we're still going to drive the same algorithm.

  • Operator

  • We now go to David Driscoll, Citi Investment Research.

  • - Analyst

  • Let's try it now.

  • - CEO

  • Hey, David.

  • - Analyst

  • There we go.

  • Gary, can you get back into the pricing discussion?

  • You indicated, I think on your prepared comments, that trade reduction -- promotion reduction would be a key ingredient here to -- maybe I'm reading in a little bit to what you said -- but I think you were trying to say that reducing trade promotion would be the way that you would affect a price increase.

  • Is that accurate?

  • Or should we be looking at list price increases announcements coming up?

  • - CEO

  • It's really both, David.

  • We will be taking list prices up in a number of categories more and we will be taking trade spending down, much more from an effectiveness standpoint.

  • We're in the process of implementing new systems that really will get more traction as we get toward the back half.

  • But we still are very confident that from a net pricing standpoint, you will see significant improvement.

  • I guess the way that I see it, David, is that I don't think we were as aggressive as we should have been.

  • But we did realize 2% net pricing on our priority brands and we do have more brands taking planned increases in Q2 and Q3 in important categories, some that we've already announced, like frozen and tomato products.

  • And then given the level of inflation and the start-up inefficiencies that we're experiencing here in the first half, we're going to go broader and deeper across our portfolio and categories where inflation is hitting us the hardest.

  • And we'll see significantly better net price realization in the back half.

  • Then finally, one last point on that, we made some investments with our customers on trade programs that will pay us dividends in the back half of the fiscal year, as we've managed to our annual numbers versus quarterly numbers.

  • - Analyst

  • So then if we just -- maybe if you could quantify that for me; would a 3% on average price increase across the Consumer Foods portfolio in the back half of the year, is that a ballpark of a type of a realization that you're looking for?

  • - CEO

  • Yes, I probably don't want to get that specific, David.

  • But I would tell you that we are taking significant pricing in a number of our categories and some of the categories we've already taken are north of that.

  • - Analyst

  • Then moving on, but related here; on the commodity cost side, what's your new forecast for the year?

  • I don't actually think you said it on the prepared comments.

  • - CEO

  • I think we talked about a 7% inflation.

  • Just to point out, that's probably a little bit higher than what you've heard from a few of our competitors, and that's the make-up of our portfolio.

  • Probably the biggest piece of that is in oils.

  • We've got big business in Wesson oil and in our margarine spreads.

  • And that inflation input cost is through the roof.

  • Operator

  • From Lehman Brothers, we're joined by Andrew Lazar.

  • - Analyst

  • Good morning.

  • - CEO

  • Good morning, Andrew.

  • - Analyst

  • Just a couple quick things.

  • One, Andr, is there a range -- or how should we think about kind of operating cash flow that you're targeting for this year, given some of the working capital changes that you talked about?

  • I'm trying to get a sense of if the free cash flow -- how do I think about free cash flow, given the CapEx of roughly $4.50?

  • - CFO

  • I think what we've said, Andrew,is -- I think we'retalking about our free cash flow moving roughly in-line with -- slightly lower than what we're expecting from an EPS growth perspective.

  • - Analyst

  • Got you.

  • Okay, that's helpful.

  • In terms of just --Trading and Merchandising and the volatility, I know historically you've talked about that business, to some extent, being kind of a natural hedge when we get into difficult environments, from an input cost standpoint or on the Consumer Products piece.

  • Is that still the case?

  • And it's just that input costs are just kind of off the charts in certain respects, so it's not quite making up for that?

  • I'm just trying to get a sense if that's changed at all.

  • - CEO

  • I think the way we mean it is, when we've got a lot of volatility like this, we tend to do quite well in our Trading and Merchandising business, which you've seen in the last few quarters and particularly you've seen it this quarter.

  • That is what we really mean when we say kind of a natural hedge.

  • We expect a high likelihood of significant over-delivery and real volatile times, which could help offset some of the input cost inflation on our consumer brands.

  • Operator

  • From Deutsche Bank, Eric Katzman.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi, good morning, everybody.

  • - CEO

  • Good morning.

  • - Analyst

  • Just one clarification and then a follow-up.

  • The $1.48, excluding items -- what are the items?

  • In particular, are you excluding the $12 million recall -- peanut butter recall costs that you identified this quarter in that $1.48?

  • - VP of IR

  • Yes, we are -- this is Chris, Eric.

  • We are excluding peanut butter recall costs and restructuring and things like that.

  • So the items that you see listed in the earnings release, those are the items we are calling out.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Should we expect more of those, either restructuring or other ones that you can at least identify at this point, going forward?

  • - CEO

  • Andr, you had a [birdy] on this?

  • - CFO

  • No, I don't see -- Eric, we don't see a whole lot more restructuring going forward.

  • I would say on peanut butter recall -- I would say we probably have a little bit of a tail on that as we start to settle some of these claims.

  • But I would hope that that would be diminimus going forward.

  • We've gotten the bulk of that behind us and we've booked all the things that we can appropriately book from a GAAP perspective.

  • So I think -- we don't see a whole lot more coming down the pike on that at all.

  • And we don't have any restructuring -- major restructuring dollars planned in the back half of the year.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Robert Moskow of Credit Suisse.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi, good morning.

  • - CEO

  • Good morning.

  • - Analyst

  • Just a question about the trade spending during this quarter.

  • Your predecessor, Gary, had talked in the past about some of his frustration of being able to implement lower trade spending or, I guess, net pricing.

  • It kind of gave you the sense that if there's a corporate directive, that sometimes it doesn't get executed out in the field.

  • And I'm just wondering, how are the systems that you're putting into place -- maybe you can give us a little bit more color on how that's going to improve your ability to influence what gets executed?

  • I imagine it's a visibility issue, but are you then giving that information to people in the field so that they can make better decisions?

  • Or giving the information directly to your customers so they can make better decisions?

  • Can you give us a little bit more color on it?

  • - CEO

  • I would say first of all, it's really important to remember that the systems that we historically have been working with basically are not systems.

  • So we are coming from a real deep hole from that perspective.

  • We are putting trade management programs in place as we speak, as we implement our nucleus project, our SAP.

  • And the mandate is very clear, it's ROI and really getting more out of what we spend.

  • Those systems have not yet been implemented.

  • We've got a lot of discussion going on, in terms of how we're going to implement those, but I think you're going to see -- in the back half that you will start to see some of the impact of that increased efficiency and effectiveness on trade spending.

  • Brands are really getting stronger through innovation, trade -- I'm sorry, innovation and A&P spending.

  • And that's really what we're hoping to redeploy, savings from a trade standpoint into marketing.

  • The real mandate is to build the base versus chase the case.

  • That's what we're looking forward to, as we get toward the second half of the year.

  • - Analyst

  • Gary, can you tell me -- you mentioned ROI is the key measurement, how long will it take you to get -- maybe historical data, so that you can get better measurement as to what your ROI growth is?

  • Or is that one of the obstacles here, that you need some historical data, so that you can show what works and what doesn't, from a trade management perspective?

  • - CEO

  • I think that's part of what we're doing right now, we're kind of loading -- populating the database so that we can -- can we go forward.

  • That's really the first real step in this.

  • And that's happening as we speak.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • We move now to Edgar Roesch, Banc of America Securities.

  • - Analyst

  • Good morning.

  • So congrats on -- sounds like an encouraging start to some of the new products.

  • Just wanted to ask you, Gary, I understand new products and innovation is important for the health of the pricing component to your top line; but in the short-term, when you're rolling out a lot of new items like you did last quarter, is it helping or hurting your price on that short-term basis?

  • - CEO

  • I would tell you that it's helping.

  • Clearly, you have to have some introductory costs, slotting, et cetera.

  • But from a mix standpoint, it clearly is a positive.

  • And a great example of that would be in Healthy Choice, where you're going to see some significant price realization across the year, in fact, we're starting to see that already, along with market share increases.

  • PAM's another great example, where we introduced a premium product, very high margin, that will help the mix there as well.

  • - Analyst

  • But having said that, there are also some concessions to -- on the initial shipments that will naturally lead to better pricing, it sounds like, in the coming quarters.

  • Is that fair?

  • - CEO

  • I'm not sure I understand that question on new products.

  • - Analyst

  • Well you said with respect to slotting and things like that --

  • - CEO

  • Oh, slotting, yes.

  • - Analyst

  • -- so even if it's a net positive in the past quarter, you still had some concessions that had to be made.

  • Right?

  • - CEO

  • Yes, and that's always the case.

  • And the margins will get better as the product gets more seated.

  • Yes.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay, so some pricing is just kind of built in -- ?

  • All right, great.

  • Thank you very

  • - CEO

  • You bet.

  • Operator

  • With a follow-up question, we go to Eric Katzman, Deutsche Bank.

  • - Analyst

  • A bigger picture question in that -- when you -- in terms of the consumer area, the idea, I think, was you inherited some brands which hadn't received any support -- or minimal support.

  • You had enough cost savings to basically fund a much more aggressive A&P budget, probably without really needing or expecting to take price.

  • So I'm kind of wondering what are the risks, now that inflation is eating into the cost savings, that because you have to rely on pricing, it becomes a little bit tougher with -- Irene at Kraft isn't going to just simply allow Mac & Cheese to be hit or Nestle with Stouffer's, et cetera, without a bit of a fight.

  • Which would seem to me to translate into either more promotional spending to -- which would partially offset the pricing.

  • So how should we think about that versus the initial plans?

  • - CEO

  • I think it's pretty clear across all of our peers, the whole industry, that this inflation is for real and most likely will continue for a while.

  • And therefore, expect to see a little bit more rational behavior than we might have in the past, as it pertains to pricing.

  • Again, even in Q1, our priority brands have 2% net price realization on a comparable basis.

  • We expect to see that continue to go as we take smart, surgical advances where the inflation really requires it.

  • And as we start to implement our trade management program systems, we'll be much more effective with the trade spend, so we'll get a much better ROI than we have historically.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • - CEO

  • All that is to come in the back half.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Thank you for that.

  • - CEO

  • You're welcome.

  • Operator

  • And from Banc of America, we are joined by Todd Duvick.

  • - Analyst

  • Yes, good morning.

  • - CEO

  • Good morning, Todd.

  • - Analyst

  • Had a quick question from a fixed income standpoint.

  • If you -- and first of all, I appreciate the guidance on operating cash flow this year.

  • And I guess thinking beyond this year, are there opportunities in working capital management to really improve that and maybe accelerate the operating cash flow, such that it may grow faster than EPS in the future?

  • - CFO

  • Yes Todd -- it's Andr.

  • Let me take that.

  • The answer is, we can always get better at working capital, absolutely.

  • We are putting in place programs where we can convert -- improve our cash conversion cycle.

  • As I said on the call, we have a commodity element in our business, like in our mills business, that actually is prone to commodity spikes in terms of costs.

  • And that plus the fact that our trading and merchandising segment uses our working capital very effectively with very high ROICs when they see opportunities, that's one of the things that we're always very cautious on.

  • We can improve working capital, but we've got to be mindful of the way we run our business.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • So I guess going forward, what do you say that the primary driver to operating cash flow growth is still going to be just net income growth primarily?

  • - CFO

  • I would say that that plus the spread between depreciation and CapEx -- and we're going to continue to try to squeeze a little bit out of working capital year-on-year.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • That's helpful.

  • Also, I think you indicated that you have used up your share repurchase program.

  • Can we expect a new authorization in the near future?

  • - CFO

  • We -- so, the first part of your question, yes, we have finished the program that the board approved.

  • We will -- and we discuss with our Board all the elements of our cap structure.

  • When we do have something new, we will actually talk to you about it.

  • Operator

  • We now rejoined by David Driscoll, Citi Investment Research.

  • - Analyst

  • A follow-up on the commodity costs.

  • Can you tell us what's changed from your commodity cost forecast?

  • It's 7% now.

  • I believe on the last call, Andr, you had indicated approximately 4%.

  • And can you tell us what percent of your commodity costs are hedged for the balance of the year?

  • And a follow-up, if I may.

  • - CFO

  • David, I don't believe -- I'm going to have to look at the past script -- but I don't believe I was ever down around 4%.

  • I believe last time we talked -- around 5% to 6%, if I'm not mistaken.

  • So what's changed is I think one of the things that Gary articulated, the place where we have the highest amount of inflation right now in our portfolio is in fats and oils.

  • And that's -- it's a big piece of our portfolio and the inflation is very significant.

  • So that's the first part of your question.

  • What was the second part, David, I apologize?

  • - Analyst

  • Percent hedged for the balance of the year on commodities?

  • - CFO

  • We typically -- we would prefer not to discuss those publicly.

  • - Analyst

  • And then just a follow-up here would be; what was the shipments of peanut butter in the quarter?

  • I think you had a press release out saying that you started shipping in August.

  • But I'm a little bit confused on some of the comments on whether this, on balance, was a negative in the quarter or whether it was neutral in the quarter?

  • - CEO

  • Yes, we shipped only about $8 million, $9 million because it was just a couple of weeks worth at the end of the quarter.

  • So clearly, peanut butter was a significant shortfall for us, from a total profitability standpoint, versus a year ago.

  • - VP of IR

  • Yes.

  • This is Chris -- to build on Gary's point.

  • With $9 million of sales this quarter -- if you see the tables in the release on page 10, we've excluded those sales in the comparable sales results.

  • So we're moving both this year and last year.

  • They're not warping the 6% sales growth at consumer.

  • Operator

  • Our next question, Pablo Zuanic, JPMorgan.

  • - Analyst

  • Good morning, everyone.

  • - CEO

  • Good morning, Pablo.

  • - Analyst

  • I have two questions.

  • Hopefully, the operator doesn't cut me off.

  • The first question is more just on specific numbers.

  • Your $1.48 guidance for the year assumes a run rate of $400 million in corporate expense and $200 million in Trading and Merchandising EBIT; is that correct?

  • - VP of IR

  • I'll start, Pablo -- this is Chris -- and I'll turn it over to Andr.

  • In terms of corporate, you're probably looking at something around the mid $3s -- say $350, $360.

  • We budget around $90 million a quarter, it doesn't always come out that way, but that's how we think about it.

  • In terms of Trading and Merchandising, as we've talked before, it's very difficult to call something normal there.

  • The historical range has been between $100 and $200.

  • You can call $200 within, it would be just toward the high end.

  • Andr, would you like to -- ?

  • - CFO

  • I think you've answered it, Chris.

  • I think that's spot on.

  • Operator

  • For our next question, Andrew Lazar, Lehman Brothers.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Just any opportunities to acceIerate some of the productivity opportunities you have?I know you've talked about Phase 2, I don't remember getting details yet?

  • Or when would we perhaps see kind of what's coming down the pike from the Phase 2?

  • - VP of IR

  • I think we have not publicly talked about Phase 2 -- so we're still on Phase 1.

  • I think one of the things you sort of have to remember, Andrew, is one of the things Gary articulated in his speech, we did too much too fast, I think, on the productivity.

  • So to answer your question, would we want to accelerate some things -- I think one of the thing we learned this quarter was we had a lot on our people's plates in a lot on our plants.

  • And I think we probably feel that we now know what we need to do there, and accelerating it probably -- may not be the answer.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you.

  • Operator

  • We'll go to Christine McCracken with Cleveland Research.

  • - Analyst

  • Just a follow-up on the same line of questioning as Andrew.

  • On -- you mentioned some of these start-up inefficiencies and transferring production.

  • It sounds like you did have a lot going on.

  • Did that translate into kind of out of stock issues at the retail level?

  • Or is it really just costs that were added that you'll cycle out of as the year progresses?

  • - CEO

  • Very astute, Christine.

  • Yes, we did have some blips in our service levels in some of these transformation projects, which should be correcting as the year goes on.

  • So you're right, it has a lot of reverberations when you load your plate up too much.

  • I think it's just real important to remember -- and this is a big mia culpa for me -- we had so much -- the major diversion of resources from getting peanut butter back on track coupled with too many projects for our product supply folks and engineering to handle stretched the resources just too thin.

  • And that's a tough lesson learned.

  • But we're course correcting as we speak.

  • - Analyst

  • You mentioned some of it, though -- I think maybe a shortfall in systems.

  • And I'm wondering, is that something that's going to take a while to fix?

  • Or is it that it was just stretching that you have too far?

  • - CEO

  • Christine, I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand that.

  • What was the question about system?

  • Can we get Christine back?

  • Operator

  • Christine, if you would press star one a second time on your touch-tone telephone.

  • To rejoin the queue, Christine, star one.

  • - Analyst

  • You with me?

  • - CEO

  • Yes.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • You had mentioned, I think, during your -- in an answer to one of the earlier questions, that systems kind of let you down.

  • I'm just wondering is it that the systems are an impediment, is that going to take a while to fix?

  • - CEO

  • I don't remember that particular comment.

  • It may be related to our trade management program.

  • I think that's probably what -- the system that I mentioned -- that we don't have the systems in place yet for our trade management.

  • And that is really coming, starting in the second half.

  • That is, I think, the only system that we talked about.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Good stuff.

  • Thanks.

  • - CEO

  • You're welcome.

  • Operator

  • This concludes our question-and-answer session.

  • Mr.

  • Klinefelter, I'll hand the conference back to you for final remarks and closing comments.

  • - VP of IR

  • Just as a reminder, this conference is being recorded and will be archived on the web, as detailed in our news release.

  • As always, we're available for discussions.

  • Thank you very much for your interest in ConAgra Foods.

  • Operator

  • This concludes today's ConAgra Foods first quarter earnings conference call.

  • Thank you again, for attending, and have a good day.