Blink Charging Co (BLNK) 2022 Q3 法說會逐字稿

Good afternoon and welcome to Blink Charging's Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. (Operator Instructions) Please note this conference is being recorded. A replay of this call will be available on the Investor Relations page of the company's website.

At this time, I'd like to turn the presentation over to Vitalie Stelea, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Kelly, and welcome everyone to Blink's Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Call. On this call today, we have Michael D. Farkas, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Brendan Jones, President; and Michael Rama, Chief Financial Officer.

Today's discussion will include non-GAAP references. These are reconciled to the most comparable U.S. GAAP measures in the appendix of our earnings deck. You may find the deck along with the rest of our earnings materials and other important content on Blink's Investor Relations website.

Today's discussions may also include forward-looking statements about our expectations. Actual results may differ from those stated and the most significant factors that could cause actual results to differ are included on Page 2 of the third quarter earnings deck. Unless otherwise noted, all comparisons are year-over-year.

Now regarding the Investor Relations calendar, Blink will be hosting investors at the upcoming Consumer Electronic Show, CES, between the 5th of January and the 8th of January 2023 in Las Vegas. In addition, Blink management will be participating in the Annual Needham Growth Conference in January of 2023.

I will now turn the call over to Michael D. Farkas, Founder and CEO of Blink Charging. Go ahead, Michael.

Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us. As you can see, we delivered an extremely strong third quarter of 2022 highlighted by record revenue of $17.2 million, an increase of 169% over the third quarter of 2021. During the third quarter, our product sales grew by 177%, an increase of $10.8 million compared to Q3 of 2021. Service revenue grew by 123%. Within service revenue, Blink's network fees grew by over 600%, I repeat over 600%. And this is our recurring revenue model with very, very strong gross margins.

Our record third quarter results are reflective of our strong fundamentals driven by organic and strategic opportunities. In the third quarter, we contracted, sold or deployed 7,834 commercial and residential chargers, an increase of 160% compared to the same quarter of last year. Most of our competitors don't even have that many units on their entire network, let alone deployed last Q. Our success in part is rooted in our ability to fulfill customer orders relatively quickly. Our goal is to establish Blink as a reliable provider of choice, able to comply with our customers tight deadlines even though world is still impacted by supply chain issues.

To that end, in Q3, we strategically, substantially increased the investment in our inventory levels to ensure that we had the components, equipment and products on hand to meet current and future customer and market demand.

Subsequent to the end of the quarter, we had 2 major announcements. On October 11th, we announced our all-new Blink Network and Blink Charging Mobile apps, completely redesigned from the ground up. It's there to power our next generation best-in-class EV charging experience. More on that later. And on October 18th, in conjunction with the secretary of Labor's visit to Blink headquarters, we announced our current plans to increase Blink's U.S. manufacturing capabilities to up to 100,000 chargers per year, just for the U.S. We are very excited about these announcements as these are important building blocks in our future success here in the United States and globally.

Turning to Slide 5. Blink has sold, deployed or installed nearly 59,000 chargers since the inception of the company. We have over 440,000 active users on Blink's networks, a number that has been consistently growing. Blink today has global manufacturing capabilities in the U.S., India and Taiwan, and most importantly, our advanced hardware and our networks are compatible with the standards adopted by the majority of countries around the globe.

A recent study from McKinsey published in April of this year shows that the United States alone could have 48 million EVs on the road by 2030. And globally, Bloomberg New Energy Finance recently pointed to the need for between 340 and 490 million chargers by 2040. Remember, the entire global market today has a few million viable chargers deployed at best and almost 500 million units are estimated to be needed. We view this as a massive growth trend in the marketplace and a tremendous opportunity for Blink.

Turn to Slide 6, please. At Blink, we are dedicated to providing the best in EV charging and we're proud of the new completely redesigned Blink Network and Blink Charging mobile apps. Our state-of-the-art infrastructure, tech stack and user-centric approach allowed us to create a technology platform that can be augmented quickly and efficiently without disrupting our customers. The mobile apps put EV drivers in control by giving them improved search capabilities for nearby amenities and chargers by zip code, city, business, category or address and it seamlessly integrates EV charging into everyday life. Drivers can see favorite charge locations and manage payment information as well as new payment history and real-time charging status.

I encourage everyone on this call to experience new Blink Charging apps and network for yourselves and that's by downloading it at the iOS app store or the Google Android app store.

On Slide 7, when it comes to host benefits, the entire experience has been redesigned with ease of use in mind. The new cloud-based Blink Network allows site host to manage their EV charging business in multiple languages that include English, French, Greek, Hebrew and Spanish across 25 countries with additional languages to be added. Site host will also have expanded functionality in creating dynamic pricing protocols responsive to various use cases, locations and schedules. Our new infrastructure will allow for the faster integration of our recent acquisitions, which we'll outline in our next slide.

Our legacy businesses currently operate on 4 separate networks. In the near future, all of our chargers globally will operate on 1 network. Four networks consolidated to 1 should translate into major savings and technological innovations.

Turning to Slide 8, a recap of our recent acquisitions. In June of 2022, we completed the acquisition of SemaConnect, significantly expanding our charging networks in the United States. This provides vertical integration and manufacturing capabilities in the U.S. and globally and allows Blink to comply with Buy American mandates. In April of 2022, we acquired the U.K.-based Electric Blue, giving us access to the U.K. and Ireland's fast-growing markets and adding nearly 1,200 chargers to our global footprint. So overall, as you can see, in Q3, we continue to position Blink for significant current and future growth. Our equipment, our new and updated networks and apps will serve as the foundations to launch new services and functionality in the future.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Brendan Jones, President of Blink to discuss some of our recent developments.

Thank you, Michael, and good afternoon, everyone. If we now go to Slide 10, within the last 12 months, Blink has contracted, sold, deployed or acquired over 30,000 chargers both domestically and internationally, bringing the total charger count for the company to over 58,000 chargers since Blink's inception. We have a diverse mix of deployments in the United States and abroad with 74% of the total company-wide chargers deployed in North America and 26% deployed internationally.

If you now flip to Slide 11, this is a partial list of our customers. But as you can see from the logos and verticals we operate in, this speaks to the breadth and depth of our products and services. We've won numerous multiyear contracts with a variety of well-respected commercial enterprises, health care facilities, multifamily complexes, planned communities, fleets and municipalities. We are especially seeing strong demand from fleet customers. In fact, we were selected as a preferred provider by one of the world's largest delivery service companies, which we are very, very excited about. Overall, customers choose Blink because of our flexible business model and superior products. We are the only fully integrated charging provider in the U.S. market.

Now if we go onto Slide 12, we had a great visit from U.S. Secretary of Labor, Marty Walsh, and we subsequently announced that we are planning to expand our U.S. manufacturing footprint by adding another facility to produce chargers. This new facility is targeting about 10,000 DC fast chargers and approximately 20,000 to 40,000 L2 chargers per year. Our current target, which includes the approximately 40,000 unit expansion at our Bowie Maryland facility allows Blink's annual U.S. charger production capacity to increase to up to 100,000 units. In fact, we've already visited 4 different potential locations and held discussions with the local municipality there and we've shared and discussed our plans.

In the meantime, as Michael mentioned earlier, our team has focused on securing additional inventory in order to keep up with demand. Earlier this year, it became abundantly clear to us that the supply chain constraints would persist. We decided to proactively increase inventory to ensure we could meet our customers' needs and demands.

On Slide 13, it details what we believe are industry-leading software and manufacturing capabilities. We leverage our manufacturing engineering competencies to meet all EV charging needs, a unique advantage in our competitive landscape that Blink has. Our approach has multiple benefits; 1, it allows us to test and identify hardware and software capability early in the design process; and 2, it gives us significantly more control over the supply chain inputs and manufacturing planning in our facilities in the U.S. and globally.

Now if we move to Slide 14, you can see examples of our innovative product portfolio. This includes our network HQ 200 charger, which provides up to 50 amps of Level 2 charging for homeowners. This charger is already on sale with more information to be released within the coming weeks. The network MQ design are growing commercial and fleet applications and the Series 8 charger is one of the only fully integrated chargers with credit card capabilities that complies with the credit card swipe requirements in the State of California. Notably, this is not a bolt-on solution but a fully integrated charger that we specifically designed with this functionality in mind.

Next, you can see the picture of our Vision IQ 200 charger with a new design to take advantage of advertising opportunities in urban and retail locations. And the Blink EQ series is an intelligent, affordable and scalable charging solution that fits in any location. It's compact design and it supports technologies like OCPP 2.0, bi-directional charging and V2G. The EQ 200 will be used in our European and Israeli markets.

On Slide 15, you can see our current DC fast charger offerings. What is notable here is that we have products to satisfy many applications in North America, Europe, South America and even Asia markets. These range anywhere from a 30-kilowatt wall mounted charger to a 350-kilowatt stationary charger. And that's not it. We are working diligently to introduce a more advanced DC charger to satisfy the expanding DC fast charging landscape. You can see that we have a wide-ranging portfolio of charging solutions to fit the needs of any customer, public or private, small or large, with the ability to penetrate numerous end markets.

Also before I conclude, on Slide 16, I'd like to just touch on our progress with the integration and synergies of our recent acquisitions of Blue Corner, Electric Blue and SemaConnect. All are going according to plan. On the revenue side, this is something that we addressed in the early days after the acquisition. For example, both Blink and SemaConnect sales teams starting working together on lead generation, complementing each other's efforts and product offerings. In addition, we've been working diligently on converting some of SemaConnect's largest customers to the owner-operator model. Among them are large property management companies as well as large multifamily apartment owners. One example that comes to mind is Crow Holdings.

Crow is a leading real estate investment firm with over $20 billion in assets under management. We just secured our second order of chargers for a property in Denver under the owner-operator model. Customers appreciate this flexibility in our offerings as they chose to deploy critical capital and allow Blink to own and operate the chargers at their location.

Additionally, on the cost side of the equation, we are also on track. We have completed a comprehensive study and are in the implementation phase now. Our management team is conscientious about controlling costs and maximizing synergies. We are hiring very strategically as we are implementing G&A efficiencies and optimizing our sales and customer service functions. The newly launched network and mobile application would be a tremendous component of our integration process as we bring legacy acquisition chargers onto the new network and tech infrastructure, thus reducing our overall IT and support cost spend.

All in all, we are very, very proud with the performance in the third quarter. Our fundamentals are strong as we delivered record, and I'd say that again, record results in Q3, even without realizing the full benefits and synergies from our recent acquisitions. We are positioning Blink for current and future growth, driven by the fast adoption of electric vehicles and favorable regulatory environments, this includes the administration's $7.5 billion infrastructure plan and the Inflation Reduction Act in the U.S. and numerous government programs in Europe and elsewhere. We are very, very, very excited of what's next for Blink.

I will now turn it over to our CFO, Michael Rama, to run through some of the specific financial results for the quarter. Go ahead, Michael.

Thank you, Brendan, and good afternoon, everyone. Turning to Slide 18. Total revenue in the third quarter of 2022 grew to $17.2 million, another record for the company and an increase of $10.8 million or 169% compared to the third quarter of 2021. The solid performance in the quarter was driven by organic growth, underlying by the strong fundamentals in our business and the results from acquisitions of Electric Blue and SemaConnect. Year-to-date through September 30, 2022, our total revenues were $38.5 million compared to $13 million for the first 9 months of 2021. With an increase of $25.5 million, we have nearly tripled our revenue for the first 3 quarters when compared with the same period in 2021.

Product sales in the third quarter of 2022 were at $13.4 million, an increase of $8.5 million or 177% over the same period in 2021, as customers purchased greater volumes of our commercial, DC, fast chargers and residential chargers. Third quarter 2022 service revenues, which consist of charging service revenues, network fees and ridesharing revenues were $3.1 million, an increase of 123% compared to the third quarter of 2023. The year-over-year growth is primarily due to the increased utilization of our chargers and an increased number of chargers on Blink's networks.

We combined these 3 service revenue line items into one amount to differentiate between the product and service aspects of our business, and this approach also aligns with our company's strategic goal of increasing the service component of our revenue mix and growing our recurring revenue base. In time, as EV adoption accelerates and utilization of our charging stations improves, we anticipate seeing a larger mix of revenues come from services.

Gross profit for the third quarter of 2022 was approximately $4.8 million or 28% of revenue. This compares to about $900,000 or 14% of revenue in the third quarter of 2021. As you can see, our gross profit doubled year-over-year as a percentage of revenues, primarily driven by stronger performance in product sales, service revenues and improved performance in ridesharing and warranty. As we expand our in-house production capacity, we expect continued improvements in our gross profit.

Operating expenses in the third quarter of 2022 were $29.3 million compared to $16.7 million in the prior-year period. This increase is primarily due to higher expenses in the areas of accounting, legal, marketing, investor relations and consulting. Also included in the operating expenses for the third quarter of 2022 is increased amortization of intangible assets associated with the acquisitions of SemaConnect and EB. This is an expense that will continue but is non-cash in nature. Furthermore, the increase in operating expenses includes operating expenses from both SemaConnect and EB that were not included in the results for the third quarter of 2021.

Adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter of 2022 was a loss of $17.6 million compared to a loss of $8.4 million in the prior-year period due to the previously mentioned higher operating expenses. Adjusted EBITDA as a percentage of revenues for the third quarter and for the first 9 months of 2022, both improved by about 1/3 when compared to the same periods in 2021. This performance was achieved without the impact of synergies that we expect to realize going forward.

Adjusted earnings per share for the third quarter of 2022 was a loss of $0.47 compared to a loss of $0.36 in the prior-year period. Non-GAAP adjusted EPS is defined as adjusted net income, which excludes significant non-cash items such as amortization of intangible assets and non-recurring expenses such as acquisition related expenses divided by the number of shares outstanding.

Now turning to Slide 19. Our revenues and gross profit performed very well in the third quarter of 2022, continuing the upward trend that we've seen over the past several quarters now, in part boosted by results from recent acquisitions. As we execute on our flexible solutions of owner operated strategy, sell hardware or facilitate the installation of chargers and continue to further vertically integrate the key components such as hardware design and manufacturing, we believe that we are well positioned to continuing to capture market share and drive revenue growth. I have to say that in today's inflationary environment, customers appreciate our flexible business model as customers themselves can decide on how to deploy their capital.

Moving to our cash position. At September 30, 2022, the company had approximately $57 million of cash. It is notable here that we have been proactive in increasing our inventory levels in the third quarter by nearly $7 million sequentially to ensure proper levels of product on hand to mitigate supply chain risks and to support our rapid growth in demand.

We are very pleased with the results for the third quarter. Not only did we achieve record revenues, we also showed significant improvements in our operating results. These are testament to our flexible operating model and the strong demand for products that satisfy a wide variety of customers from homeowners, renting residents and multiple multifamily units, the sophisticated Fortune 50 fleet customers as we continue to integrate the recent acquisitions and leverage the operating efficiencies to drive continued growth.

I will now turn the call back over to Michael Farkas for a few final comments. Go ahead, Michael.

The third quarter of 2022 was another monumental quarter for Blink. We achieved significant year-over-year top line growth, driven by organic and strategic opportunities. We launched a newly completely redesigned network in apps and we announced plans to increase manufacturing in the United States.

Blink is unique in our industry, because we are the only fully vertically integrated EV charging provider in the U.S. While our competitors typically offer products or charging services, Blink designs, manufacturers, owns the network that operates our chargers, deploys the hardware and we also own a substantial amount of our equipment in the field. In addition, we offer a modern tech stack and we provide business models that best serve our customers. We have a hardware solution for every type of location, whether single or multifamily residential, fleet and workplace, retail, commercial and even high traffic travel corridors and with multiple deployment methodologies to get those chargers out there, giving us unparalleled optionality to property owners that none of our competitors can't match. For example if a property owners simply wants to buy equipment, we'll certainly do that. However, we prefer the value added structure provided by our owner-operator model, creating a substantial long-term exclusive recurring revenue model for Blink.

Before I conclude, there's one last thing I'd like to share with you. As Blink has done with Level 2 chargers in the past, Blink and the combined Sema are going to do with DC fast chargers in the future. I'm very proud to show you the current design of our new DC supercharger that is under development. In addition to having superior esthetics, this will be our best-in-class type charger, compatible with the highest voltage vehicle architectures like the 800-volt architecture you see in some of the most advanced EV being released. Pricing and availability will be off the charts. We can't wait to tell you more about it in the future.

With that, we will now open the call for questions.

(Operator Instructions) Your first question is coming from Stephen Gengaro with Stifel.

I think there's 2 things from me. The first would be around the product margins. You delivered I think about 35% product margins. They were up, I don't know, 700, 800 points sequentially. When we think about the product side of the business and obviously you have integrated here a Sema business, SemaConnect business, how should we think about the progress in those margins going forward? Was there any anomalies here or is this a trend that we should see improvements? I understand the supply chain issues, inflation et cetera. But how should we think about those margins going forward?

Very simply, we're going from a path of us having a third parties manufacturer equipment for us to doing it internally. So it's going to be very impactful to the Blink business moving forward.

And when we think about the --

And by the way, I just wanted to be very clear that's not happening overnight. As you mentioned, there are issues with the supply chain. So we're looking to get equipment from all of our different vendors today. But the ultimate goal is for us to produce our own goods and that brings us up a couple of notches when it comes to having to procure equipment and components and so on and will ultimately to -- we believe higher margins in the future.

And then the other one -- and I've asked you this before and I'm trying to get a sense of, when we think about the services revenue line and the traction there and I understand EV adoption is a big driver too, but how should we think about the number of units that are driving that business? Because like as we -- as it evolves, I mean, imagine those margins get better and the utilization goes up. But is there any way to think about sort of the -- whether the numbers are going up because you're getting more throughput at your existing installed base or if it's just simply a function of the installed base going up?

It's actually a combination of both. We're seeing higher utilization at our current chargers and we're getting more -- obviously a lot more chargers out in the field.

And any guidance on how to sort of model that going forward? It's obviously a high margin business, so I'm trying to get a sense for how to think about that number.

Michael, do you want to maybe give a better visibility on that?

Yes. I will give you color. No, we're expecting -- as EV penetration continues to expand, we expect (technical difficulty) because remember that that number services not only -- it's charging revenues but also network connectivity, right, so as well as some other ancillary services. So as more units are connected, more online, more connected to the networks and as well as more EV adoption and penetration in service revenue -- utilization increases. We expect that to continue to increase and go higher. As we've always said, that's our sweet spot and owner-operator really generating revenues -- high gross profit revenues from the service side of the business.

Your next question is coming from Matt Summerville with D.A. Davidson.

Couple of questions. First, just with respect to capacity, can you remind us what your current in-house capability is between Maryland, India and I think you mentioned Taiwan? And how this new capacity comes online, will it be in waves, will it be all at once, just remind around the timing of it and then what the ultimate run rate is and how quickly you think you can be actually producing at capacity? And then I have a follow-up.

Okay. So let's start first with U.S.-based capacity and what it looks like today. So right now, we're between 10,000 and 11,000 units out of the Bowie facility and that's the current state. As we mentioned during the acquisition, the plan is to increase that to upwards of 50,000. Those plans are in (technical difficulty). The first phase of that plan is increasing the shifts, from what they are now at a standard 1 shift to up to 2 shifts and then moving to 3 shifts to up the capacity there. The subset of that plan is a little bit more spinners added to that facility to get us up to that 50,000 mark. When you think about the relationship between Bowie and then India, India becomes the parts manufacturer of all the components that are needed and all those components, for instance, subsystems put together in Bowie and the finished product is shifted out from there. So that's how we get to the 50,000. Those plans are, as I said, in play.

The second or Phase 2 of the big master plan is to acquire some additional land within the United States. Then once we acquire that land, go ahead and build or buy a parcel with the building on it. And then in that facility, we'll begin to construct the DC fast chargers and add additional L2 capacity to meet the expected market demand, as Michael outlined in his original comments.

Now [Lydon], in parallel, everything is not going to happen at once, so we'd have to maintain our global manufacturing presence through third-party contract suppliers such as Lydon our third-party partners in Europe simultaneously. So, those are the high level on all of that. Let me know if you need any clarity as we move forward.

No, that's helpful. And then just a housekeeping item. Relative to the $17.2 million in revenue that you guys generated this quarter, Michael can you disclose what the acquisitive contribution was, we can get to an organic growth number for Blink?

Yes, I'll provide. We -- between Sema and EB for the quarter, it generated about $6.5 million in revenues. So it was the contribution and it was -- so but we still had good organic growth as well for the quarter.

Your next question is coming from Chris Souther with B. Riley.

Maybe just a bit more on parsing out some of the acquisitions. Are any of the services revenue coming from either EB Charging or SemaConnect or is that mostly in the product side?

We're getting both. We're getting service as well as product with the network fees as well as the charging revenues from EB. It also has an owner-operator model that also produces charging revenues as well.

So the charging services revenue, that's coming from company-owned stations and networks could be --

Network and all that, so yes.

Yes, okay. So you're getting network from them as well and potentially networks from ones that you don't own as well would be kind of a way to parse it out?

That's correct.

The other one we didn't mention there, but it's in there is a service contract revenue you get on non-Blink owned equipment that applies. So all the different iterations, so it's networking services and service contract revenue.

Okay. That all makes sense. Can you provide maybe an update on the size of the Blink-owned station footprint and any rough ballpark of where the utilization is today if you're discussing improvements that we're seeing lately?

Michael?

Yes, we're seeing on the network, as we mentioned in our comments, there's 4 networks now. There's close to 44,000 units on all the combined networks between Blink, SemaConnect and all the networks that we have from the various companies that we've acquired. And utilization, we continue to see increases in utilization. There is more EV penetration, still similar to how the adoption of the EV is penetrating from a EV vehicle standpoint, but also we're seeing even higher utilization in Europe still. So all is trending, like I said, it's trending in the positive direction and we're encouraged what the third quarter produced.

Okay. Maybe just my last one, I think last call you talked about working with your consultants around synergies with Sema, just wanted to see if any update on quantifying the cost that you think you can get there and timelines around the broader roadmap of the combined, which I think was part 2 of that engagement?

Yes, so I'll pick up that that part. So in terms of realizing synergies, we're at -- on the sales side of it, we're already actively involved in combining the organizations together. That activity is already happening. As we outlined in the call, we're already exposing both businesses and sales teams, which now are becoming one sales team with a multiple group of products. We've already started to cross population of them selling -- Sema team selling the Blink owner-operator model. And of that is where we're really positioning long-term revenue streams. Because as you are aware, the model that we put together is a learning model, so it keeps refreshing itself and getting more data on where the most optimum sites are for the owner-operator model. We're able to cross supply that data and look at the SemaConnect portfolio and find those sites where the return on investment is going to be quite good over time and we've already started to capture business as we outlined as a result of that.

So sales synergies moving on, operational synergies are moving forward right now. We have a dedicated team after an initial analysis put forth which is combining all those operations as they relate to support call center, network operations center, service and maintenance. All those are underway and we'll realize the true benefit synergies of them as we move into 2023.

Your last question is coming from Sameer Joshi with H.C. Wainwright.

Yes. So just a couple of questions on the actual results. The network fees you were pointing out, substantially higher. Was this mainly because of the acquisition or was there some organic growth in the network fees as well?

So, it's -- it was actually both and we've seen the SemaConnect acquisition but also the organic growth that's driving the network connectivity and the expansion of our more chargers and more adoption into the -- of the networks.

Yes. And then between the -- in the operating expenses, we see compensation and general administrative costs sort of swap. The compensation went up and the general and G&A costs went down during the quarter sequentially. Is there something that you want to point out there what's going on?

Yes, in the comp, what's included in the compensation expense is share-based compensation. So sequentially, we had higher share-based comp that got accounted for during the third quarter because of grant and equity that was granted during the -- I think was in the second quarter, but certain achievements were accomplished in those programs. So a majority of that is going to be the share-based comp that went up, not cash, if you will. And it's good to see that the G&A -- so we're working hard, so it's showing. So we're working on the G&A and we're trying to get a sense of -- we're working to integrate and see where we could be more scalable and start to see some of those reflected early on.

Understood. So we can see some operating leverage, not just by increase its revenues but also by reduced costs?

That's the expectation. Yes, as we move forward, our OpEx as a percentage of revenues is expected to decrease just as we expand and penetrate and really integrate the acquisitions into Blink, so.

Got it. And then just stepping back, the $7.5 billion of which is coming through the States, what visibility do you have on individual stage programs and how they are implementing it or planning to implement it, if you have any insight that we may not know about, that would be great.

Yes. So all states now have been approved under the federal program. So the NEVI plans they submitted are approved. Now it's back to the states to move forward with their implementation program. No state has moved forward with RFP yet. Most are in the very beginning stages of RFI. So it is what they're going to -- how they're going to define who the players that are active in the state and are going through that analysis and then individually they're adjusting and being additive to the NEVI scorecard on what they want for the state. No state can reduce the requirements as outlined by NEVI or the scorecard. We are in conversations with the multiplicity of states as they're asking preliminary information. We're meeting with as many states as possible to discuss the Blink and Blink's capabilities under NEVI and we continue making progress on that. But as of yet, we're not seeing anything being issued yet and we'll see how aggressive it is in Q1 of next year.

We're anticipating the bulk of NEVI to be played out as you get into Q3 and then into Q4 and then indeed into 2024 as well. And as you know, the program is deemed to stretch further out and the funding is available further out. So we'll -- we're being aggressive keeping up the speed, working with the states and we'll continue do so amongst months and quarters that follow.

Yes, that's good to know. Thanks for that insight and glad that you are at the forefront. Just one last question about this new supercharger design. Will it be ready for CES at least in a conceptual form or something?

Most likely not.

Okay -- sorry go ahead.

I said most likely not but we may surprise you.

Okay. Good to know. Congrats on all the progress over the last several quarters.

We have a follow-up question coming from Stephen Gengaro with Stifel.

Just could you remind me as we think about the fourth quarter and just sort of the moving pieces on the top line, can you just remind us about sort of seasonality and different puts and takes we should be thinking about that impact the fourth quarter?

Go ahead, Michael.

No, no. Obviously, look, as we saw with the sales that got reported over 7,800, we expect that's an indicator where we think the quarter could start at. But obviously, the unknown is going to be the weather. So some areas could be impacted and it just depends. So it could be a little variable that we're unsure of at this point. But Michael, you might have more color on that.

Yes. Other than that again, the industry is growing and there is a lot of incentives nationwide and even areas globally to get the charging equipment deployed. There's also mandates in certain areas now, new construction and so on. So we're staying on top of all of that and the industry is growing. And if you heard what I said earlier, Bloomberg predicts that by 2040 you're going to need about 0.5 billion charging stations globally. So we've got to get from where we are today which is only a couple of million chargers that are deployed today, viable chargers and get to that almost 500 million number to be able to really support eMobility globally. So we're seeing tremendous growth. We're seeing tremendous demand. We expect that growth to continue for the foreseeable future.

But about from a seasonality -- from a fourth quarter perspective, are there -- can you please talk about whether I think of us of new car sales may be rising, is there any sort of normal seasonal patterns in the fourth quarter or is it just over one --

Sometimes. Remember, we're installing the equipment out in the elements. There are certain areas where it's very, very difficult if the ground is very, very cold. So the seasons do impact deployments. So again, it could impact negatively. And if we have a really mild winter, it could allow us to accelerate our growth. But yes, typically in these times, because it is a lot of outdoor work and these units are deployed and the elements it could impact things based on weather.

Great. That's helpful color. Just trying to think about the fourth quarter, but I appreciate the color.

Other than that, we see massive growth. Again, there's a lot of amazing automobiles on the road today that really satisfy a lot of different consumers' needs and desires. You're seeing the highest end of the market being electrified and you're seeing the lowest end of the market being electrified now. It is the future of mobility and we need to make sure that there's enough charging infrastructure available to fuel all these cars that are coming into the marketplace. It's that simple.

Excellent. Thank you everyone for your time.