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Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by.
Welcome to the Best Buy's conference call for the second quarter of fiscal 2008.
At this time, all participates are in a listen-only mode.
Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session.
(OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS) As a reminder, this call is being recorded for playback and will be available by 12:00 p.m.
Eastern time today.
(OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS) I would now like to turn the call over to Jennifer Driscoll, Vice President of Investor Relations.
Please go ahead, Mrs.
Driscoll.
- VP, IR
Thank you.
Good morning, everyone.
Thanks for participating in our second quarter conference call.
We have five speakers for you today.
First Brian Dunn, our President and COO; second up is Bob Willett, CEO of International and Chief Information Officer; third, we have Dave Morrish, Senior Vice President of our PC Mobility Group; fourth Sean Skelley, Senior Vice President of Services; and finally, Jim Muehlbauer, CFO of Best Buy U.S.
As usual we also have a broad management group here with me in the room to answer your questions following our formal remarks.
As usual we would like to request that callers limit themselves to a single question so that we can include more people in our Q&A session, especially with five speakers.
Consistent with our approach on prior calls we will move to the end of the queue those who asked the questions on last quarter's call.
And I guess we have still have 100 or so dialing in.
I would like to remind you that comments made by me or by others representing Best Buy may contain forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties.
Our SEC filings contain additional information about factors that could cause our actual results to differ from management's expectations.
As usual the media are participating in this call in a listen-only mode.
With that I'll turn the call over to Brian Dunn, who will begin our prepared remarks.
- President, COO
Thank you have, Jen, and good morning everyone.
In our last conference call we talked about two sets of results from our first quarter.
Our financial results which were disappointing and what we called our strategic results--customer satisfaction, loyalty, and market share.
These strategic results, which we believe are more indicative of our real progress over the long haul were very encouraging in the first quarter.
The good news from our second quarter is that those strategic results continued to move in the right direction.
Our market share once again increased over last year, so did our customer satisfaction scores and our memberships in Reward Zone, the loyalty program for our best U.S.
customers increased to almost 25 million members.
We're also obviously, pleased with the financial results we're sharing with you today, which we see as being more aligned with our strategic progress.
The strategy we have chosen to get to the unmet needs of customers -- excuse me -- and where it's back from there to create solutions for them.
This strategy does not lend itself to a linear path, and the results won't be linear either.
We're following a compass, not a detailed map.
It's why we plan our business on an annual and not a quarterly basis.
We're also pleased with our financial performance because we believe it demonstrates our ability to learn and to adapt better and faster to our customer's needs and the demands of an extremely challenging marketplace.
We learned from what we're seeing and hearing in the first quarter, before it was even over, and adapted the maps we're creating and working from across the Best Buy enterprise on a global scale and in the fabric of each of our businesses, reacting to what our customers in the marketplace in general were telling us.
And that's a theme you'll hear repeated throughout our remarks today.
In a minute my colleague Bob Willett, will share some of the details behind the tremendous news we bring you from Canada and China.
The results we're enjoying there and more importantly the lessons learned along the way will benefit the entire enterprise because we are applying what we learn across borders and oceans even while they continue to adjust and improve upon that as we go.
What we learn also informs and guides our expansion plans in other countries because each market is unique.
With unique sets of customers and their unmet needs.
No company or country for that matter has a monopoly on good ideas.
We're not concerned about where a good idea comes from.
We're very clear it's not our plan to force Best Buy on the world, but to bring the best of the world to Best Buy.
And then to continuously share what we learned back and forth in pursuit of offering the best possible experience no matter where you are.
You'll also hear this morning from Dave Morrish and Sean Skelley who will illustrate the importance of offering a large assortment of products, and differentiated experiences supported by services that help our customers.
To drive the point home, we'll also illustrate where our market share might have been without this powerful combination.
Speaking of services, one of the specifics Sean will discuss is the new services disclosure.
The timing is ironic, in some respects because we're separating out the revenue from our services business just as we're learning to fully embrace the fact that services are not a separate line item, but are in fact the life blood of all of our business.
Be that as it may, we hope providing this information will increase the level of transparency and expand the dialogue on this critical piece of strategy.
Finally, Jim Muehlbauer will run the anchor leg for our team today and give you some additional context around the numbers.
In short, we're raising the bottom of our annual guidance range because of our second quarter results and our expectation for the back half of the year.
And now I want to close my remarks by giving credit where credit is due, to our people.
The men and women of Best Buy enterprise came through again, and I want to thank them and congratulate them not only for their hard work, but for their leadership in a challenging environment, which gives us optimism as we look ahead to the holiday shopping season.
I know I speak for this entire management team when I say that we are proud to represent them here today.
With that, I turn it over to Bob Willett.
- CEO, International, Chief Information Officer
Thanks, Brian.
My comments this morning will begin with an update on our growing business in China.
Since we get a lot of investor questions about that.
Then I'll share my thoughts on the adaptations that drove Canada's performance.
I'll wrap-up with an update on our work with Carphone warehouse, our strategic partner in the UK.
I too would like to start with congratulations to our team in Canada and China as well as our global sourcing team.
Collectively these teams delivered revenue growth of 54%.
It's very hard to produce double-digit comparable store sales gains on top of a 9.3% gain for the previous year.
For the second quarter, we reported a 16.3% comparable store sales gain for international, which at the moment includes exclusively our Canadian stores.
Our global sourcing teams are also creating great outcomes to our private label brands, delivering a unique point of difference for our customers in each country.
Our international revenue growth reflected the gains in Canada, which I'll explain later, as well as the acquisition last summer of Five Star, which continues to grow it's top line at rapid pace.
Our Five Star stores continue to be on plan for revenue as we focus on meeting the needs of the Chinese consumer.
We are making good progress with tests underway related to a new operating model for our Five Star stores, taking the best ideas from what we see throughout the world and yet expressing them in a way that serves the Five Star customer segments and brand.
These stores will look very different to the customer, compared to the end-market Best Buy stores, yet they will be consistent with our overall strategy, including more local economy for the staff, inventory, and the merchandising.
Our Best Buy store in Shanghai also continues to perform, giving us confidence as we move forward with preparations for the next two Best Buy stores in Shanghai.
We have also attracted high-caliber talent in China and Turkey, and are in the process of hiring leaders and finding real estate in Mexico.
We remain on track to open a handful of stores in both countries within the next 12 to 18 months.
We're in the middle of assessing the customer segments in these markets as we speak.
Entering the Turkey marketplace also offers us the opportunity to expand our global sourcing capabilities.
As our news release indicated one of the key drivers of Best Buy's out performance this quarter was the result we garnered in international.
We experienced double-digit comps at both Future Shop and Best Buy stores in Canada this quarter.
These gains came primarily from an increase in the average ticket without sacrificing margins.
Our gross profit rate for Canada improved by 50 basis points.
With the help of good execution and teamwork we also improved SG&A in Canada by a full 220 basis points, due to the expense leverage on higher volumes, coupled with more disciplined spending.
Operating profits in Canada improved by more than 30 million year-over-year.
Altogether our operating profit in Canada, which was 0.5% five years ago, now is on track to approach 4% for this fiscal year and on its way to 5%.
My colleague, Brian commented that we create value for shareholders when we are fast to project and adapt to changes in consumer needs and wants.
Those adaptations can create structural barriers for competitors.
In smaller, fast-growing economies, this phenomena is even produced.
Not only do these economies diversify our companies revenue streams and give us opportunities for faster growth, but they afford us very useful benefits.
Oftentimes we have the opportunity to apply a successful adaptation in one market to boost results in other markets where we operate.
One of our strengths at Best Buy is scaling new ideas.
We go at break-neck speed once we crystallize our thinking around a successful innovation, like Geek Squad.
That's a U.S.
example, but the point is we love new ideas and are agnostic about their country of origin.
It's all a part of our philosophy of bringing the world to Best Buy as opposed to taking Best Buy to the world.
And it's also consistent with our overall approach to running our business in an integrated way, supported by a common platform throughout.
It may be helpful to provide a specific example of sharing adaptations between countries.
Here are three striking examples, where we shared good ideas with Canada from our supply chain program in the states.
Global sourcing, price optimization, and Private Label goods.
These adaptations are providing benefits to Canada this year.
We have also had successful adaptations flow in the reverse direction, such as when we took good ideas from our international segment back to the core.
As an example there will is the success we've had in Canada in anticipating how certain customer segments look to purchase TVs differently from other customer segments.
This change lifted our market share and our financial results.
Today we are implementing a variation of this concept in the states.
Dual branding is another such instance.
What we have seen so far with dual branding in China and in Canada makes us biased in favor of using dual brands in any new country we enter in the future.
Likewise, as we look around the global for the best adaptation for customer needs, we realized that in areas where we may be weak, the best way to improve our effectiveness quickly is by working with outside partners and sharing insights with each other.
Accordingly we sought out partners with unique strengths like HSBC, Virgin Mobile, and of course, Carphone Warehouse.
So last by not least, I would like to give you an update of our relationship with the Carphone Warehouse.
As you read in this morning's news release we have acquired a minority shareholder position in Europe's largest mobile communications retailer, which is in my opinion, highly respected.
CPW shares our passion and culture around customer excellence.
This partnership with Carphone Warehouse is very exciting because of the potential to bring together our individual competencies in order to create a vastly superior customer experience.
It's one of the many growth options that hold particular excitement for our people.
Our minority ownership stake in CPW reaffirms our commitment to our strategic partnership.
Working with this best in class company gives us capabilities and expertise that complement our own assets.
Assets such as the 500 million visitors into our U.S.
stores annually and the successful Geek Squad operating model.
We previously announced our partnership with respect to rolling out Best Buy Mobile in the United States and eventually in other countries where we operate.
This work continues to proceed.
We now operate 41 Best Buy Mobile stores within a store as well as the original five stand-alone locations in the states.
Knowing how important services are to customers, we recently have reached agreements on launching home computing support services in the United Kingdom.
We began offering Geek Squad in London in March.
We are pleased with the initial results and hope that we'll see the results we need in order to offer Geek Squad services eventually in other locations where CPW operates.
Thank you for listening.
I would now like to pass you over to Dave Morrish who will give an update on how adaptation has helped us drive our success in computing.
Dave.
- SVP, PCP Mobility
Great.
Thanks, Bob, and good morning.
Bob gave us very good examples of adaptation in our international business.
I would like to build on those examples in the context of adapting our computer business to support customer's changing needs, which we have accomplished in challenging industry environment.
As many of you know Best Buy has enjoyed a leading market share position in computing for the past several years.
We believe that having a differentiated experience in computing is critical to the success of our overall strategy as an electronics retailer, particularly as the world gets more connected and as our products get more integrated.
Computings lower margins tend to get negative ink.
Yet in the first half, our operating profits in home office increased.
The drivers included higher volumes, lower cost, and a better understanding of our customer's needs.
We also had solid double-digit comparable store sale gains in sales of notebooks to consumers.
Our performance in desk top computers were more modest, yet were still industry leading.
We believe that the story here like other areas of our business is around successfully adapting our model to allow us to grow.
Vista provided a new way to utilize computers and we adapted our business to take advantage of that occurrence.
At the same time, the launch of Vista operating system created new learning challenges for our customers.
This transition was made easier because of the support provided by our Geek Squad agents, specifically our Geek Squad agents personalized the screens for our Vista customers so they would better understand its features and benefits.
Over the past few years we have been able to mine our customer database and gain a much better understanding of how consumers want to utilize their computing products.
We now understand that for some the computer is becoming a tool of self-expression or creativity.
For others it's a tool that increasingly help them stay connected and share their lives with loved ones.
And for others, it's simply a tool to help them manage their lives.
We have used these insights to boost our results.
Specifically we have worked with our manufacturers to create unique PCs.
PCs that support the pursuits of personal experiences.
We recognize that our customers have changing preferences, including greater interests in variations of size, style, design, and color.
Our customer insight about the power of the Apple brand prompted other adaptations for us, we had tested Apple computers four times in recent years and never really cracked the code.
However, last year, supported by Geek Squad, Apple Labor, and customer insights we landed on a new successful model, so we expanded the test to 50 stores and today approximately 200 Best Buy stores carry Apple computers.
By the end of October we'll have approximately 200 Apple -- 270 Apple locations.
We'll monitor the results through the holidays and consider more Apple locations after year-end.
So far it appears that this business is largely incremental for us and it is definitely generating customer traffic.
Another way we use customer insights is to create unique product bundles that bring the whole experience to life.
Look for new bundles this fall in our print ads and our end caps and online.
We are utilizing Canada's approach with a unified, multi-channel story, another example supporting Bob's point.
Now, assume for a moment that we had the right products price points, designs, brands, and bundles, plus the availability of services.
Even after all of that we're still not done meeting the unique needs of our customers.
We complete this task only after we train our employees to demonstrate how these can help our customers fulfill their dreams and ambitions.
That's actually more important than giving them the technical details.
If we can do all of these things better than our competition does it shows up in revenue, profits, and customer satisfaction scores.
All of these indicators have been pointing north.
It also should show up in market share.
In the last quarter for which we have data, we believe our share of consumer market for notebooks rose over 3 points, that's a large bump for one year and it's been growing steadily, actually since the national launch of Geek Squad.
In fact, since that national launch we believe that our market share in computing has actually doubled.
Likewise, my colleague, Mike Vitelli, tells me that the market share in flat panel TVs has grown materially as well.
When we compare our flat panel share today to what we had prior to having robust home theater installation capability the difference is striking.
We have garnered over a 50% increase.
Now, there were other factors of course, such as improved assortment of bundles, yet we believe that our market share increases in computing and home theater wouldn't be as high as they are today without our services capability.
So as we look at the success of the second quarter, our discussion would be incomplete without talking about services.
I know Sean agrees.
With that we give you Sean Skelley, the Senior VP who heads up our Services Group.
Sean?
- SVP, Services
Thanks, Dave.
We certainly have learned over the last few years how integral services are to customer centricity.
As you remember we accelerated Geek Squad in 2004 because we realized we couldn't be customer centric without it.
Not that is it is a silver bullet, but it does enable us to serve our customers better.
We disclosed our service revenue for the first time this quarter, so I want to take the opportunity to frame up the business, I view our role as a service organization as twofold.
First, we support the customer experience and deliver our brand promise.
Second, we drive revenue and profit through the sales of services.
Our role in delivering the right customer experience shows up in a lot of different ways, let me talk about two.
The tangible way for us to measure and track customer dissatisfaction is through returns.
Not only do returns represent customers that haven't been fully satisfied but they also add cost to our supply chain.
That is an opportunity for us on both a customer front and a financial front.
We know when home theater transactions involve a service component our returns drop over 10%.
We also know when a computing transaction involves Geek Squad it lowers returns nearly half.
We see evidence that providing services results in a substantially better customer experience and clearly helps our bottom line.
That brings me to the second way we track whether we are enabling a better customer experience.
As you know, this year, our total Company on America Customer Satisfaction Index jumped from 71 to 76.
We are very proud that our total Company customer satisfaction scores are moving up.
And our scores and services have been some of the strongest movers.
We feel a big responsibility to help deliver the brand promise to our customers, and I think you are seeing that play out in our market share and customer satisfaction numbers.
The second role for services, as I mentioned, is to drive revenue and profit growth for the enterprise, that speaks, in part, to the numbers that we have disclosed in this news release.
As you saw, services represent 6% of the revenue in the second quarter and grew at 5.3% on a comparable store basis.
I think that number understates the actual value and role that services plays in bringing all of the products together for our customers, but you have to draw a box around the business and break it out separately.
I think Dave made the point really well--we wouldn't have our current market share in computing without Geek Squad, and that works both ways, we wouldn't be nearly as successful with Geek Squad if it weren't for our dominance in computing and TV.
Now I'll give you come context on the pieces of the services revenue.
And the moving parts in the growth rate.
The largest business in the service category is the commissions we earn through the sales of extended warranty.
The second largest bucket in the consumer services which include services in computing, home theater, and mobile installation, largely performed by the Geek Squad, revenues from product repairs is the third bucket, appliance installation, delivery, and other items make up the balance.
For annual context, the global service business was approximately $1.9 billion in fiscal 2007.
Finally, here is what we have seen in the growth rate.
The Geek Squad computing and home theater business delivered a double-digit comp gains.
Our product repair revenue comped up modestly, these gains were partially offset by a single-digit decline in the sale of warranties.
I mentioned the inclusion of home theater and mobile installation in the Geek Squad brand earlier.
We are very proud of the brand and the capabilities that we have built and the fantastic customer response.
We are bringing the strength of the Geek Squad brand to all of our installation service offerings, the benefit that we deliver for consumers is in making the technology work for them when and where they need it.
Our customers already thought that Geek Squad did more than servicing computers and now we do, which I think speaks directly to the strength of the brand and the confidence we are inspiring.
Looking forward we truly believe we have just scratched the surface in responding to those customer needs.
Our focus is obviously to grow our business but not as a stand-alone P&L, frankly, operating services in a stand-alone fashion would limit our potential.
We see a huge market opportunity by enabling all of the other parts of the Company to deliver full solutions to our customers.
At the end of the day, our customers just want to enjoy their stuff, and we will be there for the entire experience.
That is our value, that's our true value.
And now I would like to turn it over to Jim Muehlbauer.
- CFO
Thank you have, Sean.
And good morning, everyone.
As Brian mentioned up front, our strategic resolve remained unchanged from the first quarter, and we were able to achieve better financial results in an environment that showed more signs of economic unrest.
Overall, the quarter played out better than we originally expected with a few things driving upside in our performance.
Fiscal year to date, the total revenue rose 15%, and operating income now stands flat with last year.
While we certainly have a ways to go to complete the year, we are pleased with the results in the quarter and remain confident in our ability to deliver solid performance for the year.
Two key areas exceeded our expectations for the quarter.
Fist, the gross profit rate in the U.S., particularly in the home theater business was better than we expected.
Second, the continued strong results from Canada that Bob detailed earlier.
Those were the top financial stories for the quarter.
With those as headlines, I want to walk you through the highlights of our performance in the quarter, update you on the progress we have made in evolving our capital structure, and review our guidance for fiscal 2008.
First, total revenue of $8.8 billion was slightly ahead of expectations, based on better than expected top-line growth in Canada.
The revenue growth in Canada was fueled by 16% comparable store sales gain, positive foreign exchange impact, and new stores.
The U.S.
business remained largely unchanged from the first quarter and delivered a 1.7% comparable store sales gain which was in line with our expectations.
We continue to see strong growth in computing and gaming, as well as strength in our online channel.
The U.S.
online channel delivered over a 20% comp in the period.
Home theater sales for the quarter also finished in line with our expectations, but continue to be constrained by softer consumer demand in the industry.
We continue to press our advantage in this space by expanding our high definition advantage solutions to include audio, advanced DVD, and gaming which provide customers with the complete experience they want for entertaining their friends and family.
We firmly believe that the combination of these customer focused solutions and strong execution by our retail and services team, provided the platform for our profitable market share in this important business.
The overall gross profit rate decline of 60 basis points improved significantly over our performance in the first quarter, when margins declined approximately 150 basis points.
Let me break down the key drivers of the year-over-year change.
First, the addition of the China business drove 30 basis points of the decline in the second quarter, as expected.
We will begin to fully lap the inclusion of the China business in the third quarter.
The balance of the decline was driven by the anticipated mix effect of growth in computing and gaming hardware, which was partially offset by improvements in home theater.
The home theater margin improvements were driven by sharper pricing, excellent retail execution, and more efficient promotional spending.
Our Company-wide SG&A rate improved 80 basis points.
International business accounted for over 50 basis points of the year-over-year improvement.
First, strong revenue and solid expense performance in Canada contributed 20 basis points of the improvement to the enterprise.
Second, the in addition of the China business, which carries a lower SG&A rate contributed 30 basis points to the enterprise reduction.
SG&A spending in our U.S.
business which drove 30 basis points of improvement, was once again in line with our plans as we appropriately edited and managed costs in the softer comp environment we saw in the first half.
Our field teams continue to refine their operating model and drive productivity gains.
We were pleased with this level of SG&A leverage in the U.S.
especially given the revenue environment.
Net, it adds up to roughly a 25 basis point improvement in the operating income rate, and more importantly a 21% increase in operating income dollars.
Bottom line we grew our EPS 17%.
All in all we're pleased with the momentum we started to build in the second quarter, especially in an environment that continues to have mixed signals.
Next, I want to give you a status update on our use of capital to drive growth and shareholder returns.
Fiscal year to date we have opened up 67 new stores globally, including 51 in the U.S.
We are on track for our plans to open up 130 to 135 new stores globally this year, a record for the enterprise.
And continue to see this as a high-return investment.
We are also very pleased with our progress on the accelerated share repurchase program.
Our confidence in our people, our business strategy, and growth -- and growth options, makes this a great investment in our view.
Especially at our current stock price.
Given the significant changes to our total shares outstanding, I thought it would be helpful to provide context on our share count expectations for the balance of the year.
Under the ASR, we have repurchased 55.7 million shares thus far.
On a weighted average basis, that reduced our share count for the second quarter by 29 million shares.
The third and fourth quarters will reflect the full-weighted benefit of that reduction and for guidance purposes, we are projecting a diluted share count of approximately 433 million shares for each of those quarters.
We have assumed our guidance that the final traunch of approximately 7 to 12 million shares be retired on the last day of the ASR period which is at the end of the fiscal year.
As such those shares do not impact the weighted average share count for the fourth quarter or the year.
But we'll be starting next fiscal year with a diluted share count of approximately 425 million shares, which will be 15% lower than last year.
Which brings me to my final point before we open it up for Q&A, our outlook for the year.
Given our better than expected results and outlook for the remainder of the year, we have raised the bottom end of our annual guidance range.
Our current momentum and expectations for the second half indicate that our earnings will finish in the upper half of our new $3 to $3.15 guidance range.
While we are pleased with the progress and improved financial performance in the second quarter, our optimism is balanced by the fact that 70% of our earnings are still ahead of us for the year, in a volatile macro economic environment.
Given the 3.3% comps year to date and what we see ahead in both the product cycles, and in the environment, we are projecting annual comp sales near the midpoint of our 3 to 5% range.
We continue to expect more modest declines in the gross profit rate in the back half as we have now lapped China and will be lapping an intensely promotional period last year.
Additionally, we are forecasting continuing SG&A rate gains in the back half to more than offset the gross profit rate decline.
We still expect a nominal improvement in our operating income rate for the fiscal year.
We watch the same mixed signals in the environment that you do, and know that we cannot control their impact on the consumer.
But the things that we can control give us great confidence in the back half.
Record market share, rising customer satisfaction, 25 million Reward Zone members, and more new and exciting products and solutions, just to name a few.
More important, we have nearly 140,000 engaged employees that are focused on our customers and ready for this holiday shopping season.
To recap my remarks, we continue to see positive signs in our key strategic measures like market share, customer satisfaction and customer loyalty.
We are pleased with our financial momentum in Q2 and our optimism for the year has not changed.
Longer term, we are confident that our ability to adapt and meet rapidly changing customer needs will allow us to close the gap between who we are today and who we know we can be in the future.
With that, I would like to open it up for questions.
Operator
Thank you, sir.
(OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS) Our first question comes from Mitch Kaiser with Piper Jaffray.
Please go ahead.
- Analyst
Thanks, guys, good morning.
Very nice quarter.
I was hoping you could comment, I think the big surprise, at least from our perspective and I think other investors that we talked to was the margin rate improvement in home theater, and I know you mentioned execution and promotion and some other things.
But is that inclusive of services as well?
And then on the services side -- I think Sean mentioned that if you break down the biggest components on the services side that you have disclosed,and thank you for that, that warranties was the biggest part of that.
But if we go back to the filing last year, I think warranties were about 2.2% of sales and you are saying this was 6.
I was wondering if you could just reconcile the differences there?
Thank you.
- SVP, Consumer Electronics, Product Mgmt.
Mitch, good morning, thank you.
This is Mike Vitelli.
To answer your first question about home theater margins, it's yes and yes.
Home theater margins are up, as Jim mentioned with our high definition advantage program, where we're bringing installation, so services are a piece of it, audio, high definition sources, such as Direct TV and now including next generation DVD and gaming; and as well as audio.
So our home theater margins would be up without services, but that is a part of it as well.
So when we look at the entire package it's up.
It's really offering those, if you will, those variable solutions to customers.
The promotion is not a fixed package.
It lets customers make those decisions for themselves and they have been opting in to it very well.
- CFO
Hey, Mitch, it is Jim, I'll take the second part of that question.
We're glad you like the services disclosure.
The services business really as we disclosed includes a number of different things.
The 6% of sales that Sean outlined really includes our warranty business, our computing services business, our home theater business, our mobile installation business, and some of the other service elements we have.
What you referred to in our previous filings around the warranty business, the 2.2% of sales, that is just one component of that services bucket.
But just happens to be the biggest component.
- Analyst
Right.
But I think last year warranties were 2.2% of sales, right?
- CFO
Correct.
- Analyst
Okay.
But I guess do services mix up as a percent of sales in the second quarter then, given that it is 6%?
Or would you expect services to kind of be 6% inclusive of warranties for the whole year?
- CFO
It moves a little bit during the quarters, but it's roughly about 6% the entire year.
- Analyst
Okay.
I guess I'm not following how the -- well, okay.
I got you.
It's not the majority it is the biggest piece.
- CFO
That's correct.
- Analyst
Understood.
Thank you guys.
- VP, IR
Thanks, Mitch.
We list them generally in order of magnitude, not just for that, but for everything in the news release.
Thanks, Mike and Jim for that answer.
Next question, please.
Operator
Our next question comes from Bill Sims with Citigroup.
- Analyst
Thank you very much, and good morning.
- CFO
Good morning, Bill.
- Analyst
My question is on the computer business.
It appears you did a phenomenal job growing the notebook computer business, and continuing to gain market share.
However, according to NPD, it appears the industry saw a slight sequential softening from July to August this year versus years past.
Did you as well see that take place in the industry and can you comment about what we're seeing in the notebook computer business?
Has it softened a little bit in August relative to what you have seen in the previous August going in to the back to school selling season?
Thank you.
- SVP, PCP Mobility
Yes, this is Dave Morrish speaking.
I guess I would like to comment in this way--we continue to see strong growth in terms of our computing notebook share, and as I mentioned as well desktops are moving along nicely in that same environment and customers really responded to our offerings during that time frame.
I think the biggest thing, as well, as we continued to see that growth that Sean outlined in our Geek services as well.
All combined when we look at how Best Buy performed, we're really pleased in terms of how customers reacted to our offerings, and so that's -- that's how we saw it--.
- Analyst
See a pattern shift, though, Dave, between July and August?
- President, COO
We did not see a significant pattern shift at all, Brad.
I mean, really, for us it pretty well stayed the same.
There was some indications in the industry that a few players saw some softening, but for the most part it seemed to remain robust.
- VP, IR
Okay.
Our next question?
That was Dave and then Brian.
Operator
Our next question comes from Gary Balter with Credit Suisse, please go ahead.
- Analyst
Thank you.
First I just wanted to point out an irony or inconsistency in your comments.
Brian, you mentioned that rediscovered service is not a separate line item, and this is the first quarter quarter you broke it out.
- President, COO
Full of paradoxes sometimes.
- Analyst
In terms of the question -- and I could ask about dual brands et cetera, but the thing I think, as investors we're trying to balance is you put up another good quarter, you put some caution comments at the end.
How should we be thinking about your thoughts on the macro outlook and what impact that could have, and not even for this year, but also into '08?
And as part of that in the markets that housing is getting hit, Florida, California, Michigan, are you seeing big differences in those markets versus your other markets right now?
- CFO
Gary, why don't I frame that -- and you know what, I'll point to something that you just highlighted in your comments.
When we look across our business, I think, as we did last quarter, and then Brian kicked off this quarter is we look at the strategic drivers of the business, our loyalty, our customer satisfaction, our Reward Zone, I would say it's on purpose you heard many times on the call today adaptability.
And maybe a frame to think about when we look across the U.S.
and I'll just pick Detroit.
Detroit in the quarter was up over 5%.
And Detroit shouldn't be up over 5%, but it's also one of our leading CSI markets.
So what we're learning is that when we actually get it right with the customer, you can navigate an environment if you keep your head up and adapt.
So when I look at the results -- and this is what you heard from us last quarter, is that we weren't thrilled with the financial results, but we had a sense of satisfaction with the strategic results.
And that's what we saw play through.
It just so happened that this quarter that the strategic results, the financial results, in places like Detroit, Michigan made a difference.
- Analyst
In customer satisfaction.
- SVP, PCP Mobility
Yes, satisfaction index.
So we're learning every day, and we're teaching every day as we pay more tension to metrics beyond the financial metrics and make the adaption, it's showing up in the financial results that we're seeing in the business.
- VP, IR
Thank you, Darren and Dave for that clarification.
Next question, please?
Operator
Our next question comes from Brian Nagel with UBS, please go ahead.
- Analyst
Hi, good morning.
A couple of questions, you -- in your press release and in your comments you talked about market share gains.
If you could just talk a little further about the rate in which you think you gained market share here in Q2 versus Q1 then maybe more specifically some of the product categories where you think you had particularly strong gains?
Thanks.
- SVP, PCP Mobility
Well, in the -- as we talked about in the calls prior, we have been picking up market share for -- over the last 12 months in a pretty significant way across most of our categories.
And really it has been since we have really combined our -- our strong strength in hardware with our services as we talked about earlier.
So with the HD advantage program last September through Super Bowl and up until this year, we have seen significant gains in -- across the portfolio of products in home theater.
And then beginning in February, with our overt effort to connect Geek Squad services and hardware, we have seen an acceleration in the PC business as well.
Again, across all of the components of what we consider the PC business.
Desktops, notebooks, peripherals, software, et cetera.
And on top of that, because we are combining it, our services business is picking up market share as well.
So it's across the board, and it's more significant than we had seen prior to about 12 months ago.
- VP, IR
And new stores?
- SVP, PCP Mobility
And new stores -- we're always opening up new stores, so that's always contributing.
Our percent of new stores to our total though, is less than it has been historically.
So it really is more of the core business that is gaining market share than it is new-store related.
- CEO, International, Chief Information Officer
Brian, this is Bob.
In addition to what you have heard Dave and company talked about in terms of computing, we have also done incredibly well in gaming and also in digital imaging.
Those areas -- we're investing heavily in them, and they are really working very well for us.
And so the across-the board picture is absolutely the right one.
- VP, IR
Thanks, Brian, for the question and Dave and Bob for the answer.
Next question, please.
Operator
Our next question comes from Matthew Fassler with Goldman Sachs, please go ahead.
- Analyst
Thanks a lot.
Good morning.
- President, COO
Good morning, Matt.
- Analyst
I would like to dig a little bit deeper into the home theater margin dynamic.
Can you think about where the supply chain is?
And your interaction with the supply chain at this point -- at this point of the year versus where it was, say, a year ago, which I believe was the time that the supply chains started to see some negative fallout?
And if you could put the second quarter home theater gross margin performance in context with how that should help us think about the second half?
- SVP, Consumer Electronics, Product Mgmt.
Thanks, Matthew.
This is Mike Vitelli again.
When I look at last year, there was one thing that was definitely evident was a growing increase in flat panel availability, and we all started to notice that in the industry.
The opposite is actually true now, particularly in smaller screen sizes.
As my colleague Dave had tremendous success in notebooks, a lot of the manufacturers shifted some of their smaller screen size production to notebook and monitor panels, so that now 32-inch and below are actually in tight supply, which is a positive in the sense of as far as pricing is concerned.
Larger screen sizes are marketing into the marketplace, and I think that's where we're seeing the biggest increase in availability and in price declines right now.
Those categories are starting to become more affordable.
So as I look out into the second half, I see a little more stability in the availability versus the demand, and hopefully that will translate itself into a more positive third quarter activity?
- VP, IR
Thank you next question, please?
- Analyst
That would be third quarter -- our third quarter which would correlate with part of the calendar.
Right.
Right.
Calendar fourth quarter.
- VP, IR
Next question, please?
Operator
My apologies.
Our next question comes from [Mike Fox] with [Alex Brown] Investment Management.
- Analyst
Hi, guys I just have a question on how much cash was actually used to buy back stock in the quarter, was it the full 3 billion or something less than that?
- President, COO
Full 3 billion.
- Analyst
So if I do the basic math it looks like you paid about 52, $53 a share.
And just, if that's accurate -- how do you juxtapose that, I guess it was an agreement you have with Goldman Sachs, but how do you juxtapose that relative to the stock that never really traded at that level in the entire quarter?
- VP-Fin.
Good morning.
This is Ryan Robinson.
The way the math works on that is we only received a partial delivery of the shares underneath that agreement.
So it's inaccurate just to take the number of shares divided by the dollar amount.
Because there will be a supplemental delivery at the back end of the contract.
The number of shares under that supplemental delivery is in the range that we talked about.
It would depend on the market price, but we would estimate it somewhere between 7 and 12 million shares.
- Analyst
So when all is said and done, what do you think the average cost that you would have paid for the shares to be?
- VP-Fin.
It would approximate the volume-weighted average price during the contract period, which runs from mid-July through the end of the fiscal year.
- Analyst
So it should be somewhere, let's say in the low to mid-40s, given that the preponderance of the shares have already been purchased?
- VP-Fin.
Certainly.
What we don't know is what the price is going to be between now and the end of February.
- Analyst
Right.
Okay.
Thanks.
- VP, IR
Thanks for the question.
Next question, please?
Operator
Our next question comes from Scot Ciccarelli with RBC Capital Markets.
- Analyst
Hey, guys how are you?
I had a question just on the vending side.
You guys have spent a lot of money and to use the term invested in force, but invested a lot of money in different parts of your business, but with the SG&A performance that we had in this quarter, should we read anything into that regarding future spending plans or expectations?
I know there tends to be some lumpiness in it.
But just in general in terms of what the outlook is on investment spending.
Are we starting to kind of reap some of the fruits of the previous spending?
Just kind of give us the framework, if you would.
Thanks.
- CFO
Yes.
Scot it is Jim.
I hope two things are true.
One is that we never stop investment spending in our growth options, and two, we are clearly gaining some of the benefits in our business and our expense model from previous expenditures.
Most notably, the comment that we talked about this morning, the performance in our Canadian business after initial years of infrastructure investment to see that type of leverage in that business is truly impressive.
Sean also talked about how our service business has grown after a number of years in investment spending behind that.
So those are two real-life examples showing up in our numbers today of leverage we're getting from previous investments.
When we saw the results in our first quarter, conventional wisdom may have said to start to dial back in our investments, we absolutely did not do that, as a matter of fact we pushed forward.
We opened up more new stores in the first half of this year, almost 70% more than we did last year.
We continue to see that as a strong growth vehicle and we certainly look for options to continue to improve our expense structure going forward.
We're not moderating the expense lever based on just the current environment we're in, we're really continuing to push forward on our growth options, because we think that's the longer-term answer, that makes our business model work and we'll deliver those consistent shareholder returns going forward.
- VP, IR
Thank you, Jim.
Next question, please.
Operator
Our next question comes from Danielle Fox with Merrill Lynch.
Please go ahead.
- Analyst
Thank you.
Can you talk a little bit more about what you expect to be different this year versus last in the promotional environment for Christmas?
It sounds like you are expecting a more benign environment, and I'm wondering why that is?
And if you could also just comment on the costs associated with some of your credit promotions and how those have maybe changed?
Thank you.
- CFO
Danielle, it is Jim again, as we look at the back half of this year, consistent with what we said on the last call, we know that we're lapping a dramatically more promotional environment than we experienced last year.
And our confidence in that is around the performance for this year is really predicated on what we have heard in the marketplace from the different constituents, being our vendors and our customers around the experience they had in the back half of last year.
Our -- our intelligence tells us that we're going to have a more rational promotional environment.
I think that it has played out in our numbers to date, certainly in our margins within the second quarter demonstrate that, and we have a long way to go in the back half of the year, but it's really that collective intelligence we have in the external marketplace that has given us that view.
The other things that we look at is the competitive environment around the storefronts that are out in the back half of the year has changed year-over-year.
We have fewer competitors like Comp USA, we have Tweeter who has got, obviously fewer stores than they had last year, so there is less retail square footage in the space that we were selling products that allows us to really accelerate for the customer.
I think -- we also spoke on the call about our continued relationship and expansion of our strategic relationship with HSBC in that we're really using that relationship to improve our loyalty programs internally which is having a positive impact on our ability to provide customers with attractive financial offers to buy some of the larger ticket items in our portfolio.
So we continue to be very happy with that relationship, and really believe that that's bringing a competitive advantage in the marketplace for us.
- SVP, PCP Mobility
I would also add that in the PC business last year in the back half, there was a fair amount of angst around the transition of the XP operating system.
A number of products were cleared out early by some competitors.
It led to a rush at the end of the cycle.
And this year it is a much rational cycle in the PC business.
And Vista has also provided some level of stability in terms of with its features and benefits more customers are trading up in that space to enjoy those features and benefits.
So again, slightly higher prices in terms of PCs overall, compared to last year and particularly with regards to the transition costs that were experienced last year.
- VP, IR
Thank you, that was Jim and Dave Morrish.
Next, question, please.
Operator
Our next question comes from [Jonathan Kramer] with Cowen and Company.
- Analyst
Given your outperformance in the international group this quarter, just your expectations for where the growth is going to come for the remainder of the year between domestic and international?
And what are some of the key drivers in the Canadian business?
- VP, IR
Bob, would you like to?
- CEO, International, Chief Information Officer
Are you talking about the balance, or?
- CFO
Bob, I'll be happy to talk about the balance of the domestic business if you want to just frame the immediate performance for the back half of the year.
- CEO, International, Chief Information Officer
I think -- first of all, I would like to say it's more of the same.
We've -- we're on a track.
We have been on a track now for a good 12, 18 months.
And the focus is not changing.
There is -- we made some great inroads, but there is still a long way to go.
We are still early into the journey and as we said we look to 5% next year and beyond that I'm not going to say any more.
Otherwise I'll get--.
- Analyst
5% margins?
- CEO, International, Chief Information Officer
5% operating margins
- Analyst
Yes.
- CEO, International, Chief Information Officer
So I think it's more of the same in Canada and more of the same in China.
We're starting to really learn now what works and what doesn't work in China.
We have learned a great deal from the consumer research.
We have seen some success, we've also seen what doesn't work.
And we're now starting to turn those things into a model store in Five Star and we're also looking to open new Best Buy stores in the first half of next year, now that we've really understood.
But it's more of the same.
I don't want to say it's different, because it isn't.
- CFO
Jonathan, allow me to just round out the enterprise view.
I would tell you that as we looked at our estimates for the second quarter, I don't think we -- I know we didn't write down a 16 comp for Canada in the second quarter.
Based on the even more difficult comparisons they had in the second quarter.
So to Bob's point we continue to look at the robust growth of it, we'll be lapping some more difficult comps in the back half of the year in Canada.
In the U.S.
business we have actually got a number of very exciting product cycles than are different than last year.
We have a gaming cycle that essentially launched in Q3 of last year with very limited availability of product.
Our employees are telling us that there is strong customer demand in those spaces yet, and we're looking forward to having much more product available to meet nose needs for our customers.
We're also looking at, as Dave mentioned on the call, just a large number of computer solutions including Apple in the assortment that we didn't have last year in our portfolio, which will be a strength in our product mix.
Also with the Apple announcement around the new iPods and the new solutions they brought to the music space generates another level of customer excitement.
And not be forgotten in the mix, certainly is -- we believe we have a much stronger new release schedule in the DVD business, based on the strength of the box office performers early in the year.
If I couple all of that with the great progress we're making in services and Mike Vitelli's comments around the availability of product and the new improvements we have made to the high definition advantage solution, we really feel good about the things that we control in the product cycles, the solutions to the back half of the year.
The $64,000 question that you know is how is the macro environment going to either plus that up or actually detract from that in the consumers mind in the back half of the year.
- SVP, Consumer Electronics, Product Mgmt.
Yes.
I think Jonathan, can you do -- the frame we absolutely want to leave you with long term though, is that you shouldn't miss the point about making our international investments, so we didn't talk about China.
Longer term we see $100 billion market.
Services we see a $50 billion market.
And Best Buy for business we see an $80 billion market.
And you know what, in Detroit we saw a 5 comp.
And so what you should take away from that is that we see growth throughout all parts of our enterprise.
And the one I would focus us on again is I'm wowed we did a 5 comp in Detroit.
I think that is a microcosm of the opportunity that we have.
We have to continue to push out into these other places to diversify our portfolio.
Longer term I think it is going to be the combination of the diversity of the portfolio, and the growth that we're seeing inherent in our core business by getting back in and figuring out in difficult times how you can do a 5 comp in Detroit.
- VP, IR
Thank you.
We'll take our last question, please.
Operator
Our final question comes from Coralie Witter with [Marisco] Capital Management, please go ahead.
- Analyst
Hi, thank you.
I have two questions.
The first question is on Apple.
Can you elaborate a little bit more why you are starting to see some success right now?
Is it really due to the presence of Apple employees in the stores?
And can you talk about the mix of products that are being sold?
And the second question I'll follow-up with is on appliances.
- SVP, PCP Mobility
To begin with, I guess there's -- there's a number different reasons you could -- you could look at the success we're enjoying.
First of all, I think we established a very good brand presence for Apple in our store.
We worked very closely with Apple to make sure that we lived up to their brand expectations, but at the same time you ask the question around having their employees in our store and our employees in our store, and I think we're very pleasantly surprised that there's joint learning going on between our -- our employees and their employees, and I think the overall level that we're able to generate in terms of customer satisfaction with the Apple brand between both sets of employees has improved significantly, and the spill-over into even regular Microsoft PCs has been exciting.
So we're enjoying growth on both sides of that.
- Analyst
Are you seeing a lot of the strength on the Apple side in the Mac side or on the music side?
- SVP, PCP Mobility
I'll let (inaudible) comment on the -- on the -- iPod side.
But with regards to iMac we're seeing significant improvement in terms of sales levels.
Even in many stores above what is being experienced in the Apple stores.
I'm really, really happy with the number of products we're putting out the door.
And as well, it has been all incremental in those particular stores.
So pretty exciting results.
- SVP, Entertainment
On the Apple side and the music, and I'd actually call it music and video space.
Apples continues to introduce some exciting products that really makes people get access to bringing their music and now with their new nano video screen, the ability to take your video everywhere.
We're seeing a ton of excitement from consumers around those products, and they love coming to Best Buy to see the full solution of how they might bring those things together.
So we have seen -- we have got some nice inventory of that, and see a huge upside for consumers in that space.
- Analyst
Okay.
Thanks.
- CEO, International, Chief Information Officer
Coralie, this is Bob Willett again, this is also working well for us in Canada and in China, and looking at things through the lens of the customer and applying the customer segmentation data in Shanghai, we have actually got a very large Apple store inside our store, and we have seen spectacular results.
And I don't want to disclose the share that we've got of Apple's business in Shanghai, but let's just say it's pretty big.
In Canada Apple is also accounting for a large proportion of our business.
And it's looking at -- what it is that customers really want as opposed to what we think they want, is taking the data, the customer analytics and really applying it to space allocation in a way in which we create the shopping experience.
There's no question it is working well for us.
If the Canadian team were here they would tell you how well it has really worked for us.
As a result of that we're getting great investment and cooperation with Apple to build it out.
- SVP, PCP Mobility
Just one thing.
Sorry, Jen.
I would add just one thing.
Apple is a very vivid example.
We have a number of our vendor partners making some really good moves around being -- working with us and being customer focused and delivering value propositions that matter to our customer.
Apple is just a particularly vivid example at this moment.
- Analyst
That's helpful.
Thanks.
Second question I had was on appliances, which the whole market is down.
Your comps are down, 7 on top of down 2 last year.
Can you talk about how promotional that category is?
What the trends were like intraquarter, and the competitive environment?
- SVP, Consumer Electronics, Product Mgmt.
This is Mike Vitelli again.
Thanks for asking about appliances because we think that's one of the spaces where we have made some really positive progress even in this down market.
It is one of the spaces where our customer satisfaction index with the employees in that department is the highest in the Company.
We gained share in that down market.
Part of the decline was also a pretty significant decline versus last year in air conditioning.
So we actually saw some positive signs in other areas.
But I think we're in a great position, both because we have a relatively modest share in the space.
We have made some significant improvements in the products that we have, and the customers that we have, that when that market starts to come back on a macro level, we'll continue to gain share there.
Competitively, I think everybody is looking at the space and saying you are not going to be able to buy share in a time like this because it's -- and people are, I think, acting accordingly.
- Director, IR
Thanks, Mike?
With that we're going to conclude our call.
On the previous question, just so all knows, it was Dave Morrish, Julie Owens, Senior Vice President of Entertainment and Bob Willett.
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