超微半導體 (AMD) 2014 Q3 法說會逐字稿

Good day, ladies and gentlemen.

Thank you for standing by and welcome to the AMD third-quarter 2014 earnings conference call.

(Operator Instructions)

As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded.

I'd now like to turn the conference to our host, (technical difficulty).

Ma'am, you may begin.

Thank you and welcome to AMD's third-quarter earnings conference call.

By now, you should have had the opportunity to review a copy of our earnings release and the CFO commentary and slides.

If you have not reviewed these documents, they can be found on AMD's website at ir.

AMD.com.

Participants on today's call are Lisa Su, our President and Chief Executive, and Devinder Kumar, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

This is a live call and will be replayed via webcast on AMD.com.

I'd like to take this opportunity before the call begins to highlight several dates for you.

Matt Skinner, our Corporate Vice President and General Manager of the Graphics Business Unit, will present at the UBS Technology Conference on November 18 in California.

Devinder Kumar will present at the Credit Suisse Technology Conference on December 3 in Arizona and at the Raymond James IT Supply Chain Conference on December 8 in New York.

Mark Papermaster, our Senior Vice President and Chief Technology Officer will present at the Barclays Global Technology, Media, and Telecommunications Conference on December 8 in San Francisco.

Our fourth-quarter quiet time will begin at the close of business on Friday, December 12.

Lastly, we expect to announce our fourth-quarter earnings results on January 20, 2015.

Please note that we are now reporting two new financial segments, beginning the third quarter: Computing and Graphics segment primarily includes desktop and notebook processors and chipsets, discrete GPUs, and professional graphics; and the Enterprise, Embedded, and Semi-Custom segment primarily includes server and embed processors, dense servers, semi-custom SoC products, engineering service, and royalties.

Additionally note that non-GAAP financial measures referenced during this call are reconciled to most directly comparable GAAP financial measures in the press release and CFO commentary, which are posted on our website at quarterlyearnings.AMD.com.

Before we begin, let me remind everyone that today's discussion contains forward-looking statements based on the environment as we currently see it.

Those statements are based on current beliefs, assumptions, and expectations, speak only as of the current date, and as such, involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations.

Please refer to the cautionary statements in today's earning press release and CFO commentary for more information.

You'll also find detailed discussions about our risk factors in our filings with the SEC, and in particular, AMD's quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the quarter ended June 28, 2014.

Now with that, I'd like to hand the call over to Lisa.

Lisa?

Thank you, Ruth, and good afternoon to all those listening in today.

I'm pleased to be here on my first earnings call as CEO.

In addition to covering our quarterly results, I also want to use this opportunity to provide some details on my initial priorities and the steps we are taking to continue transforming and strengthening AMD.

Our third-quarter results highlight the progress we have made in diversifying our business as we delivered our fifth straight quarter of non-GAAP profitability.

While our Enterprise, Embedded, and Semi-Custom segment had a strong quarter, we did face some challenges in our Computing and Graphics business due to ongoing weaknesses in consumer PC market.

We know what we need to do to improve performance going forward and are taking the appropriate actions.

Let me give you some more color on each of the segments.

Our Enterprise, Embedded, and Semi-Custom segment delivered sequential and year-over-year revenue in operating profit improvement.

We had strong embedded processor revenue growth and secured multiple new design wins across our priority markets.

For instance, Arista, a leader in software-driven cloud networking, began ramping production of new switches powered by our embedded G-Series SoC.

Our customers also began ramping a number of new retail and educational digital signage wins in the third quarter.

We also started sampling our first embedded ARM SoC in the quarter and at ARM's TechCon conference, we demo'd the industry's first ever 64-bit ARM-powered Network Function Virtualization solution.

The demo won Best in Show Software Product and is a great example of how our leadership ARM and x86 offerings are generating increased interest from telecom and networking customers.

Our work to lead the industry's transition to 64-bit ARM servers also gained momentum in the quarter.

After [seeding] Opteron A-series development kits with key ecosystem partners earlier this year, we expanded availability to software developers and system integrators.

We continue building out the 64-bit ARM server ecosystem in advance of system launches expected next year.

This quarter, we also had public demonstrations of community versions of Red Hat's Fedora and SUSE's openSUSE 64-bit ARM Linux operating systems, running Oracle JDK and enterprise-class Java platform on our upcoming Opteron A-Series SoC.

Based on the widespread availability and silicon status of our Seattle development boards, we are also seeing a number of our partners and customers using the AMD platform as their lead ARM 64 development vehicle.

The highlight of our quarter was in our strong Semi-Custom business, where we shipped a record number of units for our game console customers.

Q3 will be our peak unit shipment quarter for the year, as Microsoft and Sony prepare for the holiday season.

And relative to our new semi-custom design win pipeline, I am very pleased to announce that we have secured two new wins, accomplishing our goal to close 1 to 2 new semi-custom wins this year.

These new semi-custom SoCs are expected to deliver a combined total lifetime revenue of approximately $1 billion over approximately three years.

Design work for these opportunities has started and we anticipate first Silicon revenue in 2016.

Although I can't go into details on the customers or the specific products, it is important to note that we are diversifying our Semi-Custom business beyond gaming.

These wins also mark another significant milestone for us, as one of the wins is our first 64-bit ARM-based semi-custom design, building on or growing ARM 64 momentum in the embedded and server markets.

Our Semi-Custom design win pipeline remains strong and we continue to have good opportunities to deliver future growth for this important part of our Business.

Now, turning to our Computing and Graphics segment.

The Computing and Graphics business remains very important to us and is an evolving area of the Company where we have started a substantial amount of work to transform and strengthen this business.

Earlier this year, we laid out several important objectives to improve the financial performance of this segment.

These include expanding in the commercial client market, improving our mix in consumer notebooks, gaining share in professional graphics, and increasing component and AIB channel sales.

We've met our goal to double our commercial client design wins from last year and are pleased with the initial progress we are making to build a richer mix in our PC business.

New commercial client offerings from Dell, HP, and Lenovo have started ramping, resulting in approximately a 50% increase in our commercial APU shipments from the second quarter.

We also improved our notebook APU mix in the quarter, as our Kaveri processors ramped in mobile design wins and our higher-end mobile processor unit shipments increased nearly 50% from the second quarter.

Mobile discrete GPU unit shipments also increased from the second quarter, as new design wins entered production.

And earlier today, Apple announced a number of new iMacs powered by our Radeon GPUs.

Included in the wins is the new 27-inch iMac with 5K Retina resolution, which highlights the ongoing move to higher resolution displays.

This trend plays well to our strengths in discrete GPUs.

And in the professional graphics market, we believe this remains an area where we see the opportunity for ongoing growth.

In the third quarter, channel sales increased sequentially and we secured several new design wins with Dell and HP that will reach market early next year.

Now turning to the desktop processor and graphics performance in the quarter, although we increased overall desktop processor unit shipments from the previous quarter, our performance in the component and graphics channel was weak.

We saw sell-out momentum slow, particularly in China, and believe there was some downstream inventory build in the quarter causing our distributors to be more cautious managing their inventories.

We are committed to these markets and have started taking actions in conjunction with our channel partners to improve sell-through in the coming quarters.

Now let me turn to some of my initial priorities and our strategic actions.

As I said on our call last week, the strategy we outlined two years ago remains the right one for AMD.

But to strengthen AMD and better position us for success, we must take some targeted restructuring actions to align our investments and resources with our highest priority opportunities.

These actions are not about how we manage the Business in the short-term, but about how we reengineer the Company for the long-term and position both of our Computing and Graphics and Enterprise, Embedded, and Semi-Custom segments for profitability and growth.

As part of the plan, you will see us continue to invest in the talent and skills required to develop our world-class technologies and products, as well as add new skills in areas like software and application engineering that will help us drive into new markets.

While we will protect our engineering investments, we will also take the opportunity to streamline parts of the organization to better align them with our highest priority opportunities.

Reducing headcount is never easy, but these actions will enable us to become a stronger and more nimble company.

In summary, as I step into the role of CEO, I firmly believe we are one of the few companies with the market position and capabilities to deliver world-class technologies and great products that will lead the industry forward.

My near-term priorities are very clear.

First and foremost, we will focus our energy on delivering great products.

We will also ensure that we continue to deepen our customer relationships and continue to simplify and streamline our organization.

We have a unique opportunity in front of us and I'm very much looking forward to the future.

Now I'd like to turn the call over to Devinder to provide some additional color on our third-quarter financial performance, fourth-quarter guidance, and details of our transformation plan.

Devinder?

Thank you, Lisa, and good afternoon to all those listening in today.

We continued to make progress on our strategic transformation and delivered non-GAAP profitability for the fifth straight quarter, despite a weak consumer PC environment.

We managed operating expense, reduced inventory, and shipped record quarterly semi-custom SoCs.

Now let me cover the specifics of the third quarter.

Revenue was $1.43 billion, flat sequentially and down 2% year over year, primarily driven by lower chipset and GPU sales, partially offset by increased sales of semi-custom SoCs.

Third-quarter revenue included $27 million related to the licensing of technology.

Gross margin was 35%, flat from the prior quarter, and included $27 million, or a 2% benefit, from revenue related to licensing technology.

Non-GAAP operating expenses in the third quarter were $428 million, down $3 million from the prior quarter.

For the fifth quarter in a row, non-GAAP operating expense to revenue ratio was 30% or better.

Non-GAAP operating income was $66 million and non-GAAP net income was $20 million, with non-GAAP earnings per share of $0.03 calculated using 785 million diluted shares.

Third-quarter non-GAAP earnings per share excludes amortization of acquired intangible assets of $3 million.

Interest expense, taxes, and other expenses were $46 million in the quarter.

During the quarter, AMD entered into interest rate swap transactions.

These transactions effectively converted $250 million of AMD's fixed rate 6.75% Senior Note due 2019 to a variable interest rate.

Based on current interest rates, we anticipate quarterly interest savings from these transactions to be approximately $1 million beginning in the fourth quarter of 2014.

The remaining $250 million portion of AMD's 6.75% 2019 debt, as well as all other term debt on the balance sheet, has a weighted average fixed interest rate of 7.1%.

Adjusted EBITDA was $133 million, down $4 million from the prior quarter, and for the trailing four quarters, adjusted EBITDA was $574 million.

Now turning to the business segments, Computing and Graphics revenue was $781 million, down 6% sequentially, primarily due to lower chipset and GPU sales.

Computing and Graphics operating loss was $17 million compared to a $6 million loss in the prior quarter.

This was driven primarily by lower revenue.

Enterprise, Embedded, and Semi-Custom revenue was $648 million, up $35 million, or 6%, from the prior quarter, primarily due to an increase in sales of our semi-custom SoCs.

Operating income was $108 million, up from $97 million in the prior quarter, primarily driven by higher sales of our semi-custom SoCs.

Turning to the balance sheet, our cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities balance totaled $938 million at the end of the quarter, essentially flat from the prior quarter.

Inventory was $897 million, down $63 million, or 7%, from the prior quarter.

We remain focused on maintaining appropriate levels of inventory and plan to manage inventory levels down again in the fourth quarter.

Debt as of the end of the quarter was $2.2 billion.

Accounts payable at the end of the third quarter was $498 million, down slightly from $511 million in the second quarter.

We had negative free cash flow of $11 million in Q3 2014, an improvement of $40 million from the prior quarter.

As Lisa stated in her opening remarks, we are working to build a stronger and diversified Company as we continue our strategic transformation.

We are ensuring we have the right resources deployed, in concert with the evolution of our business model, as we right-size and strengthen our Computing and Graphics segment resources in line with the market realities of today, and further invest in our Enterprise, Embedded, and Semi-Custom segment, focused on our growth opportunities.

To that end, we are taking actions and implementing operational efficiencies, while also reducing headcount and further streamlining our global real estate assets.

We expect to reduce our workforce by approximately 7%, with the majority of actions completed by the end of the fourth quarter.

We anticipate aligning of our real estate footprint starting in the fourth quarter and continuing into the first half of 2015.

Associated with these actions, we expect to record restructuring and impairment charges of approximately $57 million in the fourth quarter of 2014, consisting primarily of severance-related charges and approximately $13 million in the first half of 2015, primarily related to real estate actions.

We expect to make cash payments of approximately $34 million in the fourth quarter of 2014 and approximately $20 million in the first half of 2015 associated with these actions.

Based on these actions, we anticipate operational savings, primarily in operating expenses, of approximately $9 million in the fourth quarter of 2014 and approximately $85 million in 2015.

Now turning to the outlook and guidance for the fourth quarter of 2014.

AMD expects revenue to decrease 13% sequentially, plus or minus 3%, due to lower semi-custom revenue and the weak consumer PC environment.

Gross margin is expected to be approximately 35%.

Non-GAAP operating expenses are expected to be approximately $385 million, below our prior 2014 quarterly operating expense guidance range of approximately $420 million to $450 million, in line with expected revenue and savings from our restructuring and transformation initiatives.

Interest expense and other to be approximately $46 million.

Inventory is expected to decrease from third-quarter levels.

And finally, free cash flow is expected to be positive in the fourth quarter, and for the full year 2014, negative in the range of $200 million to $250 million, including the impact of the $200 million special payment to GLOBALFOUNDRIES earlier this year.

In summary, while there's more work to be done as we continue our transformation journey, we are positioning AMD to execute our current set of strategic transformation priorities, while focusing on sustainability profitability and driving enhanced returns for our shareholders.

With that, I'll turn it back to Ruth.

Ruth?

Thank you, Devinder.

Operator, we'd be happy for you to poll the audience for questions, please.

(Operator Instructions)

And our first question comes from Vivek Arya from Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Please go ahead.

Thank you for taking my question and, Lisa, congratulations and good luck in your new role.

My question is on the restructuring that you're doing, which areas will you deprioritize given this restructuring?

Do you think you can afford to focus on the same number of markets or is it time to narrow the focus?

Thank you, Vivek, for the question and for the kind thoughts.

Relative to the restructuring, we have been looking at all of our markets across the Company and all of the things that we do, both from an engineering side and a go-to-market side.

From this standpoint, we are very much protecting the key engineering skills and the key engineering investments, but as we look across our businesses and as we diversify from being a pure PC Company into a much more diversified business, we found opportunities to streamline, particularly on the Computing and Graphics side, as we look at our go-to-market and our infrastructure around that.

So as always, it's difficult to take these actions, but these will certainly be important steps to help us simplify and operate more efficiently.

Got it.

As a follow-up, I understand the semi-custom win should start helping you in 2016, and maybe it's a little early to talk about 2015, but I'm just curious that if the semi-custom only helps from 2016, what happens in 2015 as you continue to see a somewhat sluggish PC and graphics market?

How do you plan to manage the Business in that time frame?

And maybe as part B of that question for Devinder, are there any implications, if the market -- PC and graphics market stays the way it is, are there any implication on your wafer supply agreement with GLOBALFOUNDRIES?

Thank you.

Let me take the first part of that, Vivek, and Devinder will take the second part.

Relative to how we're managing the Business, certainly if you look at it, we've been very focused on improving the operational performance of the Business.

We've made strong progress in 2014 and we will continue to do that in the coming years.

In terms of the markets that we're in, the semi-custom wins are exciting and important for us, that they're part of our long-term growth strategy.

We also have growth that we highlighted in embedded and professional graphics and some of our other growth markets.

And in the traditional PC market, the key areas for us are really changing the mix of the product and focusing on the places where we're more differentiated.

So commercial is an early start for us and we're starting from a low base, but we have seen progress there and we expect that into 2015, as well, as well as some of the work that we're doing in the graphics space, like you saw with the Apple win today.

So again, from an overall market standpoint, we know where to focus, and we're going to continue focusing on those areas that play to our differentiation.

Vivek, good question on the Business.

What you have seen, even over the last couple of years, as we had the difficulties in the 2012 time frame, that we have shown the ability to manage the Business in line with revenue, to manage the operating expenses, focus on the areas that Lisa talked about as priorities and continue to diversify our revenue.

But at the same time, making sure that we protect our investments in the core IP and technologies, which is really going to fuel the future growth and long-term profitability of the Company.

Your question on GLOBALFOUNDRIES and whether from an inventory standpoint, we are on track, we are very much on track as we end the third quarter here.

And as I said in the prepared remarks, we'll be on track to meet those obligations.

Inventory is down Q2 to Q3 and I expect it to be down in Q4, despite lower revenue between Q3 and Q4.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Mark Lipacis from Jefferies.

Please go ahead.

Thanks for taking my question.

Devinder, maybe for you, when you -- a couple of the income statement questions, the 13% decline that you expect for next quarter, do -- you mentioned computing and the embedded business both declining.

Is that split evenly between the two?

Is it both businesses you expect to decline about that much or will it be weighted one or the other?

And when you look at your OpEx savings you expect of $85 million next year, is that $21 million a quarter, or does that ramp through the year and you exit the year something higher than that?

Yes.

The first question, if you ask me overall from a viewpoint on the decline of 13%, given the peak quarter that we had in semi-custom is weighted toward the semi-custom, so as you look at our segment reporting, which has changed effective this quarter, Computing and Graphics and the Embedded, Enterprise, and Semi-Custom, I would say that the decline quarter-on-quarter is more weighted toward the EESC segment as opposed to Computing and Graphics.

Okay, that's--

As far as the OpEx is concerned, I can share with you Q4.

I'll tell you that in Q4, as you look at Q3 to Q4, the decline in OpEx is about $40 million-plus.

Some of it comes from the transformation initiatives that we've been working on.

Lisa talked about simplification of our structures within the Company getting close to the customer.

We also have actions that we took today and that's going to save about $9 million in the quarter.

We had some product tape-outs in Q3 that don't repeat in Q4.

That's some savings.

And overall, we've been very focused on managing the OpEx in line with our revenue expectations and revenue profile, and that is where the rest of the savings are coming from.

So the--

You tried to get -- sorry, Mark -- you tries to get into 2015 and maybe you asked a question about that, but I'm not prepared to get into the 2015 discussion at that point.

We can have a little bit more of a discussion about 2015 when we come to the Q4 earnings call in January.

Okay.

Fair enough.

If I may, one more on the Computing side.

In 2013 the Computing business was running around $900 million a quarter and this year it was $800 million a quarter.

It's running lower than that exiting this year.

Given, Lisa, that you seem to be streamlining more on the Computing side, should we think about this business as being an ex-growth business or a low double-digit growth -- or I'm sorry, low single-digit growth or low single-digit decline business?

Thank you.

Mark, to your question on the Computing and Graphics segment, look, it's a very important business for us.

It's a little early to talk about longer-term guidance for the business.

Clearly, our goal is to strengthen it and improve its profitability, particularly in the couple of areas that I talked about earlier.

And on that, Mark, you talked about the numbers in terms of the revenue ranges in 2013 and 2014.

You're exactly right.

If you look at the details that we have provided, whereby we have not only provided the new segment information for Q3 of 2014, but also recast the historical data of Computing and Graphics on the one hand, and Enterprise, Embedded, and Semi-Custom on the other.

If you go look at the year-to-date numbers, 2013 nine months versus 2014 nine months, the revenue is down, as you observed from the $900 million-plus to the $800 million-plus, 13% down.

But the losses, there were losses in the first three quarters of 2013, it was close to $19 million and if you add up the last three quarters of 2014, it's more in the $20 million range.

So we have improved the financial performance and the action that we are taking today and the focus that we are bringing in the Computing and Graphics business is obviously focused on continuing to improve the financial performance in line with whatever revenue expectations they are.

Fair point.

Thank you, Devinder.

Our next question comes from David Wong of Wells Fargo.

Please go ahead.

Thanks very much.

Devinder, do any of the restructuring actions that you're planning bring cash into AMD?

For example, might you get any meaningful amounts of cash on real estate or other asset sales?

They might, David.

They might.

Some of the restructuring actions, as I talked in the prepared remarks, are 2015 first half, and as you can imagine, most of the assets in our case, we don't own the assets, but there are some that we own.

Those projects are in flight.

Too early to tell whether they bring in cash and how much they bring in.

But at least we quantified in terms of the first half of 2014 what the action would be of getting out of the space because we know what the obligations are, whether they are sitting on our balance sheet or the lease expenses.

So too early to tell.

As we get the 2015 time frame, because the headcount actions have to be taken before we can act on the real estate part, as you can imagine, so it will be in the 2015 time frame that I'll be able to share more detail on that.

Okay, great.

And, Lisa, you have touched on this, but just to ask the question explicitly.

Will the restructuring involve discontinuing future development of any specific product line that you know about at the moment?

David, it's really around streamlining our investments and ensuring we're on the highest growth opportunity.

So relative to discontinuing a particular product line, we are not discontinuing a particular product line at this time.

Great.

Thanks very much.

Thanks, David.

Our next question comes from Hans Mosesmann from Raymond James.

Please go ahead.

Thank you.

Lisa, can you comment about your larger competitor talking about normal seasonality going into the end of the year.

You're saying that there's significant consumer weakness.

What's driving the different view of the markets and are you just losing market share?

Sure, Hans.

The way to think about the market, because when we look at the market, there's certain segmentation.

So when we look overall, clearly the strength in the PC market has been around commercial primarily.

When we look at consumer, it's still choppy and we see -- it's weak and there's a competitive dynamic in there.

From our standpoint, we tend to have more exposure to some of the emerging geographies, particularly in the channel and so we are seeing some weakness in China, in the emerging geographies.

Relative to our MNC business or the large OEMs, that business is relatively as expected.

So it's our view -- our segmentation in the PC market is different from our competitors and if you look at normal seasonality, Q4 is usually a high sell-out quarter, but from a sell-in standpoint, it is typically a little bit down.

Okay.

And if I can follow up with one more, your competitor is, on the tablet side, has a very ambitious and aggressive strategy and they're in some cases, perhaps, giving away these chips for free in tablets.

Is that impacting, perhaps, some part of your business, maybe at the low end of the consumer PC market?

Yes, Hans.

We've discussed this a little bit before.

It is definitely true that there are some aggressive competitive dynamics, particularly in the low end.

A couple of quarters ago, we made a decision about how we're managing that.

We are certainly competing in the low end, but we are not going after business that's not profitable.

So if you look at the business, you see our ASPs up in mobile and the reason for that is we're actually making good progress at the higher end of the product stack and at the very, very low end, we're choosing not to go after bad business.

Okay.

Fair enough.

Thank you.

Thanks, Hans.

Our next question comes from JoAnne Feeney of ABR Investment Strategies.

Please go ahead.

Yes.

Thanks for taking my question.

Again, welcome, Lisa, to your first earnings call.

I was hoping you could give us a little more on the graphics business, particularly the consumer graphics business, on how that worked our for you in the third quarter and what you're seeing into the fourth, because typically the fourth is a bit seasonally stronger.

Wondering if that's what you're seeing or if the new offerings out by your competitor has given you a more cautious outlook on this quarter?

Sure, JoAnne.

Thanks for the question.

Overall in graphics, we've made progress in certain segments of the graphics market, certainly in mobile for sure, and you see that with some of our OEM wins, as well as the recent announcements.

On the AIB channel, it has been a little bit weak for us, and if you'll recall, AIB started in the first quarter very strong around cryptocurrency, and then as we went into the second quarter, and with some of the market dynamics there, it was weaker.

Relative to the competitive environment, I would agree that Q4 tends to be a stronger seasonal quarter for graphics, as we go into the holiday season.

We've certainly adjusted to some of the competitive dynamics and we have made some positioning changes, as well as some new marketing activities that you will see from us in the fourth quarter.

So does that suggest that you're looking for it to be up or it to be down, in terms of consumer graphics in the fourth quarter?

When we look overall at the CG business, we've said that it will be down.

There are certain segments in the business that will be up based on the seasonality.

Then Devinder, curious about your latest move with the interest swaps.

Obviously it's a benefit shorter-term to switch to variable interest rates for that $250 million, but it seems like you're taking a risk here, with the US economy at least improving, that interest rates will be going up.

And if I heard you correctly, you don't get a benefit from that until the end of the 2015 year.

So do you plan to be able to pay that back before that risk really becomes a concern, or are you assuming that these market interest rates will stay low for long enough for you to pay it back eventually?

Well, yes.

Thank you, JoAnne.

That's a good question.

Overall, from the way we have crafted the interest rate swap transaction, there is a benefit at the way we've set it up to the tune of about $1 million a quarter.

What you talked about, the increased interest rates from some standpoint, there is no risk there, for the life of the debt that we have on the balance sheet, for $250 million of the fixed rate that we have on the 2019.

We have recently swapped that out and there is some hedging that gets into place.

I can get into the details offline with you, to go ahead and explain to you how it works and the confidence level that we have from a viewpoint of where we sit with that particular debt transaction.

Okay.

That would be great.

And then if I could sneak in one last question, with the reorganization of the two segments, I was hoping perhaps you could give us a sense of how gross margins compare across those segments and also how, perhaps, operating expenses compare?

The Compute and Graphics segment, obviously, showing losses for most of the last eight quarters -- sorry, most of the last five quarters or six quarters.

I'm wondering whether that's attributable to a gross margin difference or if it's really the R&D expense on the C&G side that's driving that and where you think that's going go over time?

It's a combination of factors, so I am not going to provide, JoAnne, unfortunately, granularity from a gross margin at the segment level.

We do share the revenue and the operating income.

The thing that you probably know, based on the business model for the semi-custom in particular, we have been clear that that is below the Corporate average from a gross margin standpoint, but that's where you get the benefit from the NRE model of how products are designed together with the customers.

We get the funding for those products and then when we go to silicon production, there are no sales and marketing dollars.

There's a little bit of R&D on an ongoing basis and the G&A is essentially a fixed cost, so you scale the revenue, the operating margin benefits.

And that's why you've seen the results, as you observed, for the EESC segment, whereby there is profitability at the 15%, 16%, 17% of operating income level.

As far as Computing and Graphics, you are right, if you look back the last five quarters, two of the five quarters we made money and three quarters we lost money.

Revenue is down, as the previous question observed, and that's what we are doing in terms of managing for long-term profitability at the Company level and redistributing the resources and redeploying resources, potentially from one segment to another, but by the same token, managing them in line with the revenue expectations for the future.

That's helpful.

Quick follow-up to that, just wondering whether there's room in the C&G segment to make the kinds of cuts you need to make to turn that profitable, or if the competitive pressure you're under is constraining your prices so much and the demands on the research side are so much, that you're really in a difficult spot to cut those costs and raise that operating profit.

Can you speak to how you would get that done?

Yes.

I can address that and allow Lisa to address how we are -- this is very methodical.

You probably recall and maybe that's what you're referring to, a couple of years ago when the PC market went down pretty dramatically in the 2012 time frame, we did a reset restructure.

I would say, having participated in both of those at the CFO level, those were more across the board, but these are very targeted, very methodical, protecting the core technology as I talked about, and making sure that we do not in any way disrupt the future technology, and making sure that the long-term growth at the Company level is assured and protecting the technology.

Lisa, you want to comment on that?

Yes.

JoAnne, this is a really important point.

When you look at our strategy and the model that we are trying to build, it really is around developing leadership IP.

So that core CPU and graphics IP is actually used across both segments and that is very critical and it's being entirely protected in this restructuring action.

When we look specifically in the Computing and Graphics business, relative to the overall infrastructure that was built around these two businesses, the businesses are smaller than they were before, and so there is a significant opportunity to streamline how we operate, how we go to market, and just the overall infrastructure that we have.

So from an R&D standpoint, very clear that those are the most important investments and ones that will fuel long-term growth in both segments, and so those will continue.

We do believe that there's opportunity to streamline in the operational side.

Thanks for the help.

Good look.

Thanks, JoAnne.

Our next question comes from Ian Ing from MKM Partners.

Please go ahead.

Thanks a lot.

First question is in GPU inventories.

It looks like the AIBs aren't really reselling or refurbishing their returns.

Looks like they don't want to put excess product into the market.

I read the filings.

Are there any implications on price protections as the AIB modifies their inventory?

Maybe I'll start with that, Ian.

Really relative to the AIBs, we work very closely with all the channel partners.

I did mention that there was some cautiousness in the distribution channel as we were going through the third quarter.

Part of that was just the new products from both ourselves, as well as from our competitor.

We see that fourth quarter is typically a stronger quarter for the AIB channel and we would expect that the distributors will have the inventory on hand necessary for the holiday season.

There's not an excess level of price protection [is my understanding]?

There's nothing unusual.

Okay, great.

And then, Lisa, more of a high level question.

Now that you're CEO of AMD, what should we think of as your imprint on the Company?

The strategy is not changing too much?

Is it really executing to the product road plans?

Is there any senior Management you'd like to bring on board to help meet your goals?

Ian, thanks for that question.

The strategy is something that I believe very much in.

It's something that we put together as a leadership team and it really is about taking the technology assets that we have as a Company and applying them to higher growth segments.

So at a high level, that is absolutely what we're doing.

Relative to what I would like to do, I am really going to focus on the leadership products and differentiation.

That is the core of what will make us successful as a Company, as well as our deeper customer relationships and the simplification we've talked about.

There's a lot of opportunity here.

This is a multi-year transformation that we're going through, but relative to some of the technology bets that we're making, they will pay off in the next couple years.

So you'll see perhaps a little bit more focus on the technology and the products.

Okay.

Thank you so much.

Our next question comes from Christopher Rolland from FBR Capital Markets.

Please go ahead.

Hey, thanks for the question and, Lisa, congratulations again.

Looking forward to seeing your changes at AMD.

First, Fairchild -- I apologize we're in the middle of a fire drill -- Fairchild said today Microsoft really had ordered all their components ahead of 4Q that billed and that they really weren't reordering.

So APUs might be a different story here, I understand that, but are there any shadows in the story there?

Are you seeing a pretty marked decrease in billeds in 4Q?

Thanks.

Thanks for the question, Chris.

Relative to Microsoft, or actually the game console customers, our lead times are fairly long for the APUs and so we are -- we synchronize our forecasts with the customer forecasts in that time period.

We don't see anything unusual.

Our expectations for the fourth quarter are very much in line with the customer demands.

Okay, great.

And then also if we could talk about the bitcoin mining situation, you said you thought that that was going to be a one quarter event.

Basically we're wondering here, we do see some channel inventory out there, some parts on eBay and stuff like that in the grey market.

Would you say that you are still through that, or would you say that there's maybe a few more quarters to go here?

Chris, if I just take the overall channel, both the desktop and GPU channel, there's some dynamics in there.

The bitcoin or the cryptocurrency thing really started in the second quarter, flowed through the third quarter.

There were some used or secondhand cards that were out there in the market.

I would say that what we're looking at now is really working through some of the product positioning as we go into the fourth quarter.

So with most channel inventory issues, it does take a couple of quarters to work through and we are working through those, but relative to the cryptocurrency, that's lesser of a factor at this point in time.

Okay, great and thanks and congratulations again.

Thanks, Chris.

Our next question comes from Matt Ramsey of Canaccord Genuity.

Please go ahead.

Yes, thank you.

Lisa, I wanted to ask a quick question about the foundry side with 14-nanometer launching from your competitor.

You are in a position now for a period of time where some products could be a couple nodes behind.

I just want to comment on how that's affecting you when your interface with customers and partners and how you think that sets you up in the competitive position for the next several quarters until FinFET gets launched as your foundry partner?

Sure, Matt.

On the technology side, it's certainly important and we are doing active designs in FinFET, for sure.

From our product differentiation standpoint, though, if you look at the APUs, it tends to be more of an architectural statement versus a process technology statement.

So with our launch of Kaveri and the amount of compute cores that we have on Kaveri, that is something that has been attractive to the market.

As we go into our next-generation APUs in 2015, they will have added features and functions: some of our heterogeneous software architecture, as well.

So the net of it is, clearly the technology is important and we're designing in FinFETs and they are going to be an important node for us as we go forward, but there are many things that we're doing on the architectural and power management side to ensure that we provide differentiated products.

Great.

Then as the follow-up, you've talked about the gaming business being down in 4Q, which you had talked about last quarter, and the stance -- obviously it's too early to guide a lot of things for next year -- but the stance the Company had taken is as the distributing of the gaming console ramped from your partners there, that, that business should grow on a year-over-year basis next year.

Maybe you could talk to the detail that you can about what can we expect in the gaming business in seasonality in Q1 and what next year looks like on annualized basis and just the fact that the new wins that you just got are 2016 revenue?

Thanks.

Let me try to frame it in this way.

It is a little bit early to talk about 2015 revenue and units.

What I will say is that, from what we see, the game console business looks strong.

We have just had one of our partners, Microsoft, launch in China and that looked like it was successful.

Everything that we see just is shaping up to be a solid holiday season.

Relative to 2015 seasonality, it is a consumer business and so we would expect that the first half would be lower than the second half and we'll have to see how all of that shakes out through this holiday season.

Thanks very much.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Kevin Cassidy of Stifel Nicolaus.

Please go ahead.

Hi.

This is Dean Grumlose calling in for Kevin.

Thank you very much for taking my call.

Could you comment on your traction in professional and server GPU markets?

Sure.

The professional graphics market is important to us.

In this quarter, we've certainly improved in the channel.

We had some quarter-over-quarter growth in the channel in professional graphics, as well as some new design wins from several of the large OEMs.

In general, professional graphics is a longer sell cycle than some of the consumer graphics, and so we're spending quite a bit of effort in both business development and software and ISV development to ensure that we grow that business on a go-forward basis.

As a follow-up, going forward what do you view as your key differentiating advantages in the various GPU markets?

Again, on the graphic side, it is about graphics, performance, performance per watt, and compute capability.

So there is certainly a competitive market, but from our standpoint, we have very competitive products, and as in professional graphics, the ISV certifications are quite important.

It's really about the investments in those ISV certifications.

Thank you very much.

Our next question comes from Srini Pajjuri from CLSA.

Please go ahead.

Thank you.

Lisa, just wondering, the game console business, as we look into the next year, when do your prices typically get reset and also are you expecting any process node transitions in 2015?

And in general, I'm just trying to understand how I should think about the overall profitability versus this year, assuming that units are relatively flat?

Sure.

The ASPs that we negotiate with the customers are negotiated in advance, so they are certainly booked into our business model.

There are ASP declines year-on-year and then relative -- I'm sorry, you said relative to operating profits?

We will, of course, work very, very hard on ensuring that we get the cost reductions relative to the ASP reductions, as well.

So from an overall game console business, we view it as a very strong business for us.

And are you expecting any process node migrations into the business?

There will be process node migrations and we'll talk about them at the appropriate time.

Okay, great.

And then you mentioned the two new design wins that are expected to ramp some time in 2016.

Is there a way to think about the overall opportunity relative to what you're getting from the semi-custom business today?

The two new semi-custom design wins that we talked about, relative opportunity around $1 billion over a three-year lifetime.

The reason we really like these types of businesses, obviously, is because they're sticky.

Once you win them, the recurring revenue is there.

I view that there's quite a bit of opportunity for us in semi-custom.

The pipeline is strong.

It's across a variety of different markets and it's an area that we will continue to differentiate given our IP and SoC design capability.

Okay.

And do you expect the margin profile and the profitability to look similar?

If you look at the overall business, we would like to talk about the EESC business versus specific design wins.

And the EESC business, you can see, has good profitability and we will continue to work on improving that.

Great.

Thank you.

Operator, we'd like to take two more questions, please.

Certainly.

Our next question comes from Michael McConnell of Pacific Crest Securities.

Please go ahead.

Thank you.

I just wanted to clarify on the graphics side, with your sell-through commentary and the on board market and the inventory commentary, is that a market issue or is that an AMD issue?

Relative to the AIB channel, I thought the commentary, the third quarter was slow.

Some of that was market and some of that was the -- our product positioning.

As we look into the fourth quarter, we think the market will be a normal quarter and certainly we view the opportunity to improve in the AIB channel.

Okay.

And then -- and just to clarify, you did say channel inventory will be -- you're expecting channel inventory overall for the market to be normalized by Q4?

No.

What we said was that there was nothing unusual in the channel inventory relative to the third quarter.

The previous question was about whether the distributors would have enough inventory to support the fourth quarter.

Relative to overall channel inventories, our goal is to normalize channel inventories over the next several quarters.

Thanks for the clarification.

And our final question comes from Sanjay Chaurasia from Nomura.

Please go ahead.

Hi, Lisa.

I have a question on servers.

As you have laid out your strategy and the fact you have moved service into Semi-Custom business, could you talk about how would you defend, by my estimates, more than $0.5 billion in server revenue?

It does look like based on this cost cuts, there's not much significant focus on improving x86 performance as it relates to servers.

So what happens to this business?

Is it defendable or does it continue to go down?

Okay, maybe let me talk about servers a little bit more generally and we can clarify some of the specifics.

From a general standpoint, the server market is a big large TAM, so we are certainly interested in growing in servers.

From where we are today, our product portfolio in x86 is several years old, and we are certainly looking at updating that over the next couple of years.

And then as we look at the opportunity in server, particularly in dense server, there's an opportunity for both x86 and ARM, and so we are going after the newer markets in server versus some of the traditional enterprise.

Okay.

As a follow-up, if I exclude your gaming business in Semi-Custom, what would be the mix of x86 and ARM in your Semi-Custom design wins?

And also, the two new design wins you talked about, are these x86-based or ARM-based?

If you're asking about the Semi-Custom revenue today, the Semi-Custom revenue today is all x86-based.

As we move forward, we believe ARM will become more important in that business.

Then specific to the two new Semi-Custom opportunities, one of them is an ARM and one is an x86.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Operator, thank you.

That concludes today's call.

If you could wrap it up, we'd appreciate it.

Thank you.

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