American Eagle Outfitters Inc (AEO) 2016 Q2 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Greetings and welcome to the American Eagle Outfitters second-quarter 2016 earnings conference call.

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

  • I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Ms. Judy Meehan, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

  • - VP of IR

  • Good afternoon, everyone.

  • Joining me today for our prepared remarks are Jay Schottenstein, Chief Executive Officer; Chad Kessler, Global Brand President of the AE Brand; Jen Foyle, Global Brand President of Aerie; and Scott Hurd, Interim Chief Financial Officer. Also joining us for Q&A today is Michael Rempell, Chief Operating Officer.

  • Before we begin today's call, I need to remind you that we will make certain forward-looking statements. These statements are based upon information that represents the Company's current expectations or beliefs. The results actually realized may differ materially based on risk factors included in our SEC filings. We have also posted a financial supplement with additional financial details on our website.

  • And now I'd like to turn the call over to Jay.

  • - CEO

  • Thanks, Judy, and good morning, everyone.

  • Business momentum continued into the second quarter, completing a strong first half of 2016. Second-quarter revenue grew 3%, and EPS increased 35% to $0.23. This marked the eighth consecutive quarter of profit improvement.

  • So far this year, our earnings per share have increased over 40%, a significant increase last year. And while it's gratifying to demonstrate great progress, we are highly focused on the future of pursuing what we see today as a vast market opportunity for greater customer acquisition, engagement, and further profitable growth.

  • Our goal has been to position our brands for a new retail environment, one that involves broader competition, and new ways in which our customer interacts and shops. We believe that we are now out ahead of this profound transformation in our industry, and we intend to stay there.

  • For the past few years, we have worked hard but also very strategically. We have lifted our brand above the competition by raising the bar on merchandise innovation and strengthening our customer focus. I also believe we've made good investment to support best-in-class technologies and capabilities. We will continue to invest, innovate, and lead.

  • We are creating greater differentiation and more compelling overall brand experience. Chad, Jen, and the team's excellent work to elevate style, quality, and incorporate innovation has been well received. A few examples include our denim and bottom categories where we have led in bringing flex and stretch fabrics to market. We're also making good progress in other areas, including tops, where we're also introducing new fabrics and greater technology.

  • Our focus on product and brand also dovetail with improved speed to market and disciplined inventory management. Omni-channel's tools continue to enable a more efficient use of inventory, and support strong customer engagement and satisfaction.

  • Our online business, particularly through the mobile channel, has been exceptionally strong. In fact, our new Mobile-First website drove a 35% increase in mobile conversion. We continue to see a transition to a multi-channel shopper who consistently spends more than a single-channel shopper.

  • Ensuring we remain ahead of how customers engage with our brands is a top priority. We're also doing a good job leveraging mall traffic, yet we are focused on further strengthening store productivity, enhancing the store experience with the right service levels, and creating a more compelling environment for customers.

  • From a financial standpoint, we have our sights firmly focused on continued profitable growth. The foundation of our Business is extremely strong. We maintain a healthy balance sheet, and we'll continue to maximize our growth opportunities.

  • There's significantly more runway for American Eagle which is perfectly positioned for today's consumer. In a few weeks you'll be seeing our new marketing platform, which I am confident will highlight the brand's broader appeal. Aerie continues to demonstrate its extraordinary potential and unique market position. Strong product and authentic marketing, such as our recent Share Your Spark campaign, are truly resonating with a growing customer base. We remain enthusiastic about the future potential of Tailgate, Todd Snyder, and creating new ventures to build success for many years to come.

  • Thanks, and now I'll turn the call over to Chad.

  • - Global Brand President of AE

  • Thanks, Jay.

  • I'm pleased to report that the American Eagle brand delivered another solid quarter in a tough retail landscape. Product leadership and innovation, combined with elevated quality and value, continued to resonate with our customers.

  • In the second quarter, our brand comps increased 1%, and we delivered a meaningful increase in the year-over-year merchandise margin and profitability. Sales were especially strong online, and we continue to see our best customers shopping all channels and spending more. Across the brand, we achieved higher selling prices and increased transaction size.

  • We were impacted by unseasonable weather early in the quarter, followed by improved momentum in June and July. Overall, our spring and summer collections were well received. Women's posted a positive mid-single-digit comp, with strength across most categories, with highlights in denim, shorts, dresses, knit and woven tops.

  • Demand for men's was not as strong, with comps down in the low-single digits. We did see good strength in denim, shorts, woven shirts, and underwear, although most knit top categories and accessories were below our expectations. The men's business strengthened as the quarter progressed, and we continue to work hard on bringing improved styles and more innovation across the collection.

  • Our merchandise margin and profitability were nicely positive to last year. Higher realized prices and lower product costs contributed to the favorability. Our sourcing team has done a great job leveraging a positive environment, creating efficiencies to drive our costs down.

  • At the same time, we've delivered better quality and improved speed to market. As we noted on our last call, we expect to achieve sourcing benefits for the balance of the year.

  • AE's back-to-school and fall collections are infused with newness and innovation. Across categories, we believe we've captured exciting new trends and styles that are emerging this season. We expanded our signature denim X and flex jeans to include new fits, styles, and revolutionary 360-degree stretch.

  • Importantly, we're also leveraging our dominance in leading fits in jeans to extend our Franchise across bottoms categories to include pants and shorts. This further builds our competitive advantage, and expands the moat around our Business. Looking forward, we will continue to raise the bar on product innovation and leadership, season upon season.

  • In September, I'm excited to launch our new global brand campaign platform that celebrates young America, their unique voice, individuality, and influential perspective. Building off our authentic heritage as America's favorite jeans brand, we will leverage this campaign to capitalize on our current momentum, strengthen the emotional connection with our customer, and broaden the appeal of our brand.

  • We see significant market opportunity in today's retail landscape. We will remain focused on leveraging our competitive advantages, driving quality sales, and staying focused on our customers to deliver an exceptional brand experience. Congratulations once again to the entire AE team for another outstanding quarter.

  • Thanks, and now I'll turn it over to Jen.

  • - Global Brand President of Aerie

  • Thanks, Chad, and good morning, everyone.

  • I'm thrilled to report that Aerie's strong momentum has continued, with the second quarter marking the fifth consecutive quarter of 20% or better comps and record profitability. In fact, second-quarter margin was the highest to date. With a comp gain of 24%, we experienced strength across all channels, and we continue to attract new customers to Aerie, growing our active customer base in the mid-teens.

  • Sales metrics were strong across the board, and we saw increased transactions and a higher basket size. We experienced good strength in most categories, including intimates, swim, accessories, and apparel. Customers are excited by the newness in our Business, which combines traditional intimates with fun new novelty items and comfortable loungewear.

  • And now, as we enter fall, we look forward to the launch of our new sports and yoga line. We've taken our time and built the foundation for a quality sports-inspired collection and to add to our product offerings.

  • The digital business has been exceptional, and our store base continues to get stronger. We are focusing on creating a better store experience, maintaining higher in-stocks, and improving productivity.

  • I'm pleased we will continue to fuel our expansion with approximately 65 locations opening up in the next 18 months, which will include key underpenetrated markets. Aerie's square footage is expected to grow 32% by the end of FY17.

  • I'm thrilled with the power of our Aerie Real campaign, and the incredible momentum behind our Body Positivity movement. With each new season, we build on our message; and through social media, we stay highly engaged with our customers. I know I speak for the entire Aerie team that our customers' feedback has been the most gratifying and uplifting experience.

  • Aerie is in the very early stages of a remarkable growth plan. We have seemingly endless opportunity. We're excited about the future, and yet we're laser-focused and grounded on today.

  • We will continue to challenge ourselves to deliver great new product, innovate categories, and expand our collections. And we will engage with our customer on her terms in a real and authentic way. Thanks to the team for their unwavering commitment and outstanding execution.

  • With that, I'll turn it over to Scott.

  • - Interim CFO

  • Thanks, Jen, and good morning, everyone.

  • We delivered positive momentum in the second quarter, achieving sequential growth and building on the improvements from last year. Top-line growth, strong merchandise profitability, combined with controlled expenses, drove a 35% increase in second-quarter earnings. To demonstrate our strong profit flow-through, we generated $25 million of incremental revenue and $16 million of incremental operating profit.

  • Now looking more closely at the details of the quarter -- total revenue increased 3% to $823 million from $797 million last year. Consolidated comparable sales increased 3%. This follows an 11% comparable sales increase in the second quarter last year. Additional sales information can be found on page 5 of the presentation.

  • This quarter by brand -- AE comps were up 1% and Aerie comps increased 24%. Consolidated comps were driven by a mid-single-digit increase in the average transaction value, due to a low single-digit increase in the average unit retail price and higher units per transaction. We achieved high-quality sales, strategically, using promotions that delivered top-line growth and an increase in margin.

  • Total gross profit increased 8% to $307 million from $285 million last year. The gross margin rose 160 basis points to a rate of 37.3% of revenue. Our merchandise margin expanded by 190 basis points due to lower costs and higher realized selling prices. Buying, occupancy, and warehousing deleveraged 30 basis points, primarily due to increased delivery costs related to the growth in our digital business.

  • SG&A dollars increased 2% to $200 million. Planned investments in advertising and strategic initiatives, along with increases in variable selling expenses, were partially offset by good expense management. As a rate to revenue, SG&A improved 20 basis points (technical difficulty) 24.5% last year. Depreciation and amortization increased to $39 million, and deleveraged 20 basis points to 4.7% as a rate to revenue.

  • Operating income rose 29% to $69 million from $53 million last year, and operating margin expanded by 160 basis points to 8.3% as a rate to revenue. Other expenses comprised of $3 million related to currency loss on cash held in Canadian dollars. This compares to other expense of $2 million last year.

  • In the second quarter, the tax rate was 36.5%, compared to last year of 34.7%. Share buybacks led to a lower share count compared to last year. EPS of $0.23 increased 35% from $0.17 last year.

  • Turning to the balance sheet, starting with inventory, which can be found on page 6 of the presentation, we ended the quarter with inventory at cost of $422 million, up 3% from last year. Ending units were down in the mid-single digits, offset by a high single-digit increase in the average unit cost due to product mix and continued investments in merchandise composition. Like for like, average unit cost is down to last year.

  • The change from our guidance of flat year-over-year inventory was due to an acceleration of receipts to support the upcoming advertising campaign. Strong inventory management remains a top priority. Looking ahead, we expect third-quarter ending inventory at cost to be up in the low-single digits.

  • We ended the quarter with $240 million in cash, compared to $327 million last year. Lower cash was the result of $227 million in share buybacks last year. In addition, over the past year we returned $94 million in cash dividends and spent $135 million in capital expenditures.

  • Capital expenditures totaled $36 million in the second quarter and $61 million year to date. We now expect CapEx to be on the low end of the range at approximately $160 million for the year.

  • During the quarter, we opened five stores and closed seven. Additionally, there were 13 international licensed store openings, and we ended the quarter with 158 licensed stores across 23 countries.

  • Although we have very few stores that are unprofitable, we continue to pursue opportunities to rationalize or consolidate selling markets. We are on track to close approximately 35 to 40 underperforming stores this year.

  • As a note, we have a good amount of flexibility in our fleet, with more than 500 store leases expiring in the next three years, and over 180 in the next year alone. Additional store information can be found on pages 9 through 11 in the presentation.

  • Now looking ahead to the third quarter, based on an anticipated low single-digit increase in the comparable sales, we expect third-quarter EPS of $0.40 to $0.41. This compares to EPS of $0.35 last year, and excludes potential impairment and restructuring charges.

  • We will strive for continued gross margin expansion and SG&A leverage. We will maintain a disciplined approach to managing the Business well, with a sharp eye on delivering consistent, profitable growth.

  • Thank you, and now we'll take your questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Simeon Siegel, Nomura Securities.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks. Good morning. With the general rationalization happening across the department store and specialty channels, can you talk about your opportunity to gain share at the AE brand? Maybe what you think of the AE comp trajectory should look like over the next quarters? Any update on the current trends? What are you assuming for the back half promotional environment and maybe the gross margin impact there?

  • Thanks.

  • - Global Brand President of AE

  • I think it's definitely an interesting and evolving competitive landscape out there. In terms of what we're focused on, is we're focused on providing the best customer experience we can in our stores. We're focused on evolving our omni-channel approach to the customer.

  • We want the customer to be able to interact as easily and as seamlessly with the brand, any way that she's looking to do that and so we're focusing a lot of effort there. I also think the stores that we have and the store fleet will evolve over time, but the stores we have are essential to the customer experience.

  • And there is a lot of shift happening in the landscape. We'll see how that impacts us directly. I don't know -- we've seen as competitors close in those same malls, we can pick up 1 or 2 points in comp.

  • We'll see how that happens over time. We've guided for the quarter; we don't guide beyond that. So I don't really want to share other future expectations there.

  • - CEO

  • Just to touch on your question around gross margin opportunities. So we do expect gross margin expansion here in the third quarter. To Chad's point, it's a bit early to speculate on the fourth quarter. We have product cost benefits and our strategic approach to promotions. We do expect gross margin expansion here in the third quarter.

  • - Analyst

  • Great. Thanks a lot. Best of luck for the rest of the year.

  • - CEO

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Brian Tunick, Royal Bank of Canada.

  • - Analyst

  • Yes, hi, this is Kate Simmons on for Brian. Thanks for taking our question.

  • We've heard some better commentary on denim and maybe some newer Silhouette adoption going on in the landscape. Chad, just wanted to see if you could speak to any newer trends happening in your own denim business, any newer Silhouette adoption. And also any progress you've made in terms of the tops to bottom ratio there. Thank you.

  • - Global Brand President of AE

  • Sure, yes. I would like to start off just by saying whether it's men's or women's, it holds for the whole brand, that our bottoms business has never been stronger. We're thrilled about back-to-school and Q2 and back-to-school and how we're starting. The customer's definitely responding well to the assortments we have out there.

  • We have such a democratic offering across the full range of fits that I feel like we're well prepared for shifts that may happen in terms of Silhouette. We're seeing a lot of excitement around some of the fashion rises in Destroy. I feel like we're well prepared as that business evolves.

  • I think in terms of the tops to bottoms ratio, we are seeing positive momentum in the women's tops business and that helps to balance out the tops to bottoms ratio somewhat. In men's, we have -- the men's bottoms business had a very strong Q2 and similar to women's has never been better. And as with men's tops lagging a little bit slower in the turnaround there, that tops to bottoms ratio is still favoring the bottoms business.

  • That really is our key strength. So we will do whatever we can to get the tops businesses moving in a positive direction in both men's and women's. But I don't see our bottoms business slowing down at all. And as we can continue to grow and expand both the customer base and the business in bottoms, I'm not sure if the tops to bottoms ratio will change meaningfully towards tops in the future. And I'm not sure that's necessarily something that needs to happen for our business to continue to expand.

  • - Analyst

  • Great. Best of luck for back-to-school.

  • - Global Brand President of AE

  • Thanks.

  • - VP of IR

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Janet Kloppenburg, JJK Research.

  • - Analyst

  • Good morning, everyone, and congratulations on a good quarter. Just a couple of questions. Scott, if you could talk about the marketing investment in the back half. I know a new campaign is launching, and I'm wondering if you'll still be able to get SG&A leverage on a low single-digit comp.

  • And Chad, if you could talk about two things. First of all, if you're expecting progress in the men's business. I know you've introduced a lot of flex fabrics in the tops area and I'm wondering what you're expecting there from that innovation. And just overall, the traffic trends that you're seeing in the business and if we think perhaps the new marketing campaign could help reverse those trends.

  • Thanks.

  • - Interim CFO

  • Hi, Janet. Thank you for your comments.

  • As it relates to the marketing investment, so here for Q3 we do expect to have some leverage in our SG&A rate. And our approach has been pretty consistent here, is really taking a disciplined approach to how we deploy our SG&A dollars, challenging the ROIs and making sure we prioritize the highest. We do have a pretty dynamic expense base with a lot of flexibility, so we plan to have a consistent leverage.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks, Scott. Hi, Chad.

  • - Global Brand President of AE

  • Hi, Janet. So men's, just to put it, I think, in perspective, the men's business was down slightly. But the bottoms business, as I said on the last question, is the best bottoms business we've had in men's. So we are definitely seeing great progress and continued strength in men's bottoms.

  • And in tops, we are starting to see -- the turn in men's tops is taking a little longer than I would have hoped. But we are definitely seeing seeds of progress with some of the innovations that we have delivered. We are seeing some really strong businesses in the men's tops categories. And I hope as we continue to go forward that will grow as a penetration of men's tops and we will see positive momentum in men's. So I do think we're making progress there and the innovation is helping and the customer is seeing better value from what we're delivering there.

  • In terms of traffic, mall traffic for apparel does continue to be challenging. We continue to see that we're leveraging the traffic that the -- our traffic is better than the mall traffic for apparel. And then we're able to leverage clearly the traffic that we're getting.

  • I think our stores provide a great experience for the customer and I think we do benefit -- or I know we benefit from the size of our fleet in terms of the complete digital business. Our multi-channel customers are the strongest customers that we have and the stores provide great experience and great customer service for them.

  • The campaign -- we want to launch this campaign to build on the strength we're seeing in the business; I think it's going to make the brand even stronger. And we continue to be focused on our core customer. But I do think the brand, new brand platform, will bring new customers to the business and even broaden the appeal of the brand beyond its current customer base.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks so much. Good luck.

  • - Global Brand President of AE

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Anna Andreeva, Oppenheimer.

  • - Analyst

  • Great. Thanks so much. Good morning.

  • - CEO

  • Good morning, Anna.

  • - Analyst

  • A question on gross margins for the quarter. Nice beat versus expectations.

  • Sorry if I missed this, but were mark-downs down as part of that increase? Do you still see opportunity for lower mark-downs for the year? And remind us, how are you thinking about AUC cushion into the back half and into next year?

  • And then secondly, just a question on comp metrics. AURs up low singles, I think slowed a bit sequentially. How should we expect this metric in the back half?

  • Thanks.

  • - Interim CFO

  • You had a big pile there. I'll take the ones that I got then you can remind me which ones I missed.

  • As it relates to mark-downs in the quarter, for the second quarter mark-downs had no impact on gross margin. They were even year over year.

  • As it relates to the average unit cost, I think you had a question there on average unit cost, so the thing I'd point you to on a like-for-like basis, our average unit costs are down. In terms of the rise that you're seeing as we've talked about, our average unit retails are being driven by the investment in our products, so the innovation is driving those average unit retails.

  • And then I think you had a question on back half AUR. I'm not sure I followed completely what you were asking.

  • - Global Brand President of AE

  • Anna, this is Chad. In terms of AURs, we do continue to see an opportunity for AUR growth throughout the back half and into the future. As we continue to provide innovation and better quality and better fashion to our customer, both our male and female customers are seeing greater value in what we're giving and that's allowing us to raise the AURs.

  • Also part of it is driven by mix and the strength of our bottoms business. We haven't seen a slow-down, material slow-down, in AUR growth and believe we continue to have opportunity as we move forward.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. That's helpful. And Chad, should we expect AUC to still be down into 2017? Thanks again.

  • - COO

  • Hi, Anna, it's Michael Rempell.

  • I can't really speak to 2017 yet, but what I will tell you is we expect for the back half of the year, we're looking at about 100 to 150 basis points of mark-up improvement. I certainly expect looking at what we're seeing now, that we'll see that into Q1 of next year.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks so much. Best of luck.

  • - COO

  • Take care.

  • Operator

  • John Morris, BMO Capital Markets.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks. My congratulations to the team on a really strong performance here.

  • - CEO

  • Thanks, John.

  • - Analyst

  • We talked to Chad quite a bit. I wanted to ask Jen a little bit more about the texture of her business. And maybe comment a little bit about where you saw strength, particularly an eye towards market share opportunity as you look ahead even a year from now perhaps within the swim category.

  • I'm wondering if you're seeing either near-term pressures as a result of competitors exiting? Or the market share opportunity, were you able to pick that up on a go-forward basis? Get that take.

  • Thanks.

  • - Global Brand President of Aerie

  • Sure, thanks, John.

  • Starting with the business, we were definitely onto the bralette trend fairly early. That was a huge build for us in the business going into the second half and we continue to build on that category. I wanted to note it wasn't just about bralettes, every category is trending for us right now, which is really exciting. I think we really hit on the trends, but in a way that means something to the Aerie girl.

  • That said, as we think about market share, we're not going to stop. We have a ton of opportunity in this brand. I mentioned we're going to launch the sport and yoga line. I actually believe that trend's not going away, I think it's just part of her lifestyle. That's going to be our next launch.

  • And then swim, I always make a joke about swim for our girl because we have a younger customer. For her, like, that business is almost like buying a new prom dress every year or buying a new dress. She has to purchase that new swimsuit to go away every year and she does. And we're going to really expand on that category. We love the swim business. Our girl really responded. I don't think we saw the down-tick like some of our competitors did last year.

  • So as I mentioned, margins were up for Aerie. And while we did have to liquidate a little swim on the back half, it was highly profitable and it was our most profitable season. So we're really excited about that business.

  • - Analyst

  • Great. Good luck for back-to-school.

  • - CEO

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Richard Jaffe, Stifel.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks very much and well done.

  • A follow-on on Aerie. Given the rapid expansion of free-standing stores, want to know how the math is balancing out for the shop in American Eagle stores and the free-standing stores. If you're able to expand the shop-in-shops and if economically it's better to do that than to continue to roll out stores or vice versa. So if you could talk about the math there.

  • Also from an accounting standpoint, if you could comment, does the Aerie comp include the Aerie product in American Eagle stores? Or does that number go to the American Eagle stores, that sales increase? Thank you.

  • - Interim CFO

  • So the easy part's the comp. The comp for the merchandise sold at an American Eagle store is in the American Eagle comp.

  • - Global Brand President of Aerie

  • We're definitely growing the side-by-sides. We'll have 90 by the end of 2017 which is a nice growth. We love that operating model; it's great for the Aerie business. And I always say it opens up new doors and new customers for us. The AE girl naturally moves over to Aerie and learns about our business and loves what she's seeing. So side-by-side is definitely part of our strategy.

  • Thinking about the standalone business, we're going to be highly strategic on where we open up new stores. We have a game plan in place. We have density models that we're looking at to make sure that we don't overdo it. But we have very pointed strategies on the stores that we're going to open.

  • What we see is there's a nice leverage on the direct business where we have locations. So as a reminder, we're only in 11 states right now. We're only in 11 states, so we have lots of expansion opportunity. But the growth in direct, which has been dynamic, we've had a huge direct growth, and it's been explosive, as I mentioned. We see 60% of the growth in direct coming from those 11 states. So that's what I really think the opportunity is for Aerie.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Adrienne Yih, Wolfe Research.

  • - Analyst

  • Good morning. Let me add my congratulations. The early back-to-school flows look great, so congratulations.

  • - CEO

  • Thank you.

  • - Analyst

  • Chad, question for you and then Jen, a question for you. Chad, can you talk about the inventory environment and the promotional environment exiting the second quarter? So really July and then into early August. It would seem that everybody's intent on cleaning up. And then the fact that your markdowns were flattish year on year suggests to me that perhaps it is.

  • Secondarily for Jen, when is the sport yoga launch? And then as you build that brand awareness outside of those 11 states, what kind of marketing are you doing? And when you do your marketing studies, what is the brand awareness that you see this year over maybe, say, last year?

  • Thank you very much.

  • - Global Brand President of AE

  • Hi. In terms of promotions, we continue to be strategic in trying to contain the promotions. The landscape, however, continues to be incredibly promotional. And so we feel like we need to compete on the lease line with something to engage the customer. We are finding that the promotions we're running -- clearly as you see in the results -- the promotions we're running are contained, but have also been effective at helping to drive the metrics that we need to drive.

  • - Interim CFO

  • In terms of the financial aspect of the inventory composition, we are cleaner than last year. And, again, the markdowns were in line with last year from a profit standpoint.

  • - Analyst

  • Great.

  • - Global Brand President of Aerie

  • And as for Aerie, the yoga launch is coming your way in a couple weeks. We're really excited about it. We think the product's great. As I mentioned, we really took our time and listened to what the customer wanted and we have an expansive offering, so we're excited about that.

  • As far as brand awareness and market share, I can't say enough about this Aerie Real campaign. It's resonated with our girl. That's all I have to say. The girl loves this campaign and we're not going to stop. We think that this campaign has a long life to it.

  • And it's actually not even a campaign anymore. It happens to be our brand DNA. What's interesting about that is when something like this resonates with our customer, it also resonates with our team. And just the animation that our team feels around this Aerie Real campaign, it really brings it to life.

  • So we're all behind this campaign and we know that it's bringing brand awareness. Our file is definitely up; we're getting new customers every day. And we're excited and we know that she's pleased with all the information we're getting from them and what she's saying to us. So we're not going to stop.

  • - Analyst

  • Fantastic. Best of luck.

  • - CEO

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Neely Tamminga, Piper Jaffray.

  • - Analyst

  • Great. Good morning. This is Kayla Wesser on for Neely.

  • We heard a lot about this denim strength. Just wondering, based on past experiences, how long can a trend like this go on? How should we expect the timing of flows to move this year versus last year? Any fats opposing more new items or floor sets throughout the holiday season versus last year?

  • Thanks.

  • - Global Brand President of AE

  • Our denim business is pretty special. Our denim business was growing when everyone was saying denim was dead. And now denim is not dead and our denim business continues to grow. We have such a loyal customer base for our jeans and we continue to attract new customers to the brand for the denim.

  • The team does a lot of work around fit innovation, fabric innovation, wash innovation. There's a lot of -- we're constantly testing. So I feel confident that we're going to be able to continue to grow the denim business for the foreseeable future. As I said, the team does an amazing job and the customer's very loyal to that product. I don't see that business slowing down. I think that continues to be a key strength of the brand.

  • - Analyst

  • And any thoughts --

  • - Global Brand President of AE

  • In terms of the floor sets, based on what seems to be the increasingly competitive landscape in the fourth quarter, we are going to make some changes to how we deliver product to stores this fall. I don't want to lay out for everybody what those changes are going to be, but we have reworked some of the product flow strategies, both for the digital channel as well as the stores channel, to try to keep the customer engaged and try to maximize margins through the fall season.

  • - Analyst

  • Great. Thanks. Best of luck out there.

  • - CEO

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Matthew Boss, JPMorgan.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi, It's Christina Brathwaite on for Matt. Thanks for taking our question.

  • Looking at the full-year store guidance, it looks like you've cut back on some of the stores that were planned to be closed, at both American Eagle and Aerie. Can you walk through the decision there, what's driving the change?

  • And more broadly how are you feeling about the health of your real estate portfolio, given the plans for additional store closures at the department stores? Is there an opportunity for square footage to potentially inflect positively into FY17?

  • - Interim CFO

  • Let's start with the real estate. The portfolio -- we have a wonderfully profitable fleet. Very few stores are unprofitable. When I think about closures, I think we ground on the fact that we've closed about 150 stores over the last three years. And we have eliminated the bottom operating profit rung of our portfolio.

  • Our stores really for us have a few jobs as we evaluate them. Number one, they need to be market accretive. Number two, they need to be able to meet our hurdle rate in terms of four-wall operating profit. And they need to service the customer from an omni perspective.

  • So as we look forward to the 500 store leases that will come up over the next three years, 180 of which in the next year, we'll run them through those metrics. We've been a consistent closer of stores that won't meet those hurdles that I discussed, and we'll continue to be in that same vein.

  • - CEO

  • Also, Scott, to add, we're seeing opportunity for high-profile locations too, for American Eagle and Aerie.

  • - Analyst

  • Great. Thank you.

  • - CEO

  • You're welcome.

  • Operator

  • Michael Binetti, UBS.

  • - Analyst

  • Hey, guys, good morning. Thanks for all the detail here today; it's very helpful.

  • If I can zero in on the comp guidance for a minute for low single-digits in third quarter, could you speak to August trends? And then I think the transactions in the second quarter were down mid single-digits, which is similar to what we've heard in most places in the mall. That was down from where you were in the first quarter. I think comparisons last year are pretty similar as we look quarter to quarter, down low singles. What kind of traffic do you have to see based on the AUR plans you have in third quarter, really into the back half of this year, and how are you thinking about traffic?

  • - Interim CFO

  • We're not expecting any difference in traffic trends as we move forward. In terms of how things are tracking here within the quarter, not going to specifically talk about where we are in the quarter. We're going to stick to our low single-digit top-line growth.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. If I could ask for a little color on Aerie for the model. I think you commented that the basket was higher. If you wouldn't mind giving us some color on whether that was UPT or ticket?

  • Then to compare, a little bit, I guess we have tougher comparisons coming up here. How should we think about how you guys are thinking about what kind of run rate Aerie should be at as we look into the back half of the year, given pretty volatile difference in the comparison?

  • - Global Brand President of Aerie

  • We were up against some pretty tough comparisons in Q1 and Q2 as well, so we hurdled that. So we will continue to drive the business. All of our metrics are up, actually. So not just the basket, our AUR. The nice thing in Aerie, our traffic happens to be up. So we're outpacing mall traffic and that has certainly helped the business.

  • - Interim CFO

  • With Aerie, only competing right now in 11 states and continuing to expand, we have a lot of growth opportunity for Aerie on top line and all the operating metrics, as Jen mentioned.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks a lot.

  • Operator

  • Oliver Chen, Cowen and Company.

  • - Analyst

  • Hello. It's Courtney Wilson on for Oliver today. Thanks for taking our question.

  • I was hoping you could talk a little bit more about your international plans maybe over the next year or so. How you're balancing that between the AE brand and Aerie and Company-owned and franchise, especially as you look to Europe and Mexico, et cetera.

  • Thanks very much.

  • - Interim CFO

  • We have a greatly profitable international business, and to your point, built on the licensed business. We've got three stores in the UK. We had planned on three more stores this year. We've elected to hold on those stores given the uncertain environment in the UK.

  • We have so much opportunity in our highly profitable Mexico business, our continuing to improve Asia business, and we also look to distort more towards our licensed partners, as well. So we have growth across both American Eagle and Aerie, both in the licensed business and wholly owned. So we will continue to drive that.

  • We have opportunities in Spain and other areas of Europe that we're beginning to explore. And again, we do have a continued focus on building on the highly profitable licensed business that we're running.

  • - Analyst

  • Great. Thanks so much. Best of luck.

  • - Interim CFO

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Tiffany Kanaga, Deutsche Bank.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi, thanks so much for taking my question.

  • Would you discuss digital sales growth trends in the quarter, if you can quantify a comp number there and your goals for where you think online penetration of sales could ultimately go?

  • - COO

  • Sure.

  • So as Chad and Jen mentioned, we're really pleased with the e-commerce business in the second quarter. What we saw was we saw the comp continue to grow. So we saw comp grow from Q4 into Q1 and then accelerate into Q2.

  • It's really -- it's a combination of things. It's building on the brand and product strength that we have with both Aerie and American Eagle, as well as some great new capabilities that our digital teams delivered. So Jay mentioned we had a 30% lift in our mobile conversion.

  • Our mobile app continues to be very strong with almost 100% comp in the quarter. And we're continuing to grow both our international e-commerce business as well as expand our flexible fulfillment capabilities, which in addition to driving e-commerce sales, are allowing us to more efficiently use our inventory to gain some of the higher AURs and maintain margin metrics.

  • As far as the comp, the comp was a high double-digit comp, very strong comp there. And it's roughly 20% of the business today. It obviously continues to grow as a percent of the business and we'll see how high is high. We're not necessarily focused on e-commerce sales; we're focused on profitable sales for the Company in total.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks so much.

  • - COO

  • Sure.

  • Operator

  • Betty Chen, Mizuho Securities.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you. Good morning. Congratulations on the nice progress in the second quarter. Very good results.

  • I was curious about margins. Again, gross margin was up nicely with merchandise margin up strong. Where are we now relative to historical levels and whether that's even applicable, given the product innovation that's available in the stores? And also, as Aerie continues to ramp up, can you remind us -- I believe Aerie was now comparable in terms of margin with AE, and last quarter at least, where are we in the second quarter and where do we think Aerie margins can go?

  • Thanks.

  • - Interim CFO

  • Let me spend a few minutes on that. In terms of gross margin in comparison to historical, we're getting right up there with historical levels, historical highs. And in terms of is it applicable, I think what's happening is we've got a refined DNA and going back to and executing better to our traditional roots. So we certainly have more opportunity in gross margin.

  • And for Aerie, Aerie is about on par with American Eagle. As their productivity continues to increase and with their growth and our ability to deploy some more effective sourcing opportunities within their product line, we should see continued expansion in their gross margin. And over the long term, we'd hope them to be accretive to the total.

  • Operator

  • Susan Anderson, FBR.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi, good morning. Congratulations on a really nice quarter.

  • - VP of IR

  • Good morning.

  • - Analyst

  • I just wanted to drill down a little bit on fashion. Sounds like you are seeing the Silhouette change happening now. I think some others have said the same thing. Maybe if you could give your thoughts around how fast could this happen, could it be significant driver to sales over the next couple years?

  • Or is this something that makes its way out there slowly and not as much of an impact? And then also, if you could touch on anything else beyond denim, which sounds to be pretty strong so far for back-to-school in terms of strong trends out there.

  • - Global Brand President of AE

  • I would say first, I'll just start with the second question in terms of denim. It's really definitely talking a lot about denim. I think it's important to recognize that it's our entire bottoms business that is really strong. So we've leveraged our strength and our customer's loyalty in jeans and taking that across shorts and pants and see really strong business across that whole section of the business.

  • In terms of new fashion trends, the business is constantly evolving. I think we find the most important thing for us is to provide the best outfitting and trend-right product for the customer. We're seeing strength both in more oversized stops, as well as more shrunken tops.

  • I think we're seeing potentially some shift there, not as dramatic I think, as some other people have talked to. But with the way we run the business and the way we're constantly testing for what's the future as well as our Don't Ask Why capsule which gives us a glimpse into where our customer's headed, I think we'll be prepared as we start to see changes there.

  • Whether it means meaningful impact to the business, I think that's -- it's always great when things start to shift. Whenever she feels like she needs to update her closet, it's always an opportunity. It just means that we need to be positioned -- we need to time it right with the customer and have the right inventory behind it and that's what we work on season after season.

  • - Analyst

  • Great. That's helpful. And then if I could throw one more in there on the omni-channel part of the business. Obviously you have been ahead of the game, as you mentioned, and have been benefiting from it.

  • Maybe if you could talk about how long can this benefit continue? And then also how do you continue to stay ahead of the game, as a lot of your competitors are looking to put in some omni-channel strategies similar to yours?

  • Thanks.

  • - Global Brand President of AE

  • I'll let Michael talk to some of the technologies around it, but I think for us, I think it's not just a matter of does it continue for a few quarters or a year or whatever it is. This is the way the customer behaves; this is the way the customer is shopping going forward. And as a customer-focused Company we want to make sure we're always leading there and making it as easy as possible for her to participate in the brand.

  • We've talked about our profitable store fleet, as well as the flexibility we have in that store fleet. But the stores, as Jen mentioned, and for the AE brand as well, the stores are a terrific opportunity for us to take advantage of omni-channel technologies and omni-channel experience. The customer can participate with the brand in a physical way that is not possible with single-channel brands.

  • So we really believe that the future is mobile. The future is digital; the future is stores. And we're going to be prepared and do everything we can to be at the forefront of that to make the customer's experience as easy as possible.

  • - COO

  • I don't really have any specific comments about technology other than to say it's our job to make sure we stay ahead of the game. Through the last few years here we've built a terrific team. We have a good pipeline of new capabilities that we plan on deploying over the next couple years. So I feel very confident that we're going to continue to stay ahead of the competition.

  • Operator

  • Dana Telsey, Telsey Advisory Group.

  • - Analyst

  • Good morning and nice to see the continuation.

  • As you think about the Aerie business and the AE business, is the performance difference between in-store Aerie and its own Aerie box, how do you see that performance productivity metrics and merchandising assortment differ? And given the initiatives in marketing, how do you see the marketing spend evolving over the back half of the year?

  • Thank you.

  • - Interim CFO

  • In terms of Aerie productivity, side-by-side stores are our most productive in terms of operating profit. There's not a significant difference in terms of operating profit across the stores in terms of how we run them. It really comes down to square footage and how we staff those stores and the rent tied to them. I'll let Jen talk about the merchandising differences.

  • - Global Brand President of Aerie

  • Yes, the side-by-sides are smaller. So what we do when we position the merchandise strategy by format, is we make sure that the customer has the same experience in all formats. So we go after the key items of the season and we make sure those are represented in every format. Albeit it's a smaller format, she still gets the same experience.

  • - Interim CFO

  • And just to circle off on your question around advertising. We do expect advertising to be up. However, a reminder, we do expect to be able to leverage our expense base. And advertising investments have really been two-fold here for the back half. Continued investment in our digital marketing, which has driven large traffic increases to our websites.

  • By the way, about 100% of our customers shop on their mobile devices before they shop the store. Unquantifiable, but we do believe that we're driving customers into the store with that marketing as well. And then the marketing campaign that we've talked about. But again, expense leverage expected.

  • - VP of IR

  • Michelle, we have time for one more question.

  • Operator

  • Paul Lejeuz, Citigroup.

  • - Analyst

  • Good morning. It's actually Jennifer on for Paul.

  • I was wondering if you could talk a little bit more about international, both revenue and profitability in China, UK, Mexico and your franchise locations. Thanks.

  • - Interim CFO

  • Okay, sure. Happy to.

  • Not going to get into the specifics of revenue by channel but in terms of profitability, Mexico, nicely profitable. Asia, improved profitability over last year, in line with our expectations and targets for their growth. And UK, small business, three stores, not yet profitable, wait and see approach there.

  • - Analyst

  • And how about franchise?

  • - Interim CFO

  • Franchise is wonderfully profitable and will continue to grow.

  • - VP of IR

  • Okay, that concludes our call today -- are you done, Jennifer? Is that it? All right.

  • - Analyst

  • Yes.

  • - VP of IR

  • Okay. That concludes our call. Thanks for joining us, everybody. Have a great day. And appreciate your interest in American Eagle Outfitters. Thank you. Bye-bye.

  • Operator

  • This concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day.