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  • Operator

  • Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Zeta Fourth Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. (Operator Instructions)

  • I would now like to turn the conference over to Scott Schmitz, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

  • Scott Schmitz - SVP of IR

  • Thank you, operator. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Zeta's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2021 Conference Call. Before we begin, I would like to mention that today's presentation and press release are available on Zeta's website at www.investors.zetaglobal.com, where you will also find links to our SEC filings along with information about Zeta.

  • Joining me on the call today are David Steinberg, Zeta's Co-Founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Chris Greiner, Zeta's Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that statements made on this call as well as in the presentation and press release contain forward-looking statements regarding our financial outlook, business plans and objectives and other future events and developments, including statements about the market potential of our products, potential competition and revenues of our product and our goals and strategies.

  • These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. These risks and uncertainties include those described in the company's earnings release and other filings with the SEC and speak only as of today's date.

  • In addition, our discussion today will include references to certain supplemental non-GAAP financial measures, which should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for our GAAP results. We use these non-GAAP financial measures in managing the business and believe they provide useful information for our investors.

  • Reconciliations of the non-GAAP measures to corresponding GAAP measures, where appropriate, can be found in the company's earnings release and other filings with the SEC.

  • With that, I will now turn the call over to David.

  • David A. Steinberg - Co-Founder, Chairman of the Board & CEO

  • Thank you, Scott. Good afternoon, and thank you all for joining us. 2021 was an incredible year for Zeta, filled with many important milestones from going public to hosting our inaugural Zeta Live conference to achieving record results. In 2021, we generated revenue of $458 million, up 25% year-over-year or 30% adjusting for the 2020 presidential cycle, and we drove significant operating leverage by maintaining a disciplined cost structure.

  • Our financial performance is a reflection of the measurable value we deliver for our customers. And as a result of continuous investments we have made in our products, our people and our go-to-market initiatives. These results underscore the disruption that is accelerating in the marketing technology landscape as marketers seek to re-architect their strategies and systems to improve how they reach and engage customers and achieve the full potential of data-driven identity-based marketing.

  • Zeta's founding vision has never been more relevant in the marketplace to help brands navigate these challenges. As a sign of our confidence, we're announcing the long-term targets of our Zeta 2025 plan. The financial goals of this plan are to generate in excess of $1 billion in annual revenue with at least a 20% adjusted EBITDA margin by 2025.

  • We believe in our ability to achieve these results because of the changes in the digital marketing ecosystem, the evolution of our platform and the expansion of our go-to-market capabilities over the last 15 months, which are truly resonating in the marketplace.

  • The Zeta marketing platform with the customer data platform or CDP+ at its core was purpose-built to empower marketers to ingest, synthesize and activate identity-based data to create personalized marketing programs at scale through any channel and across the entire customer life cycle.

  • This single platform makes it easier and faster for marketers to deliver better consumer experiences and achieve higher return on investment. The ZMP is electrified by Zeta's proprietary first-party data set, which resolves to our Zeta ID that our customers access automatically. The presence of this identity-based data means that our customers are unaffected by environmental changes, such as the elimination of Apple's IDFA, the elimination of third-party cookies, or even Google's recent announcement to the changes in the Android app tracking platform.

  • We do not rely on any of these elements to identify individuals or measure marketing performance. These shifts in the environment are creating incremental demand for Zeta. The proof is not only in our results but also substantiated by independent third parties. For example, Forrester included our customer data platform in the large market presence segment of their now tech customer data platforms report published earlier this month.

  • Zeta was one of only 5 CDPs out of the 34 they analyze to be included in the large market presence segment, which denotes greater than $75 million in annual revenue. Additionally, Zeta was recognized as an automation CDP, the segment with the most highly functional capabilities. This was also supported by the CDP Institute, which recently conducted a thorough review of our CDP and issued a report, highlighting Zeta's powerful capabilities.

  • Zeta exceeded the core functionality requirements and earned perfect scores in each of their 17 categories evaluated, which span core data management, unified customer profiles, activation and analytics. The most important validation of this is coming from the customers as we continue to win against the largest marketing clouds in the world.

  • Let me give you an example. In the fourth quarter, one of the largest players in the U.S. retail industry replaced Salesforce after a 15-year partnership with Zeta's all-in-one Zeta Marketing Platform. Our team's expertise drove rapid time to deployment. And in only a matter of weeks, this client began deriving insights into their own customer base.

  • Zeta's CDP now sits at the heart of their marketing ecosystem, enriching their existing data and helping to inform on key business decisions. Delivering differentiated value is our North Star. We will continue to invest in the areas of greatest opportunity and the highest return to strengthen our platform and sharpen our differentiation.

  • Over the last 2 years, Zeta has invested approximately $250 million into research and development and go-to-market initiatives. And while this investment has contributed to our record 2021 performance. I continue to tell our Zeta team, not all things that got us here will get us where we want to go. As such, we continue to evolve as a company to support our Zeta 2025 growth and profitability targets.

  • For starters, we are raising our brand awareness through events like Zeta live with over 3,000 participants at our inaugural conference paired with incredible content from some of the foremost leaders in the industry. We have seen an increase in new pipeline opportunities and an acceleration of our close rate. I encourage you to view the Zeta Live content, which is available in the Events section of our Investor Relations website.

  • We will further expand our partnerships similar to what we announced in 2021 with Snowflake and Dun & Bradstreet. We will continue to look to drive more sales productivity behind our newly appointed Chief Revenue Officers, leading us to the next phase of growth for the company. Looking out to 2025, we believe Zeta is well positioned to become the leading marketing cloud in the world.

  • We plan on accelerating disruption in the ecosystem is creating massive opportunities for Zeta. Walled Garden providers continue to attempt to tighten their grip and change the rules. Just last week, Google announced plans to restrict cross-app tracking on Android devices, mirroring the IDFA changes at Apple. This is forcing marketers to look for new alternatives like Zeta.

  • Zeta has evolved from a disparate set of silos to the unified hub of a modern enterprise. Artificial intelligence has gone from experimentation to mission-critical. New ways of ingesting, synthesizing and storing data like the CDP are transformational for marketers. So the acceleration of channels that deliver scale and precision such as connected TV.

  • And while CTV is the fastest-growing channel in the marketing ecosystem, marketers have struggled to realize its potential and integrate CTV with their other people-based channels. Marketers need the ability to target individuals, not groups through more relevant omnichannel experiences and measure the impact with deterministic attribution. The need for data-driven identity-based marketing has never been stronger, and we are just beginning to scratch the surface of our rapidly growing multibillion-dollar addressable market.

  • And of course, none of this would be possible without our talented and dedicated Zeta people, which is why we're making major investments in our own team. We recently expanded the number of paid holidays, doubled our health and wellness benefits and quadrupled the number of learning and development classes to reward and retain our most valuable resource, our Zeta people.

  • Where we have done the best job attracting new people is in skilled and constrained areas such as sales and engineering, where we actually exceeded our hiring plans for last year. We are focused on becoming an employer of choice and strive to create a positive, diverse and inclusive environment with significant growth opportunities for all. Diversity, equity and inclusion is a strategic imperative of Zeta, and we believe, critical to our long-term success.

  • In conclusion, I would like to sincerely thank our Zeta team, our customers and our partners for an incredible 2021. I have never been more optimistic about our future, and I am honored to be able to share our Zeta 2025 goals with you. We're off to a fantastic start in 2022 as we continue to capitalize on the disruption in the market and provide more value than ever to our customers. And the best part is we are just getting started. Now let me hand it off to Chris to discuss our results in greater detail. Chris?

  • Christopher E. Greiner - CFO

  • Thank you, David, and good afternoon, everyone. As David highlighted, 2021 was an incredible year at Zeta with momentum building across our business. I have 2 agenda items for today's call. First, I want to provide deeper insight into the underlying drivers of our Q4 and full year results; and second, I will outline our path to Zeta 2025 and provide more detail on our 2022 guidance.

  • Throughout 2021, we remained focused on executing our plan, and the fourth quarter was no exception. In fact, we exceeded our guidance and internal expectations for each of our major reporting metrics and KPIs in the fourth quarter, which can be found on Slides 4 through 6 in our supplemental deck on our IR website.

  • Revenue of $135 million was up 18% year-to-year or 32% adjusting for the 2020 presidential cycle. Additionally, revenue increased 17% quarter-to-quarter. Our top line results were driven by the strength in each of our core drivers: scaled customer count of 355 expanded by 19 customers year-to-year and 8 quarter-to-quarter. Scaled customer ARPU of $368,000 increased 10% year-to-year and 15% quarter-to-quarter. And we generated 77% of our revenue direct on the Zeta Marketing Platform, up from 60% last year and 74% last quarter.

  • And related to our direct platform mix improvement, cost of revenue in the fourth quarter declined by 590 basis points year-to-year or 675 basis points, excluding stock-based compensation. On a GAAP basis, our net loss was $61.1 million, which includes $70.5 million of stock-based compensation. We generated adjusted EBITDA of $22.9 million or 17% of revenue in the fourth quarter.

  • Our strong fundamentals were evident over the full year's time horizon. For the full year 2021, we delivered revenue of $458 million, which was up 25% year-to-year. Normalized for the $15 million of 2020 presidential cycle revenue that did not repeat in 2021, growth came in at 30% year-to-year. Our growth is coming in a variety of ways. We're winning across industry verticals against numerous competitors with different products and across channels.

  • We saw a similar number of multiyear deals at a greater TCV than last quarter, as a further testament to our sales factories gearing up. We're seeing deals sourced from many different areas, from Zeta Live and marketing campaigns to sales development reps to quota carriers to partner referrals.

  • For example, we won a multiyear CDP contract at a large retail company that was sourced by an SCR or sales development reps. We won a multiyear Zeta cloud contract in the financial services vertical sourced by a partner. We also won a large multiyear CDP contract in the health care vertical through an internal cross-sell. And we continue to compete against and beat legacy competitors ranging from Adobe, Oracle, Salesforce and others.

  • And while these examples highlight new customer wins, approximately half of our revenue growth came from existing customers in 2021. For the year, our total Zeta NRR was 113%, with scaled customer NRR once again above 120%. Including the retail, financial services and health care verticals that I just referenced, 7 of our top 10 verticals grew greater than 25% in 2021.

  • Our revenue remains well diversified, with a broad coverage across industries as our largest vertical accounts for only 13% of revenues. Our cost of revenue percentage was 38.1% in 2021, representing an improvement of 230 basis points year-to-year or 290 basis points, excluding stock-based compensation, significantly outpacing our 2021 annual guidance of at least 150 basis points and long-term guidance of 100 basis points.

  • This was driven by the competitive strength of our platform, our pricing power and our ability to generate more revenue directly on the Zeta Marketing Platform. For 2021, our GAAP net loss was $249.6 million, which includes $259.2 million of accelerated stock-based compensation. The strength of our top line combined with our cost discipline, flow through the P&L, expanding our 2021 adjusted EBITDA by 60% year-to-year to $63.3 million.

  • This translates to an adjusted EBITDA margin of 13.8%, which is up 300 basis points year-to-year. From a cash perspective, it was also a record year. Cash flow from operating activities was $44.3 million for the full year 2021, with free cash flow generation of $17.5 million, up 73% year-to-year.

  • We ended 2021 with a cash balance of $104 million after completing our acquisition of Apptness. With 2021 as a backdrop, let me dive into the details behind our 2025 plan with the goal of achieving in excess of $1 billion in revenue and at least 20% adjusted EBITDA margin by 2025.

  • From a 4-year CAGR perspective, this would imply 22% top line growth and 33% bottom line growth. This rate of growth is consistent with our 3-year CAGR from 2019 to 2021 from a revenue perspective and half the growth rate we achieved in adjusted EBITDA over the same period of time. While our broader go-to-market initiatives, product innovation and the need for durable identity data provide the high-level catalyst behind Zeta 2025, I wanted to provide a simple framework with track full KPIs to help you monitor our progress.

  • This could be found starting on Slide 9 of our supplemental deck. At the most basic level, achievement of this plan assumes at least 5% annual growth in our scale of customer count and approximately 15% annual growth in our scaled customer ARPU, both of which are consistent with our prior results.

  • Expanding our scaled customer count by 5% annually equates to adding approximately 20 new scaled customer per year. This is consistent with what we achieved in 2021 despite the fact that 1/3 of our sellers grow with Zeta for less than a year. We expanded our direct Salesforce by over 35% in 2021, ending the year with 100 quota carriers. This exceeded our plan and reflects our ability to attract talent.

  • Our new hires are coming to us directly from competitors after they experience the power of our platform. We will continue to use a disciplined data-driven approach to add sales capacity and maintain strong productivity with the goal to reach approximately 250 quota carriers ending 2025. A major component of our Salesforce development is attributable to what we call our sales factories, which we break into 3 categories: this first factory is focused on demand generation. This includes our investment in brand awareness, the build-out of our demand generation capabilities, expansion of our SDR team and the sophistication of the systems we use to grow the sales pipeline.

  • Second factory is focused on velocity, ensuring a better flow-through of deals through our pipeline from early stage to late stage of closure, and the third factory is focused on sales productivity. We see good evidence of progress here with our strong win percentages and increasing deal sizes, which I'll touch upon shortly. Through the expansion of our direct Salesforce, along with our expanding partnerships with companies like Dun & Bradstreet and Snowflake, we believe 20 new scaled customers per year is an achievable target, and would still only put us at a 5% penetration of our customer-centric total addressable market.

  • In addition to new scale customers, we also see a large opportunity to expand ARPU with our existing customer base. One of the key strengths of the Zeta Marketing Platform is the ability to generate new learnings, insights and signals, making it more valuable over time, leading to strong loyalty and significant ARPU expansion.

  • On average, we've seen a 3x increase in scaled customer ARPU from customers with us less than a year versus those with us 3 years or more. As customers measure attribution from our platform, it creates stickiness and drives use case and channel expansion. As evidenced in 2019, our average channel per scaled customer was 1.2, which improved to 1.4 in 2020 and then to 1.9 in 2021.

  • By 2025, we expect this to expand to approximately 4 as customers realize even higher returns from a multichannel approach and leverage faster-growing channels such as CTV. Further proof of ROI customers experience on our platform is the growth of superscale customers, which are customers that have spent more than $1 million with us on a trailing 12-month basis.

  • From 2020 to 2021, our superscale customer count increased 43% to 97 customers. Nearly all of the growth in our super scaled customer count goes from existing customers or customers that started small and expanded on our platform. In total, we expect to generate approximately half of our growth from new customers and half from existing customers. We expect total data NRR to be in the range of 110% to 115% annually with scaled customer NRR slightly higher. In addition to durable top line growth, we expect to drive strong operating leverage over the next 4 years.

  • Specifically, we expect approximately 80% of our revenue to be generated directly on the Zeta Marketing Platform, which carries about a 2x margin profile of our integrated platform revenue. We expect favorable mix to reduce our cost of revenue by approximately 100 basis points per year. We also expect to drive operating expense leverage, most notably in the G&A line, as the infrastructure we've put in place over the last 2 years is highly scalable.

  • Net-net, we believe the path to greater than $1 billion in revenue and at least 20% adjusted EBITDA margin is highly achievable, requires consistent execution on our core drivers, which we worked to approve every day. Before wrapping up, let me provide details on our outlook for 2022.

  • After all, the path to Zeta 2025 starts now. The details of our guidance can be found on Slide 21 of our supplemental deck. For the full year 2022, we expect to generate revenue of $540 million to $550 million, up 18% to 20% year-to-year. We expect to generate adjusted EBITDA in the range of $80 million to $83 million, representing an increase of 26% to 31% year-over-year. On a quarterly basis, we expect 2022 to follow our 3-year average revenue linearity, which we outlined on Slide 22 of our supplemental deck.

  • More specifically, for the first quarter of 2022, we expect to generate revenue of $118 million to $121 million, up 17% to 19% year-to-year. We expect to generate adjusted EBITDA in the range of $16.5 million to $17 million, representing a year-over-year increase of 27% to 31%. In terms of KPIs, we expect a typical seasonal decrease in sales customer count from Q4 to Q1, but anticipate growth of 20 to 25 scale customers for the full year.

  • Overall, we expect the same growth and margin factors laid out in our Zeta 2025 plan to drive our performance in 2022, while maintaining the right balance across growth, investment and profitability.

  • In summary, we believe we're building a culture of high performance and a track record of consistent and predictable execution. Zeta 2025 is galvanizing our employees, serving as a North Star for extending our product leadership, and providing a road map to ensure our execution and investment decisions serve our near- and long-term goals of emerging as the marketing cloud leader.

  • Finally, I encourage all of you to download our supplemental earnings presentation on our IR website, which details our multiyear plan. With that, let me hand the call back to the operator for David and me to take your questions. Operator?

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • The first question is from Richard Baldry from ROTH Capital.

  • Richard Kenneth Baldry - MD & Senior Research Analyst

  • Congrats on a great quarter. I was sort of curious in that path to 2025, are there areas you'd be willing to accelerate opportunistically? Or do you feel like there's a balanced approach to this. So for example, you're much more profitable than most companies grow in your pace. So would you hire faster if the right sales people came in? Or does that stress the ability to bring in people in the marketing ecosystems, et cetera, that need to support them?

  • David A. Steinberg - Co-Founder, Chairman of the Board & CEO

  • So Richard, I'll jump in on that. First of all, thank you. Always great to hear from you. I would say even with our profitability, we have publicly stated that we've invested over $250 million over the last few years in research and development and our go-to-market strategy. And quite frankly, because of our new sales motion, we're seeing sales reps become profitable with in many cases, within 6 months of starting work with us.

  • So I don't see any reason that the 2 in the Zeta Marketing Platform have to not run parallel, meaning, we could absolutely bring on more people, we could absolutely accelerate that growth, and it would not hurt our current profitability.

  • In fact, quite frankly, we are budgeting to potentially give ourselves room because we want to say no to nothing. Meaning if there's an opportunity to bring in great people, we want to do it. If there's an opportunity to grow faster, we want to do it. And we're not going to slow that growth.

  • All we're trying to do is put a real benchmark out there. The interesting thing is, just so you know, this plan started in 2020. It is an internal plan that Steve Gerber and I launched in 2020 to get to $1 billion a year by 2025. And Chris and the team have helped us to accelerate it, although I will tell you, we are ahead of where we expected to be at this point when we started in 2020. Chris?

  • Christopher E. Greiner - CFO

  • Yes. I think, Rich, we were -- we wanted to be very, very mindful of the different KPIs we provided the supplemental deck as all of those laid out, a key one that's tied to our investment is around sales capacity. So if you look at what we're counting on to go from 100 quota carriers that we ended 2021 to the roughly 250 by the end of 2025, it would imply right around a 25% CAGR. Whereas over the last couple of years, we've averaged north of 30%.

  • So trying to leave ourselves room in all the metrics from what we've traditionally executed to versus what's relied upon. But as David said, we believe we can continue to invest in sales and marketing, invest in innovation and get efficient on our cost of revenue line as well as our G&A line.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from DJ Hynes from Canaccord Genuity.

  • David E. Hynes - Analyst

  • Congrats on the strong results here. And super helpful color with the Zeta 2025 and all the drivers there, Chris. So thanks for doing that. David, one for you, just I want to ask about what kind of opportunities you're seeing with agency partners and how they may influence kind of your reach in the go-to-market model?

  • David A. Steinberg - Co-Founder, Chairman of the Board & CEO

  • Well, DJ, thanks. I would start by saying that 10 years ago, when we were really building the formation of what was Zeta today, I had a very, very poorly put together a thesis on what was going to happen to the agency ecosystem. And quite frankly, for as many things as we called right, that was one that we called wrong. We have now heavily invested.

  • I would say I am spending a disproportionate percentage of my personal time working with the holding companies to help them. And it's really interesting because when you look at solving problems, which is ultimately what we're trying to do with our software and our data, what we have found is a lot of the agency holding companies just can't get the people to grow at the rates they're still growing. So we're stepping in and saying, listen, not only are we an alternative platform to some of the platforms you're using now, we're able to do it in such an efficient and effective way.

  • It requires 80% less people to operate the Zeta Marketing Platform with the Zeta Data Cloud, all put together in one place versus if they're going to use one of our competitors. So we are starting to see some meaningful traction there. I think, quite frankly, it was one of the reasons you saw the sizable beat in the fourth quarter.

  • And the great thing is, you're simultaneously seeing a pretty material reduction. I think the exact percentage was 590 basis points down in cost of goods sold in the quarter. So you're seeing the business firing on all cylinders right now. And as the software businesses are growing faster than other businesses, and you saw the platform business go from 60% on platform to 77% on platform. You're really starting to see the cost of goods sold go down even in an environment where we're working very closely and growing rapidly with the agency holding companies.

  • David E. Hynes - Analyst

  • Yes. Yes. It makes a ton of sense. And then maybe a follow-up. I don't know if it's better for you, David or Chris. But just thinking about the 2025 targets, I mean clearly, you kind of gave us the underpinnings that you can get there organically. But how do you think about M&A, maybe turbocharging those efforts? I mean, historically, you guys have been pretty acquisitive. So would love to just kind of get like a high-level philosophy on how you think about that.

  • Christopher E. Greiner - CFO

  • Yes. DJ, I'll take it, and David can certainly add color, just given the company's historical expertise on it. So certainly, it is an organic plan. Our focus is on continuing to identify great new types of first-party data, great engineers, great sales talent, which could lead us to small tuck-in aqua hire type scenarios, but nothing transformational by any stretch assumed in our 2025 model or 2022 guidance.

  • David A. Steinberg - Co-Founder, Chairman of the Board & CEO

  • Yes. And quite frankly, I think that we have -- as I like to joke, we've done 16 deals in 14 years. I think it's highly probable we'll do a 17th. But the deals we're doing, as you've seen from a size perspective, not only are they really small, they are businesses that we believe we can grow rapidly and transform them into product services or data ecosystems for our existing customers. So we feel like we're really well positioned to continue to do the type of deals we've been really good at. But I do want to say again because I don't want it to be lost, the 2025 plan is an organic plan. If we were to do continued M&A, we would get to that $1 billion in revenue sooner.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Ryan MacDonald from Needham.

  • Ryan Michael MacDonald - Senior Analyst

  • Congrats on a great quarter. David, first one for you. You've really talked about, I guess, since the IPO of improving the market awareness for the Zeta platform and the functionality and you since added partnership with Dun & Bradstreet and Snowflake and had some improvements around getting into the Forrester report. I'm just curious how these partnerships or of intense targeting is translating to sort of more deal visibility and perhaps with the help of the partners, how that's translating to win rates versus what you've historically seen?

  • David A. Steinberg - Co-Founder, Chairman of the Board & CEO

  • First of all, thank you and really, really good question, not that the others weren't. But the reality is that, that's one of the reasons you really saw the fourth quarter beat by such a handed amount, and we increased 2022 and felt really comfortable putting out the 2025 plan. If you look at the big transformational moves to our brand last year, whether we like the initial outcome or not, the IPO was transformational as it related to our brand, Zeta Live was transformational, where we had 3,000 thought leaders and clients show up.

  • We're already planning ZETA Live for later this year, and we think it's going to be substantially bigger. Signing partnerships with Don & Bradstreet and Snowflake, these are just major moves in the marketplace. We -- I believe a couple of quarters ago, we publicly said that we closed over 50% of the engagements we got invited to participate in from a sales perspective. What I would tell you was quite frankly, we would have liked to get more at bats, really, I'd rather close 40% of twice the RFPs than 50% of where we were. In the fourth quarter, we saw more RFPs than we've ever seen in any quarter ever by a lot, and none of it even translated into revenue in that quarter. So I think once again, we feel like all of these transformational events have led to the numbers and the results and the guidance. Chris?

  • Christopher E. Greiner - CFO

  • No, nothing here. Yes.

  • Ryan Michael MacDonald - Senior Analyst

  • Awesome. And then Chris, maybe a follow-up for you in terms of how we should think about 2022 guidance. and for gross margins? Obviously, a really strong year of expansion in '21. I think you had talked previously about a cadence of trying to focus on 100 basis points of improvement each year. Is this something that you think is achievable as you think of the 2022 guidance here?

  • Christopher E. Greiner - CFO

  • Yes, we do, Ryan. And certainly sticking to that at least 100 on the COGS line. Obviously, we well exceeded that in 2021. The model even going out farther to 2025 would even imply a slightly -- I think it's right around 65-ish basis points of expansion. So still very much committed to the 100 basis points that David mentioned, continuing to be tied to continuing to drive a positive mix shift to the direct platform. So just really pleased with the progress on that front.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Arjun Bhatia from William Blair.

  • Arjun Rohit Bhatia - Analyst

  • Congrats on a great quarter, guys. I want to maybe tack on to DJ's earlier question around not necessarily M&A, but maybe how the product and the Zeta platform looks like in 2025? Do you feel that you have all the pieces in place to get you to $1 billion? Or are we looking at pay additional innovation, additional changes to the platform, not minor changes, but large structural changes that might be needed to get you there? Or do you feel confident with what you have. And then Chris, a follow-up for you on the 2025 vision. Maybe just -- is there a linearity that we should assume that 2022 CAGR is it going to be higher growth upfront and maybe closer to low 20s later on? How should we think about that?

  • David A. Steinberg - Co-Founder, Chairman of the Board & CEO

  • Do you want to take the second part first? Should I take the first part first.

  • Christopher E. Greiner - CFO

  • Yes. I am older than you.

  • David A. Steinberg - Co-Founder, Chairman of the Board & CEO

  • That is true. Arjun, I would tell you that we could put $10 billion in revenue through the Zeta Marketing platform this week. It is an infinitely scalable platform that over the last 5 years, we fully re-architected, rolled out and built. And as you know, we've moved from sort of the -- I would joke the laggard category to the leader in the leader category with Forrester, really putting artificial intelligence and data at the absolute heart as native to the Zeta Marketing Platform.

  • Now the beauty of the platform itself is that it is activation agnostic. As we roll out new activation methodologies or only criteria is we want to keep them on platform from a margin perspective. Once again, you saw us go from 60% on platform to 77% on platform.

  • I think we've given long-term guidance to get that upwards of 80. But as new activation methodologies are created, augmented reality, virtual reality, how the blockchain begins to play into marketing, how tokenization and gamification ultimately begin to change the way the marketing ecosystem operate. The Zeta Marketing Platform is already built to integrate into them, which is not to say there might not be little tweaks that have to happen to incorporate blockchain or gamification or crypto.

  • But today, we could turn on augmented reality, virtual reality. It's really a question as to how does that market mature. And one of the bets we made when we made the decision to completely re-architect the platform was to really stay agnostic and not make an all-in bet on one platform or another, which is why we chose never to use Apple's IDFA and why we chose not to use a third-party cookie to identify people or measure marketing campaigns over the Internet. Because I didn't want to be dependent on another company to operate our company, and I will tell you that the Zeta Marketing Platform is fully ready for what comes next. Chris?

  • Christopher E. Greiner - CFO

  • Arjun on the linearity point in the most immediate term. So for 2022, if you haven't had a chance to download the supplemental on the IR website yet. On Slide 22, we actually provide the in-year expected linearity of revenue based upon our 3-year historical average. Now zooming out, which was your question, for our model purposes, we've assumed an even rate of growth around 22%.

  • So if you look at our top line CAGR from '19 to 2021, it was right at 22%. We've modeled the same out for '21 through '22 through '25. And on the bottom line, we've actually enjoyed twice as high a rate of growth of around 61% from '19 to '21 than what we're assuming for the out years. And that goes back to the beginning questions we got from Rich was wanting to make sure we're committed to investing in innovation, investing growth but while still able to drive margin expansion.

  • Arjun Rohit Bhatia - Analyst

  • Perfect. That's very helpful, and I appreciate all the details in the slide deck, Chris. One quick follow-up, David, if I can. You mentioned third-party is and obviously, there's been more changes in that broader ecosystem, especially with the Walled Gardens. I'm curious to what level that's coming up in customer conversations as they reason to look to a platform like Zeta that's not reliant on any of those for marketing efficacy and customer targeting.

  • David A. Steinberg - Co-Founder, Chairman of the Board & CEO

  • I would tell you, first of all, a very intuitive question. Every conversation we have involves that conversation at this point. Every RFP we submit, talks about it and every engagement with every existing client really focuses on it. And I know we talk about going from 347 to 355 scaled customers. But if you look at the revenue per customer, that to me is really the interesting story. Where you're seeing the ARPU per customer begin to really scale, and that's because they're moving what they've spent with other companies that are not able to do where the puck is going to us. And that's a trend that we think will continue.

  • Listen, I don't want to sort of get too focused on what the very large tech platforms are doing. But I think it's fairly safe to say they are consolidating their own marketplaces.

  • And as they consolidate, I think marketers want an open opportunity to work in the part of the Internet that is not fully controlled by one player or another, which, by the way, then begins to suck up additional margin from our clients. So not only are clients talking to us about our ability to do this, they're really excited by the ability to manage their marketing at upwards of a 50% efficiency versus working with other marketers. So -- and a lot of that is directly because we're able to work in the open web and quite frankly, we're able to work in many of the walled gardens as well. And like most of us, we cooperate with them as often as we do not.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Stan Zlotsky from Morgan Stanley.

  • Unidentified Analyst

  • This is Elizabeth on for Stan. Congrats on the quarter. I had a question on the 2025 plan. The 355 scaled customers this year with 100 sales heads implies about 3.5 accounts per person in fiscal '21. And when we fast forward to fiscal '25, the plan implies about 1.8.

  • So my question is, what drives that contraction? Is it any sort of increased complexity in requiring more sales heads to support customers? Or is that just a level of conservatism?

  • David A. Steinberg - Co-Founder, Chairman of the Board & CEO

  • Well, Elizabeth, you're assuming we closed every customer we've ever with this year, which is a pretty poor assumption. So when you look at the average customer tenure, the average customer has been with us for over 3 years. So you can't just take that one screenshot and then extrapolate it and divide it by the number of sales reps. I would also point out we doubled our number of sales reps throughout the year. So I don't see it as a contraction. I see it as, quite frankly, conservatism as we look at the model and we fully believe that we will be able to continue our strategy of putting out results that we feel that we can beat and then raise from.

  • Christopher E. Greiner - CFO

  • Elizabeth, just from a model perspective, I think it's important to take into consideration that about half of our sellers today. And you could assume a similar mix going out to 2025 are hunters and farmers. So obviously, it's the hunters that are going out and closing new scaled customers and is the farmers that are the ones that are charged with starting small and getting bigger.

  • And if you had a chance to kind of dig through the transcript or look at some of the supplemental earnings materials, I think one of the areas that the company has excelled since we put the focus of a hunter farmer is growing those large customers. So for example, we mentioned in the call a 43% increase, now up to 97 scaled customers doing over $1 million per year in revenue with us.

  • That's the manifestation of growing the number of channels per. So we've gone from 1.2 to 1.4 at the end of 2020 to now 1.9. In fact, if you look even deeper within that metric, in 2019, 80% of our scaled customers were using one channel. We've now gotten that down to about half. So all of this is leading to the ARPU growth, which is, I think, the other part of the Zeta 2025. So while the count assumes about a 5% CAGR over the next 4 years, we're assuming about a 15% CAGR on ARPU, both below what we've been driving.

  • So back to David's kind of last point that he closed with, look, we want to be conservative. That holds true for our model. It also holds true, by the way, for 2022, building that track record of consistent execution.

  • Operator

  • Next question is from Koji Ikeda from Bank of America.

  • Koji Ikeda - VP & Research Analyst

  • I wanted to ask another question on the 2025 rev target, the $1 billion here, doing the math, 450 customers, $2.1 million in annual ARPU. I guess that is a pretty big increase in the annual ARPU from where we are today. I mean, I guess, what gives you the confidence in that sort of ARPU will expand from here?

  • Christopher E. Greiner - CFO

  • Yes. So if you look at the ARPU rate of growth, right? So as you pointed out, we'd be at $2.1 million per in 2025 compared to the $1.2 million we're at today. So that's about a 14% CAGR. We've grown north of almost 20% from a -- on a CAGR basis over the last couple of years. So we see ourselves continuing to drive the number of channels used per scale customer. We're at about 1.9 today. Our superscale customers, those that are greater than $1 million, are already north of 2, and we see that getting to 4. So I think the combination of adding more farmers continuing to be able to drive more of our scaled customers using of larger number of channels. And by the way, still 90% of our scaled customers are only using Zeta for one of the 3 use cases we offer today. So a significant amount of white space even from that dimension of growing our existing customer set. That on top of the newest deals we've been signing have been coming in at a much larger average revenue per. That's a combination of them being multiyear deals, but also out of the gate selling more channels on the platform.

  • Koji Ikeda - VP & Research Analyst

  • Got it. Got it. And then just one follow-up, kind of adding on to a previous question on the QBRs here. So maybe help us understand the sales motion here and understanding why do you guys need to add so many sales reps, but not that many new scaled customers, right? It's kind of going from 355 to maybe 450 plus to get to that $1 billion target. But really increasing the sales reps 2.5x here over the next few years. So could you help us understand why so many reps? Are they mostly farmers here? Or why do you need so many reps to just add kind of only 100 customers from here?

  • David A. Steinberg - Co-Founder, Chairman of the Board & CEO

  • Well, first of all, I want to say I think we're going to add a lot more customers than that, just so we're all on the same page. But we are in a position now where if we can get a sales rep to break even in the first 6 to 12 months, we want to add as many of them as we possibly can, and we want to scale the business as fast as we can.

  • So I think that, yes, on paper, it looks like we're adding a lot of bodies to not specifically add a lot of enterprise customers. But I think what you're going to see in reality is probably more customers and the ARPU in a similar place. But I think a lot of it is -- right now, we've got the margin to invest. We believe we can hit our operating margin expansion plans with this headcount increase. And I think with the amount we want to continue to grow, it's a good investment to do that. Chris?

  • Christopher E. Greiner - CFO

  • The other thing I'd add Koji is that we want to continue to be data-driven like we've been, right? We've been very transparent in our sales productivity metrics, which have continued to be very strong. But just to bring kind of it to life why we believe we need incremental sales capacity. Not only are we investing more in brand awareness, not only are we investing more in a generation, our quota carriers have been significantly adding to the pipeline because of our investment in the sales development rep function. So if you zoom out our hunters are carrying roughly 20 deals per in their pipeline today.

  • That's too many. That's just way too many deals for one individual to chase at the same time. So I think we want to strike a good balance of, again, investment, profitability but making sure that our quota carriers have the right amount of opportunities that they can go close versus not to get everything in their pipeline.

  • Operator

  • Next question is from Phil Winslow from Credit Suisse.

  • Philip Alan Winslow - MD & Software Analyst

  • I just wanted to focus on the channels per scaled customer. As you mentioned, it went up to 1.9 from 1.2 in just a couple of years ago. Can you just give us a sense for sort of what's inflecting what's the feedback you're getting from customers? And then obviously, the path that you gave 2025 is approximately 4. Just kind of help us what's been inflecting and then how are you thinking about that in the context of 2025?

  • Christopher E. Greiner - CFO

  • Yes. Great question, Phil. Good to hear from you. For us, if you kind of look at the revenue growth on major channels. So I think about major channel, it's messaging, it's social, it's site optimization, it's CTV, all growing double digits and have been growing double digits. What we've been successful at is leading with the first channel, and that could the e-mail. It could be something in the programmatic universe.

  • But very quickly, following on the connected TV with display video. We've accelerated our sales motion from the time for the first channel and the ability to attribute our work to an ROI and then a very fast follow. And kind of going back to I think the growth we've seen. If you look at the slide in the supplemental, you set those customers that are still with us in that first year, there's an average revenue per around $700,000. Our ability to get them to 3x that, if you kind of zoom out those in the scaled customer universe that are 3 or more years with us have an average revenue per 1.7. So I think it's continuing to hone the farming sales motion, the upselling and the cross-selling, which we're doing great.

  • We just think we can do even better in getting to 4. But all channels are resonating well. I think it more points back to the time to show the ROI and a very fast follow on the second sale.

  • Philip Alan Winslow - MD & Software Analyst

  • Got it. And then just one follow-up to that. There have been some recent surveys, in fact, just one from Gartner today about pretty distinct changes in shifts and just the efficacy of different marketing channels. The fact that, to your point, that data offers multiple that you can consolidate on, are you starting to hear that resonate with customers just like as you mentioned with IDFA, you're just seeing sort of variability in the efficacy of different channels?

  • David A. Steinberg - Co-Founder, Chairman of the Board & CEO

  • Yes, I couldn't agree with you more. It's -- I think some of it is what's going on in the wider ecosystem. Some of it is the changes that are coming. And some of it is just the focus on efficiency as clients move from analog to digital. But what I really want to make clear, Phil, is that the Zeta ID number can identify an individual across any digital channel.

  • So our ability to have a high level of efficiency in messaging, social, mobile, display, online video, CTV, addressable TV goes across the entire methodology. And it is, without question, one of the reasons you saw us overperform in the fourth quarter and why we felt comfortable raising the goals for 2022 and out. I think to your point, it's becoming table stakes. Whereas 2 or 3 years ago, it was just becoming a conversation. Now it's everybody wants to talk about it. And it's really where the puck is going. It's almost where the puck is and at the same time. So it's been very impactful to our business.

  • Operator

  • Next question is from Ryan MacWilliams from Barclays.

  • Ryan Patrick MacWilliams - Research Analyst

  • Happy to hear about the strong EBITDA margin guidance through 2025. I think that message of profitability-focused growth is now (inaudible) with investors more than ever. You just called out kind of your growth rates year-over-year against the presidential election. Chris, just going forward for this year's guidance, anything baked in for the midterm elections in your revenue guide?

  • Christopher E. Greiner - CFO

  • We think of it around 20% to 30% of what we saw in 2020, is how we have it factored in. And you'd expect kind of a heavy part of that being again in September and in October of this year.

  • David A. Steinberg - Co-Founder, Chairman of the Board & CEO

  • But I want to be clear, the midterms are not anywhere near as impactful. It's almost like just adding a few extra customers.

  • Ryan Patrick MacWilliams - Research Analyst

  • Excellent. And then, David, I know you expect to close every customer that you come into contact with in a quarter. Maybe we'll hold you that to next year. But last quarter, you mentioned some strong initial wins with Opportunity Explorer. Anything to call out there? Or are you seeing continued momentum of that product?

  • David A. Steinberg - Co-Founder, Chairman of the Board & CEO

  • Yes. So I am disappointed, Ryan, if I don't close everybody I pitch. That is true. What -- what I would say is we publicly announced 2 quarters ago that we had closed over half of the initiatives we were invited to be in. I would tell you that we closed even greater than that last quarter. So we're starting to really see the messaging back to one of the earlier questions, it used to be when we would talk about what we could do, people would sort of look at us like how can you do that? There was a bit of disbelief.

  • Now when they hear the 34% of the Fortune 100 use us, and they see that we're a publicly traded company on the New York Stock Exchange, and they see the logos that are associated with, it actually makes it even easier to close the deal. And it's been really rewarding to see that. I would tell you, I am so incredibly proud of our Zeta people and the work that they're doing behind the scenes. It's interesting because I would tell you that as of last quarter, I touch less than 1% of our sales channel. 99% of the deals that we closed are being done through the sales factories that Steve Gerber has built with Chris Greiner.

  • And I'm occasionally trotted out when they need somebody to close normally if I'm doing 1%. There's a -- I like to joke, there's a lot of wine, a lot of stake and a lot of revenue involved. But the reality is that the factories themselves are what are driving the business, and we've really made a very successful shift from what was an entrepreneurial-led sales motion to what is today a more factory-driven sales motion. And as I look out 3 years to getting to that $1 billion plus in revenue, I feel like we've never been better positioned to do that.

  • Christopher E. Greiner - CFO

  • I think, Ryan, something that has held true from last quarter, which was new, but we called it out is Opportunity Explorer has been and continues to be a very effective land tool, typically in a pilot. But more often than not, that Opportunity Explorer can be a 7-figure leader of a sales process. That, in addition to the fact that of the deals we closed through OE, we continue to hold to about 1/3 of them being cross-sell and upsell and the balance being with new customers. So those data points that we highlighted last quarter continue to hold true, and we'd expect to continue to be true over the next several quarters and years.

  • Scott Schmitz - SVP of IR

  • Operator, I think we have time for -- sorry, operator, I think we have time for one more question.

  • Operator

  • The next question -- the last question is from Brian Schwartz from Oppenheimer.

  • Ari Max Friedman - Research Analyst

  • This is Ari Friedman subbing in for Brian Schwartz. And congrats on the quarter. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about the competitive landscape and what you've seen coming into 2022? And if you ever see experienced management vendors when you go out for RFP.

  • David A. Steinberg - Co-Founder, Chairman of the Board & CEO

  • Well, thanks for joining, Ari. So as I like to say, in 100% of the wins we had last quarter, we either beat or displace Salesforce, Oracle, Adobe or Epsilon. So we feel pretty good about our position in the competitive landscape. Now these are large companies.

  • They have very formidable teams, and they have incredible core products. In fact, all 4 them have -- well, 3 of the 4 have core products. But the reality is that as they've built their marketing clouds, they really been more of a container where they're effectively putting different businesses into that container and sort of trying to consolidate HR legal accounting and sales to the top of that silo. As we've gone to market as really the largest independent marketing cloud out there today fully bespoke for what we do with artificial intelligence and data native to the platform, which none of our competitors can say, I think it's the reason we win.

  • It's also important to note that an average of 17 companies are invited to participate in most of the RFPs that we win over half of. So it's not like we're going up against 1 or 2. As it relates to experienced managers, we don't really bump into them because we're still out there selling software, we really are bump in more to sort of the Oracle, Adobe, Salesforce, Epsilon and others that have focused heavily on marketing automation and being a marketing cloud. Chris?

  • Christopher E. Greiner - CFO

  • Thank you, David. Just as we wrap up, I know we're past time, so appreciate very's patience. Zeta is really excited about attending 2 conferences this quarter. On March 8, we'll be with Morgan Stanley in San Francisco, we'd love to be meeting with folks. And then on March 14 and 15, we'll be attending the ROTH Conference here in Laguna, California. So looking forward to that. And as always, very grateful for your time and the questions, and look forward to staying in touch with everyone. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.