Y-mAbs Therapeutics Inc (YMAB) 2024 Q3 法說會逐字稿

Good morning and welcome to Y-mAbs Therapeutics Inc third quarter conference call for 2024 at this time, all participants are in listen-only mode instruction for the question and answer session will follow the prepared remarks as a reminder, today's conference will be recorded. I will now hand it over to Y-mAbs head of IR Courtney Dugan.

Thank you operator and good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Y-mAbs third quarter, 2024 financial results conference call. We issued a press release with our results this morning before market opened. The press release and accompanying slides are available on the IR section of our website. Let me quickly remind you that the following discussion contains certain statements that are considered forward-looking statements as defined in the private securities litigation Reform Act of 1,995. Such statements include but are not limited to statements about our business model, commercialization and product distribution plans, expectations with respect to clinical trial data, expectations related to current and future clinical and preclinical studies and our research and development programs and regulatory submissions, potential regulatory marketing and reimbursement approvals, collaboration for strategic partnerships and the potential benefits thereof, expectations related to our anticipated cash, friendly and cash investment and the sufficiency of our cash resources and assumptions related there too, financial guidance and estimates for 2024 and beyond and other statements that are not historical facts because forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements due to a variety of factors including those risk factors in the company's previously filed annual report on form 10-K for the year ended December 31st 2023 and its quarterly report on form 10-Q for the quarters ended March 31st and June 30th 2024. And the company's quarterly report on form 10-Q for the quarter ended September 30th 2024 to be filed with the SEC today. I would now like to turn the call over to our President and Chief Executive Officer, Michael Rossi

Thank you Courtney. Good morning and thank you for joining us. I have with me today, our Chief Commercial Officer Sue Smith, our Chief Medical Officer, Dr Vignesh Rajah and our Chief Financial Officer Peter Pfreundschuh this morning, I will begin by reviewing key financial and operational highlights from the third quarter of 2024 including Danyelza sales performance and the clinical progress of our radiotherapy clinical programs, utilizing our self assembly disassembly free targeted radio immune therapy or so of print technology platform. Next, she will provide details on our global Danyelza of sales in the third quarter. Vignesh will then provide updates around our ongoing naxitamab clinical trials. Then Peter will review our third quarter 2024 financial performance, our cash resources and reiterate our full 2024 guidance. Before we open the line for Q&A, let's begin with the key highlights for the third quarter of 2024. Starting with Danyelza. Danyelza, the brand name for a humanized anti GD two therapy naxitamab is FDA approved for the treatment of Children aged one year and older with relapsed refractory high risk neuroblastoma in the bone or bone marrow, neuroblastoma continues to be the most common cancer in infants and the third most common cancer in Children. Danyelza is specifically designed for Children who have had an incomplete response to induction or relapse therapy and also have disease in the bone and or bone marrow while designated as an outpatient therapy. Danyelza can also be administered in the inpatient setting depending on the specific needs of the child. We are nearing the four year mark since the commercial launch of Danyelza in the US. Despite some of the headwinds around competition, we saw from the second quarter carry into the third quarter this year, our overall commercial progress since launch back in 2021 shows encouraging continued progress. In terms of the number of sites we are able to reach and the patients we are able to treat with Danyelza. In the third quarter, we added three new US, Danyelza accounts and saw a 5% increase in Danyelza's demand compared to the second quarter of this year. This signals to us increasing physician adoption of Danyelza across both new and existing accounts and more patients having access to this important anti GD two therapy. Our team continues to drive important initiatives around direct to parent education and patient advocacy efforts. With the goal of thoroughly understanding the current gaps in patient care and increasing awareness of Danyelza as an important treatment option for Children with relapse refractory high risk neuroblastoma. To achieve a complete response and remission, you will hear more from sue on specifics around Danyelza performance across our US and ex US markets shortly. In the third quarter, we achieved total net revenue of $18.5 million down 10% from the same period in 2023. The decrease was due to a decline in net product revenues in both the US and our ex US markets in the quarter. In addition to a half million dollar in licensing revenue recorded in the third quarter of 2023. For the first nine months of the year, we achieved total net revenue of $61.2 million. Relatively consistent with the same period in 2023. We had several corporate updates in the quarter that support our continued global commercial and indication expansion efforts. We are thrilled to have received notification of the accepted patent extension for Danyelza US 9,315,585. Last month, our US patent will now expire February 5th, 2034 extended from June 20th 2031. In the third quarter we entered into a lease agreement for a future Y-mAbs headquarters in Princeton, New Jersey. We expect the construction of the premises will be completed in the first half of 2025 and the lease will run for 10 years and nine months from the completion date. Earlier this week, we announced that we have entered an exclusive license agreement and distribution agreement with Noble Pharma for the development and commercialization of Danyelza in Japan. If approved in the region, we received an upfront payment of $2 million which will be recorded in the fourth quarter of this year. Under the terms of the agreement, we are entitled to receive up to $31 million in product and commercial milestone payments in addition to profit sharing on the commercial sales of Danyelza if successfully approved and commercialized in Japan. Japan represents an important Asia region for Danyelza and we look forward to partnering with Noble Pharma and expanding access to Danyelza to the region if approved there.

Our partner TR Farm launched the Danyelza Name Patient Program in Turkey in the third quarter of 2024. We're very pleased with how the launch is progressing and look forward to providing further updates in future quarters. In addition, with our Latin American partner Adium, we plan to submit a regulatory filing for marketing approval of Danyelza in Argentina later this year overall, we remain confident in our US commercial strategy and trajectory in the continued XUS expansion of Danyelza to fill important gaps in the treatment of Children with relapsed or refractory high risk neuroblastoma.

Let's now shift to our solid tumours programs starting with our phase one trial, evaluating the safety and tolerability of GD two (inaudible) for the treatment of GD two positive solid tumours. This is a basket trial looking at small cell lung cancer, sarcomas and malignant melanomas. In the fourth quarter, we opened cohort six to include adult patients 16 years of age or above with high risk neuroblastoma. As a reminder, this phase one dose escalation single arm multicentre safety study has three parts. Part A which we are currently in is structured to demonstrate the safety profile of the protein. While it explores dose finding for the GD two soda molecule and testing of the dose intervals of 2 to 5 days between the protein and the lutetium Dota payload, Part B aims to determine the optimal dose of Lutetia 177 Dota and Part C will evaluate the safety and initial signs of efficacy using repeat dosing. Today, we have six sites open, we have a total of 20 patients in part A of this trial. We have completed cohorts one through five using a radioactive payload of up to 200 millicuries of lutetium and 2 to 5 day interval between soda protein and Palo the initial blood pharmacokinetic profile of the construct in these patients dosed with 0.3 mg per kilogram, 1 mg per kilogram and 3 mg per kilogram of protein appears to match our preclinical models. In the terms of clearance data and blood PK profiles from patients are comparable and supportive of the current dose interval between two and five days.

We continue to be encouraged by what we have seen so far. To date no patients in the trial have experienced any dose limiting toxicities and there have been no instances of treatment related serious adverse events based on the spec CT scans and PK activity we have seen to date. We believe we have demonstrated proof of concept in humans that GDT soda can both find and bind to tumors. It is important to note that these early data are not complete and not necessarily indicative of a full results or ultimate success of the trial or the sort of development program we're on track to complete part A of this phase one study by the end of this year and we'll look to present a full data set from part A in the first quarter of 2025 in the anticipated data readout from part A of the trial. Our objective is to demonstrate the safety profile of the protein and determine the optimal timing to administer the radionuclide. All of which will inform Part B we also plan to show additional scan images and PK data. Because we elected to open 1/6 cohort to include adults with neuroblastoma. We're awaiting the full data from part A before filing an IND for GD two sort of phase one trial in paediatric neuroblastoma.

Our second (inaudible) program is CD 38 (inaudible) which we are first studying in the treatment of non Hodgkin's lymphoma focusing on B cell and T cell lymphoma. This is our first sort of program in circulating tumours our plan phase one follows the design comparable to our GD two S of phase one trial, which you can see here. We have selected the first six sites and activated two sites and expect to dose the first patient by the end of 2024. in addition, we look forward to highlighting preclinical CD 38 sada data in a poster presentation at the American Society of Haematology annual meeting on December 7th in San Diego. The abstract titled DD 38 Sada, a self assembling and disassembling Bispecific Fusion Protein for two step free targeted radioimmunotherapy of non Hodgkin's lymphoma is available on the ASH website. We are very excited for the potential of sada to fill much needed gaps for patients across a range of cancers and potentially other serious diseases and we continue to believe in its potential advantages in manufacturing administration and logistics with traditional radio pharmaceuticals. We look forward to providing further updates on our(inaudible) programs going forward across both our Danyelza and inside of print platforms. We are committed to advancing a potential generation, new generation of therapies through clinical development, aimed at improving outcomes and long term quality of life for patients and their families. I will now pass the call over to Sue Smith to provide further colour on global Danyelza of sales for the third quarter of 2024.

Thank you, Mike and good morning everyone. Despite seeing some of the same headwinds we saw in the second quarter carrying into the third quarter. We're pleased with the overall commercial progress of Danyelza since the initial commercial launch in the US and across our ex US markets. Danyelza is an important anti GD two therapy for the physician toolbox in the treatment of patients with relapsed refractory high risk neuroblastoma in the bone or bone marrow. Its key unique features including outpatient administration and response in bone and or bone marrow makes Danyelza an important treatment option for patients and caregivers alike. In the third quarter of 2024 total, US Danyelza and net product revenues were 15.3 million representing a 5% decrease compared to the same period in 2023 primarily driven by a change in estimate from Medicaid claims. While we encountered continued competition from the launch of a new market entrant for maintenance therapy in addition to ongoing clinical trial activity, we still saw increases in key performance indicators. A total of 68 accounts have now used Danyelza around the US since its initial launch in 2021 with three new accounts added in the third quarter of 2024. Danyelza estimated total share of the US anti GD two market remains steady at approximately 15% as of September 30th 2024. We're excited to see physician utilization of Danyelza continue to grow 34 health practitioners started patients on Danyelza in the nine months ended September 30th 2024 with seven physicians starting treatment on two or more patients. Since launch, a total of 113 health care providers have prescribed Danyelza and 34 of those have started treatment on two or more patients. Our dedicated US commercial sales team continues to receive positive health care provider feedback on Danyelza through ongoing customer interactions. In addition, we continue to see institutional adoption of Danyelza which has been added to two hospital formularies in the third quarter of 2024 bringing the total since launch to 48 hospital formularies as of September 30th 2024. Now turning to our ex US commercial progress ex US. Our third quarter, 2024 Daniels and net product revenues were $3.1 million a decrease of 19% compared to the third quarter of 2023. The decrease was primarily driven by a decline in volume from our WEP patient access program in Europe which had an initial stocking order in the third quarter of 2023. The third quarter marked the first recorded sales in Turkey with our partner TR Farm and the second consecutive quarter of Danyelza sales in Brazil and Mexico led by our Latin American partner Adium. We expect to see additional adoption over the coming quarters and look forward to providing further updates as we learn more about market dynamics in these regions.

In Asia our partner cyclone continues to expand use of Danyelza in China and is gearing up to launch Danyelza in Hong Kong following its approval in the region last quarter. Our team is committed to finishing the year with strong fourth quarter performance of Danyelza in the US and continuing to support our ex US partners as they expand access to Danyelza across their respective regions. We are confident in the potential to position Danyelza as the anti GD two therapy of choice in relapse refractory high risk neuroblastoma in the bone and or bone marrow to both physicians and caregivers and expect to see a continued overall upward trend of sales growth over the long term. We look forward to providing further updates throughout the coming year. I will now pass the call to Vignesh.

Thank you, Sue and hello everyone. I'm pleased to provide a brief update on our ongoing investigator sponsored Naxitamab clinical trials. Let's start with Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer centres phase two clinical trial, evaluating Naxitamab in patients with second line relapsed osteosarcoma as we shared during our second quarter earnings call based on a draft abstract, our team received from MSK back in June, the trial did not meet its primary endpoint of 16 event free patients at 12 months and instead stated that there were 14 event free patients at 12 months. MSCA is expected to present this data at a medical meeting by the end of this year after which time, our team plans to analyse the full study results and evaluate the next steps in the frontline high risk neuroblastoma setting. Our partner, the beat childhood Cancer Research Consortium or BCC is leading a Multicentre phase two trial, evaluating maximum in combination with standard induction therapy for patients with newly diagnosed high risk neuroblastoma. As of the end of the third quarter, the BCC had 22 active sites and treated 11 patients with recruitment ongoing, the amended protocol for the transition to a comparison with an external control is currently being developed. We expect the trial to transition from a single arm trial design to a comparative trial with an external control arm that reflects current standard of care for induction therapy with a comparable patient population that is carefully selected and propensity score matched. Our aim for the trial is to demonstrate superiority in complete response rates at the end of induction therapy in the Naxitamab arm compared to the standard of care. In advanced breast cancer we're partnering with the Ohio state university on a phase one B trial investigating TGF beta NK cells, gym cybin and Naxitamab in patients with GD two positive metastatic breast cancer. Patient recruitment for the trial was initiated in the third quarter of 2024. As per the study design follow up for dose limiting toxicities with a combination of gym cybin and NK cells need to be completed and the persistence of NK cells in the blood needs to be confirmed before the addition of Naxitamab.

Upon the outcome of this trial, we would consider moving forward with a Multicentre phase two trial. In patients with a refractory Ewing sarcoma the Institute of Mother and Child in Poland is leading a randomized face to trial, evaluating the efficacy and safety of Naxitamab. This trial was initiated during the fourth quarter of 2023, 3 patients have been dosed with in the Naxitamab to date and recruitment is ongoing. We expect a total of 16 patients in that arm. The trial is expected to be completed in 2028. In addition, we're in discussions with the MD Anderson Cancer Centre to initiate a multicentre phase one study to evaluate the addition of Naxitamab to current standard of care in the treatment of metastatic triple negative breast cancer. The study is expected to assess the safety of this combination as well as provide an early indication of objective response rate in patients with metastatic triple negative breast cancer who have received at least one prior line of systemic therapy for metastatic disease. The study which is anticipated to start in the first quarter in 2026 will further inform us on a future phase two program in triple negative breast cancer, we believe a significant treatment gap remains in the anti GD two space in both paediatric and adult cancers. We're committed to supporting the advancement of these investigator sponsored studies through clinical development and working to unlock the untapped potential of maximum. Let me now hand the call over to Peter Pfreundschuh.

Thank you Vignesh and good morning everyone. As you heard earlier, we recorded total Danyelza and net product revenues of $18.5 million in the third quarter of 2024 representing a 7% decrease compared to $20.0 million to Danyelza net product revenues in the third quarter of 2023 primarily driven by decreased international and US revenues from a decline in us and ex US order volumes. US Danyelza net product revenues were $15.3 million and $16.1 million for the three months ended September 30th 2024 and 2023 respectively. Representing a 5% decline. The decline was primarily due to an unfavourable price mix, partially offset by increased US volume of 5% during the third quarter of 2024 compared to the third quarter of 2023. Ex US net product revenues were 3.1 million and 3.9 million for the three months ended September 30th 2024 and 2023 respectively. Representing a 19% decline. The decline was primarily driven by decreased volume from western Europe in the quarter. We received an inventory order from cyclone of 1.7 million in the third quarter but the revenue was recorded in the fourth quarter due to cut-off timing issues. Our total Danyelza net product revenues of 60.7 million for the nine months ended September 30th 2024 were relatively flat compared to 61 million for the nine months ended September 30th in 2023, we did not have licensing revenue for the three months ended September 30th 2024 we did report 0.5 million of licensing revenue in the nine months ended September 30th 2024. We also reported 0.5 million of licensing revenue for the three and nine months ended September 30th 2023. Moving to operating expenses our research and development expenses were 11.2 million and 36.8 million for the quarter and nine months ended September 30th 2024 representing decreases of 4.2 million and 4 million from 15.4 million and 40.8 million for the quarter and nine months ended September 30th 2023. Selling general and administrative expenses increased by 3.4 million and 8.5 million to 13.6 million and 42.3 million for the three and nine months ended September 30th 2024 respectively compared to the same periods in 2023. The increase in selling general and administrative expenses for the three months ended September 30th 2024 was primarily attributable to a 1.2 million increase related to our former Chief Financial Officer separation and consulting agreements and a 1.1 million increase in personnel costs inclusive of stock based compensation and 0.5 million in professional and consulting fees. The increase to selling general and administrative expenses for the nine months ended September 30th 2024 was primarily attributable to a net impact of 3.8 million related to two legal settlements that were finalized in the nine months ended September 30th 2024. As previously mentioned, the increase also includes a 1.2 million increase related to our former Chief Financial Officers Separation agreement and consulting agreement. A 1.1 million increase in personal costs inclusive of stock based compensation and 0.8 million in professional and consulting fees. We reported a net loss for the quarter ended September 30th 2024 of 7 million or negative 16¢ per basic and diluted share compared to a net loss of 7.7 million or a negative 18¢ per basic and diluted share for the quarter ended September 30th 2023.

In addition, we have reported a net loss for the nine months ended September 30th 2024 of 22.9 million or negative 52¢ per basic and diluted share as compared to a net loss of 20.4 million or a negative 47¢ per basic and diluted share for the nine months ended September 30th 2023. The decrease in net loss for the three months ended September 30th 2024 was primarily driven by decreased operating expenses and a favourable impact from foreign currency transactions partially offset by decreased product revenues, net. The increase in the net loss for the nine months ended September 30th 2024 was primarily driven by the previously mentioned two legal settlements with a net 3.8 million impact. As mentioned earlier, we ended the third quarter of 2024 with cash and cash equivalents of 68.1 million as compared to 78.6 million at year end 2023 representing a decrease of 10.5 million year-to-date. Importantly, we continue to maintain a strong balance sheet reporting 9.7 million in cash outflows for the third quarter of 2024 primarily driven by cash payments on the two previously mentioned legal settlements paid within the quarter. Turning now to our full year 2024 guidance, we reiterate our full year 2024 total net revenue guidance to be in the range between 87million and 95 million. But we expect the revenues will come in in the bottom half of that range. We continue to anticipate our operating expenses will remain in the range of between 115million and 120 million for the full year 2024 which is consistent with our prior guidance and we expect our cash investment for the full year of 2024 to remain in the range of between 15million and $20 million which is consistent with our prior guidance. With a strong balance sheet and focus strategy we believe Y-mAbs is well positioned to execute on our strategic missions and priorities and to support the delivery of multiple anticipated near term milestones. This concludes the financial update and I will turn the call back over to Mike.

Thank you for that overview, Peter. Now let's open the line for questions, operator.

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two, if you would like to remove your question from the queue for participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the start keys. One moment please while we pull for questions.

The first question is from Edgar Aguilar from BMO capital markets. Please go ahead.

Great. Thanks for taking the questions. One on Danyelza and another on the GD two side. So for Danyelza, you could talk a little bit more about the price mix dynamic in the quarter and is this something you expect to continue moving forward? And what are the potential offsets in the fourth quarter? And then on GD two side of you have, you know, no dose limiting talks those correlating to preclinical data if you could call talk through maybe the key criteria for dose selection for sort of the part B of the study. Thanks for the antibodies specifically those for the antibody specifically things.

Sure, thank you very much for that. I'll pass the first question on regarding the price mix to sue and then bring it back for the GD 2.

Thanks Mike, thanks for the question. So we took an approximate $1.5 million charge in Q3 for Medicaid related claims for both period and out of the period and so, due to that price mix, we saw a 5% decline in net revenues even in spite of having a 5% increase in files and so with the adjustment, the sales would have been up 4% for both year over year and quarter, over quarter.

Thank you, Sue. So the, the second question you had was around the protein, the optimal protein dose on our GB two. So what we've done so far through the first six cohorts is we started at the 0.3 mg per kilogram escalated up to 3 mg per kilogram and have sent back that down to 1 mg per kilogram, shortening the window and looking at an optimized window. So to move that into part B for us, it was mirroring more of the pre clinical PK data that we saw looking at the blood levels, understanding we want a dose near the neder and what we've seen so far with that is is allowing us to then focus on the 1 mg per kilogram and feel very confident that we're, narrowing that down so then there's anything additional to that.

Just to build on that. Obviously, we need to evaluate the dome in the tumour as well as the normal tissues and of course, the safety and all of this will contribute to the evaluation of the optimal dose and the dose interval.

Great. Thank you.

The next question is from Li Watsek from Cantor. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, thanks for taking our questions. I guess if you can comment on some of the swing factors for Q4 revenues as we're heading into the holidays, your confidence level of hitting that the lower end of the guide and the second question is just for GD two sada. You're looking at a number of histologist. So, wondering if you can comment on the radio sensitivity of these tumour types.

All right. Thank you, Li. For the fourth quarter guidance. I'll pass you to Pete and allow Pete to expand on that.

Well li, thanks for the question with regards to the guidance, we feel very confident that we should land within the range of 87 to $95 million. We did highlight for you as part of the earnings call that we should most probably land in the lower half of that range if you look at the third quarter results, although they were $18.5 million as reported, we did highlight for you that the cyclone sales did land in the fourth quarter so with the cyclone sales adjustment with the Medicaid adjustment and then also the noble or the timing of the noble licensing deal, we most probably would have landed actually based upon the consensus numbers just about where the consensus numbers were for the third quarter. So for the fourth quarter, we still anticipate a very strong quarter and we anticipate to land somewhere in the lower half of basically the guidance range as we laid out for you guys between 87million and $95 million, hopefully that helps you li.

And li your, your second question around the GD two S and the radio sensitivity. I'll pass that on to the Vignesh.

So just to remind everybody that the cancer that we have included in the (inaudible) study include melanoma, soft tissue sarcoma, small cell lung cancer and then the latest cohort, we added adult neuroblastoma. It's too soon to say what we've seen in terms of early indicators of sensitivity to radiation. As you know, the GD two expression levels is quite heterogeneous in these solid tumors, variations within the tumor as well as antigen density. Hence, the rationality include also adult neuroblastoma patients so as we get more data on the evaluation of the symmetry and responses will update the group here in terms of what we've seen in terms of radiation sensitivity.

The next question is from Alec Stranahan from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Hey guys, thanks for taking our questions. Just two from us. First with moving your headquarters early next year, curious to hear the latest on your approach to manufacturing and whether you'll be making additional investments here as your data assets progress through the clinic and then on the new Deal in Japan, may maybe outline how you see the commercial rollout going there and sort of the incremental time that Japan represents for Danyelza. So thank you.

Sure, thanks Alec. You know, our philosophy on manufacturing hasn't changed. We're in a unique position with both Danyelza and our sort of platform that the way our, current structure is we're able to use contract manufacturing for our proteins which allow us to rather than invest in brick and mortar, allows us to invest in the drugs themselves and similar on the sort of platform we're able to use the same network that we have for our sort of protein constructs and contract directly with isotope manufacturers for the production and caging of isotopes. So we're, doing additional work with our proprietary keys as we're looking to expand within the alpha and beta space, as well as the pet that allow us then rather than again investing in manufacturing, really invest in drug development. You know, that the second point as we look at Japan, we've got a small clinical trial to do within Japan and it'll be limited to six patients to confirm similar to what we've done in in the US in order to get that rolled out so we expect to kick that off rather shortly and increase the overall ability to to launch that product, hopefully in the second half of 25 to, to early 26. So, you know, as we move forward on that, as we look at the total addressable market, Japan is a significant health care market. But overall, you know, it's, a much smaller market than the US and we'd expect to see incremental from that, but not necessarily a very large expansion in the total addressable market.

Got it. Thanks.

The next question is from Justin Walsh from Jones trading. Please go ahead.

Hi, thanks for taking the question. I'm curious what your thoughts are on the increasing numbers of players testing pre targeting approaches and I'm specifically thinking about some pre clinical data on another approach being tested by Roche and around ONM that was at EANM adding to the groups that we're already following. So do you think that this like provides additional validation for or confidence in what you're already trying to accomplish with the Sada?

That's a good question, Justin I think as we look at this, any time you see more and more companies coming into it, it does validate what the the theory is around providing maximum dose of the tumour, minimum off target and more importantly, providing better logistics to get into shorter isotopes. So, you know, we welcome this from an intellectual point of view as well, the more smart people and smart companies you have working on this, the more likelihood you'll get more and more pre targeting products out to the patients and into the into the clinic and again, what's extremely important about that as well is leveraging the existing infrastructure to get more patients treated without having to go to specific diagnostic suites. So we welcome that opportunity. I think there's a variety of, of methods in which to do this and time will tell which is optimal, which is right and there, there are always more than one right answer. So we wish the others, you know, much success as they move forward and it really allows us then to focus on what's what we can do well and what we will do well for the patients and practitioners.

The next question is from Mike Oates from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning this is Roger on for Mike. Thanks for taking our questions. Just going back to Q3 Danyelza sales. How much of the decline would you contribute to seasonality competitors and the ongoing clinical trials? And I think you mentioned something on a change in estimate for Medicaid claims for the quarter. Can you just elaborate on that? Thank you.

Sure, Thank you very much. You know, I, guess we'll, start backwards on this and I'll, push pass it over to Pete to talk a little bit about what the Medicare looks like and what the changes are there and then we'll move over to sue talk a little bit about the volume and what we see as, as impacting that as well as potentially, what the good news is in is in the way of volume.

So good question with regards to the Medicaid element of the sales mix for the US. The reality is that the number of sites that we're selling into that have Medicaid 340k is continuing to increase a bit more relative to sites that have less of that presence in those sites and so as we got into the third quarter, we had an adjustment that was associated with both in quarter, as well as previous quarter, coming into this and so to that note, there was about a $1.5 million push down that we had to take in the quarter relative to that. So overall, we did report about 15.3 million, I think still allude to this earlier. With the 15, we're at about 16.8million. One thing that we did not really get into was there was also some timing related issues, specifically in shipments also, within quarter that slipped into the fourth quarter, that was about another $700,000 and so when you actually compare kind of where we were a year ago, third quarter at 16 1, with those adjustments, we would have landed somewhere around 17.5million and so actually, our sales overall is kind of up and that kind of correlates as you saw, we did have volume increases for the quarter. So, you know, again, there were some timing related things that fell in quarter that impacted us. But for the most part, we, it continues to reinforce our confidence with regards to kind of where the markets are, where Danyelza is so then I'll, I'll pass it over to sue for a little bit more colour here.

Thanks Pete. Thanks Mike for the question. Yeah, I think obviously, you know, our mix continues to be about 80,20 with US being about 80% of our volume and we have on all indicators, key performance indicators, grown quarter over quarter in terms of the number of physicians treating, the number of patient starts, number of physicians with two or more patients and notably, the majority of our sales is coming from high volume centres where our market share is higher than if you look at all centres together and that we believe is really coming because of our new competitive campaign, which is enabling us to really talk about differentiating our core value in being able to still attain a complete response even in heavily pre treated patients and even in patients who are no longer responding to or or have developed antibodies to prior anti GD two therapy. So that is certainly how we're going after market share of Unituxin and we've mentioned, see volume in the fourth quarter coming from China due to the timing of that large shipment that Pete talked About.

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The next question is from Jeff Jones from Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Good morning guys and thanks for taking the question. Two from us, one on Danyelza and one on Sada with respect to Cash runway which you projected into 2027. Can you highlight what studies and work is included in there amongst Danyelza and Sada? And then for the sada platform specifically, when might we hear more detail around future plans, targets selection and indication? Thanks.

Oh, thank you, Jeff. I'll pass the first part of your question on to Pete for cash runway and what we have planned and, and kind of how we're looking at that.

Yes, Jeff, good question. So previous quarters, we communicated that we have runway into 2027. We reiterated that as part of this quarter as well. Again, I would first start with our cash investment or burn for this year on a net basis relative to kind of what we, where we set out guidance. So our guidance is 15 to $20 million of investment this year over and above the proceeds, cash inflows from Danyelza. What we're saying to date and we, we issued that as part of this earnings releases. We're slightly over $10 million year-to-date on that number. We do have some favourable things coming in. That was part of the fourth quarter. We mentioned the Noble licensing deal that $2 million is coming in alongside some other things. So we're, we're well on track to the lower end of that 15 to $20 million range is kind of what we're anticipating for this year that should land us kind of in the low 60 most probably somewhere 60 to 65. I would skew more to the 65 number and then kind of as we go forward, what are anticipated views around both investment and return on Danyelza was that Danyelza would continue to see some mild growth, call it single digits to maybe a low double digit number. In other view, we get good cash flows off of Danyelza moving forward over the next number of years and then on the investment side of the equation, we anticipated that we would be investing in new sort of programs at least one or two every year. So that was kind of the, the thought process as we laid it out as is the case just most companies are going through kind of a revised operating plan cycle is at this time of year when we issue our 10-K. In March, we'll issue a new guidance for not only 2025 but also give you guys an update as to our thoughts around investment moving forward. So hopefully that helps you.

Yeah and just as a follow up to the second part of the question, we're actually right now in that process of evaluating a multitude of targets and narrowing them down to targets that really fit what we're doing here at Y-mAbs. So we're in that process and I would say in the early part of 2025 most likely first quarter, you'll see a revised priority list as well as specific timelines and what exactly we are are going to be targeting moving forward and as Pete discussed, we have plans to, you know, invest in, in several targets and bring several programs per year into the clinic. So stay tuned for that will happen in early 25.

The next question is from David Nierengarten from Wedbush Securities. Please go ahead.

Hey, thanks for taking my question. I was just wondering if you could tell us on your the dose escalation and kind of pull back. I'm going to call it back to 1 mg. Is there any for sorry, is there any differences in tumour types that drove that or tumour burden or was it just timing and, and PK like, I don't know if you could walk us through without, you know, giving us the data too early on. You know, kind of what was what you were seeing that drove you to, you know, decide or look, you know at the dose level. Thanks.

Yeah, David, that was a great question. We'll give you much more of that detail once we release it, but I'll give you the top line on this and we talked about this in the past, what we, we need to do with the radio pharmaceuticals and a pre targeting is paint the tumour and to cover those receptors without putting so much in the blood that we're taking a long time to clear it out. So we know the disassembly of is concentration dependent. So when we model the pre clinical data based on the mouse model, 1 mg was the target based on that, we had the flexibility to go up to 10 times higher than that and started at third of that. But the reality was we started at third looking at it from a safety perspective, brought it through the 1 mg and then 3x that of the 3 mg and the PK was modelling what we saw in the pre clinical. So it made sense for us to bring it back to that target level rather than go higher and extend the, the time in which we would wait for the isotope. So now it's just fine tuning that back and it had nothing to do with tumour types that had nothing to do with uptake, it had nothing to do with any of that was more of we felt that the being that the PK levels were modelling that of the, the pre clinical data that we narrow that down as a variable and, and bring it back into that range and start shortening the window again, changing one variable at a time. So we feel very good about where that is and again, it had nothing to do with any toxicity or anything else was really feeling that we had enough protein to, to paint the tumour and clear it quickly enough in the bloodstream.

The next question is from Nicole Germino from Truist Securities. Please go ahead.

Good morning thanks for taking my question. Can I have two on that? The first one, can you just talk a little bit more about the dosimetry in which organs do you expect the drug to accumulate and more? And what's the exact, what are the acceptable levels in kidney and liver?

Yeah. Nicole, that's a great question. I think when we look at this and understanding that both the sada as well as the lutetium Dota are ally eliminated, we would expect to see as far as off tumour for the kidneys in the bladder to be the highest the organ, the highest impact to any organ. For the, the second would be any kind of a liver uptake or bone marrow. We're evaluating all of that as part of the, the clinical trial. Since again, this is the first in human but I'm not right now don't have any data to share on those and what they look like and Vignesh, I don't know if there's anything from your side that you want to discuss is what our limits we're looking at as far as what we're trying to maintain below.

Yes. In addition to what you just said, what we're expecting the symmetry, absorbed dose in tumour and of course, off tumour tissues, one thing we can and we've already shared this with you in terms of the safety margins. So far, we've not seen any early indications of any safety issues, no dose limiting toxicities or treatment related, serious adverse events. But further evaluation will go and we'll share with you more results as we get through.

Okay, great and then one quick question on your target. Can you elaborate more on your target selection strategy and what are the parameters for how you're choosing your target priorities?

Yeah, we're, working through that right now. We'll lay that out as part of the, the total strategy. It's not something we're ready to disclose at this point as we're walking through the list but we are looking at many receptor modulated diseases, we're looking at unmet need as well as commercial potential so there is a significant amount of criteria we're putting into this and this will be a living document for us as we move forward and, and bring targets into the clinic, we'll be looking at the next 5 to 10 targets of how they are are positioned both clinically and commercially at that point in time and can Reprioritize as we move forward so there are several criteria and we'll outline that as we bring this entire strategy forward.

Thank you. This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Michael Rossi for closing comments.

Great. Thank you everyone for joining us today to discuss our third quarter results and continued progress. We have a strong financial foundation and continue to believe we are uniquely positioned for future growth while advancing the clinical development of our differentiated radio immune therapy platform, to potentially deliver better and safer therapeutic options and the treatment of a number of serious diseases with unmet needs, we look forward to seeing many of you at upcoming investor meetings and medical meetings throughout the winter. If we didn't get to your question, you have additional questions. We're happy to schedule time with individual investors and answer those questions at that point in time. So thank you and have a great day.

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