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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon, and welcome to the Western Union first-quarter 2016 earnings conference call.

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mike Salop, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

  • - SVP of IR

  • Thank you, Laura. On today's call Hikmet Ersek, Western Union's President and Chief Executive Officer, and Raj Agrawal, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, will discuss the Company's first-quarter 2016 results and then we will take your questions. The slides that accompany this call and webcast can be found at westernunion.com under the Investor Relations tab and will remain available after the call. Additional operational statistics have been provided in supplemental tables with our press release.

  • Today's call is being recorded and our comments include forward-looking statements. Please refer to the cautionary language in the earnings release and in Western Union's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the 2015 Form 10-K, for additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements.

  • During the call, we will discuss some items that do not conform to Generally Accepted Accounting Principals. We have reconciled those items to the most comparable GAAP measures on our website, westernunion.com, under the Investor Relations section. All statements made by Western Union officers on this call are the property of the Western Union Company and subject to copyright protection. Other than the replay noted in our press release, Western Union has not authorized and disclaims responsibility for any recording, replay, or distribution of any transcription of this call.

  • I would now like to turn the call over to Hikmet Ersek.

  • - President & CEO

  • Thank you, Mike. And good afternoon, everyone. Overall, we delivered another solid quarter to start the year, as our business continued to show resilience in the face of uneven global economic conditions. First-quarter trends were generally similar to the fourth quarter. Our consumer money transfer business posted steady results, the consumer bill payments business provided good constant currency revenue growth, and business solutions increased, as well.

  • Although the stronger dollar continued to impact reported results, total revenue increased 3% for the quarter in constant currency terms. In consumer money transfer, westernunion.com, US outbound and Germany continued to provide good growth, although we did see some softer business in the oil-dependent markets. Business solutions constant currency revenue increased 6% in the quarter, and consumer bill payments increased 12%.

  • Operating margins were a healthy 19.9% despite increases in technology investment and negative impacts from currency. We also continue to generate strong cash flow and returned over $300 million to shareholders in the quarter through dividend and share repurchases. So, the year is starting as expected.

  • As we think about the next several years, as we highlighted at our Investor Days in March, our focus is on maintaining leadership in the traditional retail money transfer business, extending leadership in digit money transfer, and leveraging our cross-border platform to serve new use cases and customer segments.

  • Our traditional retail business continues to deliver steady results and we are making progress on our global digital initiatives. A few digital examples this year include: the launch of our mobile app for westernunion.com in Italy, which will allow Android and Apple users to access our money transfer services; a refresh mobile app in the UK; a new mobile receiving service in Bangladesh, which was launched with MasterCard, bKash and BRAC bank; two new westernunion.com transaction sites in Europe, raising our total to 36 countries globally with online money transfer sending services.

  • In Western Union business solutions, we introduced WU EDGE, a new service brings buyers and sellers together on one digital B2B platform where they can easily arrange and complete cross-border invoicing and payments. The platform also provides added foreign exchange and cash management tools for users.

  • In addition, as we previously announced, we added the Viber social messaging app to our WU Connect platform this year. Viber has been in beta mode until last week. But we now added account payout capabilities and are excited to begin a full launch to build of earnest and drive usage.

  • We also remained focused on expanding our paying options and account payout network, and initiating more corridor connections to bank accounts.

  • I have spent a lot of time over the last several weeks traveling throughout Europe and Asia, including attending the European Money 2020 conference in Copenhagen. This trip reinforced my belief in the importance of the end-to-end capabilities that we are seeing in providing cross-border money movement, and in our ability to leverage our assets for more funding and funds out to use cases.

  • I saw an example of this in China, where we work with ChinaPay to offer fast cross-border payments for business customers in the country. We also provide many other digital services in China with Western Union money transfer available on several online and mobile banking platforms. Our collaborations in China and all other examples I have mentioned further convince me that our services can provide very valuable connections to partners, whether they are financial institutions, social media or messaging companies, mobile operators, or more traditional retailers.

  • So, we see many opportunities, and I believe we have the right strategies to address them. Thus far, in 2016, our business performance has been solid and we are on track with our full-year expectations, while we continue to make progress on our long-term strategies.

  • Now to discuss the first-quarter results in more detail, I would like to turn the call over to Raj.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Thank you, Hikmet. Overall, we are pleased with the first-quarter results. First-quarter revenues of $1.3 billion increased 3% on a constant currency basis compared to the prior-year period, while reported revenues declined 2% due to the impact of a stronger US dollar. The impact of currency translation net of hedge benefits reduced first-quarter revenue by approximately $57 million compared to the prior-year period.

  • In the consumer-to-consumer segment, constant currency revenues increased 1% in the quarter, and reported revenues declined 2%, while transactions grew 3%. C2C constant currency revenue growth was driven by westernunion.com, and continued strength in US outbound, particularly to Mexico and Latin America.

  • Total C2C cross-border principal declined 2% compared to the prior-year period, or increased 1% constant currency. Principal per transaction was down 5%, or down 3% in constant currency terms, with the decline driven by several oil-related markets. The spread between the C2C transaction growth and the revenue decline in the quarter was approximately 5 percentage points, including a negative 3% impact from currency.

  • We continue to view the global pricing environment as very stable. The impact of net price decreases was 2% in the quarter, but this was primarily related to Argentina where we took significant reductions on our outbound pricing in response to the economic and currency deterioration in the country, and from the actions we took in our US domestic money transfer business in April of last year. Outside of these two actions, the pricing impact would have been neutral in the quarter and mix was also neutral.

  • Turning to the regions, as we did last year, due to the significant fluctuations in foreign exchange rates, I will be referring to constant currency movements as I discuss individual country contributions to the regional results. Also, as previously mentioned, we have made a change to our C2C regional reporting effective in the first quarter. We are now including the westernunion.com business within the regional numbers, splitting the revenue 50/50 between the send and receive regions, which is consistent with how we treat the retail business. The comparable quarterly numbers for 2015 can be found in our earnings release attachments and we will also continue to report westernunion.com revenue and transaction growth rates as supplemental information.

  • In the quarter, North America revenue grew 3%, or 5% on a constant currency basis, while transactions increased 7%. The region benefited from strong growth in US outbound to Mexico and Latin America, with our Mexico business again outpacing the market based on the latest Banco de Mexico data for the first quarter. Total domestic money transfer revenue was flat in the quarter on transaction growth of 5%.

  • In the Europe and CIS region, revenue declined 3% and was flat on a constant currency basis, while transactions increased 3%. Similar to previous quarters, Germany delivered strong growth, but the positive impact was offset by continued weakness in Russia.

  • In the Middle East and Africa region, revenue declined 4%, or 1% constant currency, and transactions were down 3%. Low oil prices are affecting the region's results, as many Gulf states have experienced slowdowns in investment and hiring. The main declines were from Nigeria, where the inbound business has been affected by a wide divergence between market exchange rates and official rates, resulting from oil's impact on the economy. Saudi Arabia revenues increased, but trends were not as strong as previous quarters.

  • In the Asia-Pacific region, revenue was down 4%, or down 1% constant currency, while transactions decreased 4%, primarily due to continued weakness in the Philippines. In addition, some receive markets in Asia have been negatively impacted by lower remittances from the oil-producing countries.

  • Revenue in the Latin American and Caribbean region was down 5%, but increased 1% constant currency. Transactions increased 11% in the quarter. Revenue growth was driven by strong inbound business from the US, but this was largely offset by the pricing reductions in Argentina.

  • Westernunion.com B2C revenue, which is included in the regional numbers just discussed, grew 16% in the quarter, or 18% constant currency, and represented 7% of total C2C revenue. Westernunion.com transactions increased 25,% with US originated online transactions growing 28%.

  • Mobile continues to be the fast-growing area for WU.com, with over 55% of US transactions being initiated on a mobile device in the quarter. The online business is also gaining good traction on sends to accounts through our expanding payout network. The spread between transaction revenue growth for WU.com in the quarter was primarily due to lower principal per transaction and other mix. This was driven by the high growth in mobile transactions, which tend to have a smaller principal amount.

  • As Hikmet mentioned, we now have online transaction sites in 36 countries, which allow us to send to over 200 countries and territories. And we expect strong growth from WU.com as the year progresses, as we expand our presence and further enhance our service offerings.

  • In the consumer-to-business segment revenue declined 1%, but increased 12% on a constant currency basis, driven by growth in Argentina walk-in and US electronic businesses, which is partially offset by declines in US cash walk-in. Depreciation of the Argentine peso drove the differential between reported and constant currency revenues. Business solutions reported revenues increased 1% or 6% on a constant currency basis, aided by strong sales of hedging products in Europe.

  • The consolidated operating profit margin was 19.9% in the quarter compared to 20.6% in the prior-year period. As expected, the operating margin was negatively impacted by the incremental technology expense and the impact of foreign exchange, which were partially offset by benefits from cost savings and operational efficiencies and the timing of certain expenses.

  • Hedge gains in the quarter were similar to the prior year, with $15 million of gains in the current quarter compared to $16 million of gains in the first quarter of 2015. In total, currency negatively impacted operating profit by approximately $17 million in the quarter compared to prior year.

  • Compliance expense was approximately 3.6% of revenue compared to 3.8% in the prior-year period, EBITDA margin of 25% in the quarter compared to 25.5% in the prior-year period, and, as expected, our tax rate of 14.6% increase from 12.3% in the first quarter of last year. In combination with share repurchases, these results generated earnings per share of $0.37, down slightly from $0.39 a year ago.

  • The C2C segment operating margin was 22.7% compared to 23.1% in the prior-year period. The C2C operating margin was negatively impacted by higher technology expense and the impact of foreign exchange, which were partially offset by benefits from cost savings and operational efficiencies and the timing of certain expenses.

  • The consumer-to-business operating margin was 14.6% in the quarter compared to 18.7% in the prior-year period, with the decrease primarily due to increased technology expense. Business solutions operating profit of $2 million was consistent with the prior-year period, while EBITDA margins improved from 14.6% to 15.1%. Depreciation and amortization for business solutions was approximately $13 million in the quarter compared to $12 million in the prior year.

  • Turning to our cash flow and balance sheet, cash flow from operating activities was $213 million for the quarter, while capital expenditures were $48 million. At the end of the quarter, the Company had debt of $3.2 billion and cash of $1.2 billion. Approximately 35% of the cash was held by United States entities.

  • In the first quarter, we paid $79 million in dividends and repurchased approximately 13 million shares for a total of $240 million. Our remaining authorization, which expires in December 2017, was $472 million at quarter end, and the outstanding share count at the end of March was 492 million shares.

  • Based on the first-quarter results and our recent business trends, we are affirming our full-year financial outlook for constant currency revenue growth, operating profit margin, earnings per share, and operating cash flow. We have maintained our constant currency revenue outlook at a low-to-mid single-digit increase, operating margin at approximately 20%, and earnings per share in a range of $1.58 to $1.70.

  • The GAAP revenue is now expected to be approximately $50 million higher than our initial outlook based on the recent strengthening of several currencies against the US dollar. Compared to 2015 rates, we now expect currency to have a negative impact on revenues of approximately $200 million for the full year. This equates to a GAAP revenue change of 300 basis points lower than the constant currency increase rather than the 400 basis points in the prior outlook.

  • The impact on operating profit from the increased revenue is expected to be partially offset by a reduction in hedge benefits, with hedge gains now projected at approximately $40 million compared to $50 million in the prior outlook. The new projection for total negative impact on operating profit from currency, net of hedges, is now approximately $90 million, a slight improvement from the approximately $100 million negative impact anticipated in our prior outlook. Since the impact on EPS was relatively small and we are still early in the year, we did not change our EPS outlook. As exchange rates stabilize or move during the year, we will update our outlook accordingly.

  • So to summarize, our first-quarter results were solid and we are on track for the year. Cash flow and the balance sheet remain strong and we continue to return significant funds to shareholders.

  • Operator, we are now ready to take questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • And our first question comes from Bryan Keane of Deutsche Bank.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi, guys. Just saw that pricing was down 2%. It sounds like that's US domestic pricing actions and also Argentina. Just thinking about going forward, what can we expect going into quarter two and then throughout the year on the pricing actions?

  • - President & CEO

  • Hi, Bryan. As you said, it was Argentina and we had last year, as you know, some US domestic pricing that's a little bit impact on that. But I see the pricing environment. We are stable. I don't see big changes here.

  • Looking around the world, I think our pricings are stable and I don't see big changes. And I am quite confident that we are going to keep the pricing as we guided in the beginning of the year.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • If you exclude those two items, pricing was flat in the quarter, which is consistent with prior trends.

  • - Analyst

  • But going forward, the Argentina pricing will impact another three quarters. US domestic pricing will anniversary this upcoming quarter? Just trying to -- .

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Yes, Argentina will continue to be in the pricing numbers. It's related to the devaluation that took place in December. And then DMT pricing actions that we took last year were in April, so that will start to anniversary.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay, got it. Raj, just incremental technology expense that weighed on the margins, is there a way to think about that, how much that was in total versus the year-ago period, and thinking about that going forward versus some of the offsets from some of the restructuring and cost saves, just to think about the operating margin and some of the puts and takes there?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Yes, the operating margin was impacted by a few things. Technology was one of them. And then we had some negative foreign exchange impact. And then we had some benefits from cost savings and timing of expenses, as well. The technology expense, we said when we came into the year that we expected to spend well over $50 million incrementally on technology. And that's on a base of a few hundred million dollars.

  • So if you just take that in each quarter, that's roughly, the impact. Some of the later quarters will start to go over, if you will, but in total for the year, we see over $50 million of incremental spend on technology. And then some of the cost savings, if you recall, we took about $11 million of costs in the fourth quarter and that's going to translate to a few million dollars of savings this year. And then we also are just managing the business very tightly and efficiently on the expense side. And we've also had some timing of expenses, as well, that helped us in the first quarter. The primary negative impact was around technology, which, again, for the year will be well over $50 million incrementally and then some of the negative foreign exchange impact.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. And then just last question for me, Hikmet, just looking at the C2C line, it was at 1% constant currency revenue growth. Is there anything you can do to stimulate that line to get stronger growth going forward this year? Or it's going to be dependent upon economies and what's going on in oil that is just going to keep that languishing as a growth rate? Thanks so much.

  • - President & CEO

  • Bryan, I think our focus didn't change, as we gave it at the beginning of the year. The answer is digital, digital, digital. We're seeing dot-com expansion. It's going very strong. Actually we had 25% transaction growth.

  • And within the digital is the mobile. 55% of our transaction in the US are initiated by mobile phones. And it's a little bit lower principal amount with respect to a little bit revenue per transaction. It was lower. But generally that's the direction.

  • I am also excited about the new social media partnership like Viber. Let's see where it goes. It's too early to tell that, but I believe that the digital will bring the growth on the C2C. And digital-to-connection to 200 countries, digital connections to retail locations, digital connections to our account payout network, which we are more than 1 billion accounts that will come the growth. That will accelerate over the few quarters, I believe.

  • On retail money transfer, I think that will continue to be flattish. It will continue to be slow. I think the team is doing a great job there also keeping the retail money transfer very strong. In fact, recently today I just saw it. The Mexico numbers came out and we are winning I saw again, market share there. So that's the thing.

  • But the global economy, all the oil-producing countries, like Russia, like Saudi Arabia, has a little bit impact to our growth. And I would be cautious there. Other side, Germany did very well. Even within the Gulf states [uida] did well. That's really [different] country by country.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. Thanks for the color. I'll pass it along.

  • - President & CEO

  • Thanks Bryan.

  • Operator

  • And our next question will come from Darrin Peller of Barclays.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks, guys. It looks like overall, outside of the callouts you had on pricing in Argentina, et cetera, that pricing has been relatively stable, in most cases, in the last couple of quarters. The one thing I just noticed, though, and I want to ask about, is on the WU.com business looks like the transaction growth has held up in the mid-20s. But I think the revenue growth decelerated to more of a mid-teens growth rate. Is there anything maybe specifically, maybe I missed it in the prepared remarks, that's causing that?

  • - President & CEO

  • Yes, I think, first of all, as you know, Darrin, it changes quarter by quarter, the revenue growth. But the main impact there is the mix. And mobile, as I mentioned earlier, the mobile is growing very fast, mobile transactions. And within the mobile transactions, the revenue per transaction is lower than in the online transaction. People are using really strong mobile transactions but the revenue per transaction has an impact to the revenue. So that's a gap.

  • It's also quarter by quarter. I believe that we had planned to have a strong growth year, also, in revenue coming over. And the other thing is also we just launched two new countries in Europe. We are now in 36 countries, having sending capability to 200 countries. So that will bring also. But the differentiation, answering direct to your question, is definitely the mix here.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • And just to add there, we had 55% of our transactions here in the US initiated on a mobile device, so that's driving significant transaction growth in the mobile channel.

  • - Analyst

  • The good news, generally, of mobile is that it will come with more frequent transactors, right? In other words, a transactor will do it even more frequently.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • It's a new customer base, too. It's largely incremental opportunity for us. So, that's good. We still had 25% transaction growth and we still expect very strong growth for the rest of this year, as well.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. So, despite the lower revenue yield, it's actually coming with a more sticky and a better transaction growth rate, is basically the way we should look at it.

  • - President & CEO

  • And Darrin, they are also new. That's not [alleged] in our business, as you know. They are new customers. We didn't have them.

  • - Analyst

  • Right. That's helpful. And then just one follow-up, and I asked this a couple of times before, but it's always impressive to me to see the growth of the C2B business. I know that, again, you talk a lot about what's happening in some of the market drivers, but just give us some color again on the sustainability to that growth rate on a constant currency basis.

  • - President & CEO

  • Again, digital, digital, digital with Speedpay. Growing very fast. Our US digital business on the payments are growing really good. That drives the growth. The other one is also Argentina. The Argentina transactions has been coming very well. It's a very sticky business. People are using with their bar codes going to the locations and using our [pago facile] payments.

  • It's a very sticky business. People like the convenience. It's fast. And the biller like the convenience also because they get the money immediately, and it's a win-win situation. And that has been a good business. However, saying that, in our retail business there has been slowing, as you know, not significantly slowing but it's been a slower growth, negative growth over these last quarters.

  • - Analyst

  • In the US retail business?

  • - President & CEO

  • In the US retail business.

  • - Analyst

  • Yes, makes sense. Very quickly, Raj, on the tax rate, 15%, is that still a good number for the year?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Yes, we said mid-teens, Darrin. So, mid-teens is still a good number for the year. In any given quarter, it's going to be up or down from that number, but mid-teens is a good number.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay, all right, guys. Thanks very much.

  • - President & CEO

  • Thank you Darrin.

  • Operator

  • And the next question comes from Sara Gubins of Bank of America.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi. This is David Chu for Sara.

  • - President & CEO

  • Hi David.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi. You mentioned the timing of spend helped the 1Q a bit. Can you just discuss this?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Yes. That wasn't the biggest factor. It was really related to cost savings that we had from last year's actions. And then we've just been managing other efficiency opportunities within the business. We had some timing of spend, but we also had other things, like technology spend, that were higher than we would have thought in the first quarter. So it netted out to zero. That wasn't the primary driver of the margin impact this quarter.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. And then in regards to these oil-producing countries, do you expect trends to weaken in upcoming quarters, because it seems like to date you hadn't seen a major impact in Europe. It sounds like you're calling it out now when you hadn't in previous quarters.

  • - President & CEO

  • Yes, you got that, David. First of all, I always called Russia out, right? Remember, Russia was also. And we have some, also oil impacted issues like in Nigeria with the currency. But Saudi Arabia, for instance, still growing, but the pace of growth has been slower than in previous quarters.

  • Within the Gulf states, though, there are still countries going very strong. And I would say that the growth comes currently from US outbound, from Germany, from parts of Europe, and our digital business has been performing very well. So, it's going to continue. That's the beauty of being in 200 countries, having that portfolio that we have. And just to say it again, you know it anyway, but none of our countries out of the US are bigger than 7% of our revenue, which means that we have really a huge portfolio. Some of the countries which we call it out has less than 1% of the revenue. We see some impact, but I wouldn't say that it's major.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. Thanks, guys.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Thanks.

  • Operator

  • The next question will come from Tien-tsin Huang of JPMorgan.

  • - Analyst

  • Great. Actually a related question because everything else seemed pretty stable or consistent. Just on the oil-dependent regions, what can you do to revive growth there? It sounds like pricing is not a tool you will use. Anything else that's available to Western Union?

  • - President & CEO

  • I think, as you know, our business, sending and receiving, for instance, in Russia or Nigeria or all these countries, not only on the send countries, Tien-tsin, it's also on the received countries we see something. We do inbound, we changed our marketing activity to inbound instead of outbound, and really do some promotions about that, if the outbound export-related oil-producing jobs we'll get less. Besides that, obviously it's an industry issue. If there are less jobs about that, it's economically impact.

  • But I would say that we call it out now. We see the first signs. I'm not sure if that's going to continue. It can turn around back again. I don't see a major issue, but we call it out because we felt the first slowdowns. And Russia, we always called it out.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • We're going to continue to benefit with low oil prices in other parts of our businesses, as Hikmet mentioned earlier. And we continue to get really strong growth in the US. Germany was very strong for us again. The UK did well. And our dot-com business, we continue to see very strong opportunities there. So, these other areas will be an offset to some of these other softer areas.

  • - Analyst

  • Right. All part of the portfolio. My only follow-up, maybe for you, Raj, is you bought back a lot of stock, it looks like, this quarter, which is great. [They've] mathematically just over $400 million in cash left in the US. So, do we need to expect that the buyback is this slow or do you have some other levers to pull to keep this pace up?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Tien-tsin, we have about $470 million left on the authorization, which goes through the end of next year. So we have enough capacity to be able to buy for this year and next year. And we have enough sources of cash and other capacity to be able to continue to buy back our stock.

  • - Analyst

  • All right. Good to know. Thank you.

  • - President & CEO

  • Thanks Tien-tsin.

  • Operator

  • And our next question will come from Jason Kupferberg of Jefferies.

  • - Analyst

  • Hey, thanks, guys. How are you?

  • - President & CEO

  • Hi Jason. How are you?

  • - Analyst

  • Good, good. I just wanted to ask a follow-up question on WU.com, because I can appreciate the mix dynamics here. I'm thinking about rest of year and constant currency revenue growth potential of the business, because I noticed the year-over-year comparisons on that metric are going to get tougher the rest of the year. And it probably wouldn't be surprising if the mobile mix continues to accelerate versus the 55% levels you saw in the US this quarter, just given the way consumer preferences are trending. Just so we've got the expectations teed up properly, this 18%-ish number we saw in Q1, is that a decent run rate, or are we going to see some natural slowing the rest of the year because of tougher comps and because of some potential acceleration of the mix shift to mobile within the WU.com channel?

  • - President & CEO

  • Jason, you know me. More and more and more is better. Obviously we want to grow faster. Our plans are we want to grow revenue, accelerate the revenue growth, and we are working on that. Especially also the expansion on the new geographies will help that also, because these are just starting the new geographies. Once the customer gets sticky, they started to get revenue also there, right? And I believe that our plans are built on stronger growth, definitely, here also.

  • The mix is definitely something that the customer behavior is changing. But I believe also that we just launched in Italy new mobile app. We have also in UK, we upgrade our mobile app there. People are using more mobile and they're more sticky, and we are responding to the customer needs, and I think that will grow stronger.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. And then can you quantify on average how much lower the principal per transaction is on the mobile WU.com transactions versus the non-mobile?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • I can try to quantify it for you, but it's a little bit of a difference. I don't think we have the real data behind that, but it's enough to make a difference because of the significant growth that we are getting on mobile. It's probably $20, $30 difference, so it doesn't make a big difference on each transaction, but when you have such strong growth on each transaction, that's where it's making a difference on the overall picture. And I would just say that as we add new features, as we add new geographies, more channels, more bank funding, and more bank payout, all of these things are going to layer in more growth opportunity for us as we move forward.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. And just last one for me, I know that FX volatility can have some impacts in your business, and FX vol was peaking last year. It's going to start to probably anniversary some of those peakish levels. Is that essentially what you have baked into the outlook for the year, or how should we be thinking about that dynamic?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Jason, just on the actual difference in principal, it looks like it's about a $100 difference in principal. I was just trying to remote memory between mobile and the web channel just so you would have that.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. Thank you.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Then on the foreign exchange volatility, it doesn't really have a big impact to the overall business. It may have some impact in our B2B business in the short term. Whatever we're seeing right now, we've generally tried to take into account in our outlook for the year.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. That makes sense. Thank you, guys.

  • - President & CEO

  • Thanks.

  • Operator

  • The next question will come from Ashwin Shirvaikar of Citi.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi, [meh tie] Raj, how are you?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Good. How are you?

  • - Analyst

  • I'm good, thanks. A question on WU.com. Is it possible to break that out in terms of how much of the growth is from adding new countries versus the same-stores type of growth where you already are? And also, from a geographical perspective, is it safe to say that the North America piece primarily benefited given the same 50/50 principal that you used in terms of splitting out revenue contribution?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Ashwin, in your 50/50 question, you're asking why we did it or how does it fit in?

  • - Analyst

  • You always do it, but that would imply that if more of your -- I guess the question I'm asking is, from a geographical perspective, (inaudible) America-centric from an outbound perspective?

  • - President & CEO

  • Let me give a shot on that, try to answer your question. Raj, feel free to jump in. Most of the transactions, on the first part of your question, most of the transactions are generated in the countries where we've been longer, obviously, like the US, UK, like the countries, like Germany, we've been there longer with our online services. And the new countries, it takes a while when they come to at the portfolio. It's a promotion part, it's a customer [sicnedesoids]. Most of the part, the majority of the transactions are definitely from the countries where we have been.

  • It's good also because it's more, we see also one (inaudible) on the digital is that the customer use more often our services when they use online when use online when they once register. They stay there and they use it. So that's great news.

  • The second part of the question is on the 50/50. It's basically the combining our marketing efforts and our branding efforts, our go-to-market efforts to get at with the regions.

  • As you know, we were very much focused with the digital. Do we have a good startup? Did our $300 million revenue approximately a year? We are, I believe, the market leader in the digital pace, and we are growing strong here. And now it's time to really expanding that faster globally, using our agent network. Within the agent network, also we are promoting our westernunion.com and combining our agent activities, regulator activities in the regions with our dot-com digital business.

  • That's the positive side. That's why we are putting that also on the region.

  • - Analyst

  • Got it. Understood. So to follow-up on the tech expense, Raj, was your comment that tech expense got pulled forward? Was that what you were saying and the rest of the year is going to be a lower level? Or were you saying basically that you have decided to now spend more on technology?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • No, let me just restate. We're going to spend an incremental amount of money this year, well over $50 million. The timing of that will vary by quarter. Some of the spending started to ramp late last year, so we may start to grow over some of that towards the end of the year. But that's really what I was trying to say.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. And the incremental spending in the past, Raj, you mentioned obviously investing in the core platform, investing in big data. What is this incremental investing for? I saw that you guys did a block-chain investment, but that seems more like a financing type of thing.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Yes, the block-chain investment is a nominal investment. We make investments like that from time to time just to stay close to things that are happening in that space. But the technology spend, the incremental spend is really upgrading our legacy platforms, our settlement system, our data centers and our core processing capability. So, it upgrades those systems. It allows us to be more nimble in the market. It also allows us to be better fit to serve digital partners as we add them.

  • And some of these are multi-year programs, so they are not going to be done in a one-year period. They are going to continue on for a couple of years. So, that's really where the spending is geared towards.

  • - Analyst

  • Got it. When you say multi-year, can you put a time frame? Is it middle of next year, or -- ?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Yes, it's just multi-year in nature. Some of these programs will go away at the end of next year, or sometime next year. Others will continue on for a couple more years. So, it's hard to say exactly when they are going to fall off.

  • We're going to continue to invest in our digital area too. As we add new digital partners, we may launch new upgrades or new programs in that regard. So I don't see us fall off in spending in the technology side any time soon.

  • - President & CEO

  • I think, Raj, sorry, as you know, parts of that really finding efficiency for existing IT, parts of that is really investing in the new part on the digital environment, and really the WU Connect part or also connecting the banks, if I connect parts to banks to our system. And we see, as I was recently in China, the ChinaPay connection to us needs some investment. Examples like ChinaPay, or examples like big banks connecting our system, or [zekems] like Viber social media connecting system need some upgrade and required some investment. That's the part of it, the innovation part of it.

  • - Analyst

  • Got it. Understood. Thank you.

  • - President & CEO

  • Thanks Ashwin.

  • Operator

  • And the next question comes from Daniel Hussein of Morgan Stanley.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi, Hikmet, Raj. Now that you have another quarter under your belt, can you give an update on WU Connect partnerships are tracking versus your initial expectations? And at this point do you have a better sense for how many of those transactions are incremental?

  • - President & CEO

  • Yes, I think it's too early to call, Daniel. It's still very small. But I'm very excited actually about the Viber. We just finished the beta test. The results are very good. Actually the beta mode was last week, so we went to full market launch. Let's see how that works. It's too early to call from revenue and transaction side, but I'm excited about that.

  • The other thing is also, what I'm excited also, we have some other partners in the pipeline we are developing. That's a part of, as Ashwin asked the question earlier, that's a part of our also investment in the technology, to be ready for the new partners also, and maybe additional focus on that is required. So, I'm not going to share with you the transaction numbers because it's too early to call. It's a new use cases. But we will see and hopefully when it comes I can report then better news, good news here about our partners.

  • - Analyst

  • Understood. And the Treasury Department then pretty active in clamping down on inversion, Raj. Do any of their actions have implications for your working capital strategies potentially in the future?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • They should not. And these are not rules yet, anyway. They are probably going to go through a lot of evolution before anything actually comes to market. But even in its current form, it should not have any impact to our working capital strategies or our tax rate for what's been discussed recently.

  • - Analyst

  • Great. Thank you very much.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Thanks.

  • Operator

  • The next question comes from Kartik Mehta of Northcoast Research.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi, good evening.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Hey, how are you?

  • - Analyst

  • Good. Maybe, Raj, I wanted to ask you about the business solutions segment. Maybe what type of revenue growth you think you need to see there to really start seeing improvement in the operating margins?

  • - President & CEO

  • As you saw, we had some improvement in our margin side, but on the revenue side, we definitely want to [a shoe] better revenue here. 6% we had, despite the global trade issues, despite the global economic issues, despite the currency volatility like in the UK against other currencies, we did have a 6% growth in revenue terms. I think that the global trade will help us once it gets picked up, [the mute] new customers. But the other thing is also our market share is quite low here and we see an opportunity here to grow that on our market share. So, it is definitely growth will help to expand the margins. But the team is doing a good job. We even saw this quarter margin expansion, right, Raj?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Margins were up a little bit, 15.1% EBITDA margin versus 14.6% from the prior-year quarter. And then last year, Kartik, we improved margins to around 15%, again, on an EBITDA basis. And that was higher than the 11% that we had in the prior year. So, revenue growth really is the key for us to be able to drive better profitability there, because that business has a relatively larger proportion of fixed costs than the rest of our company. But it's heading in the right direction, though, at least from a margin standpoint.

  • - Analyst

  • What pressures, if any, are you seeing from the other online money transfer companies that are out there, either from a pricing standpoint or any other competitive pressures that you might be witnessing from them?

  • - President & CEO

  • Nothing different than retail competitors, I would say. As you recall, Kartik, at our Investors' Day we had a chart representing the branded money transfer companies, digital companies, what our market share is, what we believe that their revenue is. So, I believe, that given our fundamentals, given our global reach, we do have a quite good expansion. We are growing very fast, we are winning market share here. So, comparing with that.

  • I think also there's still growth opportunities that we can capture, growth opportunities with new customer segments, but also on the financial institutions. More and more financial institutions are looking at us, saying that can you process the transactions from the US to Vietnam or from Germany to Peru. And all these things, with our compliance programs, with our platforms, we can expand our opportunities here. So, I think we are gaining market share in the digital environment.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you very much.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Thank you, Kartik.

  • Operator

  • Next we have a question from Andrew Jeffrey of SunTrust.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi, guys, thank you for taking the question. Appreciate it. A couple of actually housekeeping questions. One is, on the cost of goods this quarter, I saw it was up as a percent of revenue year on year. You're obviously doing a nice job on SG&A. Just wonder if you could give a little color on gross margin trends.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Yes. On cost of goods, specifically, the two things that impacted the reason why it's higher is that it's largely related to technology expense increase in the quarter, as well as the negative impact of foreign exchange. Then we had some offsets from cost savings. But those are the primary drivers there. Commission rates were relatively flat year over year in the quarter, and that continues to be the case and in line with our expectations. It was really driven by these other factors.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. So, over time we should see some gross margin expansion?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • We'll be at around 20% overall margins this year, and that's still consistent with our outlook.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. And with regard to cash flow from operations, I noticed it was flattish year on year, maybe some growth in other assets from working cap. Could you just elaborate a little bit on what's going on there?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • It's just a result of we have lower net income, but then we have some positives in the working capital side, so we're relatively flat overall. So, nothing special there going on in operating cash flow.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. And would expect those trends to normalize as the year goes on?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Our outlook for cash flow, operating cash flow is around $1 billion, so it should follow a similar pattern that we've had historically. So, there's nothing really special there to call out.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. And then one last one, I know account to account is a pretty important growth thrust for Western Union, and I heard you mention it, Hikmet. Can you talk a little bit about how we might see account to account really play out as a potential long-term revenue driver?

  • - President & CEO

  • I think there is opportunity. The reason I'm mentioning it is that more financial institutions are supposed to start to use our platform because of offering their customers capability on compliance, on technology, on settlement, on multi-currency payouts. So, walk in a small financial institution somewhere in the US saying that I want to send money to Nigeria, we can able that. It's hard for them. They are using us as partners. That starts to be not only on the retail side being cash-in but to be account to account. So, the funds in, coming from an account, then going to an account in somewhere in the world.

  • Recently, we are seeing very strong growth in India. Westernunion.com transactions (inaudible) is growing very well. And a recent example, (inaudible) is our bKash model. It's kind of mobile wallet in Bangladesh, which you can send -- it's like you can see that there is an account. You can send money to a bKash account mobile wallet. That was a cooperation between BRAC Bank, MasterCard and us and bKash together.

  • So, I see there are growth opportunities for us to grow that. We have more than 1 billion accounts now globally. Our goal is expanding that, also reaching out to new customers and being more in more countries with our account network.

  • - Analyst

  • Would you anticipate that we could think about that perhaps moving the needle at some point for Western Union in the back half of 2016 or 2017, or does it have a longer tail on it?

  • - President & CEO

  • It's early to call it. Probably I can give you more color next year about that. But I would say that I see it as a growth opportunity and I will leave it here for now because it's too early to give you a direction here.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. Thanks a lot.

  • Operator

  • And the next question comes from Matt O'Neill of Autonomous Research.

  • - Analyst

  • Good afternoon, guys. I was hoping you could just help us think about the C2C transaction growth rate, broadly speaking, particularly in the quarter considering the extra day benefit or probably what is roughly a percentage point from leap year, and just how you guys think about that metric going forward for the rest of the year. Thanks.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Matt, the transaction growth was 3%, which is consistent with the fourth quarter. The leap year probably helped us a little bit, but we also had a negative impact from the Easter holiday, which fell into the first quarter this year versus second quarter last year. So, there's probably some offset to that. And that doesn't change our overall outlook for the year.

  • We haven't given a transaction growth outlook for the year, but our revenue growth is low- to mid-single digits. And it's just reflective of the things that we're seeing around the world. We have some pockets of strength and some pockets of weakness. And some of the differential that you saw between revenue growth and transaction growth in the first quarter was related to Argentina where the transaction growth continued but revenue growth fell off a little bit. So, that's really what we're seeing.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • And the next question comes from Rayna Kumar of Evercore ISI.

  • - Analyst

  • Good evening. Do you intend to bid for a Walmart cross-border contract now that Walmart has gone non-inclusive with MoneyGram?

  • - President & CEO

  • As you can imagine, I won't give any details on negotiations or any potential partners or any market environment. Look, we have been doing that for years. We're going to expand our capabilities to get any partners within our terms, which has to be fitting in our strategy, which has to serve our customers. It could be Walmart, it could be someone else, but it has to fit in with our business strategy and within our guidance. So, that would be my answer.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay, got it. And one last follow-up, when will the Board next meet to discuss an update to your dividend policy? And what do you expect the Board to decide?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Our Board meets on a regular basis. Again, I won't call out exactly when they discuss specific topics. As you know, dividend payout for us is a key important part of our overall capital return, Rayna. We have a payout ratio in the high 30% range. We are paying back more than $300 million a year in dividends. So, it's going to continue to be a key important part of our overall capital return strategy.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • - President & CEO

  • Thanks, Rayna.

  • Operator

  • Next we have David Scharf from JMP.

  • - Analyst

  • Yes, thanks for taking the question. First, I might have missed it, Raj, but I believe you made reference to a little bit of benefit from expense timing in the quarter. What did that refer to? And should we expect that to show up in the second quarter?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • There's always going to be expense timing from year to year versus what we had planned for. You'll see it sometime during this year. But our outlook for margins are around 20%. That has not changed for the full year. So, there's some variability in timing of certain expenses and that's all I was referring to.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. It was nothing specific. Got it. Secondly, can you just remind me, of the roughly $1 billion of cash flow from ops, maybe around $830 million, $850 million of free cash flow, how much is generated in the US in that forecast?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • We generally have about 25% of our cash flow available to us in the US through our normal repatriation that we do and about 75% outside the US.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. And that mix isn't expected to be any different this year?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • It's going to vary a little bit from year to year, but that's the general mix.

  • - Analyst

  • Got it. And just lastly, a bit of an open-ended question, maybe put you on the spot a little. But you've obviously provided a lot of detail on your plans and the developments of WU.com, mobile initiatives and the like. Just wondering, in your opinion right now as you look at the competitive landscape, what do you think is the most formidable new technology you're offering out there in the industry that obviously that Western Union doesn't own?

  • - President & CEO

  • Mobile, mobile, mobile, right? The [use case] customers tell us that they want to use their mobile while they walk to an underground and send money to Mexico. Or while they are sitting in a meeting they want to use their iPad and send money to England. So, that's what we have to upgrade our mobile applications on their Android or on their Apple devices. I think that's something.

  • And I believe that we are really seeing, looking at the numbers and comparing with the competition and comparing with our prices, we are really leading the industry here. The team in San Francisco and my team is doing a good job. There will be always a competition, technical competition, on the corridor by corridor.

  • I recently was in Copenhagen at Money 2020. There are a lot of fintech companies coming with ideas but nobody can really offer the end-to-end solution. No one of them can say that, okay, you can send money from 36 countries on many mobile apps to 200 countries and pick up the money in minutes, and do the compliance, and pay out in 131 currencies, and at a good price. That's definitely the technology we are looking at. That's definitely the way we are investing. That's definitely the way we are upgrading our technologies.

  • - Analyst

  • Got it. And it doesn't sound like any particular vendor out there springs to mind?

  • - President & CEO

  • I don't see it. I did, again, a market tour with my team. I don't see it yet. There are something, though. It's not only the technology only. It's also the end-to-end process, as I said. It's a regulatory environment, It's a complex business. It is being in global, having the brands, all of these things got together and packaging in a way that customer feels simple from sending money from a mobile phone to [foreign countries].

  • - Analyst

  • Got it. Thank you.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Thank you. Laura we'll take one more question.

  • Operator

  • That final question will come from Alex Veytsman of Monness, Crespi, Hardt & Co.

  • - Analyst

  • Yes, hi, guys. A quick question on North America. Can you discuss the trend you expect for the rest of the year? It looks like you want to go strong driven by Mexico and Latin America. Do you expect similar outbound trends to continue?

  • - EVP & CFO

  • North America, we've seen, and this has continued from last year, we've seen good trends to Mexico and to Latin America. And then the DMT business, we saw flat revenue growth. The North American business, by all indications, should continue to perform well. I can't give you a specific number, but we continue to see good growth in the North American market, at least for this year.

  • - Analyst

  • Sounds good. Thank you.

  • - SVP of IR

  • Okay. Thanks, everyone, for joining us. We wish you a good evening.

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