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  • Operator

  • And welcome to the Whitestone REIT Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Call. (Operator Instructions). It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, David Morten. Thank you. You may begin.

  • David Mordy - Director of IR

  • Good morning, and thank you for joining Whitestone REIT's Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me on today's call are Dave Holeman, Chief Executive Officer; Christine Mastandrea, Chief Operating Officer; and Scott Hogan, Chief Financial Officer. Please note that some statements made during this call are not historical and may be deemed forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those forward-looking statements due to a number of risks, uncertainties, and other factors. Please refer to the company's earnings news release and filings with the SEC, including Whitestone's most recent Form 10-Q and 10-K for a detailed discussion of these factors.

  • Acknowledging the fact that this call may be webcast for a period of time, it is also important to note that this call includes time-sensitive information that may be accurate only as of today's date, November 2nd, 2022. The company undertakes no obligation to update this information. Whitestone's third-quarter earnings news release and supplemental operating and financial data package have been filed with the SEC and are available on our website in the Investor Relations section. We published third quarter 2022 slides on our website yesterday afternoon, which highlight topics to be discussed today.

  • I will now turn the call over to Dave Holeman, our Chief Executive Officer.

  • David K. Holeman - CEO & Director

  • Thank you, David. Good morning, and thank you for joining Whitestone's Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. We delivered another very strong quarter of operating and financial results. Versus the third quarter of 2021, our revenue grew over 9%. Our FFO per share is $0.24, up from $0.22 and same-store net operating income increased 4.5% and is up over 8% for the 9 months of the year. Our total occupancy is 92.5%, up 260 basis points from Q3 2021 and 100 basis points from the second quarter. As of the end of the third quarter, our net effective annual base rent per square foot was $21.73, up 6.5% from 2021. And our balance sheet continues to strengthen with lower debt leverage, as shown by the improvement in our year-to-date net debt-to-EBITDAR ratio of 7.9x versus 9x for the first 9 months of 2021.

  • I am very proud of the team for delivering these results. We know that consistent execution is vital to producing strong results, and that's exactly where our focus is throughout the company. Specifically, since I was appointed, we're 100% focused on our core business and on executing the company's strategic plan. It has been a process that started with the elimination of numerous distractions. We turned our attention to unlocking value and aligning interest to ensure that this unique business model was able to deliver results from a portfolio of properties that are positioned to serve their respective communities on a daily basis and drive strong, consistent cash flow growth. We have delivered $0.80 FFO per share year-to-date and we are narrowing our 2022 guidance range to the upper portion of the range, making our new target $1 to $1.02 per share. Today, we thought we might take a little different approach to make the call a bit more interactive. We'll share and answer some of the questions we have received from the investment community.

  • Following that, we'll take additional questions from the audience on our call today. David?

  • David Mordy - Director of IR

  • Thanks, Dave. I'll start with a common investor question and have you answer it, Dave. How do you close Whitestone's valuation gap? What's your plan?

  • David K. Holeman - CEO & Director

  • Let's start with what we've already accomplished as we've done a tremendous amount in a short amount of time. We are on target for an over 16% year-over-year FFO per share growth, and we just delivered record occupancy of 92.5% and but our accomplishments extend well beyond just the earnings achievement. Since the new executive team was put in place, executive compensation has been reduced significantly, numerous governance actions have been taken, including splitting the Chair and CEO roles, the removal of the poison pill, approval of shareholder access to bylaws, and Board refreshment with the addition of Amy Feng.

  • Furthermore, we extended our credit facility and set the company on a path to divest of our JV investment in Pillarstone Capital REIT operating partnership. So we are pleased with what we've accomplished so far, but additional opportunities still exist to improve. We need to continue to grow earnings and reduce leverage. We need to continue delivering consistent quarterly results. We need to demonstrate that we're the best in operating community-connected centers with a well-curated mix of 2,000 to 3,000-square-foot spaces occupied by vibrant successful businesses. If we deliver on these remaining items, I am confident the market will recognize and appreciate the value being unlocked.

  • David Mordy - Director of IR

  • Thanks, Dave. Let's go with another question for you regarding Whitestone's occupancy. The company's occupancy is at a record high. Why shouldn't investors view the current occupancy as a ceiling? Is it gain just the environment we're in? And if not, what's changed?

  • David K. Holeman - CEO & Director

  • Thanks, David. We're pleased with the progress we're making in growing our occupancy level, which I believe is the result of the numerous actions we have taken so far in 2022. Upon taking the CEO role, we immediately began to engage with our various stakeholder groups to truly understand the issues and take steps to focus the business on maximizing long-term value for shareholders. As I stated in my first earnings call, we know this begins and ends with high-quality leasing. Accordingly, we have taken the following steps.

  • First, we made additional changes in the executive leadership team to achieve alignment with the investment community. Second, we increased accountability. Specifically, we streamlined and strengthened the regional leasing and property management teams, providing clear goals and priorities, eliminating micro-management, and allowing for faster and better execution.

  • Third, we began the process of restoring our relationships within the real estate community, especially with the brokers, which has dramatically increased our transaction flow. Importantly, we've improved morale throughout the company by giving employees more effective tools for success and clear objectives that were aligned with the management team, which is resulting in greater productivity. In combination, these steps have expanded our potential on leasing and occupancy. We have an extremely competitive team that wants nothing more than to outperform. There has never been a better time for our strategy, our tenants, our properties, and our team to drive results and create value.

  • David Mordy - Director of IR

  • Thanks, Dave. Staying with occupancy, let me turn to Christine for a couple of questions. Christine, how high can occupancy go? What's the goal for 2023?

  • Christine C. J. Mastandrea - COO

  • Well, we'll address our 2023 occupancy growth target with the Q4 call. However, I think it's important to note that occupancy is an outcome. Our focus is designing the right centers, the tenants that are adding value to the community and that bring in quality of revenue, we target tenants who can increase traffic, successfully serve the community, and complement co-tenants. In order to grow rental rates, we seek out successful tenants, not just fill the space. We view remerchandising as a critical component of ensuring the center is connected to the ceramic community.

  • It's not just occupancy that does well when you have successful tenants. Rent increases are far more palatable when businesses are thriving. I should also point out that this quarter, for the first time, we broke out our occupancy between greater than 10,000 square foot spaces and those 10,000 square feet and under. Our 10,000-square-foot occupancy, which is our core competency, was 90.1% for the quarter and we believe still has substantial room to increase. One of the additional trends we are seeing is that as the workforce reduces its orbit around the office buildings, demand in our local centers is increasing, and we're reaping those benefits.

  • David Mordy - Director of IR

  • Thanks, Christine. Can you give us more color on the current environment?

  • Christine C. J. Mastandrea - COO

  • We continue to see great demand within our footprint. Our 260 basis point year-over-year occupancy improvement reflects not only that environment, but the momentum we have found from making the changes Dave walked you through. I should also mention that demand has remained strong for the first month of Q4 leading up to this call. This strength runs throughout our tenant categories, including fitness, restaurants, education, and medical. And as a point of reference to the -- during the quarter, we signed 86 leases, representing 219,000 square feet and $29 million in total lease value. This is versus the pre-pandemic 2019. The third quarter was 25% higher on a square foot basis and 56% higher on a total lease basis. And year-to-date, with 56% higher on a square foot basis and 96% higher on a total lease value basis. I am pleased that our total leasing spreads for the quarter were a positive 9% and 19% on a cash basis and GAAP basis, respectively.

  • And I'll remind you that our lease structures are strategically designed with shorter lease terms, allowing for more frequent lease rate increases. Recently, HEV, a powerhouse grocer within Texas just announced plans to break ground on a new store across the street from our Heritage Trace Plaza in Dallas-Fort Worth. And later today, they'll have a grand opening ceremony for the Plano store, their opening adjacent to our Lakeside Market Center. The continuation of our centers gaining strong shadow anchors is no happy accident.

  • Our data-driven acquisitions are prime locations to reap the benefits as consumers and businesses make the same determination we did and move into our communities. Moving with recent trends, we opened 2 Asian barbecue and hotpot restaurants this quarter, bringing the total with tenor centers up to 6 each in a different location. We think these perfectly fit with the growing affluent communities focused on casual economic family dining experiences with the communal component.

  • Like all of you, we are watching for signs of a market downturn, but that's not what we're seeing. If that should change, we believe staying true to our strategy of leasing to growing businesses, such as services and restaurants and focusing on quality of revenue and highly desirable Sun Belt markets will allow us to effectively weather a range of economic environments. A great example of the value of our centers we operate is that our FFO per share was off only 8% between 2019 and 2020, which was very strong in performance against our peer set.

  • David Mordy - Director of IR

  • Thanks, Christine. I'll shift over to Scott now with a few key investor questions. Scott, how is capital prioritized? How will capital allocation be handled over the course of the next few years?

  • J. Scott Hogan - CFO

  • Thanks, David. Whitestone has twin goals of growing earnings and improving leverage. In the current environment, it means we need to focus on recurring earnings, activating non-income-producing land parcels, and recycling assets to fuel growth. It also means that projects or acquisitions need to have strong returns in order to achieve our twin objectives. We're fortunate to have strong organic growth opportunities embedded in our properties and a number of development and redevelopment projects was returns strong enough to achieve our twin goals in the near term. On the acquisition side, we are actively seeking well-located, value-add properties that will meet our dual criteria. The current transaction market is shallow and disconnected with the rising cost of capital, so patience and discipline are doubly important. We look forward to sharing more information on our projects and capital recycling as they progress over the balance of the coming quarters.

  • David Mordy - Director of IR

  • Thanks, Scott. One major development during the quarter was the extension of Whitestone's credit facility. What's your projection for interest expense in the fourth quarter?

  • J. Scott Hogan - CFO

  • Thanks, David. We are pleased to have amended and extended our corporate credit facility in the third quarter. This credit agreement amendment moves the bulk of our maturities until 2027 and beyond, inclusive of our 2 6-month extension options on the revolver. Also, the amendment allowed us to lock the interest rate on 82% of our debt. The renewed credit facilities' attractive terms reflect our strengthening balance sheet and provides us with additional liquidity and financial flexibility to take advantage of opportunities in our current portfolio and in the marketplace. Looking at the forward SOFR curve at our current debt level, we anticipate the fourth quarter of 2022, we'll have $1.3 million higher interest expense versus the third quarter. We had strong support from our bank group and continue to improve our overall debt leverage.

  • David Mordy - Director of IR

  • Thanks, Scott. I'll ask one final question of Dave. Quite simply, how is Whitestone stand out? What's your compelling differentiation?

  • David K. Holeman - CEO & Director

  • Thanks, David. This really is at the core of everything we do. I believe we have numerous differentiating factors that make Whitestone unique and attractive. In the interest of time, I'll just highlight 1 or 2. We believe there is tremendous growth to be had in a non-formulaic center development. If you're looking for a company paying low cap rates for grocery-anchored centers or operating power centers with big box and soft good tenants, that's not Whitestone.

  • We believe needs-based centers that serve thriving communities on a daily basis with quick serve and family restaurants, fitness, medical and educational offerings can effectively anchor and center and deliver higher rents. And we believe those centers, combined with great locations in high-income neighborhoods in high-growth Sun Belt locations are better designed to outperform in all economic cycles. Our average base rent for spaces 10,000 square feet and under is $25.34 versus $13.58 for larger spaces. In a properly designed center, we believe the tenants in the 2,000 to 3,000 square foot range provide higher profitability and less risk, especially given the expense and timing of switching out a larger space and the restrictions and approval rights that often are contained in these larger tenant leases.

  • David Mordy - Director of IR

  • Thanks, Dave. This concludes our prepared remarks by the Whitestone team, and we're now ready to take some questions. Operator?

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). The first question, we have Mr. Mitchell Germain from JMP Securities.

  • Mitchell Bradley Germain - MD & Equity Research Analyst

  • Great. I appreciate you guys doing something different on the call. So maybe just some color on the leasing pipeline. Hearing a lot more national tenants taking smaller spaces than typical, maybe a little bit in terms of the types of tenants that you're seeing the most traction from?

  • Christine C. J. Mastandrea - COO

  • Thanks for the question, Mitch. This is Christine. We're seeing consistently across all categories, the same type of drive for activity to come into our markets. So most of it has been from, I would say, continual interest in restaurants, but I would say that this would also be from the strength of our regional brands and franchises, still increase there. Fitness, as we talked about last quarter, is still strong, whether it's franchises or national brands expanding. And in addition to that, it would say that health, beauty, and wellness is still -- and there's so many new iterations of health, beauty, and wellness coming out.

  • So we're seeing a new -- a lot of new types of product out there, and it's coming from both the East and the West Coast. So usually, the new ideas start there. They move in, but they come into our locations because of our HHIs. And I think along the lines of, as I mentioned earlier, there -- you see some of these new trends. So for example, the Korean hot pot and barbecue restaurants, we've opened 6 this year, and they're all from each one of them, all 6, 2 in Dallas, 1 in Austin, 3 in Houston coming in in all, again, strong regional brands opening up in our locations.

  • David K. Holeman - CEO & Director

  • Mitch, it's Dave. I might just add one thing to Christine's comments. You mentioned the size of the space is exactly right. We continue to see really that demand in the spaces we have. If you look at our properties, we've always said we focus on those 2,000 to 3,000-square-foot space tenants, and we're really well positioned. Space size continues to be a focus on the smaller spaces. And then as Christine commented on the types of tenants.

  • J. Scott Hogan - CFO

  • And just one more new trend that we're seeing that's interesting is that we're seeing in the case of companies that have a workforce that are looking to be closer to home, taking spaces in retail centers for a couple of different reasons. One is they want the ability to have their brand out on the storefront, number one. Number two, it's about finding talent, so much of that about the brand and also creating the opportunity for amenities for the workforce to come back. And that's been a unique move, too. And those spaces have actually been a little bit larger than the norm. So they're closer to 3,000 in some cases. We've had a couple of spaces fill up at around 4,000 to 5,000 square feet.

  • Mitchell Bradley Germain - MD & Equity Research Analyst

  • Great. I appreciate that. Dave, maybe a broad question for you. Pretty significant opportunity to do some developments/redevelopment opportunities within your portfolio. And I know you get a pretty significant return on that. But how do you weigh that versus deleveraging? Obviously, the balance sheet screens fairly unfavorably to peer. So talk to me a little bit more broadly about how you view capital allocation going forward.

  • David K. Holeman - CEO & Director

  • Yes. Thanks, Mitch. I think Scott indicated in his comments that we have dual goals. And that's the way we are focused today. We are going to look to take actions that drive earnings growth but also that improve our balance sheet. So I think as we look at opportunities, there are, I believe, in our deck we posted for the call, there's a slide on that, but we have pad sites. We have redevelopment opportunities. And then we have some land parcels within the portfolio that have been with us for a number of years that we're going to look to activate and create income. None of that happens overnight, but I will tell you that we, as a management team, are focused on those opportunities and delivering those consistent with our goals of driving earnings growth and improving the balance sheet.

  • Mitchell Bradley Germain - MD & Equity Research Analyst

  • Got you. Any update on Pillarstone? Obviously, I know that there's some noise that's preventing or at least delaying some of that. But is it just broadly the market that's delaying a sale? Or is it some other issues that are weighing on that?

  • David K. Holeman - CEO & Director

  • So we are -- we've clearly communicated our intent to exit our JV venture, and we're setting a path to doing that. There is some litigation involved in that, so I can't comment a whole lot on it, but be assured that Whitestone is focused on taking actions that are in the best interest of our shareholders. There is no -- nothing other than that in our focus, but we do believe that Whitestone exiting those -- that partnership, monetizing our investment, and then looking to reinvest that back in the business is the right thing for our shareholders. Currently, that investment is not generating a lot of return for our shareholders because of the relationship with Pillarstone. So not any update, Mitch, other than saying we are focused on taking the steps to monetize that investment for Whitestone and looking to do that in due course.

  • Mitchell Bradley Germain - MD & Equity Research Analyst

  • Got you. Last one for me. Anything happening in operating expenses, property operating that I need to be aware of this quarter?

  • J. Scott Hogan - CFO

  • Yes. Thanks for that question, Mitch. This is Scott. I'll just start by mentioning that the vast majority of our leases are triple net leases, meaning that we recover our common area expenses, real estate taxes, and insurance costs from our tenants. And I'll also mention that over the last few years, our recovery percentage has been in the mid- to high 80s. And that should move up along with our occupancy as our occupancy increases. From one quarter to next, we do have increases and decreases based on some degree of seasonality with utilities and timing of repairs.

  • And the utilities typically are the highest in the summer months, which is the third quarter in Houston and well, just in Texas and in Arizona. And we did have, however, repair cost in the third quarter as well. But if you take a look at the operations expense just as a percentage of revenue on a year-to-date basis, it's around 18% so far this year, which is the same as it was in 2021. And so for the full year of 2022, I expect it to remain around 18%.

  • Operator

  • The next question we have is from Gaurav Mehta from EF Hutton.

  • Gaurav Mehta - Research Analyst

  • In your prepared remarks, you talked about lowering leverage long-term as one of the company's goals. Can you maybe help us understand how you plan to lower the leverage and what your long-term targets are as far as leverage?

  • David K. Holeman - CEO & Director

  • I'll start. This is Dave. I'll start and Scott may want to add some further comments. But I think the key answer is really we're doing that from operations with a focus on really growing our EBITDA and using excess cash to create additional EBITDA or reduce debt. If you look at our debt leverage this year. I think for the 9 months, we're down to debt-to-EBITDA about 7.9%. That's down from above 9% a year ago. So we believe just by focusing on organic growth, we can reduce that debt to EBITDA measure significantly. We've set a target of, I think, 7 turns by end of '23, and we expect to be down into the 7s by end of this year.

  • Gaurav Mehta - Research Analyst

  • Okay. Second question on your G&A. You guys lowered the G&A guidance for 2022. Was there any one-time item driving that? Or do you think that's like the long-term run rate going forward?

  • J. Scott Hogan - CFO

  • We -- so the -- this is Scott. In the first quarter, we did have $0.04 of non-recurring G&A savings associated with the exit of some of the existing executives at the time. I expect the G&A cost to hover right around the high $4 million to $5 million range going forward. We may have some puts and takes in legal costs associated with litigation with our CEO and with Pillarstone, but I do expect the G&A savings to continue.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). The next question we have is from Craig Kucera from B. Riley.

  • Craig Gerald Kucera - Senior Research Analyst

  • I believe earlier in the year, you mentioned that you're looking at selling some assets potentially in the back half of the year, perhaps recycling $50 million. And I know you discussed more challenging market conditions for transactions, but I'd be curious, at the time, you thought you'd be able to get a pretty meaningful cap rate arbitrage. Are you seeing, as you evaluate those opportunities that same spread or have things tightened? Just any color there on the transaction front would be helpful.

  • David K. Holeman - CEO & Director

  • Craig, it's Dave. Thanks for the question. I think the comment I'll give on the transaction activity is probably similar to what you're hearing from others. It's fairly shallow. There's less deals in the market right now. Obviously, lots of dislocation potentially between [bid and ask]. But we are progressing on our recycling efforts and really look forward to sharing that with you probably next quarter as we move to closure.

  • So I think we had identified a small amount, a target of around $50 million in dispositions and then obviously looking to redeploy that. We're finding 1031 money that's out there still. So a little bit smaller assets are still in the market. There still are buyers that have 1031 money that needs to be put to work. So I'd love to give you more, but I can't get ahead of myself. We'll have more to share on that in the coming months. But we are on track with what we said we would do this year and look forward to sharing more details.

  • Craig Gerald Kucera - Senior Research Analyst

  • Okay. Great. And just one more for me. On the dividend, I think right now, you're paying out about 50% of FFO, which is quite a bit below where it was prior to the pandemic. How is the Board thinking about managing the dividend going forward? Is that just to grow with earnings? Or is there room to maybe see the dividend outstrip earnings growth going forward?

  • David K. Holeman - CEO & Director

  • Good question, Craig. I'll start. And once again, Scott may have something to add. But I think when we look at the dividend, we're looking at, obviously, our tax requirement as a REIT as one of the key criteria. We're looking at capital allocation, as Scott said. We've got some great opportunities in the portfolio to invest and drive value. So our Board is looking at our dividend level in light of our tax requirement in light of our FFO level and then in light of obviously the different options for that cash. We do think there's room to grow the dividend in sync with our earnings growth. But I think we're comfortable with our dividend level. We'll continue to monitor the taxable income. And then we've got some great opportunities as well for some of the development opportunities that will create a lot of value.

  • Operator

  • The final question we have is from Michael Diana from Maxim Group.

  • Michael Keelan Diana - MD

  • Okay. More on Pillarstone and your dispositions, is there -- because of your leverage considerations, is there a linkage there between your ability to dispose of assets and your development and redevelopment? Or are you also thinking or considering or working on bringing in partners for your development and redevelopment?

  • David K. Holeman - CEO & Director

  • Thanks, Michael. I think when we think about the dispositions and the investment in Pillarstone, I think that is just available capital that we can redeploy in a way that creates more value. We do have a significant positive cash flow that we're able to invest in some of these smaller projects as well. So I think when you look at our opportunities, many of the development, redevelopment pad site opportunities we can fund from organic cash flow as well as a little bit of recycling. We do have a couple of larger development opportunities in the portfolio that we're working towards activating and those might involve a partner we're looking through the best ways. A couple of those potentially are putting some residential in line with the retail. But we're looking to continue to move forward on those. But most of our development opportunities, the smaller wins we can do from organic cash flow, not a lot of capital needed.

  • Michael Keelan Diana - MD

  • Okay. Great. And is there any consideration to disposing of your Chicago communities?

  • David K. Holeman - CEO & Director

  • I think what we do is just like you would do with a stock portfolio, we look at all of our holdings, and we determine which ones we can -- it's the right time to monetize. So the Chicago asset is absolutely in our list with all our properties. It is outside of our footprint, but it's a very well-operating center, but it is under consideration as well.

  • Operator

  • Thank you, sir. At this stage, there are no further questions. I would like to turn the floor back over to Dave Holeman for closing [points]. Please go ahead, sir.

  • David K. Holeman - CEO & Director

  • Thank you, operator. I'd just like to thank everyone on the call today for joining us. We appreciate your interest in Whitestone and are very pleased with the progress we're making. If we can help further don't hesitate to reach out to David Mordy or any of us on the executive team. Have a great day.

  • Operator

  • Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, that then concludes today's conference. Thank you for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines.