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  • Operator

  • Greetings and welcome to the Whitestone REIT fourth‑quarter 2025 earnings conference call. (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce David Mordy, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

  • David Mordy - Investor Relations

  • Good morning, and thank you for joining Whitestone REIT’s fourth‑quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Joining me on today's call are Dave Holeman, Chief Executive Officer; Christine Mastandrea, President and Chief Operating Officer; and Scott Hogan, Chief Financial Officer. Please note that some statements made during this call are not historical and may be deemed forward‑looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those forward‑looking statements due to a number of risks, uncertainties, and other factors. Please refer to the company's earnings news release and filings with the SEC, including Whitestone's most recent Form 10‑K and 10‑Q, for a detailed discussion of these factors.

  • Acknowledging the fact that this call may be webcast for a period of time, it is also important to note that this call includes time‑sensitive information that may be accurate only as of today's date, February 26, 2026. The company undertakes no obligation to update this information.

  • Whitestone's fourth‑quarter earnings news release and supplemental operating and financial data package have been filed with the SEC and are available on our website in the Investor Relations section. We published fourth‑quarter 2025 slides on our website yesterday afternoon, which highlight topics to be discussed today. I will now turn the call over to Dave Holeman, our Chief Executive Officer.

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • Thank you, David. Good morning, and thank you for joining Whitestone’s fourth‑quarter 2025 earnings conference call. I'll get right into the key results and then spend a little time on our long‑term focus.

  • For 2025, we delivered $1.05 Core FFO per share. This is up from $0.86 in 2021, which was the year prior to my appointment as CEO and the reshaping of the leadership team. This represents a 5% CAGR, and we did that while strengthening our balance sheet, as evidenced by our Debt‑to‑EBITDAre metric improving from 9.1x for the full year 2021 to 7.0x for the full year 2025. In addition, we overcame interest‑rate headwinds with an $0.11 per share step‑up in interest expense between 2022 and 2023.

  • Given that we have interest rates fixed on the bulk of our loans, minimal debt maturities until 2029, one of the strongest leasing environments I have ever seen, and a great team, we have very good visibility into the next three years and are very confident in our ability to generate long‑term 5% to 7% Core FFO‑per‑share growth. Today, we'll talk about some non‑FFO benefits we plan on delivering for investors, primarily gaining scale and enhancing the long‑term value of our real estate, but know that delivering consistent Core FFO growth is our North Star.

  • For 2025, we delivered 4% Same‑Store NOI growth. We delivered this through a combination of strong contractual escalators in excess of 2%, leasing success with straight‑line leasing spreads above 19%, and targeted redevelopment with projects typically delivering double‑digit yields. We’re issuing Same‑Store NOI growth guidance of 3% to 4.75% for 2026, and we expect to deliver with the same combination of drivers that allowed us to deliver in 2025.

  • During the fourth quarter, we acquired World Cup Plaza in Plano, a highly affluent Dallas submarket and one where we are gaining synergies from our concentration of properties there, with World Cup Plaza in close proximity to our Starwood and Lakeside properties. In addition, in the fourth quarter, we acquired Ashford Village, anchored by Houston’s largest Japanese grocer and in close proximity to the Ashford Yard development, a mixed‑use project currently underway on the former Schlumberger campus. We also disposed of Kempwood Plaza, another of our legacy properties, during the fourth quarter. Kempwood Plaza is located in Houston.

  • Whitestone’s acquisition and disposition strategy is designed around identifying and then remaining cognizant of the gap between neighborhood strength and tenant strength. We identify properties where that gap is significant, and then our leasing team goes to work to close that gap. If we feel that the gap no longer exists, especially if it is the result of neighborhood demand growth slowing, a property becomes a candidate for disposition.

  • You may notice we’ve significantly increased our Green Street TAP Score over the past four years, which is an indication that we’re going after higher‑end neighborhoods with greater discretionary spending capability. We anticipate this will serve investors well in various economic cycles, and it is more manageable as we scale. However, the biggest value to be gained is not because of the overall level of our TAP Score, but rather our ability to identify and acquire properties where we can improve a tenant base that lags that TAP Score.

  • Over the past three years, we've acquired approximately $213 million in properties, which provides our leasing team with great opportunities to generate earnings growth. We are capable of increasing that volume handled by both our acquisitions and leasing teams, and we'll look for ways to increase that volume while achieving our long‑term Core FFO‑per‑share growth target and continuing to strengthen our balance sheet with continued improvement in our Debt‑to‑EBITDAre ratio.

  • Our focus on shop space delivers two additional primary benefits. Shop space requires less capital spend versus the bigger boxes, allowing us to deliver Same‑Store NOI growth while operating at the low end of the capital‑spending spectrum. In addition, when paired with robust tenant selection and underwriting, our nearly 1,500 tenants provide greater durability of cash flow and greater risk dispersion.

  • Supply‑demand conditions within our footprint remain strong, with a limited supply of neighborhood centers coming onto the market and demand continuing to increase. Foot traffic to our centers was up 3.9% year over year, and our leasing pipeline remains robust. Our team remains very engaged in looking at ways to generate shareholder value and continue to outperform the market the way we’ve done over the last several years.

  • With that, I’ll turn things over to Christine to share more specifics on results and our focus on increasing the value of our real estate. Christine?

  • Christine Mastandrea - Chief Operating Officer

  • Good morning.

  • We delivered strong, consistent results for 2025. We hit a record occupancy of 94.6% and delivered 4% Same‑Store NOI growth for the year. Combined straight‑line leasing spreads for the fourth quarter were 18.2% to 25.9% for new leases and 16.6% for renewals. This is our 15th consecutive quarter with leasing spreads in excess of 17%.

  • One of the key initiatives this management team focused on immediately after the 2022 transition was our Quality of Revenue initiative, pushing to ensure high‑quality, fast‑growing businesses throughout the portfolio. We are already renewing many of the leases from 2022, and the releasing rates we are achieving are a testament to the strength of the businesses we’ve matched to the neighborhoods surrounding our centers. Our consistently high leasing spreads reveal the competitive advantage of our model and the expertise of our leasing team.

  • We drove bad debt down to 0.55% for 2025, less than half the rate seen in years prior to the pandemic. Getting down to these levels reflects our tenant selection, our underwriting, and the expectations we set with our tenants. We believe we have one of the lowest bad‑debt levels for shop space across the peer set.

  • Over the past four years, we’ve set out to prove that our geography and focus on actively managing a high percentage of shop space allows us to outperform larger peers. Accordingly, we focused heavily on annual financial metrics and on continuing to deliver for investors on those metrics.

  • This morning, I want to stress that delivering those results goes hand in hand with a strategy that enhances the long‑term value of our real estate. We have a plan for every property in our portfolio, and each plan incorporates anticipated demographic changes and expected nearby urban development, with a re‑contracting plan designed to bring tenants up to speed with the demand generated by the surrounding neighborhood.

  • When we acquire properties, we look for centers with a large delta between the strength of the neighborhood and the in‑place tenants. Earnings growth is accelerated as we close that gap. Let me be clear: we are able to close that gap more quickly and effectively because of how we do business and because of the team we’ve built.

  • At times, redevelopment is a tool to help close the gap, but the overarching goal in long‑term value creation is upgrading the tenant base to match the neighborhood and successfully serve customers and clients. A prime example is Heritage Trace Plaza in Fort Worth. We purchased Heritage Trace in 2014, recognizing the rapid growth of the Alliance Corridor in North Fort Worth.

  • In 2022, HEB, the second‑largest private employer in Texas and one of the state’s most dominant grocers, announced plans to open a store across from Heritage Trace. HEB made this decision due to the increasingly dense concentration of young, upwardly mobile families in the area—something we recognized early when we acquired the property. Accordingly, we refocused our plan to take advantage of increased traffic and demographic tailwinds.

  • The center developed strong traffic from parents returning home from work. Consequently, we took back a larger space in 2024 from a challenged fitness studio that had abandoned the center since acquisition and created seven spaces in its place. Six of the seven were leased immediately in 2025, doubling the base rental rate to approximately $34 per square foot. Overall, we anticipate increasing the center’s NOI by 30% between 2022 and 2026.

  • Our work is nowhere near done, as nearly 50% of the center’s leases come due within the next three years, and we will continually review every tenant to ensure they keep up with the speed of growth in the area and the demography it represents. This type of plan exists for every center, whether upgrading restaurants, adding pad sites, adjusting layouts, or introducing amenities such as rooftop pickleball, as we relentlessly pursue enhancing asset value.

  • Two acquisitions with rapid development potential similar to Heritage Trace are Arcadia Town Center in Phoenix and Garden Oaks in Houston. Arcadia is anchored near Paradise Valley, one of the wealthiest U.S. suburbs, with home values increasing at double‑digit rates. The former Paradise Valley Mall is being redeveloped into a $2.2 billion mixed‑use project, and Arcadia is positioned to capitalize on spillover growth.

  • Similarly, Garden Oaks is benefiting from the expansion of The Heights and significant redevelopment along Shepherd Drive. Target anticipates opening a new store next to Garden Oaks in early 2027, and we are evaluating pad site options and re‑merchandising opportunities to unlock value.

  • Let me expand a bit on the record 94.6% occupancy we hit at the end of 2025. This included strong leasing activity right up to year‑end. I signed a lease at 11:23 P.M. on December 31. Our redevelopment CapEx in 2025 was approximately $5 million, with completed projects at Williams Trace, La Mirada, and Lion Square. We have added more redevelopment projects, including Garden Oaks, and we have a multi‑year forecast of $20 million to $30 million in redevelopment spend plus pad additions each year. Last year we added several pads and anticipate continuing that pace.

  • I'd like to thank the leasing, redevelopment, and property management teams for everything they delivered in 2025. Our teams continue to elevate the performance every year, sharpening their plans for our center, adapting to change, and making sure our tenants see the value in operating from a Whitestone property. Their success is our success. In addition, the hard work not only allowed us to deliver in 2025, but lines up the company for continued growth in years ahead.

  • Scott?

  • J. Scott Hogan - Chief Financial Officer

  • We delivered very strong results for both the fourth quarter and for the year. We delivered $1.05 in Core FFO per share versus $1.01 in 2024, representing 4% growth. In 2024 we had above‑average termination fees, which is part of the reason we grew Core FFO per share by 11% in 2024. Those termination fees were at a normal level for 2025, $0.02 less than 2024.

  • The bi‑quarter breakdown for 2025's Core FFO was $0.25, $0.26, $0.26, and $0.28. That’s about what we anticipated in terms of seeing growth during the year, with some additional revenues in the fourth quarter, including percent‑of‑sales clauses that typically help accelerate things in the fourth quarter. You should anticipate a similar distribution in 2026.

  • We delivered Same‑Store NOI growth of 3.8% for the fourth quarter and 4% for the full year. Our 3% to 4.75% Same‑Store NOI growth forecast is a ground‑up NOI‑by‑tenant forecast for 2026 that incorporates what we're seeing in terms of macroeconomic conditions. Meanwhile, the longer 3% to 5% growth is based upon what we've been able to achieve historically and incorporates the longer‑term benefits of redevelopment projects we have underway.

  • Same‑Store NOI growth is the primary driver for our Core FFO‑per‑share growth and gives us the confidence to lay out our 5% to 7% growth target in 2026 and the longer term. Occupancy came in at 94.6%, and as a reminder, we only include tenants in our occupancy when they take possession, not when the contract is signed. Both our process and our heavier mix of shop‑space tenants equate to a much lower signed‑not‑open list, and we view the quicker turnaround as one of our competitive advantages.

  • This is record occupancy for Whitestone, and we were able to move it to that level by having a long‑term vision for our properties rather than taking short‑term occupancy wins. Christine covered our redevelopment capital. We’ve underwritten double‑digit unlevered IRRs on those outlays, and we generally view redevelopment as low‑risk, high‑return investments.

  • On the balance‑sheet front, we finished the year with Debt-to-EBITDA are at 7 times, despite acquisitions being greater than dispositions in 2025 by approximately $56 million. In terms of Whitestone’s liquidity, we have $7.4 million in cash and $220 million available under the credit facility. In 2025, cash flow from operations was $50.8 million and dividends were $27.8 million, leaving strong cash flow after dividends to fund growth.

  • We have no maturities in 2026 and $80 million in maturities in 2027, so we have a very clear runway in terms of our need to access the debt markets over the next two years. We’ve increased our dividend by 5.6% for the first quarter of 2026. Our intent is to continue growing the dividend in line with Core FFO growth.

  • Whitestone’s dividend remains one of the most secure, highest‑growing dividends within the peer group, and we believe we have the right plan in place to continue the growth trajectory while maintaining our payout ratio.

  • And with that, we’ll open the line for questions.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions)

  • Mitch Germain, Citizens.

  • Mitch Germain - Analyst

  • Good morning. You guys had the final settlement with Pillarstone in the back part, I guess the last week of the year. Just maybe talk about how that payment impacted your balance sheet and what are the different puts or takes we need to be aware of in terms of maybe pro forma, you know, what changes occurred so late in the year.

  • J. Scott Hogan - Chief Financial Officer

  • Hi Mitch, it's Scott. We, day one, took those proceeds and paid down the credit facility. And going forward, we'll evaluate acquisitions and dispositions as the opportunities become available. So, I would think about it as simply an improvement to the balance sheet, an improvement to leverage on day one. And then, as we always do, we'll make capital allocation decisions based on the opportunities as we proceed through 2026, 2027, and beyond.

  • Mitch Germain - Analyst

  • Got you. Okay, what’s the G&A guide for the year?

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • Hey Mitch, it’s Dave. I want to make sure I answer your question. Could you say that one more time?

  • Mitch Germain - Analyst

  • G&A. You didn’t include that in your guidance this year. Historically you have. Any idea of where things can shake out over the course of 2026?

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • Sure. We obviously look at the guidance we give and the underlying metrics. I think we've just continued to refine that a little bit, but I think you should expect G&A to be at similar levels. No major changes there other than the normal horizon. Scott can add anything, but there always is some volatility with items like legal costs. Right now, we expect a similar G&A level with normal cost‑of‑living increases.

  • J. Scott Hogan - Chief Financial Officer

  • Mitch, we just haven't been as granular as our earnings have become more predictable, and so I would expect similar levels with some kind of CPI increase.

  • Mitch Germain - Analyst

  • Got you. Okay. Last one for me. Obviously an inline quarter, so congrats with that. Your guidance was $1.03 to $1.07, and your result came in at the low end of that range. All of the various assumptions that you provided, including Same‑Store, occupancy, G&A, and interest, you kind of hit the midpoint on all of them. And I recognize your comments, Scott, about the cadence of earnings per share increasing as the year went on. What I am trying to understand is whether $0.28 is the starting point now. Are we growing from that level, or did some of the occupancy come on late in the quarter and you didn’t get the full benefit of that? I’m just trying to understand how we should be thinking about first quarter and beyond.

  • J. Scott Hogan - Chief Financial Officer

  • You lost me a little bit there, Mitch, because it sounded like you were talking about the 2025 guidance coming in at the low end, and I think we came in at the midpoint, $1.05. And the 2026 guidance is $1.10 to $1.14. Did I --

  • Mitch Germain - Analyst

  • No, you’re right. Actually, you’re right on the $1.05. My apologies. But let’s say we start at $0.28. Am I growing from that $0.28? Is that the way to think about the cadence for 2026?

  • J. Scott Hogan - Chief Financial Officer

  • Well, our long‑term growth, we feel very confident that it is going to be 5% to 7%. How it is distributed between each year is a little tougher to determine because of the timing of redevelopment projects and acquisitions and dispositions. But longer term, we are very comfortable with 5% to 7%.

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • And Mitch, on the quarterly cadence, I think Scott gave some indication. The fourth quarter does tend to be a little higher because we have percent‑of‑rent clauses come in. And if you look at the cadence this year, it was increasing. I think you would expect to see something similar in 2026. So, I do not know if it is completely accurate to say you're just jumping off the $0.28 in the fourth quarter. I think you're jumping off the annual amount with normal quarterly cadence.

  • Mitch Germain - Analyst

  • Got you.

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • I thought you were talking about 2028 when you said 28.

  • Mitch Germain - Analyst

  • No, thank you. Dave, got it. I appreciate you guys.

  • David Mordy - Investor Relations

  • Thanks, Mitch.

  • Operator

  • Floris van Dijkum, Ladenburg.

  • Floris Van Dijkum - Equity Analyst

  • Hey guys, thanks. Could you maybe quantify what your signed‑not‑open pipeline is? I know you report physical occupancy, unlike peers who tend to report leased occupancy and then provide physical occupancy. If you could give us a sense of what your leased occupancy is in terms of percentage, and maybe also the value of the ABR that you've got signed.

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • Hey Floris, it’s Dave. Hope you're doing well. Thanks for the question.

  • Historically, we have not reported signed‑not‑open because our model is different and we move quicker than some of our peers. We typically have shorter, smaller spaces and shorter leases and are able to commence leases very quickly. We just have not reported it because it is not a significant number for us since tenants move in quickly. On an editorial level, people report signed‑not‑open, but there is always a moving‑out list that nobody reports. For us, we report commenced occupancy, and at any point in time we have smaller tenants signing and moving in quickly.

  • Floris Van Dijkum - Equity Analyst

  • But would you say that based on leasing demand today, your leased occupancy is probably higher than the typical SNO pipeline of about 50 basis points? Is it higher today than it has been historically?

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • I think the leasing environment is very good. Our leasing traction is improving, so I think the general answer would be, if anything, it is growing or getting better, although we are moving very quickly. So the signed‑not‑open number is just a status of the process. We are moving quickly to get those folks commencing and paying rent, but I think your point is that our signed‑not‑open pipeline would be, if anything, growing because we are having great progress.

  • Floris Van Dijkum - Equity Analyst

  • Thanks, Dave. Now maybe another question. In terms of the fourth quarter average rent that you signed at $32.58, when I compare that to your average ABR for the whole portfolio, there is about a 28% delta. I know quarterly things can be tricky, but is that what people should think about in terms of mark‑to‑market if the portfolio were to be marked to market today?

  • J. Scott Hogan - Chief Financial Officer

  • Hi Floris, it’s Scott. As Dave said, the leasing pipeline is strong and we have great demand in our markets. I think the best place to look in terms of what to expect in increases is our leasing spreads. Our overall leasing spreads for the fourth quarter were 18.2%, and I think we said that for 15 quarters they have been 17% or higher, so leasing demand is strong. There is always a mix issue. I think in the fourth quarter we may have had more smaller tenants than you have throughout the rest of the year, which would explain why it is a bit higher than our average rents. But I would look to the leasing spreads for an indication of what you would look for going forward.

  • Floris Van Dijkum - Equity Analyst

  • Thanks, Scott. And maybe my last question. What is your shop occupancy today? How is that relative to historical levels and how does that compare to your anchor occupancy today?

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • Yeah, it’s on the -- We’re flipping here. It’s on the first page of the earnings release, so I think we -- I do this by memory. I don’t have it in front of me, but we are -- Scott may have it. I think we’re 50 bps or 60 bps up on the small space year over year, as well as about a similar amount on the large -- larger spaces. Scott, you got those actual numbers?

  • J. Scott Hogan - Chief Financial Officer

  • Here you go.

  • David Mordy - Investor Relations

  • Oh, thanks. Yeah, so we’re at 97.7% on the larger spaces versus 97.4% a year ago. The smaller spaces 92.7%, up 60 bps from 92.1% a year ago. So we’re continuing to see good movement in both of our spaces.

  • Floris Van Dijkum - Equity Analyst

  • Yeah, and both of them, you mentioned overall occupancy, physical occupancy is at record levels. Both of those would be at physical. That’s what I was trying to get at. Apologies, I probably wasn’t very clear. Are both of those at record levels, or is there more upside, and where and how much higher do you think you can push occupancy?

  • Christine Mastandrea - Chief Operating Officer

  • I think it’s -- I think we can get to the averages of our peers, but I continue to say this, I’ll take back space where I can and put it back to work for more profitability wherever I’m able to. I will say that probably over the last couple of years I’ve been actively being able to do that in the portfolio as we strengthen the quality of revenue, there’s less opportunity to do so, but our renewals and again new leasing spreads, I think, are going to continue going out the next couple of quarters and really into the next couple of years just because there’s no new product being built into the markets that we’re in.

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • I think that the small spaces are the ones where we’re going to continue to see the ability to move. I mean, historically, as Floris, people always talked about small spaces and lower occupancy. I think that that paradigm is shifting. I think you’re going to see the small spaces bumping up to the larger‑space kind of occupancy levels as we move forward. So that’s one that will continue to move up. We do think there’s opportunity. There’s no reason to have a significant amount of vacancy in your small spaces. So we’re making progress there, and I think that’s one we’ll see moving. Obviously, the larger spaces are closer to 100% to 98% or so; that’s a little more difficult.

  • Floris Van Dijkum - Equity Analyst

  • Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Gaurav Mehta, Alliance Global Partners.

  • Gaurav Mehta - Equity Analyst

  • Yeah, thank you, good morning. I wanted to ask you on the two acquisitions that you made in the quarter, can you maybe talk about any upside in those properties, maybe on mark‑to‑market rent or on the occupancy side?

  • Christine Mastandrea - Chief Operating Officer

  • Yeah, I’d say with Ashford, that’s an area where it’s in the path of growth, so this is not that far from I‑10 and the Energy Corridor, and it’s a very healthy neighborhood that has good housing stock, and what we’ve been watching is seeing the improvement in the homes in the area. So, I think for that, that’s going to be just trading space into a rising income.

  • And then if I look at World Cup Plaza, that’s more of a re‑merchandizing effort, so I think this is one where we can really reposition that property -- just because it’s along the highway and it has such a high VPD count compared to others, that would be more of a re‑merchandizing. Yeah, and same thing, we’re already starting that process now with that property versus Ashford will be a natural -- I think in the natural path of growth, and so you’ll -- every time a lease turns, we’ll be able to do a renewal at a much higher rate.

  • Gaurav Mehta - Equity Analyst

  • Okay, the second question I have is on the same‑property expenses that you reported in this quarter. It seems like they were up 30% on the property operations and maintenance side. Can you provide some color on what drove the expenses higher?

  • J. Scott Hogan - Chief Financial Officer

  • Yeah, there’s always some timing in there. We, at the portfolio level, recover about 93% of property expenses, so those were just planned maintenance. Painting properties, parking lot repairs, those sorts of things. So sometimes you have more in one quarter than the other, but I don’t think it would be indicative of a run rate for the portfolio. It’s just a timing thing in 2025.

  • Gaurav Mehta - Equity Analyst

  • Okay, all right, thank you, that’s all I had.

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Jay Kornreich, Cantor.

  • Jay Kornreich - Analyst

  • Hi, good morning. Just wanted to follow up on the comments around the record occupancy levels, which is clearly showing the strength of your shopping centers. But I guess I wondered, with the high occupancy, does that imply maybe some of the shopping centers are closer to maxing out what their occupancy limits are, and maybe some of these centers are more ripe for value creation, asset recycling, or do you feel like there’s just enough leasing power and still some occupancy left that you’re happy with the current portfolio you have?

  • Christine Mastandrea - Chief Operating Officer

  • So I think there’s still a long -- so we always look at assets as we purchase them to where we get to maturity with them. So in the beginning— and this is -- you’ve seen in the capital recycling that we’ve been doing, especially when I talk about this -- when we’re doing a re‑merchandizing effort or buy an asset that’s in the path of growth, they may have a higher occupancy level, but I have the opportunity to raise rents even based on an asset that’s in place or in a re‑merchandizing, and then also, like I said, at points in time we’ll take space back. So, I don’t see it topping out yet really for the next couple of years, and I also think because these are all in infill markets, there’s not a lot available for competition, so I think we still have room to go.

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • Hey, Jay. The only thing I might add is I think we -- in our remarks -- we talked about how we look at the surrounding neighborhood really as the biggest driver. I think when we look at acquisitions and dispositions, that’s kind of one of the huge factors -- looking at surrounding neighborhoods. So we think that even the properties that are 100%. As Christine said, we see growing neighborhoods, we see areas where you’re seeing household incomes grow, discretionary spending grow, and the ability to move rent.

  • We will look at -- just like we’ve done our portfolio and look for candidates to dispose and recycle capital. I think in our investor deck on page 10 we’ve got a lot of detail we provide to the investment community about what we’re selling and what we’re buying. So we’ll continue to look for those opportunities. But largely our properties are in great, growing areas where we see, even with high occupancy levels, the ability to move rent.

  • Jay Kornreich - Analyst

  • Great, appreciate that color. And then just one follow‑up. You’ve outlined the $20 million to $30 million for redevelopment opportunities and I think five potential pad sites. Is there any possibility of any of those coming online in 2026?

  • Christine Mastandrea - Chief Operating Officer

  • Yeah, we’re always doing about two to three pads a year, and I think we’re right on track this year with doing three. That’s -- it’s really -- it’s more of a double -- we look for a double‑digit yield on incremental capital for those. That’s just more or less getting the approval -- depends on the cost for utilities and adjustment for grade on the site. But those are really easy to pop out with the larger developments, and this is something that we’re starting to project out for, in the sense that we’ve gotten the approvals for additional GLA in a number of sites, and we already have gone in for design and permitting on some of these.

  • It’s really a question of making sure that we strike when the returns are in the right place with construction costs. And how we look at this is that we do this in phases, that way we can horizontally manage the risk because again it’s an expansion of a property with additional GLA. So I don’t see that coming on necessarily this year, but if some of it does, it’d be later in the year.

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • Great, thanks very much.

  • David Mordy - Investor Relations

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Craig Kucera, Lucid Capital Markets.

  • Craig Kucera - Equity Analyst

  • Hey, good morning guys. Scott, you kind of touched on this a few times, but I’d be curious to hear the breakout in the fourth quarter of some percentage rent, and maybe were there any lease terminations as well, just because your base rent was a little higher than we were looking for.

  • J. Scott Hogan - Chief Financial Officer

  • I'm sorry, the what was a little higher? The --

  • Craig Kucera - Equity Analyst

  • Basically, your rent was a little higher. I’m just trying to figure out how much of that was percentage rents. Were there any lease terminations, any other one‑timers?

  • J. Scott Hogan - Chief Financial Officer

  • There’re always some lease terminations. We didn’t have any large lease terminations in the fourth quarter of 2025 like we did in 2024. There’s normally somewhere around a million dollars of percentage rent in the fourth quarter. I don’t have the number in front of me $800,000, $900,000, $1 million in the fourth quarter, so a penny or two of percentage rent normally in the fourth quarter.

  • Craig Kucera - Equity Analyst

  • Okay, that’s helpful. Ballpark is good enough. And I guess, based on your commentary, it doesn’t sound like there’s a lot of anticipation for additional occupancy, but I’d be curious in the guidance— how much of that is for occupancy gains, or is that pretty much the strength of rent growth and leasing?

  • J. Scott Hogan - Chief Financial Officer

  • It’s primarily the strength of rent growth and leasing, not occupancy gains.

  • Craig Kucera - Equity Analyst

  • Okay, that’s helpful. And just one more for me -- clearly you had a pickup in acquisitions this year. I’d be curious to hear about the volume of deals you’re seeing and maybe the appetite you have given the existing liquidity you have, or -- You mentioned, Dave, you might be recycling some capital later this year.

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • Yeah, hey, thanks, Craig. We did see a bit of a pickup. I think we did close to $100 million in acquisitions this year, which is slightly up. We did that largely with recycling and then obviously putting some of the Pillarstone settlement proceeds to work, so we are seeing opportunities in our market.

  • I think one of the comments I made in my earlier remarks was looking forward to opportunities to scale and grow the platform. We are seeing a little bit more activity in the market; it continues to be a very tight market with limited supply of retail. We are out there looking for opportunities, looking in the current markets we’re in. We look for assets that are a little different. If you look at what we’ve bought versus some of our peers, potentially a little smaller asset. We’d love to find assets with hair; those are harder and harder to find. But we’re finding ones where we can move the rents largely from a re‑tenanting, re‑merchandizing.

  • I would say what we’re seeing in the market is slightly positive and slightly up. I think our appetite for growth is there, but what will always guide us is disciplined capital allocation, and growing earnings and growing the value of the property. We do think there are opportunities to grow and scale and look at different ways to do that, but we’re always going to be guided by our target to grow earnings and grow value, not just to grow for growth’s sake.

  • Craig Kucera - Equity Analyst

  • Okay, thanks. That's all my questions.

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • John Massocca, B. Riley Securities.

  • John Massocca - Equity Analyst

  • Good morning.

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • Morning, John.

  • John Massocca - Equity Analyst

  • Maybe looking at the redevelopment slide in the investor deck a little more, you kind of mentioned there’s potential for 1% kind of boost to Same‑Store NOI growth from redevelopment. Is much of that already flowing into the expectations you have for 2026 Same‑Store NOI growth, or could that be additive, particularly if we use your 2026 guidance as a run rate for longer‑term, portfolio‑level growth?

  • J. Scott Hogan - Chief Financial Officer

  • Hey John, it’s Scott. I think it would be mainly beyond 2026 that we’re going to see the benefit of those redevelopment opportunities.

  • Christine Mastandrea - Chief Operating Officer

  • Hold on. I’ve got to clarify that there’s development and redevelopment. We do a number of redevelopments every year, usually about two to three a year. The redevelopments do flow into this year and next year. Development’s a little different; that just has a little more future because it takes a little more time to get it out of the ground.

  • John Massocca - Equity Analyst

  • Okay. Is that, so is that 1% that's kind of being talked about in the deck, more on maybe the full ground-up pad site level, or is that including some of the things that are a little more, you know?

  • Christine Mastandrea - Chief Operating Officer

  • It's both.

  • John Massocca - Equity Analyst

  • Traditional development.

  • Christine Mastandrea - Chief Operating Officer

  • Like I said, we do usually two to three pads a year, and in addition to that, we do two to three redevelopments, and with that we get a much larger bump in rents whenever we do a redevelopment. So we just finished Lion Square, starting into Garden Oaks. We finished La Morada. All that starts flowing into this year, and then I would anticipate that Garden Oaks would flow into 2027 and so on.

  • John Massocca - Equity Analyst

  • Okay. I guess with something like Lion Square or, you know, even Garden Oaks, you mentioned a little bit, but, like, does that kind of click on relatively immediately after the redevelopment spend is completed, or does it take a couple of leasing cycles for you to see the full uplift from that spend?

  • Christine Mastandrea - Chief Operating Officer

  • It depends on each one. For example, with Lion Square, we actually got the grocer in there before we started the redevelopment, so it can be -- as we start into the process of the redevelopment, if there’s a significant re‑merchandizing that goes with it, we actually start it even before the redevelopment takes place. So, it depends.

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • But I do think that’s a key component of our timing of redevelopment. We look for a center that’s got the ability to move the rent when the maturities are coming. It’s not immediate, but we look for the ability to move it pretty quickly. We try to time that with where we have the ability. We’re not doing redevelopment where you have tenants locked down for multiple years and you can’t make the changes we’re looking for, right?

  • Christine Mastandrea - Chief Operating Officer

  • Yeah, no, that's --

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • We're looking for --

  • Christine Mastandrea - Chief Operating Officer

  • We’re looking at -- Like I said, Garden Oaks, we wanted to make sure that Target was coming online before we started that move. Now with the Target coming in, we’ll start the redevelopment process and we’ll start the re‑tenanting. So we keep the in‑place cash flow, reduce the risk, and then bring it along. We did the same thing with Lakeside too, where we waited for the HEB to come online, started to spend just before HEB came online, then started re‑tenanting while HEB was coming out of the ground. So we try to time these things the best so we can get the best IRRs.

  • John Massocca - Equity Analyst

  • Okay, and then in terms of occupancy, should we expect some, I guess, seasonality in Q1? I just know it tends to be when some of the re‑tenanting in the in‑place portfolio is in full swing, so just kind of curious what the expectations are on a super short‑term basis for occupancy.

  • Christine Mastandrea - Chief Operating Officer

  • I think it goes the same way. The last couple of years we were more active in taking back space because it was the right time to do it in the portfolio, and there was -- I think again, a significant upside with improving the revenue on some of the poor‑performing tenants. I see that less so, but it might still be -- the end of the year is just the season of leasing and how things get executed at the end of the year always seems to have a heavier uplift. But that’s because of the leasing activity that’s taken place in the first and second quarter.

  • We know what it’s going to look like toward the end of the year because of the timing, but just to say, leasing has a seasonal factor to it.

  • John Massocca - Equity Analyst

  • Okay. Appreciate the color. That's it for me. Thank you.

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • Thanks, John.

  • Operator

  • I would like to turn the floor over to Dave Holeman for closing remarks.

  • David Holeman - Chief Executive Officer, Trustee

  • Thank you, this is Dave. Thank you again for joining us on the call today. We’re very pleased with the progress and performance of the business and the strength of our markets and tenants. I would tell you, I think we’re off to a great start in 2026, and we look forward to seeing many of you over the coming months. With that, this concludes our call. Thank you and have a great day.

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