Westlake Corp (WLK) 2015 Q2 法說會逐字稿

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Westlake Chemical Corporation second-quarter 2015 earnings conference call.

(Operator Instructions)

I would now like to turn the call over to today's host Dave Hansen, Westlake's Senior Vice President of Administration. Sir, you may begin.

Thank you very much. Good morning everyone and welcome to the Westlake Chemical Corporation's second-quarter 2015 conference call.

I am joined today by Albert Chao, our President and CEO, Steve Bender, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and other members of our Management team. The conference agenda will begin with Albert, who will open with a few comments regarding Westlake's performance in the second quarter of 2015, followed by a current perspective on the industry. Steve will then provide a more detailed look at our financial and operating results. Finally Albert will add a few concluding comments and then we will open the call up to questions.

At times today we may refer to ourselves as Westlake Chemical. References to Westlake Partners refer to the master limited partnership Westlake Chemical Partners LP. References to OpCo refer to Westlake Chemical OpCo LP, whose assets consist of two natural gas liquid processing facilities located in Lake Charles, Louisiana, a natural gas liquids processing facility located in Calvert City, Kentucky, and an ethylene pipeline that runs from Mont Belvieu, Texas to the chemical facilities located in Longview, Texas.

Today Management is going to discuss certain topics that will contain forward-looking information that is based on Management's beliefs, as well as assumptions made by and information currently available to Management. These forward-looking statements suggest predictions or expectations and thus are subject to risks or uncertainties.

Actual results could differ materially based upon many factors including the cyclical nature of the chemical industry, availability, cost, and volatility of raw materials, energy, and utilities, governmental regulatory actions, and political unrest, global economic conditions, industry operating rates, the supply/demand balance for Westlake's products, competitive products and pricing pressures, access to capital markets, technological developments, and other risk factors discussed in our SEC filings. This morning Westlake issued a press release with details of our second-quarter 2015 financial and operating results.

This document is available in the press release section of our webpage at Westlake.com. A replay of today's call will be available beginning two hours after completion of this call until 11:59 PM Eastern Time on August 11, 2015.

The replay may be accessed by dialing the following numbers. Domestic callers should dial 1-855-859-2056. International callers may access the replay at 404-537-3406. The access code for both numbers is 82598901.

Please note that information provided -- please note that information reported on this call speaks only as of today, August 4, 2015, and therefore you are advised that time-sensitive information may no longer be accurate as of the time of any replay. I would finally advise you that this conference call is being broadcast live through an internet webcast system that can be accessed on our webpage at Westlake.com.

I'd like to turn the call over to Albert Chao. Albert?

Thank you, Dave.

Good morning ladies and gentlemen and thank you for joining us on our earnings call to discuss our second-quarter results. In this morning's press release we reported record quarterly net income of $205 million, or $1.54 per diluted share on sales of $1.2 billion.

We also reported record income from operations in our vinyls segment along with strong performance in our olefins segment. The second quarter saw lower global crude oil prices that resulted in lower feedstock costs for global ethylene producers which in turn lowered the sales prices for all of our major products as compared to 2014. In spite of the lower crude oil price environment, our segments delivered strong performance in the second quarter and benefited from improving demand for our polyethylene and PVC end products as well as the benefits of our integration investments to capture the full range of margins in the vinyls segment.

In the past few years we have invested approximately $2 billion to further expand our ethylene and chlorine chain integration. Through our ethylene unit expansions at both our Lake Charles and Calvert City facilities, the new chlor-alkali unit in Geismar, Louisiana, a PVC expansion in Calvert City, as well as through our acquisition of Vinnolit and North American Specialty Pipe which brought in our vinyls portfolio to include specialty PVC resin and pipe.

I would now like to turn our call over to Steve to provide more detail on the financial and operating results for the second quarter. Steve?

Thank you, Albert, and good morning, everyone.

I will start with discussing our consolidated financial results followed by a detailed review of our olefins and vinyls segment results. Let me begin with our consolidated results.

In this morning's press release Westlake reported record net income for the second quarter of 2015 of $205 million, or $1.54 per diluted share on net sales of $1.2 billion. This represents an increase of $36 million, or $0.28 per diluted share, compared to the second quarter of 2014 net income of $169 million, or $1.26 per diluted share on net sales of $999 million.

Net income for the second quarter 2015 included a net pretax gain of $16 million, or $0.13 per diluted share, pro weighted to a gain from the acquisition of a controlling interest in our Chinese PVC joint venture and an impairment loss related to an equity investment. The gain from the acquisition was non-taxable and lowered our effective tax rate for the second quarter of 2015 from approximately 34.3% to 31.9%.

Excluding this one-time net gain, our earnings would have been $1.41 per diluted share. Net sales for the second quarter of 2015 increased by $186 million over the same period in 2014, mainly due to sales contributed by Vinnolit, our specialty PVC resin business, which we acquired in July 2014, and higher sales volumes for most of our major products partially offset by lower sales prices for all of our major products.

Second-quarter 2015 income from operations was $295 million, an increase of $28 million over the second quarter of 2014. Operating income benefited from higher vinyls-integrated product margins as a result of lower feedstock cost, increased production rates at our Calvert City facility following the completion of the ethylene expansion project, higher production rates at our Geismar chlor-alkali plant, and the contribution from Vinnolit as compared to the second quarter of 2014.

This benefit was partially offset by lower integrated product margins in our olefins segment due to lower sales prices in the second quarter of 2015 compared to the prior-year period. Also as we noted in the first quarter earnings call, our second-quarter earnings reflect the pretax impact of approximately $23 million of lost sales and cost associated with maintenance turnarounds in both of our segments and by an ethylene shortage in Europe.

Of this $23 million, $9 million was in the olefins segment and $14 million was in our vinyls segment. Sales revenue in the second quarter of 2015 was $1.2 billion compared to sales of $1.1 billion in the first quarter of 2015, while second quarter 2015 income from operations of $295 million increased $66 million from the first quarter of 2015.

The increase was mainly due to lower feedstock and energy cost, higher vinyls operating rates, higher polyethylene sales volumes, and higher PVC selling prices. For the first six months of 2015, sales revenue was $2.3 billion, an increase of $263 million compared to the six months ended June 30, 2014, primarily due to sales contributed by Vinnolit, higher sales volumes for ethylene, PVC resin and caustic soda, partially offset by lower sales prices for all of our major products.

Income from operations was $525 million for the six months ended June 30, 2015, compared to $515 million for the prior-year period, an increase led by higher vinyls integrated product margins resulting from lower feedstock costs, increased production rates at our Calvert City facility following the completion of the ethylene expansion project, higher production rates at our Geismar chlor-alkali plant, and the contribution from Vinnolit. This is partially offset by lower olefins integrated products margins due to lower sales prices.

Sales prices in the first six months of 2015 were negatively impacted by the significant decline in crude oil prices. Our utilization of the FIFO method of accounting resulted in a favorable impact of $5 million pretax, or $0.02 per share in the second quarter compared to what earnings would have been reported if we were on the LIFO method. Please bear in mind that this calculation is only an estimate and has not been audited.

Let's move on to review the performance of our two segments starting with our olefins segment. The olefins segment reported income from operations of $221 million in the second quarter of 2015 on sales of $621 million, compared to operating income of $239 million and sales of $699 million in the second quarter of 2014. The lower results were due to lower sales prices, which decreased our olefins integrated product margins and from costs related to several polyethylene maintenance turnarounds completed during the second quarter of 2015 partially offset by higher polyethylene sales volumes and lower feedstock and energy costs.

Second-quarter operating income of $221 million increased by $30 million from $191 million reported in the first quarter of 2015, while sales of $621 million improved by $38 million over the same period. Sales and operating income were higher largely due to higher sales volumes for polyethylene, while operating income increased due to lower energy cost, partially offset by approximately $9 million in costs related to the polyethylene maintenance turnarounds completed in the quarter.

For the first six months of 2015 sales revenue of $1.2 billion for the olefins segment decreased by $218 million from the $1.4 billion in the first half of 2014, while operating income for the first six months of 2015 of $412 million decreased by $99 million in the same period. The lower results were driven by lower sales prices resulting in lower olefins integrated product margins, partially offset by higher ethylene and polyethylene sales volume and lower feedstock and energy costs for the first six months ended June 30, 2015, compared to the prior-year period.

Now moving on to the vinyls segment, the vinyls segment reported operating income of $88 million in the second quarter of 2015 on sales revenue of $564 million as compared to operating income of $38 million on sales of $300 million in the second quarter of 2014. The increase in vinyls sales revenue was primarily from sales contributed by Vinnolit and higher sales volumes for PVC resin and caustic soda, partially offset by lower sales prices for our major products. Operating results were higher due to higher vinyls-integrated product margins that were the result of lower feedstock cost and increased ethylene production rates at our Calvert City facility following the ethylene expansion project.

Additionally, income from operations benefited from higher caustic soda sales volumes, primarily due to higher production rates at our Geismar chlor-alkali plant and from Vinnolit's contribution as compared to the second quarter of 2014, partially offset by lower sales prices from our major products and the higher cost and reduced volumes related to maintenance turnaround and the ethylene shortage in Europe totaling approximately $14 million. A series of planned and unplanned ethylene outages in Europe has tightened ethylene availability, and we expect this ethylene shortage will have an impact of approximately $5 million in the third quarter.

Vinyls segment operating income of $88 million in the second quarter of 2015 increased by $41 million over the first quarter of 2015, while sales of $564 million increased by $44 million over the same period. The increase in sales revenue was the result of higher building products sales volumes and higher selling prices for PVC, while the increase in operating income was driven by higher operating rates and higher integrated vinyls margins resulting from higher PVC selling prices and lower feedstock cost.

For the first six months of 2015 sales revenue of $1.1 billion for the vinyls segment increased by $481 million from the first half of 2014, while the operating income of $135 million increased by $118 million in the same period. The higher sales were principally from sales contributed by Vinnolit and higher PVC and caustic soda sales volumes partially offset by lower sales prices for our major products. The change in operating results between the first half of 2015 and the first half of 2014 was primarily due to higher vinyls integrated product margins resulting from lower feedstock costs, increased production rates at our Calvert City facility following the ethylene expansion project, higher caustic soda sales, primarily due to higher production rates at our Geismar chlor-alkali plant, and Vinnolit's contribution.

Results for the first half of 2015 were partially offset by lost sales, lower production rates, and higher costs associated with maintenance turnarounds and lower sales prices for our major products. Results for the six months ended June 2014 were negatively impacted by lost sales, lower production rates, costs associated with the maintenance turnaround and ethylene expansion projects at our Calvert City facility, and significantly higher propane cost.

Next, let's turn our attention to the balance sheet and the statement of cash flow. Cash generated from operating activities in the first half of the year was $435 million, and we spend $204 million on capital expenditures. As of the end of the second quarter we had cash balances of approximately $1 billion and total debt was unchanged at $764 million. Our guidance for 2015 capital expenditures, which includes significant spending for our 2016 Petro 1 ethylene expansion, remains in the range of $400 million to $450 million.

Let me now give you an update related to our master limited partnership, Westlake Partners. Shortly after our first-quarter earnings call in May, the IRS released proposed regulations governing qualified income as it relates to our master limited partnership. These propose regulations, if finalized in their current form would have the effect of rescinding the private letter ruling we received from the IRS in 2013 leaving us with a 10-year transition period in which our income would be qualified.

We believe that the IRS's interpretation of the law when issuing a private letter ruling was and still is correct. As announced last week we filed comments with the IRS and the Department of Treasury on their proposed regulations outlining our view of the tax statute and that our activities clearly are within the plain reading of the statute. We will continue to discuss the proposed regulations with the IRS and Treasury and are looking forward to working with the IRS to develop guidelines for qualifying income that are consistent with the tax statute and that are in the best interest of all stakeholders.

With that, I'll turn the call back over to Albert to make some closing comments. Albert?

Thank you, Steve.

In the second quarter we delivered record quarterly results which were supported by strong performance in both of our segments. The global excess supply of crude oil has continued into the fourth consecutive quarter, putting downward pressure on crude oil prices and the selling prices of our major products. In spite of this, our business results have benefited from the investments that we have made since 2013 to expand our integration, add to our specialty PVC resin business and pipe businesses, lowered our cost position, and improved our earnings capacity.

We believe that underlying factors that are favorable to our businesses remain in place. North American natural gas liquids feedstock costs will remain globally competitive into the future, which allows us to maintain our position as a low-cost integrated producer of polyethylene and PVC.

Our focus on differentiated and specialty products, most in polyethylene and PVC, will continue to position us well as global economies continue to recover. Looking forward we remain focused on identifying opportunities that will strengthen our product integration, leverage our existing asset base, and add to our earnings potential. Our project team continues with expansion work of our Petro 1 ethylene unit at our Lake Charles facility, which is on schedule for completion in the first half of 2016.

Thank you very much for listening to our earnings call this morning. Now I will turn the call back over to Dave Hansen. Dave?

Thank you very much, Albert.

Ladies and Gentlemen, before we begin taking questions I would like to remind you that a replay of this teleconference will be available starting two hours after we conclude the call. We will provide that number again at the end of the call.

Operator, we're now prepared to take questions.

(Operator Instructions)

Arun Viswanathan from RBC Capital Markets.

Hey guys, thanks a lot for taking my question. My first question is on the polyethylene market. What are you guys seeing right now as far as demand?

You, obviously, had a pretty strong second quarter. However, the trade indices are talking about some downward momentum on pricing.

Is that something that you're seeing as well? And also what do you see on the supply side as far as outages in the second half of the year?

Yes, we had a good polyethylene and vinyl business for the second quarter. Seasonally the second and third quarters usually are the two strong quarters of the year for both polyethylene and PVC.

And we expect the third quarter also to continue with a seasonal pattern of good volume. There is a $0.05 a pound price increase that still is outstanding for polyethylene and it's being pushed into August or September depending on the producers. And we believe that depending on oil price movements if oil price stabilizes there's a potential for getting a price increase to push through.

Okay, thanks. And then I guess on the vinyls business, was this the case that you were able to take any share in the second quarter because of competitor outages or some outages with the Evangeline pipeline? And then if you could just help us understand what portion of the improvement year on year was from organic growth versus Vinnolit, that would be very helpful.

Certainly from the earnings and volume base for our vinyls segment, Vinnolit played a big part in the increase. But we are also seeing volume improvements in the domestic and export market for our US business.

However, as you know the PVC price did drop compared to last year. So the price moved down where the volume moved up.

As it relates to the year-on-year comparison you'll recall that we had not acquired Vinnolit at that -- at this point in time last year. And so the major contribution really though was driven by our integration investments that Albert made reference to earlier. Certainly Vinnolit was a nice contributor, but the biggest driver of course was the integration investments that Albert made earlier reference to.

Thanks. And just as a final follow up, can you help us understand your own view over the next 6 to 12 months on the ECU and where you expect caustic soda prices will track?

Yes. With the summer season the demand for chlorine increases not only for water treatment but also for PVC in construction.

So demand for chlorine is high and production of caustic also is high commensurate with the chorine production. As we go to the winter season this will slow down and put less pressure on the caustic.

Okay, thanks.

You're welcome.

Jim Sheehan from SunTrust.

Thank you. Following up on the caustic soda comments there, do you see any potential for upward pricing momentum in the fall due to industry outages? And related to that, does Westlake have any outages planned in the fourth quarter -- in the fall or the fourth quarter?

Westlake does not have any caustic planned turnarounds in the fourth quarter. If you look at HIS forecast, they are forecasting caustic prices to move up in the fourth quarter of this year.

Great. And on the ethylene supply/demand you mentioned tightness in Europe possibly extending a little further into the third quarter here. When do you guys expect that to loosen up a bit, or do you think it remains tight for the balance of the year?

We think that the European ethylene business is improving. I think most of the plants are coming back. I think that the impact on us is more of an inventory issue that will move over into the third quarter.

Great. And lastly, could you just comment on your pipeline dispute with Eastman? Where does that stand now and when do think that will be resolved?

Jim, we've taken that dispute, this is the directional flow, we have taken that dispute into the courts and it is unclear in terms of how long that will take to get resolved. So we will just have to keep you posted to see where that -- when that concludes.

Okay, thank you very much.

You are welcome.

Frank Mitsch from Wells Fargo.

Good morning, gentlemen and nice quarter. And obviously, gentlemen you leave the quarter with yet again a terrific balance sheet.

And I saw that you stepped up significantly the share buyback activity in the quarter. Can you talk about how you're thinking about use of cash for the balance of the year and into next year, share buyback versus possible M&A, and what the M&A landscape may look like for your particular set of businesses?

Yes, Frank, as I mentioned earlier we are continuing to work through the expansion that we have in Lake Charles and complete that in 2016 in the first half. And so part of the cash will be used obviously for that expansion plan.

Certainly we continue to look at deploying the cash on a regular basis. We assess opportunities in the market and at the same time we do have an authorized program by the Board to buy shares back.

And you saw that we did just exactly some of that in the prior quarter. So we will continue to assess opportunities and see how they fit into our overall business strategies.

What is your sense in terms of the valuation multiples in the chlor-alkali side of the business as well as in the olefin side of the business?

Well we certainly always assess that relative to where they are and where they will go and that is part of the analysis that we always undertake.

Okay. Looking at the chlor-alkali side, obviously, you talked about getting greater volumes out of the Geismar facility. Where were your operating rates in the second quarter, and how are they trending so far through July?

The operating rate was quite high, as I mentioned in our call, that our Geismar facility is running quite well. And we believe it will continue into third quarter as well.

North of 90% or south of 90%?

I think we are running at a higher than industry average rate.

Higher than industry average, Okay, so it could still be in the upper 80%s. All right. Thank you so much.

You are very welcome.

Hassan Ahmed from Alembic Global Advisors.

Good morning, Albert and Steve.

Good morning.

Nice bump up, obviously, on the vinyls side of things, both year on year and sequentially. Just wanted to get a sense of some of the raw materials sourcing you may be doing out in Europe.

You talked about how Vinnolit was a major contributing factor to the sequential uptick in earnings. Is there some form of advantage, raw materials sourcing you are doing out in Europe?

Nothing in particular. As you know, Vinnolit has been in business for decades and they have a very good management team and very good suppliers.

Just essentially regular market purchases?

Yes, sir.

Perfect. And on the polyethylene side, a bit of a broader question. Obviously, a fair bit of noise around the delta between Asian and US pricing being on the higher side relative to where it is normally. In your view is that sustainable near to medium term?

There is a relationship between the export price and domestic price and they reflect on each other. I think the Asian price will reflect mainly by the recent move for crude oil.

As we know we are early -- we're still early in the third quarter. So we don't know what crude oil will do. Today went it up by 1% or 2% this morning.

Super, thanks so much, Albert.

You're welcome.

Edlain Rodriguez from UBS.

Good morning guys.

Good morning.

Just one quick one on PVC. What are you seeing in prices and also relative to ethylene prices?

Can PVC prices stay up even if ethylene prices come down, or do they have to move together? Essentially is the PVC market strong enough to get pricing on its own?

That's a good question. There's some relationship between feedstock cost and prices.

And PVC as an industry export is about 30% of PVC to international markets. So the prices of international markets would have an impact on the export prices, and may have an impact directly on domestic prices afterwards.

Okay. That's all I have. Thank you.

Thank you.

David Begleiter from Deutsche Bank.

Thank you, good morning. Capital spending, should that be as Petro 1 completes the expansion next year, should capital spending trend up, be flat next year, or even be down post that expansion?

David, we haven't announced our 2016 capital spending program, but certainly the capital spending as you would guess will be more elevated in the first half of 2016. And we will give later guidance as we get toward the end of the year for the full year of 2016. But certainly, we have no other announced projects at this stage for the public at this stage, but we continue to evaluate those all the time.

Fair enough. And just back on the buyback question Albert and Steve, should the pace of buybacks in the second half be similar to the pace of buybacks in the first half?

So our program that we have authorized from the Board allows us to use Management judgment in that and we'll assess the markets at that time.

Thank you very much.

You're welcome.

Don Carson from Susquehanna Financial.

Just want to go back to your year over year volume growth in vinyls of just under 100%. Which of those comparisons do you start to lap in Q3? What kind of year over year -- how did the year-over-year comparisons get tougher?

The limited business would have a partial quarter in the third quarter last year. And so for volume basis the difference would be less.

And then how about on the caustic side? I know it took you time to ramp up Geismar last year, but was that fully ramped up by Q3?

Last year it did not operate as well as this year so far. Into the third quarter it should be -- our caustic business should do better than last year.

And then just if you can remind us, what is your ability to run propane at Petro 2?

We had before major expansion we had the ability to run 50% propane, but as we expanded our ethylene plant that ability has dropped.

And how far has that dropped? Has that been cut in half?

We have not discussed that publicly.

Okay. And then Calvert City --

(inaudible)

Okay. And then how about at Calvert City? I know you would lose ethylene capacity if you ran propane, but do you ever run propane through there from time to time, or is that just strictly ethane now to get the ethylene production you need?

It's ethane because of the volume we need.

Okay, thank you.

You're welcome.

[Alexi Yepermov].

Thank you, this is [Jake Inpeshard] sitting in for Alexi. Could you comment on the housing situation in the US and Europe and what sort of outlook you see for the second half and how does that translate down into vinyls?

Yes, in recent months we see an uptick in new home construction, so that is positive. On the other hand there is still a large part, about 30%, 40% of that is still multi-family which requires less materials than just PVC per unit, per housing unit built. So we like the trend, but it is not having a material impact on the demand for PVC.

And in Europe?

I think Europe is gradually returning, economy is improving, but very gradually. And we don't play a big part in the housing market in Europe.

Sure, thanks. And you mentioned that you haven't changed Vinnolit's sourcing strategy much. On the flip side have you been able to gain traction on leveraging their technology or products in the US or any other benefits along those lines?

Yes, we have. We have a very active exchange of information between the two companies' technology people and we are both benefiting from our own technologies.

Okay great, thank you.

You're welcome.

Brian Maguire from Goldman Sachs.

Good morning and thanks for taking my questions.

Good morning.

Obviously, very strong results in vinyls. Just wondering if you could provide an update on the synergies and how they are going at Vinnolit and how far along you are in achieving the expected cost synergies as well as any revenue synergies that you might have found in the meantime?

Brian, as Albert noted we have really good exchange of technologies going on and have with Vinnolit people. And at this stage we've been fully integrated with the Vinnolit business and feel very good about the acquisition and feel like it's been well integrated into our overall business and seeing some of the benefits accordingly.

Are you able to ship EDC from the US to Europe to source in Vinnolit? Is that an option for you guys either over the last couple of months or going forward? Do you expect any changes going forward on your sourcing strategy there?

We have studied that but so far we haven't shipped EDC to Europe.

Great, Just one last one if I could. A comment on recent trends in light of the drop in oil prices, are you seeing any early signs that customers might be holding off on some purchases either in the US or Europe?

Third quarter is quite strong and even into the second quarter is quite strong in volume. Into the third quarter we are still seeing a pretty strong demand for our products.

Great, thanks very much.

You're welcome.

(Operator Instructions)

Jeff Zekauskas from JPMorgan.

Hi, good morning.

Good morning.

Hi. You bought back many more shares in the second quarter than you did in the first, but I think your average share price or the average share price of Westlake was much higher in the second quarter than it was in the first. What led to your change of heart?

Jeff, it wasn't necessarily a change of heart. It was certainly an opportunity to continue to buy shares, and if you look at not only what activity we have acquired, we have taken in acquiring these shares in that quarter, but I also look back over the period of time when we have been authorized by the Board to buy shares.

And we still have a very attractive average share acquisition price relative to the current price today. The program the Board authorized continues in effect and we'll continue to assess opportunities to buy shares opportunistically in the marketplace.

What was your average acquisition price in the second quarter?

It was in the 70s.

It was in the 70s.

Yes. About 71.

71. And you have no timetable -- you have roughly 190 left on your authorization, is that right?

That's about right.

And you have no timetable for the completion of that?

No, there is no limit that the Board has given us to exercise that program. It is a discretionary program.

Are your acquisition prospects better than they were three months ago or worse? Or it is too hard to tell?

There continue to be a flow of ideas that we look at and we continue to assess those on a regular basis.

Are they large ideas or small ideas or hard to tell?

They run the range, Jeff, both large and small of course.

How large?

How big is a breadbox? No, Jeff, realistically they run the range of course.

Okay great, thank you so much.

You are welcome.

We have time for one more question, please.

Jim Sheehan from SunTrust.

Thanks. Could you comment on your building products volumes? I remember last quarter you said that these were impacted by weather a little bit.

Did you see any bounce back in the second quarter? And how has the dynamic changed if at all in early July here?

The building product volume has improved compared with the first quarter but not dramatically.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

At this time the Q&A session has now ended. Are there any closing remarks?

Yes. We would like to thank you very much for participating in today's call. We hope you'll join us again for our next conference call to discuss our third-quarter 2015 results. Have a great day.

Thank you for participating in today's Westlake Chemical Corporation's second-quarter earnings conference call. As a reminder this call will be available for replay beginning two hours after the call has ended and may be accessed until 11:59 PM Eastern Time on Tuesday August 11, 2015.

The replay can be accessed by calling the following numbers. Domestic callers should dial 1-855-859-2056.

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