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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon, my name is Andrew and I will be your conference operator today. At this time I would like to welcome everyone to the Workiva Inc. second quarter 2016 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks there will be a question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions). Thank you. Adam Rogers, Senior Manager of Investor Relations, you may begin your conference.

  • Adam Rogers - Senior Manager of IR

  • Thank you, and good afternoon everyone and welcome to the Workiva second quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. This afternoon we will begin with comments from Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Matt Rizai followed by Executive Vice President, Treasurer, and Chief Financial Officer, Stuart Miller and then we'll turn the call over to questions. Also on the line today are Marty Vanderploeg, President and Chief Operating Officer, and Mike Sellberg, Executive Vice President and Chief Product Officer.

  • A replay of this call will be available until August 10. Information to access the replay is listed in today's press release which is available on our website under the Investor Relations section. As a reminder today's conference call is also being broadcast live via webcast. Before we begin I would like to remind everyone that during today's call we will be making forward-looking statements regarding future events and financial performance including guidance for a third quarter and full fiscal year 2016.

  • These forward-looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties. Workiva cautions that these statements are not guarantees of future performance. All forward-looking statements made today reflect our current expectations only and we undertake no obligation to update any statement to reflect the events that occur after this call.

  • Please refer to the Company's Annual Report on Form 10-K and Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q for factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from any forward-looking statements. Also during the course of today's call we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of non-GAAP to GAAP measures and certain additional information are also included in today's earnings press release.

  • And with that we will begin by turning the call over to our Chairman and CEO, Matt Rizai.

  • Matt Rizai - Chairman, COO

  • Thank you, Adam, and thanks to everyone for joining us today to discuss our second quarter 2016 results. We delivered strong second quarter performance. Total revenue for the quarter was $43 million, an increase of 27% over Q2 of 2015, with subscription and support revenue up 25% and professional services revenue up 37% year-over-year. We outperformed our guidance for quarterly revenue, operating loss and loss per share.

  • As a result we're increasing our full year 2016 guidance which Stuart will discuss in more detail later in the call. We continue to sign new Wdesk customers as well as add seats within existing customers in our SEC and non-SEC markets including Sarbanes-Oxley, risk processes, management reporting at public and private companies and adjacent markets like enterprise risk management.

  • Here are some recent examples that show the breadth and the depth of Wdesk. A large financial holding company uses Wdesk to collect budget data from its ten business units which rolls up to a consolidated budget dashboard. A technology startup company, 3-D Glass Solutions, built its forecasting model in Wdesk. A global retailer has expanded its use of Wdesk for audit management and to review, track and comment on financial reconciliations.

  • A multinational private conglomerate uses Wdesk to create a monthly close analysis work book that feeds into an executive summary operations book and a treasury book. We also continue to see strong demand for Wdesk in the SOX market because it streamlines how teams document, implement and assess internal controls over financial reporting. Here are some of the recent customer examples for SOX.

  • NextEra Energy uses Wdesk to work in one secure version and give access to their auditors which allow their teams to focus on other value-added work and eliminate the need for overtime. Chrysler Group, which uses Wdesk for financial planning analysis and SEC reporting, recently began using Wdesk for SOX. Chrysler uses one source work book that directly links its 10-Ks, international briefing books and SOX processes.

  • Stillwater Mining's SOX team uses Wdesk to automate their manual certification processes, organize their documentation and integrate their risk control matrix and process narratives. We're encouraged about the growth opportunities for Wdesk in Enterprise Risk Management or ERM which executives use to identify systemic risks, determine assess risk magnitude and plan strategic responses.

  • Recently our customers include companies in the following industries. Insurance, real estate, credit cards, education, healthcare, business consulting and technology. We also see growing demand for Wdesk within private companies. For example, Wdesk recently helped National Vision cut administrative time by more than half which gave them an extra week to analyze and enhance quality of their financial statements and disclosures.

  • In addition one of the largest private companies in America recently began using Wdesk for audit management. They quickly saw the time savings and the ability to ensure data and process consistency with Wdesk linking and collaboration tools. We have also seen SOX success with private companies which often choose to comply with SOX guidelines even though they are not required to do so.

  • For example, a Midwestern energy company recently used Wdesk to build their internal controls documentation. We're also seeing early successes from state and local governments including airports, water district, state lotteries and universities. Wdesk use case for this group include budgeting and preparing a comprehensive annual financial report known as CAFR, which is similar to a public company 10-K.

  • The CAFR is used extensively by bond rating agencies, underwriters and bond holders to assess investment risk. Our SEC business continues to be a source of growth for Workiva. We continue to add new customers at both large and small companies as we believe that Wdesk is widely regarded as the best practice for SEC reporting. In early July we announced that one of our customers used Wdesk to submit the very first inline XBRL filing to the SEC.

  • This was less than three weeks after the SEC allowed the volunteer file structure financial statements format in the United States. Inlines XBRL eliminates duplicative SEC filing requirements because it allows a standardized machine readable format to be integrated within companies' HTML filings. Being on the forefront of innovation is important to our customers which accounted for more than 50% of XBRL facts filed with SEC in the first half of 2016.

  • We're proud that Gartner recently recognized Workiva for our vision and ability to execute in their 2016 management quadrants for financial corporate performance management solutions. Gartner placed Workiva in the first position for its completeness of vision in the leaders quadrant.

  • Press releases this quarter also announced Wdesk expansion across our customers' organizations. They included integrated DNA technologies that use Wdesk to link data and build internal controls across its global enterprise. New York Life that began using Wdesk for Own Risk and Solvency Assessment, in other words ORSA reporting, and now uses Wdesk to modernize additional business data processes. Upland Software that uses Wdesk to streamline their enterprise risk management processes. Hawaiian Airlines that use Wdesk across its companies to automate workflow for SEC, SOX and other business data processes.

  • In June, Fortune Magazine ranked Workiva as one of the best workplaces for Millennials. The recognition is based on Workiva employees' feedback about the levels of trust, pride and comradery they experience in the workplace. Finally, we're looking forward to our fifth annual user conference September 7 through the 9th in San Diego. We will offer more than 60 sessions on SOX and internal controls, SEC compliance, risk mitigation, disclosure management, XBRL training, unstructured data collection and other advanced ways to use Wdesk.

  • In summary, our second quarter was strong. Adoption of Wdesk continues to gain traction with new and existing customers and our sales pipeline continues to build. We're excited about the multiple growth opportunities in front of us and we remain focused on executing on our own initiatives.

  • With that let me turn it over to Stuart Miller.

  • Stuart Miller - EVP, Treasurer, CFO

  • Thank you. As Matt discussed we posted strong results in the second quarter and we have a growing pipeline of new business opportunities that should position us well for the second half of 2016. We are progressing on our path to positive operating cash flow by executing the plan we outlined in our IPO and by improving operating efficiency. Our Q2 operating margin reflects these improvements.

  • Today we reaffirm our expectation that for the full year 2016 Workiva will use less cash from operations than we did in 2015. We expect further improvement in 2017. Consistent with our expectations at the time of our IPO and based on our current trajectory we believe that in the second half of 2017, Workiva will reach sustainable operating cash flow at breakeven or better on a forward 12-month basis.

  • Turning to revenue. We generated total revenue in the second quarter of $43 million, an increase of 26.6% from the second quarter last year. Breaking out revenue by reporting line item; Subscription and Support revenue was $35 million, up 24.5% from Q2 of 2015. 54.7% of the increase came from deeper penetration of our existing customer base. The remaining 45.3% of the S&S revenue increase in Q2 came from new customers added in the last 12 months.

  • The average contract value on Subscription and Support from all customers continue to rise. Professional services revenue was $8 million, an increase of 36.7% from the second quarter of 2015. Higher customer count and services for non-SEC use cases accounted for the majority of the growth in services revenue. When comparing results from sequential quarters please recall that Q1 is our seasonal peak for professional services revenue due to higher demand for services associated with the preparation of 10-Ks and proxy statements.

  • Turning to our supplemental metrics, we finished the second quarter with 2,622 customers, a net increase of 232 customers from Q2 of 2015 and a net increase of 65 from Q1 of 2016. Our subscription support revenue retention rate, excluding add-ons, was 95.1% for the month of June 2016 compared with 96.1% in March 2016.

  • Once again, customers being required or ceasing to file SEC reports accounted for over half of the revenue attrition. With add-ons our subscription support revenue retention rate was 110.2% for the month of June 2016 compared with 112.1% in March 2016. Increased subscription revenue on non-SEC use cases from existing customers continues to be the primary driver of our add on revenue retention rate.

  • Moving down the income statement; I'll talk about our results before stock-based compensation. In other words, on a non-GAAP basis. Please refer to our press release for a reconciliation of our non-GAAP and GAAP results. Gross profit was $30.7 million in the second quarter, up 25.7% from the same quarter a year-ago. Representing a gross margin of 71.3% compared to a gross margin of 71.8% in the second quarter of 2015.

  • Now breaking out gross profit. Subscription and Support gross profit was $28.1 million equating to a gross margin of 80.2% on S&S revenue compared to $22.6 million or an 80.5% gross margin in the second quarter of 2015. Professional services gross profit in the second quarter was $2.6 million equating to a 32.3% gross margin compared to $1.8 million or a 30.3% gross margin in the same period last year. Higher utilization rates accounted for most of the improvement in gross margin from services.

  • Turning to operating expenses; research and development expense in the second quarter was $13.4 million, an increase of 13.6% from $11.8 million in the prior-year second quarter due to additional staff, as we continue to dedicate more resources to building the next-generation of Wdesk.

  • Our R&D expense as a percentage of revenue this quarter improved to 31.2%, which is 360 basis points better than in Q2 last year. So the marketing expense increased 21.9% over Q2 of 2015 to $19.4 million driven primarily by additional headcount in line with our expectations. Sales and marketing expense as a percentage of revenue this quarter improved 170 basis points to 45.1% versus Q2 last year through improved operating efficiency.

  • General and administrative expenses were $5.7 million in Q2, an increase of 21.7% compared with $4.6 million in the second quarter of 2015 driven by higher compensation and additional staff used to support the growth of our businesses. G&A expense as a percentage of revenue in the latest quarter improved 50 basis points to 13.2% due to improved operating efficiency. Operating loss was $7.8 million in the second quarter of 2016 compared to $8 million in the same period last year.

  • As a percentage of revenue Workiva's operating margin improved 530 basis points in the latest quarter versus the same quarter a year-ago. Net loss was $8 million for the second quarter of 2016 compared to the net loss of $8.4 million in the second quarter of 2015. We posted a net loss per share of $0.20 in the second quarter of 2016 compared to a net loss for share of $0.21 in the same quarter a year ago.

  • Turning to our balance sheet and our statement of cash flows at June 30, 2016; we had cash, cash equivalents in marketable securities of $50.9 million, a decrease of $5 million compared with the balance at March 31, 2016. In the second quarter of 2016 net cash used in operating activities was $4 million compared with a use of $2.6 million in the same quarter a year ago. At June 30, 2016 total deferred revenue increased $5.4 million from March 31, 2016.

  • Long-term deferred revenue increased $1.2 million during the quarter. Some of our customers who purchased multi-year contracts in the past elected to renew at the same extended contract length. Our short-term subscription and support deferred revenue increased $3.9 million during the quarter. Our short-term services deferred revenue increased $300,000 during the quarter. We are making steady progress on converting quarterly contracts to annual contracts.

  • Turning to our guidance on our income statement for 2016; our guidance on non-GAAP loss from operations and non-GAAP loss per share -- basic share excludes the impact of stock-based compensation. Please refer to our press release for a reconciliation of our non-GAAP and GAAP guidance. For the third quarter of 2016 we expect total revenue to range from $44.5 million to $45 million.

  • We expect non-GAAP net -- non-GAAP operating loss to range from $13.4 million to $13.9 million. GAAP operating loss is expected to be in the range of $17.2 million to $17.7 million. As a reminder, Q3 is the seasonal high point for marketing expenses at Workiva. We host our annual tech user conference in September. We recognize the majority of these expenses at this conference in Q3. We expect non-GAAP net loss per share to range from $0.34 to $0.35. GAAP loss per share is expected to be in the range of $0.43 to $0.44.

  • Our loss per share guidance assumes 40.8 million basic and diluted shares outstanding. We are raising our guidance for the full fiscal year of 2016 as follows. We expect total revenue to range from $180.5 million to $181.5 million. We expect non-GAAP operating loss to be in the range of $38.5 million to $39.5 million. GAAP operating loss is expected to range from $52.9 million to $53.9 million.

  • Non-GAAP net loss per share is expected to be in the range of $0.96 to $0.99. Finally, GAAP loss per share is expected to range from $1.31 to $1.34. Our loss per share guidance for the full year also assumes 40.8 million basic and diluted shares outstanding. In summary Workiva posted another strong quarter, demand remains robust for our solutions and we remain focused on executing our growth plan to capitalize on our multibillion dollar market opportunity.

  • We'll now take your questions. Operator, we are ready to begin the Q&A session.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). Your first question comes from the line of Michael Nemeroff with Credit Suisse. Your line is open.

  • Chris Rochester - Analyst

  • This is Chris Rochester on for Michael. Congrats on the good quarter. It's good to see that operating leverage coming through. Just wondering if you could maybe provide some color on where that came from? Are you seeing sales reps maybe maturing more quickly than anticipated? And then if so, can you provide any color on which segments you're seeing the best performance? Is it SEC, SOX, kind of all of the above?

  • Stuart Miller - EVP, Treasurer, CFO

  • Sure. So as indicated by some of the margin discussion, a lot of the operating leverage came from on the R&D side. We're, as you know, we have made significant investments and we're still growing that team, but a lot of the heavy lifting has been done on building out our platform. And then on sales and marketing we definitely are seeing some improvement on the maturation of the sales force.

  • Chris Rochester - Analyst

  • Okay. That's helpful. Also, kind of looking at bookings, were -- I know you were tracking previously, greater than 50% of that coming from non-SEC use cases. How are you tracking relative to that target?

  • Matt Rizai - Chairman, COO

  • We're still tracking as expected. We believe that our non-SEC bookings will be greater than SEC bookings by the time the year ends.

  • Chris Rochester - Analyst

  • Great. Thanks. That's all for me.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Tom Roderick with Stifel. Your line is open.

  • Matt Endsley - Analyst

  • Matt Endsley on for Tom. Thanks for taking my questions. So I guess first could you give us an update in terms of what the development timeline is still looking for on the next-gen product and if expectations, once that rolls out, to really see some moderation on the R&D spend moving forward?

  • Matt Rizai - Chairman, COO

  • Yes. I think, Marty, you can jump in, too. Let me kind of start with this. I mean as a technology company we're continuously looking at to see how our technology is adopting to the current situation from a development point of view. I think, as you can imagine, as a technology company that really never ends a lot of ways. So we really don't look at it as a significant thing that's going to be ending everything a lot of ways.

  • There's a continuous technical event. There's continuous maintaining what we have and making sure that we're continuously working toward that we use the best technologies possible. So it seems like the, from a technology development point of view, the technology is advancing so much in general there's always an opportunity to do things better and to make sure that our platform capabilities are doing much better than they would be.

  • So I think that's an ongoing development in general so -- and then the other thing is that it's not because the way that we deploy our software and come out with kind of a newer version, so to speak, several times a week it's not like a one time event that everything is going to change.

  • It's an ongoing development that allows the -- allows us to do a better job in developing the -- in using the new generation technology tools and it allows our customers to be able to have access to the latest and greatest from a technology point of view ongoing basis. Marty, do you want to add anything?

  • Marty Vanderploeg - President, COO

  • No. I think that summed it up. I mean we're already putting parts of our next-generation out to customers as we speak and it will be a transition that is very organic. We will just see incremental improvements in different parts of the platform.

  • Matt Endsley - Analyst

  • All right. Great. And then as you guys look for additional opportunities to push the platform into non-SEC use cases, you obviously highlighted several new customer wins for the quarter, but were there any I guess net new or significant growth opportunities that you maybe uncovered in the last couple months that either customers brought to you or through development that you guys are now looking at in really expanding your addressable market moving forward?

  • Matt Rizai - Chairman, COO

  • Yes. I mean we're always looking to see what's available, but we do have a pretty rigorous process that we take our -- any opportunities that come in the picture to make sure that through product marketing and to understand exactly how the new opportunities may fit and we have a number of those that we're continuously assessing. But from an execution point of view, obviously, we are continuing to focus on making sure that we do a good job for our SEC customers and that we're also gaining new customers on that side.

  • But on the non-SEC side we definitely have a lot of focus on the SOX area that we have talked about quite a bit and I think this is the year that we're gaining a lot of customers from that point of view. And when you look at all the risk -- regulated risk area that we gain a lot of footprint including enterprise risk management. And then we're also now at least have gone outside of assessing certain markets like SLED where we're looking at the municipalities as well as universities and we see that there is some opportunities for us to move in that direction.

  • So I think those are the areas that we think that we can execute well. While we do have several different areas that we're also continuing to look at for the future and focusing on currently to make sure that we're doing a good job for our current customers on the non-SEC side, on the SOX. And we are also, as we indicated, seeing a lot of traction from private companies.

  • So we're pretty excited about that opportunity. And so I think these are the private companies and SOX and enterprise risk management, regulated risk are the areas that we're focusing on right now and we think that SLED market is going to be a very good market as it grows. And then we have multiple different opportunities that we're looking next -- we can deploy next 18 months are so.

  • Matt Endsley - Analyst

  • Alright. Great. Thank you.

  • Stuart Miller - EVP, Treasurer, CFO

  • Thanks Matt.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Terry Tillman with Raymond James. Your line is open.

  • Meg Downey - Analyst

  • This is Meg Downey on for Terry. Thank you for taking the questions. I was wondering if you could give us an update on price increases and how that's been received in the market? And then from there any overall plans for pricing as we think about the next six to 12 months?

  • Matt Rizai - Chairman, COO

  • Yes. Before -- I'll turn that Stuart, but our philosophy is in general -- so we understand is that the -- it's how do we create a lot of value to our customers? That is really the thought process. We believe that as we create more value to our customers, as we come out with new capabilities, the pricing and the opportunities for additional revenue that will come from there. So -- but on the other hand we do have opportunities to be able to do some price adjustments as we go along.

  • So that's really the philosophy we have in general and we are seeing quite a bit of that type of response whenever we come out with new capabilities. Our customers are willing to pay for those additional capabilities that pay for that and in general then our overall deal size is getting larger, but, Stuart, you want to add to that?

  • Stuart Miller - EVP, Treasurer, CFO

  • Yes, so I mean the important context for this is remember that as a SaaS company we're able to -- and because of our capabilities -- able to put out quite a few new releases. We're still putting out sort of three to four new releases a week. Many of those are small, but some of them are large and for customers that joined us a few years ago we've added quite a lot of value to that relationship and so that's important context. The second part of this is that we are trying to, over time, homogenize, if you will, or equalize the price that is being paid by some of the earlier customers with more current pricing model. So all that's going well.

  • Meg Downey - Analyst

  • Okay. Great. Thank you. That was really helpful. And then my second question -- are you on plan with your goal to add an additional 25% to 30% to your sales force in 2016? And then how has the productivity been of the rest that you've added over the last year?

  • Matt Rizai - Chairman, COO

  • Yes. That's a good question. I think we're more now focusing on making sure that productivity and sales efficiency is there. We're not necessarily focusing on let's hire as many sales people as possible. So our focus has been really within the context of making sure that our sales organization is becoming as efficient as possible. And I think at the same time we're continuing to hire sales people as we look at new opportunities as we find the new ones. So it's -- but at the end of the day, I think the team for us is always to make sure that the sales people that we hire are becoming as productive as possible.

  • Meg Downey - Analyst

  • Okay. Great. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Steve Ashley with Robert W. Baird. Your line is open.

  • Jason Velkavrh - Analyst

  • This is Jason Velkavrh on for Steve. Thanks for taking my questions. First question I have is on the competitive front. RR Donnelly announced they will be breaking into three companies. I know it's really early. Just curious if that will have any effect on your reporting business, maybe more displacements or anything along that line?

  • Matt Rizai - Chairman, COO

  • Yes. I really -- we really focus on, in our market, to make sure that we provide as good a value as possible to our customers and we also do the same thing with our potential customers. And we continue to tell them that we have a great track record, we have a platform that's by definition by now is the best-in-class and we provide a great service and we have a great retention rate and we have a great customer satisfaction.

  • And that's what we really focus on more than what competitors may do and that. And specifically to some of these companies that you are talking about, we really don't know exactly what they're doing, what their strategy is. It really would be not a good idea for us to even waste our time, in our minds, to think about what a competitor like that is or will be doing. We really focus on what we're doing and we're focusing on our customers and potential customers.

  • Jason Velkavrh - Analyst

  • Great. That's helpful. And one thing I wanted to touch on so net new customer add, just a slight decel there from last quarter. And I think we have talked about this before. Is that primarily driven by larger, more complex deals, anything else you would call out there?

  • Stuart Miller - EVP, Treasurer, CFO

  • Yes, I would say that some of it -- we're reporting the net number and the gross number was pretty comparable. It's really -- it was a fair bit of turn due to M&A which relates to my earlier comments. As we all know, this has been a pretty heavy M&A market and that's accounted for the majority of our churn. So we're feeling pretty good about it on a gross basis.

  • Jason Velkavrh - Analyst

  • Okay. That's helpful. And then just one more for me. Any update on plans for international expansion? I know you have talked about the potential for distribution partners. Have you found the right fit there? Just any update you can provide on that would be great.

  • Matt Rizai - Chairman, COO

  • Yes. I think our philosophy and our thought process in terms of international expansion is pretty much what we have talked all along at least the last couple of quarters. Number one, is we do have to pay attention and we do, and we want to make sure that we take care of our customers since we have a lot of customers who are also international on a global basis. From that point of view we do a lot of, we service them.

  • And we also are always prudent and very careful to make sure that as we spend our resources where the business is and we have a lot of business to be done in the United States and in Canada. And we believe that also Europe, northern Europe, is a valuable place for us to expand and we're expanding accordingly.

  • And we think that next three to four years we will continue to focus and expand internationally and to make sure A; we keep our global customers happy, and, B; through some of the capabilities that we have and words get around and we are doing some marketing efforts and we're gaining new customers regardless of the global customers that we have now and we will continue to do so in Europe.

  • Jason Velkavrh - Analyst

  • Great. That's it for me. Thank you. Thank you.

  • Stuart Miller - EVP, Treasurer, CFO

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Your next question from the line of Jeff Houston with Northland. Your line is open.

  • Jeff Houston - Analyst

  • Thanks for taking my questions. Looking at SOX compliance, are the current customers that are using this product more smaller market cap type of public companies? And if so -- I think I recall you mentioning that before -- and if so, have you started selling to your largest SEC clients the SOX compliance products?

  • Matt Rizai - Chairman, COO

  • Well, first of all, I think in terms of a lot of our SOX customers by definition are our current customers that have used for other things. So I think we try to go after that market because it's easier for us to be able to get a lot of traction. So we're doing that and we're also continuing to get new customers and so that's helping us. In terms of sizes, it's really not whether it's a small one or a large one.

  • Yet I think the mid-market, I would say, that we see a lot of that and we're also seeing in the private side of it. So I think that's our, at least for now, what we see in terms of our focus to make sure that we are marching toward our current customers with a sales organization as well as we're also getting new customers for SOX reasons -- which, by the way, really is helping. We've gotten several SOX customers where because of that business, we end up getting their SEC business as well.

  • Jeff Houston - Analyst

  • Got it. And is it correct that the pricing for SOX kind of scales with the size of the organization? Unlike SEC filing that is more, it's bigger public companies will pay about the same as smaller public companies? Is that (multiple speakers) --?

  • Matt Rizai - Chairman, COO

  • Yes. Well it depends. It depends. Again, it goes by the number of seats and certainly that when you have a large organization, more people are involved in the SOX. But -- and if it's a medium size, a small company, it could be comparable to the SEC team and so forth. But typically yes, it will scale if it's a large organization.

  • Jeff Houston - Analyst

  • Great. So it seems as if most of the customers currently using SOX compliance more mid-sized and smaller public companies that it's a big opportunity for you to sell it to your larger companies -- larger market cap companies?

  • Matt Rizai - Chairman, COO

  • Correct.

  • Jeff Houston - Analyst

  • Is that a fair assessment?

  • Matt Rizai - Chairman, COO

  • Yes.

  • Jeff Houston - Analyst

  • Okay. Alright. Thank you.

  • Stuart Miller - EVP, Treasurer, CFO

  • Thanks Jeff.

  • Matt Rizai - Chairman, COO

  • Okay. Well, I think that we're done and in closing I want to thank you for joining us today and, operator, you may now end the call.

  • Operator

  • This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.