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  • Operator

  • Good day. My name is Chantel, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the WEX Q3 2022 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. (Operator Instructions)

  • Steve Elder, you may begin your conference.

  • Steven Alan Elder - SVP of Global IR

  • Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. With me today is Melissa Smith, our Chair and CEO; and our CFO, Jagtar Narula. The press release we issued earlier this morning and slide deck to walk through our prepared remarks have been posted to the Investor Relations section of our website at wexinc.com. A copy of the release and the slide deck have also been included in an 8-K we submitted to the SEC earlier this morning.

  • As a reminder, we will be discussing non-GAAP metrics, specifically adjusted net income attributable to shareholders, which we refer to as adjusted net income, or ANI, adjusted operating income and related margins as well as adjusted free cash flow during our call. Please see Exhibit 1 of the press release for an explanation and reconciliation of adjusted net income attributable to shareholders to GAAP net loss attributable to shareholders, an explanation and reconciliation of adjusted operating income to GAAP operating income, and a reconciliation of adjusted free cash flow to GAAP operating cash flow. The company provides revenue guidance on a GAAP basis and earnings guidance on a non-GAAP basis due to the uncertainty and indeterminate amount of certain elements that are included in reported GAAP earnings. I would also like to remind you that we will discuss forward-looking statements under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those forward-looking statements as a result of various factors, including those discussed in our press release and the risk factors identified in our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2021, filed with the SEC on March 1, 2022 and subsequent SEC filings. While we may update forward-looking statements in the future, we disclaim any obligations to do so. You should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, all of which speak only as of today.

  • With that, I'll turn the call over to Melissa.

  • Melissa D. Smith - Chairman of the Board, President & CEO

  • Thanks, Steve. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I will open up the call with a word that most embodies our company, resiliency. This past year has witnessed significant economic and geopolitical events. From war in Ukraine, to inflation and rising interest rates at home, through it all, WEX has continued to grow its business and perform well for our customers, our employees and our shareholders. I will focus my comments this morning on 3 areas. Q3 financial results, highlights from the quarter across each of our segments and updates on several initiatives.

  • Let me start with Q3 financial results, which we released earlier this morning. I'm pleased to report that WEX had record quarterly revenue that exceeded our expectations. Revenue in the quarter was $616 million, a year-over-year increase of 28%. This strong Q3 growth, an increase of $133 million year-over-year was primarily driven by continued volume growth across the business, the effect of higher fuel prices, and normalization of late phase. The majority of revenue growth was due to volume and fee growth with the benefit of higher fuel prices represented approximately $56 million of the increase. On an organic basis, which excludes the impact of fuel prices, foreign exchange rates and an accounting presentation change, revenue grew 22% compared to the prior year's period. This performance reflects the power of our growth engine and the reoccurring nature of our business.

  • Total volume processed across the organization in the third quarter grew 41% year-over-year to $57.5 billion, driven by strong performance in each of our segments. Record quarterly revenue paired with the scalability of our business model resulted in adjusted net income per diluted share of $3.51, an increase of 43% compared to the same quarter last year. I'm really pleased with our results this quarter. Let me add some color to this success by touching on a few highlights where we continue to gain momentum in the markets we serve.

  • In our Health and Employee Benefits segment, we continue to see strong account growth, including signing the American arm of a leading global consumer electronics company. I'm also pleased with our investment over the past few years to be able to serve as the custodian of our HSA accounts for an offering that we did not provide in 2020. We are now the sixth largest HSA custodian according to Devenir. Our customers continue to choose our health offering for our customer-focused innovation, the rich data insights and the service we provide our customers' employees along with the breadth of our health ecosystem. Our capabilities span HSAs, FSAs, COBRA, benefit administration, data exchange and billing, all delivered with a strong focus on security, fraud control and compliance.

  • In the Global Fleet segment, we continue to build on our recent momentum. This past quarter, we won new merchant acceptance at Walmart and Sam's Club as well as established new partnerships with McPherson and AEG. We're also pleased to have extended our contracts with NFI, a leading third-party logistics firm and Bimbo Bakeries, one of the largest commercial bakeries in the U.S. We continue to implement and onboard new customers to our electric vehicle and mixed fleet solutions, both in the United States and Europe. Customers seek out WEX in our Fleet segment for the unique benefits and controls of the WEX proprietary payments network in our specialized expertise applied to the rich data we capture.

  • Turning to the Travel and Corporate Solutions segment. We saw strong volume performance in our Corporate Payment portfolio as well as post-pandemic rebounds in the busy Q3 summer travel season. That volume growth is translated into strong revenue growth of 25% and even greater scale benefits realized in our margins for this segment. Over the past year, we have built a direct sales team, which is selling to mid-market corporate payment customers. It's still in the early stages, but we are pleased with the results to date. We're also pleased to announce the First National Bank of Omaha is our next financial institution partner white labeling our Corporate Payment solutions. FNB will join a portfolio of other top commercial card issuers that leverage our payment solutions in the corporate payments market. Now let me turn to new updates on topics that affect our enterprise more broadly.

  • Our purpose at WEX is to simplify the business of running a business. Each of our solutions where they're helping with accounts payable, employee health care or managing vehicles in the field, simplify the running of the business we serve with solutions for any sized business that are customized to their industry. We're focused on deepening our wallet share of our current customer set by enabling them to use our full suite of products. We're seeing encouraging results from our over-the-road truck customers. OTR customers have been our initial focus because of the common customer characteristics of trucking fleet and the lack of payment digitization in this sector. We focused on selling our corporate payment solutions to these customers, allowing them to achieve the benefits of digital payments. Today, we have hundreds of OTR customers using corporate payments products, which contributed $7 million of revenue for our quarterly results (inaudible) hundreds of thousands of customers. We see our ability to enable them to easily gain access to our full suite of products is a key enabler of future growth.

  • Let me switch gears to next touch on customer-focused innovation. I want to update you on Flume, which is a new venture we've launched over the past 12 months with the mission to help our small business customers pay and get paid. The primary insight for us was that our smallest customers are demanding more consumer-like user experiences, we have an opportunity to meet them where they want to be met. Our approach is not just an easy UI, but powering it with a digital wallet technology and being able to participate in the funds flow. We recently promoted Flume from beta testing to a full launch and are focusing on bringing this solution to WEX's more than 450,000 existing small business customers. One of our Flume customers is a general contractor, specializing in the preservation of landmark buildings in local communities. This customer has used WEX fleet products for years to power their small fleet of vehicles. With the launch of Flume, they were delighted to find a new avenue to expand their relationship with WEX. Before Flume, keeping track of payments, documents and invoices for their more than 20 subcontractors with an entirely manual process powered by color-coated binders and filing cabinets, in particular, relying on checks for payments was a constant source of friction with subcontractors. They were drawn to Flume for speed and transparency. Their subcontractors can now receive payment immediately with full visibility into the process, cutting out the need to chase their money. Additionally, for a business moving from paper to digital, Flume is accessible and easy to use. Flume is a chassis on which we can provide incremental value to our small business customers. As we look to the future, this product and its modern architecture will help us unlock new revenue opportunities. Now let me take a moment to update you on our capital allocation priorities and further thoughts on resiliency. WEX generates a significant amount of adjusted free cash flow. Our move to providing an HSA custodial offering created a buffer against interest rate movements. During times of increasing inflation, our fleet, travel and corporate payments and health care business see an increase in purchase volume due to rising prices, which also benefits WEX. These items add to the resiliency of our model. At the same time, we're focused on continuing to squeeze out costs to create an even more profitable and nimble organization with an eye on the use of technology to further automate the business. We expect to deliver $100 million in run rate operating improvements by the end of 2024 and to reinvest roughly half of those savings and further growth and optimization opportunities across the business, which supports the achievement of our long-term growth targets.

  • (inaudible) our ability to generate strong cash flows, combined with the flexibility and diversity of our business model, gives us confidence in our capacity to invest in the business and return capital to shareholders. As a reminder, our capital allocation priorities, which we outlined on our Investor Day are to invest internally for organic growth and scale, execute strategic M&A that expands our customer reach and capabilities with a focus on EV and energy innovation, Health and Corporate Payment and return capital to shareholders when conditions are appropriate, all while maintaining a healthy and flexible balance sheet. Earlier today, we announced an amended share repurchase program, under which up to $650 million worth of WEX's common stock may be repurchased. This amended authorization reflects our Board and management team's confidence in WEX's ability to generate strong earnings and free cash flow. To date this year, WEX has purchased approximately $225 million of common stock, including approximately $75 million under the now amended plan in Q4. Jagtar will share more about our fourth quarter, our resilient cash flow model (inaudible) 2023 insights. But overall, I remain incredibly excited about our path forward. We're leveraging our powerful growth engine to win new customers, expand our relationships with existing customers and diversify our offerings with compelling new solutions that extend our addressable market. Jagtar?

  • Jagtar Narula - CFO

  • Thank you, Melissa, and good morning, everyone. As you just heard from Melissa, we delivered a solid third quarter in which we achieved strong top line growth while continuing to make good progress on our strategic objectives. As with prior quarters, this quarter showed the strength of our global commerce platform, the competitiveness of our offerings and the power of our business model. Now let's start with the quarter results on Slide 6. For the third quarter, total revenue exceeded the high end of our guidance by $26 million due to a combination of record high travel and corporate payments purchase volume, fuel price impacts and the normalization of late fees.

  • Total revenue came in at $616.1 million, a 28% increase over Q3 2021 with more than 80% of revenue for the quarter (inaudible). As a reminder, we define recurring revenue as payment processing and account servicing revenue, revenue from our factoring business, transaction processing fees and other smaller items. In total, adjusted operating income margin for the company was 39.1%, which is up from 37% last year, largely driven by the Travel and Corporate Solutions segment. From an earnings perspective, on a GAAP basis, we had a net loss attributable to shareholders of $44.1 million in Q3. I would like to note that our GAAP earnings included a $136 million noncash charge due to a goodwill impairment predominantly related to our European fleet business. Non-GAAP adjusted net income was $157.8 million or $3.51 per diluted share. This represents a 43% increase over the prior year.

  • Now let's move on to segment results, starting with Fleet on Slide 7. Fleet revenue for the quarter was $378.1 million, a 32% increase over prior year, powered by strong volumes from new customer wins and renewals, higher fuel prices and increase in late fees and a continued recovery in the existing customer base. Payment processing transactions were up 8% year-over-year, which is in line with our historical growth rate. As you've seen in our metrics, the net late fee rate normalized following the rapid increase in fuel prices. Overall, finance fee revenue was up 43% due to increases in volume, fuel prices and an increase in the number of late fee instances. The domestic fuel price in Q3 2022 was $4.54 versus $3.23 in Q3 2021. We estimate the year-over-year impact of higher fuel prices, increased fleet revenue by approximately $56 million, including a benefit of approximately $8 million for European fuel price spreads. The net interchange rate in the Fleet segment was 1.10%, which is up slightly from the prior year, even with higher fuel prices. We continue to see a transaction mix towards slightly smaller, but more frequent transactions as fleet owners cope with higher fuel prices, especially in the over-the-road space. This transaction shift has a slight benefit to our net interchange rate.

  • The segment adjusted operating income margin for the quarter was 46.2%, down from 50.6% in 2021. Let me briefly address increased credit losses we saw in Q3 that were the primary cause of the decline in margin. Fleet credit losses were above the high end of our range at 30.9 basis points of spend volume, including approximately 11 basis points of fraud losses. Let me start with credit losses. While we have a healthy portfolio overall, in the over-the-road trucking business, we are seeing slower payments from newer small customers likely due to declining spot shipping rates after large increases during the pandemic. As a result, we increased our reserves for these customers, including a qualitative reserve based on our economic outlook. This was the primary reason for higher credit losses in Q3 versus the prior quarter. We are very focused on actively managing the portfolio, including hiring additional collections personnel, adjusting our credit models and reducing credit terms where warranted.

  • Next, on to fraud losses. While we have seen our application fraud rates improved sequentially, transaction fraud rates remain elevated. We are not satisfied with this outcome, and we will continue to aggressively attack this problem until it is resolved. Our point of compromised model has determined that the transactional fraud is concentrated in our over-the-road business in a specific set of geographies with a limited number of merchants. Our actions include continuing to enhance our monitoring tools and account policies and updating our product offering with additional fraud controls, while working closely with our merchant partners. Turning now to Travel and Corporate Solutions. Total segment revenue for the quarter increased 25% to $114 million. Purchase volume issued by WEX was $20.7 billion, which is an increase of 61% versus last year. The net interchange rate in the segment was down 3 basis points sequentially, predominantly due to travel customers contributing a larger percentage of total purchase volume.

  • Breaking the segment down further. Travel-related customer volume represented approximately 74% of the total spend and grew 70% compared to last year. Revenue from travel-related customers was up 107% versus Q3 2021. This reflects continued strength in consumer travel demand. We are very pleased with these results. Corporate Payments customer volume grew 41% versus last year, and revenue was down 14% as reported, but it is up 9% after adjusting for an accounting presentation change. This growth was led by continued strength in the partner channel. The segment delivered an adjusted operating income margin of 52.9%, up from 34.1% in Q3 last year. There has been significant improvement in these margins as travel-related volume accelerated. Our business model here is very strong and revenue drop for this segment is high given our relatively fixed cost base. Finally, let's take a look at the Health segment. We continue to drive strong growth, resulting in Q3 revenue of $124.1 million. This represents an 18% increase over the prior year. SaaS account growth was 8% in Q3 versus the prior year. Adjusting for approximately 1 million temporary COBRA accounts last year, account growth was 13% in Q3.

  • Health segment purchase volume increased 15%, leading to a 16% increase in payment processing revenue. We also realized approximately $16 million in revenue from the HSA deposits that were invested by WEX Bank starting late last year and held at third-party banks. The Health segment adjusted operating income margin was 24.4% compared to 22.6% in 2021. The revenue from the invested HSA deposits is the primary driver of the increase in margin. Shifting gears now. I will provide an update on the balance sheet and our liquidity position. We remain in a healthy financial position and ended the quarter with $759 million in cash. We have $811 million of available borrowing capacity and corporate cash of $129 million as defined under the company's credit agreement at quarter end. As you'd expect, we saw a sizable $615 million decrease in our accounts receivable versus last quarter as fuel prices moderated.

  • At the end of the quarter, the total outstanding balance on our revolving line of credit, term loans and convertible notes was $2.7 billion. The leverage ratio as defined in the credit agreement stands at 2.7x, which is nearing the bottom end of our long-term target of 2.5 to 3.5x and down from the end of 2021 due primarily to the strong earnings. Next, I would like to turn to cash flow. WEX generates a significant amount of cash. We have included the graph on Slide 8 with a summary of adjusted free cash flow, which is how we view the cash generation performance of the company. Using our definition, adjusted free cash flow is $407 million through Q3. As Melissa discussed, our primary use of free cash flow this year has been to repurchase shares. We will continue to manage capital allocation between organic investment, M&A and returning capital to shareholders. Finally, let's move to revenue and earnings guidance in the fourth quarter and full year on Slide 9. The third quarter was a very good quarter for us, and I'm pleased to share that we are again increasing our guidance for 2022. Starting with the fourth quarter, we expect to report revenue in the range of $570 million to $580 million. We expect ANI EPS to be between $3.15 and $3.25 per diluted share.

  • For the full year, we expect to report revenue in the range of $2.30 billion to $2.31 billion. We expect ANI EPS to be between $13.24 and $13.34 per diluted share. For the full year, these updated ranges represent an increase of $42 million in revenue and $0.12 of EPS compared to the midpoint of our previous guidance. You can find additional assumptions for guidance on Slide 10. As I complete my prepared, I would like to emphasize how pleased we were with our Q3 results and to take a moment to reflect on our 2023 expectations. At the top of everyone's mind is the macro economy. Let me start with fuel prices, which have been volatile, and we may continue to see movement heading into next year. As of last week, the NYMEX futures curve is showing an average fuel price of $3.87 for next year. We will obviously update our fuel price assumptions when we give formal guidance in February. Next, I will turn to interest rates, which have increased significantly over the past year. We think the impact of higher interest rates on WEX is more balanced than is generally understood. Obviously, we have some floating rate debt today and $750 million of interest rate hedges that will expire between Q4 and Q1 next year, increasing the effective amount of floating debt that we have unless we add to our hedges.

  • We also have an income stream from $1.4 billion of HSA deposits that are invested, another $1 billion of HSA assets held at third-party banks, including $500 million monetized at floating rates. Interest rates have also risen to the point where we will see some benefit from interest rate escalator clauses in our fuel merchant interchange rates. In the low rate environment that we've been in for the last few years, we have not talked much about this lever, but we have the contractual ability to raise interchange rates as interest rates go higher once we hit a negotiated floor level in rates. Given all of this, over the long term, we see the impacts of interest rate changes as more balanced. Finally, we have great confidence in our ability to win new customers, expand with existing customers and bring new products to market, leading to long-term growth targets of the company.

  • With that, operator, please open the line for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Ramsey El-Assal with Barclays.

  • Ramsey Clark El-Assal - Research Analyst

  • Nice to see super strong numbers this quarter. Could you give us any read that you have on whether you're seeing sort of macro stress in the portfolio? It sounded like the credit deterioration fleet was a little more due to changes in shipping spot rates. Are you seeing any broader macro impacts? And I guess, how the same-store sales look in that context?

  • Jagtar Narula - CFO

  • Thanks for the words on the quarter. This is Jagtar. Let me address the -- what we're seeing on the macro side. Obviously, we talked about credit and fraud losses being up this quarter. I'll break that down into 2 parts on the credit loss side that was 20 points of the (inaudible) that I talked about. What we're seeing there really came down to a judgmental reserve that we took what we saw was limited to our over-the-road part of our business, where we're seeing spot rates declining as a result that putting some pressure on sort of smaller fee customers (inaudible) operators. We haven't seen specifically an increase in losses, but we did see some delayed payments as I talked about. And as a result, we took a judgmental reserve on that just accounting for the higher rates of the liquid payments. So we're seeing overall things pretty balanced. The overall quality of the fleet portfolio (inaudible) portfolio is still good. So we feel generally good about things. But we saw some parts in certain areas that we addressed.

  • Melissa D. Smith - Chairman of the Board, President & CEO

  • And just to expand on that, you asked about same-store sales. It's Melissa. On the North American fleet business in the quarter, we saw up 5% in same-store sales, so a real strength. The over-the-road business was flat and same-store sales. So what we're seeing within the portfolio, as Jagtar talked about the smaller over-the-road customers that are losing some share because of what's happening with spot rates so far for us, that volume has been picked up with some of the larger guys. And you can see that continuing through in what we're seeing for results in October as well. So if you look across the portfolio of WEX, overall, we've seen really strong trends, which factored through to the volumes that you saw us post in Q3.

  • Ramsey Clark El-Assal - Research Analyst

  • Great. Let me sneak one last one in here. In the slide deck, I think you talked about expanding product set usage in the OTR segment and a $7 million contribution. I think that's cross-sell. If that's the case, can you give us more color on what is working there, where you're seeing success? And should we expect that number to grow as we move forward?

  • Melissa D. Smith - Chairman of the Board, President & CEO

  • Yes. Yes, we've done actually a lot over the last quarter. So we talked about the $7 million of revenue that we had specifically of increasing wallet share between the over-the-road customers and our Corporate Payment products. We have, over the last quarter, segmented the portfolios. We've gone across and built a qualified sales lead list. And so if you think about the portfolio, the smaller customers, we intend to really go after more digitally. The larger customers is where we've created this qualified lead list that we are working our way through. We feel really bullish about the ability to extend the wallet share that we have with our customers. And the way that we think about that is in Investor Day, we had framed in our long-term growth framework, 4% to 5% growth that should come from existing customers, and this is one of the mechanisms we intend to hit that.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Nik Cremo with Credit Suisse.

  • Nikolai Chrin Cremo - Research Analyst

  • First, I just wanted to get more color on the $100 million in run rate efficiency improvements by the end of 2024 and how much of those benefits could WEX realize next year in 2023? And also related to operating expenses in '23, I know that there were some more one-time investments in the back half of this year, stated on the last call. And I was just curious if you could ballpark the size of those investments?

  • Melissa D. Smith - Chairman of the Board, President & CEO

  • Yes. Why don't I start, and Jagtar probably will fill in a little bit here. But when we were looking -- last quarter, we started talking about the fact that we were making investments. What we've been focused on is where we can use technology to create automations that increases the customer experience, I think that is the twofer. You have the ability to actually have a better customer experience at a lower cost and more scalability. We first started down this past, we were really thinking about how to derisk growth because of just what we're seeing were labor shortages in the marketplace. So that was really our primary focus. But as we've got into this, we think it just builds into the resiliency of the model. And a lot of this work has a pretty quick payback periods. So again, what we're looking at is that end-to-end experience. You've heard us talk a lot about how we've transformed our technology stack and moved into the cloud, how we've increased the digital marketing capability that we have. And so this is just taking that thread and pulling it all the way through that customer experience.

  • Jagtar Narula - CFO

  • I'll jump in and just answer a couple of questions on how we expect it to ramp and what we're seeing from the investment side this quarter. So on the ramping, as we said in the prepared remarks, we expect $100 million of run rate savings by the end of 2024. We're still working through our 2023 budget. So I'm not going to kind of get into a guidance discussion, but we do expect that to kind of ramp through '23. So we'll exit '23 with half to 2/3 of that from a run rate basis. And then on the investments that we're seeing, so we talked, I think, last call about $5 million to $10 million a quarter that we expect to see in the back half of the year from the investments we were making. And you can see that in the sequential results. If you look at Q2 versus Q3, you can see the $5 million to $10 million was roughly $6 million (inaudible) in Q3 results.

  • Nikolai Chrin Cremo - Research Analyst

  • Got it. If I could just sneak in a quick follow-up on the corporate payments yield. I know it was expected to taper down in the back half of this year related to a large customer. It looks like it came in like low to mid-70s, like 73. Like, how should we think about that yield into Q4 in 2023 if that's like a good run rate to use or if it should come down a little more?

  • Melissa D. Smith - Chairman of the Board, President & CEO

  • I think it's really -- sorry. Let me start. I think it's really important when you actually look at that segment to parse it into 2 pieces. So I would think about -- and we've actually been disclosing for probably 4 quarters now, the split between the 2. So you can see with our Travel business, there's been a lot of stability in the rate in the course of this year, we said that going into the year, and that's what we've experienced. And then with the Corporate Payments business, it has been really about mix shift to the extent that we're seeing more of a mix into our embedded payments products. That mix is that rate down. We said we expected that to happen during the course of this year and it has. And so there's a lot of mix at play that you can see from a profitability perspective that we've seen significant drop-through of revenue, which has increased our margin profile. So while some of the take rates and some of the products may be lower, there are less costs associated with those as well, and that all factors into how we think about it from a pricing perspective. So going forward, Jagtar said, we're still working through the budget and some of this will depend on mix of what we expect to see next year. But we've seen a lot of stability in the overall Travel rates. And again, when it gets to the Corporate Payments business, it really depends on mix. We have had great success with our embedded payment products in the marketplace, which again has that lower take rate. So we'd expect to see that continue to factor into that rate declining a little bit going into '23.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Mihir Bhatia with Bank of America.

  • Mihir Bhatia - VP in Equity Research & Research Analyst

  • I wanted to start with travel volumes, nicely this quarter, a little better than we expected. But just can you talk about where the improvement came from quarter-over-quarter in 3Q? And any geographies worth calling out? And then just staying with travel into 4Q, is there more recovery tailwind to come? Just thinking between holidays in the U.S., some in Australia that can maybe contribute some outsized growth again in 4Q there?

  • Melissa D. Smith - Chairman of the Board, President & CEO

  • Yes. With travel what we've been doing as a company back to 2019 to pre-pandemic and then pro forma in as if we (inaudible). In Q3, it was about 107% of Q3 volume in 2019. The thing I would say that stands out, and it was true last quarter but even more so this quarter, is that the definitely price increases that are coming through in that. So when we talk about some of the resilience that we have against inflation, this is a great example of that. Even sequentially from Q2 to Q3, the average ticket that we saw went up 8%. So there's -- the volume is still below the 2019 levels, but spend volume is above and that has a lot to do with pricing increases or mix change that's happened within the portfolio, but it's a higher average ticket price. From a geo perspective, I'd say similar trends to what we saw in the last quarter, with great growth in Europe, still -- we're still down in Asia, which is a smaller part of the portfolio.

  • Mihir Bhatia - VP in Equity Research & Research Analyst

  • Got it. And then maybe just on Flume. I appreciate some of the anecdotal or a little bit of detail that you provided in the prepared remarks. But of the 450,000 customers that you're targeting, what's the realistic target for how many you can sign up, let's say, the next year or so? Are there any mile markers you can share for us, where -- which you'll be using to judge if Flume is performing in line with expectations and the growth is coming through?

  • Melissa D. Smith - Chairman of the Board, President & CEO

  • Yes. It's an interesting question. We think of our existing small customer base that 450,000 customers is an opportunity for us to increase market share, and we've had some evidence of that with the products that we've rolled out and specifically with Flume so far. I think that we're still early. We went from beta launch to this quarter. We had told you last quarter was that we would go into full launch in the third quarter, which we did, and that we were going to learn from this full launch of what that looks like from an actual take rate across the portfolio. So I think you need to give us a little bit more time to get more experience behind us, but we feel really bullish around a bunch of things here. First of all, it's just the ability to bring products into the marketplace. And I talked earlier about all the work we've done on the technology side over many years. This is -- you can see the benefit of that as we're moving products into the market. It's part of why we added in a whole digital team at the beginning of the year, is that ability to actually take advantage of the technology. So the ability to move the product, the ability to rapidly introduce new features into the products, the ability to integrate through APIs across our portfolio. So the share technologies just in a totally different place. And so I think we're going to learn a lot on not just how we sell this into the marketplace, but how we use -- I talk about using this as the chassis for us in small business because there are a lot of pieces that we've developed that we will deploy in other parts of the company.

  • Mihir Bhatia - VP in Equity Research & Research Analyst

  • Got it. And if I could just squeeze one last one in there. Just on the impairment charge. What happened this quarter? Did something change in the quarter that made you take it this quarter? Just trying to understand like it's a fairly large amount.

  • Jagtar Narula - CFO

  • Yes, I'll address that one. So the impairment charge was largely macro related, right? So we're seeing rising interest rates which impact the discount rate we used in our impairment analysis. Market valuations have changed, which also impact the (inaudible) impairment analysis. And then the economic environment in Europe has impacted kind of the cash flow of the business in the near term. So we factor that all together. It's largely macro related, and we determined that the impairment charge is warranted.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Bob Napoli with William Blair.

  • Robert Paul Napoli - Partner and Co-Group Head of Financial Services & Technology

  • Having watched WEX through a number of macroeconomic cycles, your payment processing transactions have been a pretty good leading indicator. We're getting a lot of mixed moves out of the trucking space, but your transactions held up pretty well this quarter. What are your thoughts as you look in -- Melissa, as you look into next year on the macro? And are you seeing -- I mean, how are those transactions holding up so far in the fourth quarter? I mean, have you've been surprised by the stability there?

  • Melissa D. Smith - Chairman of the Board, President & CEO

  • If you look across the portfolio, and obviously, we're looking at volume when we gave guidance for the fourth quarter. But in October, we continue to see volume growth across the Fleet business, really strong volume growth as Travel and Corporate Payments and really strong volume growth in our Health business. So when I think about macro and I talk a little bit about resiliency for a minute because I want to hit on some of the points that we said in our prepared remarks. But the business, when I think about how much more diversified that we have, we are, and we've done a lot to buffer our interest rate sensitivity, the HSA deposits that we've added into the mix is really helping, and we look forward at many different scenarios of what could happen in the future. We're benefiting right now from inflation because you're seeing that coming through not in just energy costs, but higher costs that are getting charged across the portfolio. We're going into open enrollment season and we're trending positive from that we've got 80% of the revenue that's reoccurring in nature, and we're much more diversified across the business and across the geos. So we feel good about all of that when we talk about resiliency and is part of why we felt really comfortable around increasing our share buyback program was looking at many of the different scenarios that could play out in just the cash flow generation that we have. From a macro perspective, when we talk to our customers across the different segments, the #1 thing we continue to hear from them is still about labor and access to labor. The over-the-road marketplace, we hit on earlier the smaller over-the-road customers, which is a micro segment -- a micro segment for us is being impacted by spot rates. Again, so far, a lot of that volume has been picked up by the larger customers. We do think that this is more cyclical part of the business. And if you go back to even 2019 softness in that part of the business, same-store sales were down 2% or 3%, I think, in 2019 was flat again this last quarter. So that's one segment that I think we are hearing a little bit of distress again with the micro segment of that. But then across the broader portfolio, we're seeing actually really positive trends.

  • Robert Paul Napoli - Partner and Co-Group Head of Financial Services & Technology

  • Great. Interesting. Follow-up just on your M&A and your historical M&A, I guess, you have been active, but should we see more M&A, I guess, going into 2023? And like some of your acquisitions in the past, I mean how have you -- how would you say you've done overall, your with grade would you give yourself or what acquisitions have outperformed, which have underperformed. Obviously, Europe has been tough in fleet, but some of your U.S. fleet acquisitions. So just any thoughts around M&A, historical M&A and performance versus expectations.

  • Melissa D. Smith - Chairman of the Board, President & CEO

  • Yes. One of the things we do is we look back across the portfolio of M&A, we feel really good about the way that we've delivered against the original model, how we've reached synergy targets across the portfolio. In the most recent with being sold in, you can see that just how we've delivered really strong earnings growth. You can see that coming through the segment related to that transaction, which, again, is the most recent one. So when we think about M&A and more broadly about capital allocation, we still start with how we're going to invest money internally, which is a key focus of ours as we also think about building capabilities as opposed to just buying. Then when we look at M&A, we've got a pipeline that we have had active -- as long as I can remember, we're moving assets through that pipeline. In the market so far over the last probably 6 to 9 months, we've seen -- still continue to have elevated multiples and/or assets that either are we think, complicating and what we're trying to do strategically or therefore distracting. And so we haven't executed on something recently that we are very active in the marketplace. We think it's an important part of our growth. It's part of the -- we say 2% to 3% of a long-term growth framework that's going to come from M&A. What we really (inaudible) if you look at the current market environment, we see the purchase of our own shares is a very compelling value, and we think we can do both. We generate a lot of cash, ability to continue to be active in the marketplace from an M&A perspective and to buy back shares.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Sanjay Sakhrani with KBW.

  • Sanjay Harkishin Sakhrani - MD

  • I want to start where you just discussed Melissa. Just it was nice to see a large increase in the repurchase authorization. I'm just curious like how aggressive do you expect to be with that $575 million or so that's remaining. And are there any limitations on how much you could buy?

  • Melissa D. Smith - Chairman of the Board, President & CEO

  • I think Jagtar is probably going to (inaudible). But you can see in the course of this year, we've been pretty ratable about what we've used and opportunistic if that have we've used our share buyback authorizations. So far to kind of keep that in the backdrop of how we're thinking about that. And Jagtar would be talking more about limitations.

  • Jagtar Narula - CFO

  • Yes. We have some limitations in our debt covenants, Sanjay. I'm doing this off the top of my head. I think it's $350 million once debt-to-EBITDA goes up above, I want to say 2 -- it's like 2.8x, something like that, 3x. So we've got some room there. And should we end up with those levels and have the limitations, we could obviously go back to our ledgers. So I feel pretty good about our ability to continue to execute our share repurchase program along the lines of...

  • Sanjay Harkishin Sakhrani - MD

  • Okay. Great. And then I'd just like 2 quick follow-ups on a couple of points that were discussed before. On the interest rate sensitivity, I just want to make sure I understand like the HSA deposits are a hedge and then the assets that you have against them are a hedge against the floating rate debt that you have as well as the hedges, right? And the discount rate ladders, I mean you expect to use them if you need to, but those other factors are the hedge? I'm just trying to think through how (inaudible) of those? And then -- yes, and I have one more, sorry.

  • Jagtar Narula - CFO

  • Yes. Sure, Sanjay. Why don't I walk you through the math, I think it would be helpful. So we have about of $2.7 million of financing debt, right? This is our term loans or convert or revolver. We have another kind of $3.6 billion of what I call operational debt. So these are the bank deposits, money market deposits and the HSA deposits. When I look at within that group of liabilities, the interest rate swaps that we have that fix some of that and things like the converts that are essentially fixed, we end up roughly with about $2 billion of liabilities that both with interest rates. On the asset side of the equation, we have the items that you talked about. So we have the HSA assets, as the HSA deposits are invested in as well as the escalator clauses in some of our contracts with merchants. So when I net those 2 together, I end up with roughly about $1 billion net liabilities that would move with interest rates. So I think of it as 100 basis points in is a net result is a $10 million interest impact. So next, a bit lower than you look at if you're just kind of look at our balance sheet.

  • Sanjay Harkishin Sakhrani - MD

  • Okay. All right, wonderful. And then just final point on the impairment charge. I mean, how should we think about any further necessary charges? I understand like this was related to macro, you may miss a change, but should we see more of these going forward if it may be? Or this is pretty much it?

  • Jagtar Narula - CFO

  • Yes. No, Sanjay, I'm not expecting any further charges. There's no remaining goodwill on our 3 business. And I would say the rest of our portfolio has got a lot of headroom. So I'm not expecting any further charges.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Darrin Peller with Wolfe Research.

  • Darrin David Peller - MD & Senior Analyst

  • I just want to start off going back to the fleet side for a minute. When I look at the macro-adjusted growth, I think, mid-teens type levels. I know comps got a little bit easier this quarter. But I mean, where are we in terms of recovery back in terms of normalized trends, just seems a little stronger than one would have expected even with that. And so I guess I wonder if there's something -- some nuances or drivers that you see as sustainable that can drive little bit more of an elevated growth rate? Or is it really just the comps and recoveries? If you could just touch on that for a moment.

  • Melissa D. Smith - Chairman of the Board, President & CEO

  • I think the part that's important is we continue to win business. We have high retention rates. We have a very strong sales capability. And so what you're seeing is the combination of those 2 things coming together. So the rebound -- in some areas, we're continuing to see rebound from the pandemic levels. And then on top of that, you're seeing our execution of things that we sold last year that we're adding into the portfolio of things that we're selling this year that are adding to the portfolio. As an example, if you look at growth in the quarter as we added, we talked about the portfolio that we were going to add into the mix and we did in the course of the quarter. So you can see the benefit of that coming through, which we'll realize through the next 4 quarters. It's part of why we keep talking about names of customers that we're bringing on because it is an important part of our ability to grow in the business. So in the fourth quarter, you start to see it normalize a little bit more. So the growth in the company is more about just organic sales growth that's come through, again, customer retention, some increased penetration with existing customers. The long-term model that we put out there, as a reminder, we said that we would grow 4% to 5% with existing customers, 3% to 5% net new, 1 to 2 from products and from M&A long term. And we've clearly over-delivered on that in the course of this year.

  • Darrin David Peller - MD & Senior Analyst

  • Okay. So the other question I have is really more about expense management now just kind of through the cycle and a potentially tough economy next year. And just -- it's really a combination of a willingness and a capability in terms of what you want to do to protect the bottom line on that front? And then maybe just if you could remind us the levers you think you have to be flexible.

  • Melissa D. Smith - Chairman of the Board, President & CEO

  • Let me start, and then Jagtar, you can add to this. But I think we have so much opportunity that we want to make sure that we are being thoughtful about investing through cycles and that we continue to invest to make sure that the enterprise can reach its potential and our long-term growth targets. And I think that's an important aspect of that. We manage the business as if it's fuel price neutral. That being said, we talked about some of the ways that we're focusing on squeezing out efficiencies. We're trying to do that thinking about ways that we can create a better customer experience and creating efficiency. So a very -- a big focus of ours of simplifying the way that we do business with our customers for their benefit. And we think that, that is a way of -- we created an investment to a relatively short-term investment. You actually get quite a bit of benefit from that. And to add, Jagtar.

  • Jagtar Narula - CFO

  • Yes. I would -- I think would concur with what Melissa said. I think our focus for the next year will be on the cost savings that Melissa identified. So I think when we have some levers to work on costs, I think our focus next year will really be that $100 million number and getting as much of that into next year, and I think that's a big lever for us in the environment.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Sheriq Sumar with Evercore ISI.

  • Sheriq Sumar - Research Analyst

  • The health benefits account, I mean that's all like a nice pickup in the average of SaaS accounts, I believe you said on the side. But just to kind of -- for our understanding as to what's the strength out there in terms of WEX offering versus the competitors? And how should we think about that trend going forward from here?

  • Melissa D. Smith - Chairman of the Board, President & CEO

  • So we talked about the fact that we saw 8% account growth, but that we had some temporary accounts last year. So if you normalize that, it was up 13%, which tracked more consistently with that we saw in the Health and Employee Benefit segment. The really -- the big things for us, we're really uniquely positioned in the health benefit ecosystem because of just the sheer size of customer base that we have, both directly with our partners. We have 18 million SaaS accounts, over 50% is Fortune 1000 to do business with us, and that enables us to collect data that can do things like help a consumer determine what's the best place, how much money should they be putting away in an HSA or an FSA account, helping them determine benefit options. All of that did create wisdom for our customers and creates this nice cycle for us, also bit end-to-end capability with our partners and our customers because we were able to do FSA and HSA and in a whole host of account types and capability that sits across our portfolio. They like that ease of use of being able to do that all with one partner. And just to highlight again, we're going into open enrollment season, which is a really important time and trending positively. Right now, is a testament to the fact that the offering is resonating in the marketplace.

  • Sheriq Sumar - Research Analyst

  • Got it. That's helpful. And if I can just squeeze one in. Can you provide an update on where does Flume stands and what's the cross-selling opportunity out there for Flume?

  • Melissa D. Smith - Chairman of the Board, President & CEO

  • Flume, we moved from a beta launch into a full product launch this quarter and really early. The offering that we have in the marketplace, we're seeing -- we have customers that are both outside of our business and customers where we're increasing wallet share with their existing customers for us. And so we think that this creates a unique opportunity for us to deepen wallet share that we have within the business portfolio, the 450,000 customers that we have. It is a model (inaudible) we charge SaaS fees plus other transaction-related fees. And so it also gives us an opportunity to broaden and diversify our revenue stream. But as I say, it's early, and we will talk more about it as we go through next year.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Jeff Cantwell with Wells Fargo.

  • Jeffrey Brian Cantwell - Senior Equity Analyst

  • Most of my questions have been answered. I wanted to ask a follow-up question on Flume based on a prior question. And you are now in full production. So obviously, we understand it's still very early days, but we've been hearing a lot of good things about Flume. So just a couple of questions here. First, the way that we're understanding the underlying part of the commentary is you're thinking Flume into 2023 and 2024, I suppose, so this business is accretive as kind of the underlying question. And then second, have you thought about what type of growth you expect in revenue? And what are the impacts directionally on the margins? Or help us kind of think about the potential of you're thinking about it? Any color there would be great.

  • Melissa D. Smith - Chairman of the Board, President & CEO

  • Yes, sure. So kind of impact that a little bit. The way that we're thinking about Flume is it gives us an ability to increase wallet share with our existing customers. The way that we designed it was working with very small customers who think that this is kind of like a micro segment that fits within -- when we started segmenting our small business customer base, we were targeting the customers that we're seeing within our existing portfolio. We also, through the product process, brought in people who are not using our existing products as well. So it's very customer informed. The places that we have been focusing on, it was pretty clear that getting paid is an important part of the small business offering. And the other things that became clear is that this customer base wants something that is digital in nature, but moves them into the digital age. These are often customers they're not highly digitally enabled. And so the way that when you look in the field, the way that it was designed was with that in mind, appeals to people who are digitally enabled, but is really thoughtful about the fact that many of these customers, and I gave an example in the prepared remarks, are using very manual processes now. And so as we thought about this, we were able to move it into the marketplace rapidly. We have an ability to cross-sell it into our existing customer base and potentially use that more directly in the marketplace outside of our existing customer base. I'd say the kind of the primary focus as we were thinking about this was meeting a need that we have with their existing customers and then maybe opportunistically being able to pick up customers outside of that. Again, we're early. We're going to learn a lot and then I think we'll be better able to size what the opportunity is.

  • Operator

  • We have run out of time for the question-and-answer session. I will now turn the call back over to Steve for closing remarks.

  • Steven Alan Elder - SVP of Global IR

  • Thank you, everyone. I know we went a few minutes over, but I appreciate everyone's attention and time for the call today, and we'll look forward to speaking with you again for our fourth quarter earnings.

  • Operator

  • This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.