Univest Financial Corp (UVSP) 2021 Q1 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Good morning and welcome to the Univest Financial Corporation First Quarter 2021 Earnings Call.

  • (Operator Instructions) Please note this event is being recorded.

  • I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Jeffrey Schweitzer.

  • Please go ahead, sir.

  • Jeffrey M. Schweitzer - President, CEO & Director

  • Thank you, Chris, and good morning and thank you to all of our listeners for joining us.

  • Joining me on the call this morning is Mike Keim, President of Univest Bank and Trust; and Brian Richardson, our Chief Financial Officer.

  • Before we begin, I would like to start by saying I hope everyone listening is staying safe, and you and your families are healthy.

  • I also need to remind everyone of the forward-looking statements disclaimer.

  • Please be advised that during the course of this conference call, management may make forward-looking statements that express management's intentions, beliefs or expectations within the meaning of the federal securities laws.

  • Univest's actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements.

  • I will refer you to the forward-looking cautionary statements in our earnings release and in our SEC filings.

  • Hopefully, everyone had a chance to review our earnings release from yesterday.

  • If not, it can be found on our website at univest.net under the Investor Relations tab.

  • We reported net income of $32.6 million during the first quarter or $1.11 per share.

  • We were very pleased with our results for the quarter as our pretax pre-provision income for the quarter was up $7 million or 31.9% compared to the first quarter of last year.

  • During the quarter, we experienced solid loan growth with loans excluding PPP loans growing $63.5 million or 5.3% annualized.

  • The first quarter is historically one of our lighter quarters for loan growth.

  • Additionally, deposits grew in step with loans growing $68.9 million or 5.3% annualized.

  • Our mortgage banking team continues to perform very well as both volume and margins continue to be strong, despite low inventory in our markets.

  • Additionally, we had strong investment advisory income, which increased 10.4% compared to the same period in the prior year due to favorable market conditions and new relationships.

  • As our local economies continue to open and vaccinations continue to be administered, the economy for the foreseeable future looks solid and improving.

  • As a result, we were able to reverse $11.3 million of our provision for credit losses with $12.9 million due to favorable changes in economic-related assumptions within our CECL model.

  • Before I throw it over to Brian, I just want to thank the members of the Univest family.

  • They continue to do a wonderful job serving our customers, our communities and each other as we continue to work through the current environment and move Univest forward.

  • I will now turn it over to Brian for further discussion on our results.

  • Brian?

  • Brian J. Richardson - Executive VP & CFO

  • Thank you, Jeff.

  • And I would also like to thank everyone for joining us today.

  • During the quarter, we displayed our continued ability to generate organic loan growth.

  • In 2020, we achieved loan growth of 9.9%, excluding PPP loans, despite the inherent headwinds presented by the pandemic.

  • As Jeff mentioned, the first quarter is traditionally a slower growth quarter for us, but we were still able to achieve annualized growth of 5.3% despite a $58.1 million decrease in commercial line utilization.

  • As of March 31, 2021, commercial line utilization was -- it was 30.2% compared to 34% at December 31, 2020 and 37.4% at December 31, 2019.

  • In addition to demonstrating our continued ability to grow loans, we continue to have strong performance in our core business.

  • For the quarter, we produced a pretax pre-provision ROAA of 1.82%.

  • I would now like to touch on 4 items from the earnings release.

  • First, as Jeff mentioned, our reversal of provision for credit losses was $11.3 million for the quarter, which was driven by a $12.9 million benefit due to favorable changes in economic-related assumptions within our CECL model, offset by reserves attributable to our 5.3% annualized loan growth during the quarter.

  • The allowance for credit loss coverage ratio, excluding PPP loans, was 1.46% at March 31, 2021, compared to 1.72% at December 31, 2020, and 1.53% at March 31, 2020.

  • During the first quarter, our COVID-related deferral activity was relatively stable, ending March at $73 million or 1.5% of the portfolio.

  • Additionally, the reserve release was supported by decreases in nonperforming assets, net charge-offs and delinquencies during the quarter.

  • Second, reported margin of 3.12% was up 10 basis points compared to the fourth quarter.

  • Reported NIM was negatively impacted by 11 basis points of excess liquidity, which averaged $198 million for the quarter compared to $256 million in the fourth quarter and $329 million in the third quarter of 2020.

  • PPP loans increased NIM by 4 basis points during the quarter and contributed $4.5 million to net interest income, of which $2.3 million was the result of forgiveness and pay downs of loans totaling $119.7 million.

  • Core margin, excluding excess liquidity and the PPP impact, was 3.19%, a decrease of 3 basis points when compared to the fourth quarter of 2020.

  • As of March 31, $9.5 million of net deferred fees from PPP loans remained on the balance sheet, which represents approximately 55% of the initial net deferred fee amount.

  • Third, noninterest income was up $4.9 million or 26.5% when compared to the first quarter of 2020.

  • As Jeff mentioned, our mortgage banking business continues to perform very well, driven by strong volumes and margins.

  • Additionally, investment advisory income also saw a nice increase year-over-year.

  • Insurance commission and fee income included contingent income of $1.3 million, which was -- or $1.1 million, which was consistent with the first quarter of 2020.

  • Swap fees also totaled $1.1 million for the quarter compared to $1.6 million for the fourth quarter and $140,000 for the first quarter of 2020.

  • Fourth, noninterest expense was up 2% compared to the first quarter of 2020.

  • This includes $582,000 of incremental capitalized compensation associated with PPP loans originated during the quarter.

  • Additionally, the first quarter of 2020 included long-term debt extinguishment charges of $656,000.

  • After adjusting for these 2 items, our expenses were up 5.2% compared to the first quarter of 2020.

  • This increase was partially driven by variable compensation due to strong pretax pre-provision income during the quarter.

  • I believe the remainder of the earnings release was straightforward and that concludes my prepared remarks.

  • We will be happy to answer any questions.

  • Operator, would you please begin the question-and-answer session?

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our first question is from [Andrew De Franca] of KBW.

  • Unidentified Analyst

  • This is Andrew.

  • I'm stepping in for Mike today.

  • So you guys mentioned the improving economic conditions, but loan growth opportunities also seem to be pretty active.

  • So how do you guys think about the balance and the provision expense going forward and the overall reserve ratio level?

  • Brian J. Richardson - Executive VP & CFO

  • That's going to continue to be a function of economic conditions as we see those improving.

  • And we do are tied to Moody's.

  • So as Moody's forecast improve, we would see that come through.

  • That's what we experienced in the fourth quarter and again here in the first quarter being at that 146% coverage ratio.

  • If we think back to where our coverage was at the implementation of CECL, we were at a 110% coverage ratio.

  • So I would expect kind of us to operate in that range of 146% where we are trending down slightly as things would continue to improve should they continue to improve.

  • But I think you can conceptually think about that initial implementation level of a 1.1% coverage as a longer-term pipe for where things would land.

  • Unidentified Analyst

  • Great.

  • And you guys had strong fee contribution as well in the first quarter.

  • Just a couple of questions on that.

  • Wondering if you had any update on the mortgage pipeline and the dynamics in the market right now.

  • And secondly, I think Q1 benefits seasonally on the insurance and wealth side.

  • But any update on the growth pipelines in those businesses as well?

  • Michael S. Keim - President & Director

  • So I'll take the first part of this, Andrew.

  • It's Mike Keim.

  • On the mortgage side, our pipeline remains strong, but the mix clearly is changing from refi to more purchase oriented.

  • And as Jeff alluded to in his opening comments, the biggest problem on the purchase side in our area is a lack of inventory.

  • But we continue to hire loan officers when we continue to drive the business to be purchase-oriented and then live off or refis when we get them.

  • Jeffrey M. Schweitzer - President, CEO & Director

  • And on the fee income side, you're correct.

  • With respect to insurance, the first quarter, we get contingent income, which is really profit sharing from the carriers that we do business with that Brian alluded as around $1.1 million this quarter.

  • That doesn't repeat itself in the following quarters during the year.

  • That's a first quarter dynamic.

  • With respect to wealth, there isn't necessarily any first quarter unusual items that would drive the increases that we've seen.

  • The real driver there is what's happened with the market.

  • Our assets under management and supervision are up over $900 million from last year at this time when the market pulled back.

  • So we've seen a lot of appreciation as a result of the market, which increased revenue, but also, I would say, on the wealth side, things have opened up a lot more.

  • We started a private banking office where we're getting good traction working with our wealth group.

  • And just overall, with the market conditions, we're seeing a lot of opportunities on the well side and the pipelines are solid.

  • The insurance side, pipelines are a little lighter than they historically are.

  • Predominantly with people working remotely, it's still a little harder to get appointments and the like with HR directors when it comes to employee benefits.

  • So while they are starting to improve as things are opening up and people are getting vaccinated, that's been a little bit more of a lag compared to wealth, which is pretty much back to historical levels with respect to pipelines.

  • Unidentified Analyst

  • Great.

  • And lastly, capital is building nicely.

  • Any update on capital deployment priorities, including share repurchases and bank and nonbank M&A?

  • Jeffrey M. Schweitzer - President, CEO & Director

  • So with respect to capital, as we've alluded to in the past, our first goal is to pay off our subordinated debt that will be losing its capital treatment and we have about $75 million of that, which will be happening in June, the end of June.

  • With respect to share buybacks, that's not something we're necessarily entertaining right now.

  • Once we pay back the subordinated debt, everything will be on the table.

  • But we still continue to see solid loan growth opportunities and organic growth as we've been -- continued to expand our markets.

  • And we do want to keep some dry powder as we've challenged our heads of wealth and insurance to start to build more robust pipelines when it comes to M&A.

  • So we do want to keep some dry powder for potential M&A on the wealth and insurance side.

  • And combined with our -- what we see as really solid loan growth for the rest of the year as the economy continues to operate in our markets fairly well.

  • We want -- we think we have adequate capital for all those opportunities.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Matthew Breese of Stephens Inc.

  • Matthew M. Breese - MD & Analyst

  • I think the cadence and extent of charge-offs over the last -- now this quarter and over the last 12 months has certainly taken us all by surprise given where we were.

  • From your current advantage and looking at the nonperforming assets on the books, do you feel like charge-offs this year will more closely resemble what we've seen over the last 2 years?

  • Or could you give us some color on how you think charge-offs might play out now that we have a little bit more of a firmer ground underneath us?

  • Brian J. Richardson - Executive VP & CFO

  • Yes.

  • I think for the foreseeable future, the kind of experience that we've had the last couple of quarters is what we expect to occur.

  • Again, there is just the inherent uncertainty as we come out of the pandemic.

  • And as long as everything continues to head in the right direction, I think holding charge-offs relatively flat to where that we've seen in the last couple of quarters would be a reasonable expectation.

  • Matthew M. Breese - MD & Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Okay.

  • And then just on the margin, stripping away PPP and liquidity.

  • Just wanted to get a sense for where you think we are in the process of finding a bottom on the margin?

  • And have we hit that inflection point where you think kind of core net interest income can go from here?

  • Brian J. Richardson - Executive VP & CFO

  • Yes.

  • I think we're certainly starting to hit that trough.

  • There could be slight pressure going forward.

  • You're going to have noise like you said on a reported basis due to PPP and excess liquidity.

  • But I think on a normalized basis, we're certainly hitting that trough at this point in time.

  • Matthew M. Breese - MD & Analyst

  • And what's the impact?

  • Could you just remind us of the terms of the sub debt that you could repay and what the impact on the NIM could be from that?

  • Brian J. Richardson - Executive VP & CFO

  • Yes.

  • So the interest expense savings will be roughly $3 million annualized.

  • There is a piece of those that's fixed today that will be flipping either around the 5% level that will be flipping to -- would be flipping to 4% once it goes variable and our other one is just below 4%.

  • So when you look at that, you're right around $3 million of annualized interest expense savings.

  • Matthew M. Breese - MD & Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Great.

  • And the last question from me is there's continued to be a lot of disruption in Pennsylvania, Eastern Pennsylvania.

  • Historically, you all have done a great job kind of on the hiring and on the hiring front, particularly in commercial lending -- on the lending side.

  • How does that pipeline look?

  • And then the more recent deals, there's actually been some insurance verticals also -- I'm sorry, fee income verticals also disrupted.

  • Just curious if there's hiring opportunity on the wealth and insurance front as well.

  • Jeffrey M. Schweitzer - President, CEO & Director

  • Well, I'll kick off on the wealth and insurance front.

  • Unfortunately, the same challenge that we always have in wealth and insurance is non-compete to non-solicits.

  • And just because somebody gets acquired doesn't mean that those go away.

  • So the hiring part of it will still be a challenge.

  • It's not like in -- with the commercial bank where you can lift out a team or take talent away from somebody when they're being acquired on the wealth insurance side.

  • They still have the non-competes and non-solicits which carry over.

  • With that said, obviously disruption is still always a good thing in our eyes for us because it does provide opportunity on the customer side of things where they're going to be changing in one way or the other, so maybe they might be open to a conversation.

  • Michael S. Keim - President & Director

  • And on the banking side, Matt, we're continuing to -- we've added people in the first quarter on the commercial side of the equation.

  • We'd look to continue to grow on our expanded markets in Central Pennsylvania, the capital region.

  • And on the mortgage side of the equation, we had a very active pipeline of recruits, and our benefit and value prop to them as we can get deals closed for them.

  • So we continue to be active in getting after it.

  • Matthew M. Breese - MD & Analyst

  • Got it.

  • Okay.

  • I'm sorry, just one more to sneak in.

  • Could you just give us a sense for what you think core ex-PPP loan growth could look for the year?

  • I think you had mentioned previously maybe like a mid to high single-digit growth, but just curious if there's any updates there.

  • Brian J. Richardson - Executive VP & CFO

  • Yes, Matt.

  • We had previously guided to 7% to 8% excluding PPP for the year and we think that continues to hold true at this point in time.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) The next question is from Frank Schiraldi of Piper Sandler.

  • Frank Joseph Schiraldi - MD & Senior Research Analyst

  • Most of my questions have been answered, but I -- just a follow-up on the question of hiring lender.

  • I would imagine that there's a lot of competition or more, even more so than usual for good commercial lenders in the footprint.

  • So just wondering if that's been the case, if it's been tougher to bring over teams, bring over individuals.

  • And is that -- how does that impact your expectations for the loan growth?

  • Are your expectations such that you anticipate hiring another certain amount of individuals per quarter?

  • Or what are your thoughts on loan growth if you're able to continue to hire people or if you -- if that doesn't come to fruition, I guess, through the rest of the year?

  • Jeffrey M. Schweitzer - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes.

  • So the first part of it, Frank, the competition for good quality people is always strong.

  • And I would tell you the bigger impact on us is that because we're successful, people would like to come after and grab our folks.

  • So we're strongly defending our position and making sure that we keep our good folks because that is really the secret sauce to our loan growth success is the quality of our folks.

  • We continue to get after it.

  • I feel that we can deliver that 7% to 8% that Brian referenced with our existing staff.

  • Remember, there's always a ramp-up period as we add people anyway.

  • But there is no magic number for who we're trying to recruit.

  • I don't like to put a number on that.

  • What I'd like to do is say, anytime that we can find a quality person that will add strength to our teams, then we'll add them.

  • But on the broader scale, we can deliver the 7% to 8% with the team that we have today.

  • Operator

  • Thank you very much.

  • So we have no further questions in the queue.

  • And I'd like to hand the conference back to Mr. Schweitzer for any closing remarks.

  • Jeffrey M. Schweitzer - President, CEO & Director

  • Thank you, Chris, and thank you, everyone, for joining us this morning.

  • We appreciate the attention and participation on our call and the questions.

  • We look forward to what looks to be a strong 2021 as the economy continues to open up and activity looks pretty robust in our markets, and we look to definitely participate in that and look forward to talking to everybody again after we release earnings in the second quarter.

  • Have a great day.

  • Operator

  • Thank you very much, sir.

  • Ladies and gentlemen, the conference is now concluded.

  • Thank you for attending today's presentation and you may now disconnect.