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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the UserTesting First Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Erica Mannion at Sapphire Investor Relations.

  • Thank you. Please go ahead.

  • Erica L. Mannion - President

  • Thank you, and good afternoon. With me today from UserTesting are Andy McMillan, Chief Executive Officer; and John Paxton, Chief Financial Officer. Andy will begin with a brief review of the business results for the first quarter ended March 31, 2022. John will then review the financial results for the first quarter, followed by the company's outlook for the second quarter and full year of 2022. We will then open the call for questions.

  • Please note that this call will include forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from management's current expectations. For a discussion of the material risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, please refer to the risk factors contained in our SEC filings available on the SEC website and on our Investor Relations section of our website as well as the risks and other important factors discussed in today's press release.

  • Additional information will also be set forth in our quarterly report on Form 10-Q to be filed for the quarter ended March 31, 2022. All material contained in the webcast is the sole property and copyright of UserTesting with all rights reserved. Please note this discussion includes certain non-GAAP measures, including non-GAAP net loss and non-GAAP net loss per share, which are not measures prepared in accordance with U.S. GAAP. We have included non-GAAP measures in this discussion as we believe that they provide investors with the means of evaluating and understanding how the company's management evaluates the company's operating performance. These non-GAAP measures should not be considered in isolation from, as substitutes for or superior to financial measures prepared in accordance with U.S. GAAP.

  • Information regarding reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP measures can be found in the press release that was issued this afternoon on our Investor Relations section of our website.

  • Now I would like to turn the call over to Andy.

  • Andrew MacMillan - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Thank you, Erica, and thanks, everyone, for joining us on the call this afternoon. I'll begin with a few financial highlights from the quarter, then discuss some business updates here at UserTesting. We reported a record first quarter with revenue of $46 million, up 47% year-over-year. Subscription revenue accounted for over 90% of total revenue for the quarter and reached $43 million, an increase of 51% from the prior year. We had great momentum in the quarter with our large customers, which we categorize as those spending more than $100,000 in ARR, growing to 335 customers, representing a 55% increase year-over-year.

  • Our Q1 net dollar retention rate across all customer segments was 117%, consistent from 1 year ago. In total, we now have approximately 2,500 customers on the platform, up 35% from 1 year ago. Some business highlights in the quarter included the publication of the 9th annual user testing CX industry survey. The report is based on feedback from over 5,000 global professionals and found that customer experience is a top investment area for 78% of executives.

  • We also published the ROI of customer empathy study, which was based on feedback from 200 global CEOs to understand the role of customer empathy plays in overall business success. According to the study, nearly 80% of CEOs agree customer empathy fuels financial performance. The study revealed 3 key trends. First, CEOs agree that attention must be paid to customer empathy; second, designing better products and experiences take deep customer understanding; and third, direct interaction is the best way to gain customer insights. This research reflects what we see every day with our customers. Customer empathy is having a greater impact on overall business outcomes.

  • Turning to some recent product updates. We're excited about our recent market release, which includes 3 important new features. First is usage management for workspaces. This allows for better management of platform capacity across the organization for teams leveraging workspaces for different departments, user groups or lines of business. Second is insight customization Customers can now train our machine learning models with their specific terminology, such as product names or industry terms to ensure faster time to insight using keywords that matter most. Third is that user testing is now HIPAA compliant. This enables customers to gather feedback and insights, including managing protected health information from the user testing contributor network or from their own patients securely and confidently. This aligns with our broader view that consumer privacy is becoming increasingly important, and companies are looking to move to a more honest and trusted opt-in conversation and feedback channel with their customers.

  • We believe that this plays directly to a strength of the user testing platform, where all of the feedback and every single customer experience narrative is gathered through an opt-in process. Within this process, the participants sharing their thoughts on screen now that they are being recorded and know that they are sharing their perspectives with an organization. New customer wins and growth transactions in the first quarter included British Airways Corporation, Canada Post, Full Story, HP, Parkland Fuel, ServiceNow, Volvo Cars and WM, previously known as Waste Management. We are very excited to have these customers adopting and expanding usage of our Human Insight Platform.

  • We continue to make investments in growing our international presence, including the recent hire of Jeff Solomon, who will lead operations in Canada. In the first quarter, international revenue increased 73% compared with the prior year period and represented 20% of Q1 total revenue. As we see more and more of the industry looking for Human Insights and ways to build empathy with customers, we're excited about the future. We look forward to updating all of you in the quarters to come.

  • With that, I'll turn it over to John to discuss our financial results in more detail.

  • Jonathan Pexton - CFO

  • Thank you, Andy, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm excited to announce the financial results for the first quarter of 2022 today. It was our fifth consecutive quarter with year-over-year revenue growth of greater than 40%, and we saw consistent performance over many metrics. Let's begin with the key financial highlights.

  • Revenue in the first quarter was a record $46 million, an increase of 47% compared to the prior year period. Subscription revenue of $43 million increased 51%. As we mentioned on our last earnings call, there was an accounting adjustment in the first quarter that increased subscription revenue by $1.3 million related to the favorable remediation of a potential sales tax liability. Excluding that accounting benefit, the total revenue growth rate would have been 43% and the subscription revenue growth rate would have been 46%. That accounting adjustment puts the majority of our sales tax remediation efforts behind us. And even with that adjustment, again it was still our fifth consecutive quarter of 40% plus year-over-year growth.

  • Our net dollar retention rate was 117% in the first quarter, consistent with the first quarter of 2021. Calculated billings were $50 million, an increase of 37% year-over-year. Historically, the first quarter is seasonally our lightest quarter of the year for billings with Q4 being our seasonally strongest.

  • As I talk about operating loss, free cash flow, gross margins and expenses, I'll be referring to non-GAAP measures unless otherwise specified. A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures is included in today's earnings press release. Operating loss in the first quarter was $8.9 million, which compares to $11.1 million in the prior year period. The operating margin was minus 19% and excluding the accounting benefit of $1.3 million that increased subscription revenue in the quarter, the operating margin would have been minus 23%, which still compares favorably to minus 35% in the year ago period.

  • However, as we mentioned on our last earnings call, Q1 expenses were lower than our expected run rate for the remainder of the year. Q1 benefited from COVID restricted travel and events some of which were rescheduled for the second and third quarters as well as lower marketing spend. Free cash flow was minus $15.8 million in the quarter with a free cash flow margin of minus 35%. We ended the quarter with $163 million in cash. There are a few items of note impacting free cash flow in the quarter. First, we paid the annual premium of our public company D&O insurance policy of nearly $4 million, which will be an annually recurring payment going forward.

  • Second, we paid $1.8 million of cash in the first quarter to settle sales tax liabilities, which were already accrued on the balance sheet. And again, those remediation efforts are mostly behind us at this point. And third, our days sales outstanding was approximately 90 days, which was an improvement from over 100 days in the prior quarter, but still higher than historical periods. Gross margin in the first quarter was 79% and subscription gross margin was 83%, both consistent with the prior quarter and up roughly 500 to 600 basis points compared to the year ago period.

  • Turning to operating expenses. Sales and marketing was 60% of revenue in Q1 compared to 58% in the prior year period. We have increased hiring over the last 2 quarters and plan to continue to invest in sales and marketing over the next few quarters to drive growth and awareness and continue our leadership position in the market. We continue to see some leverage in R&D expense in the first quarter, which was 21% of revenue compared to 31% of revenue in the prior year period. G&A expense was 18% of revenue in the first quarter compared to 19% in the prior year period.

  • Now on to guidance. We are raising our revenue guidance for the full year of 2022 by $2.5 million to a new range of $197 million to $201 million, representing a new growth rate of 34% to 36%. For the second quarter, we expect revenue of $46.5 million to $47.5 million or a growth rate of 33% to 35%. For the full year, we are improving our expected non-GAAP operating margins by 200 basis points to a new range of minus 29% to minus 27%, which is driven by the increased revenue guidance. For the second quarter, we expect non-GAAP operating margins in the range of minus 32% to minus 30%. We expect sales and marketing expense to increase in the second and third quarters as a percentage of revenue as we have the full expense impact of recent hiring, increased spend in marketing programs and a planned return to pre-COVID levels of travel and in-person events, including our sales club sales kickoff customer conference and other events. We believe the full year operating margin guidance addresses this planned increase. For the full year, we expect non-GAAP net loss per share between minus $0.37 and minus $0.39, assuming the 145 million weighted average shares outstanding.

  • For the second quarter, we expect non-GAAP net loss per share of negative $0.10, assuming 143.5 million weighted average shares outstanding. One last point before we begin the Q&A session is a reminder that under the terms of the lockup agreements with the underwriters of the UserTesting IPO, all lockup restrictions will end immediately prior to the opening of trading on May 6.

  • Overall, we are pleased with the quarter. We achieved record revenues, strong customer growth, particularly with our large customers, and improved operating margins, and we are excited about the market opportunity ahead of us.

  • With that, we'll open the call for questions. Operator, will you please prompt for questions?

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) The first question comes from the line of Terry Tillman with Truist.

  • Terrell Frederick Tillman - Research Analyst

  • And it's great to see you're all a top employer here in my hometown of Atlanta, so that's nice. I haven't been done with the book yet, so I'm going to have to come on the next earnings call to ask about -- or kind of share my knowledge on the book. But now on to my questions, congrats on quarter. I think the first question, Andy, for you, it's kind of a high-level question that I was pondering whether I should even ask. But I feel like your old market is about like awareness or lack thereof and what your solution can do in creating those aha moments. So you've got 2 quarters as a public company now that you reported. What are some of the early indicators are the early indicators of increased awareness or market presence after going public? And also maybe you could share a little bit about some of the early kind of any green shoots from some of these new go-to-market investments and where you see some early kind of examples of, hey, we're seeing a good return on that. And then I have a follow-up for John.

  • Andrew MacMillan - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Yes, it's a great question, Terry. I would say I think more so than purely awareness, I mean, obviously, it is good awareness to be a public company, and we obviously have the event of the IPO to drive awareness. But 1 of the things that I think being a public company has helped us is as we drive awareness of a new category, a new kind of capability that people need I think the credibility of being an at-scale public company helps folks pull the trigger on getting on board and deploying the solution and having that confidence. So I think it's definitely been a benefit to our business. But I'd still say we're very early on in driving awareness that this is even possible. And as we've talked about before, really just illuminating more and more use cases of war around an organization and a product team and a marketing team in a research capacity like where you can get this kind of fast, actionable real human insight, I think we're still in the early days of driving that awareness.

  • And sorry, Terry, you also ask about new use cases. We continue to see I would call it sort of innovation on our platform where as folks see what it does when we say UserTesting is one of these things that's sort of obvious in retrospect. Once you see someone provide a customer experience a narrative, you see a real person, a real user give you feedback and show you what it's like to be that user or that customer, people do innovative things. We continue to see people testing all kinds of new technologies. We did a press release, we talked about metaverse testing and templates there. We had some templates we put out about, I think, 3 weeks ago that talked about getting feedback on the eco-friendly and eco-messages around products is that becomes increasingly important. So it's really for us about illuminating those use cases.

  • Terrell Frederick Tillman - Research Analyst

  • Okay. Got it. And then just maybe a follow-up question. On the net revenue retention, I think it was quoted as 117%, I think it was consistent with 1Q '21. Down a point, I guess, from 4Q, I know that's going to move around a little bit. How do we think about the rest of the year based on kind of what you're seeing transpire in terms of new customer growth and then expansion sales and how that could affect NRR? How do we think about it for the rest of the year?

  • Jonathan Pexton - CFO

  • Yes, Terry. The 117% is consistent with a year ago. I think we did 117% in 3 of the last 5 quarters. We had a good quarter at 119% and a good quarter at 118% and -- so it's a blended number. We service customers as low as $15,000 a year on over $5 million a year. So there's a lot kind of going into that. But again, you have enough of a trend line, I think that gives you a sense that where we've been. And so 117% is 3 of the last 5 quarters, and that's kind of where we're keeping our marks going forward right now.

  • Operator

  • The next question comes from Mark Murphy with JP Morgan.

  • Unidentified Analyst

  • This is Ardie on for Mark Murphy. And congrats on the quarter. First thing I had is that you guys have seen any effect from the volatility globally and geopolitically in any of your markets and particularly in Europe. And then in kind of a similar vein, are kind of any of the fears is the tougher macro environment causing customers kind of looking at you guys a little bit harder since you guys are a much more efficient and cost-effective solution versus a lot of the other agency options and all that, if that's on any more of a talking point.?

  • Andrew MacMillan - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Ardie, thanks for the question. In the very specific areas in Europe that are a hotspot right now in Ukraine and Russia, we don't have a lot of direct exposure. Those are not large, either selling markets for us or we don't have employees in those locations. Generally, we continue to see consistent demand in those -- in that region in particular, but globally as well. We have a solution where when there is uncertainty for whatever reason, 1 of the things that our customers are trying to figure out is what does that uncertainty mean to their users, their customers. And so I think we serve a wide variety of use cases to help folks figure that out. And I think we're continuing to see strong demand for that reason. We're continuing to see good execution. I don't -- we don't today see a macro trend changing that.

  • Unidentified Analyst

  • Got it. That's helpful. And then on kind of another vein, I know you guys made -- recently made a hire kind of help drive the partners and sales channels. And I know that's kind of still in the early stages, but important. Can you guys just speak a little bit to that and what you guys are seeing there?

  • Andrew MacMillan - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Yes. It's a big opportunity for us, as we talked about even through the IPO process that we have not historically had a large partner channel, but I think that's an opportunity that we can lean into. We see that in several different areas. One area in particular that we saw some highlights in Q1 that I would call out is we talked about partnerships with Quantum Metric with ContentSquare, which are more on sort of the quantitative data side of measurement. We partner with them and our joint customers use our platform to get qualitative feedback when they want to dig deeper to understand what those maybe quantitative numbers are telling them. We continue to lean into our partnerships with folks like Qualtrics and Adobe, and we're continuing to see I would say, sort of emerging interest of working more closely with agencies themselves, where agencies want to have a more performant way to get this kind of fast feedback as part of the service that they provide to clients.

  • But we're pretty early on in getting into that market. And it's a unique market with some unique characteristics, but 1 in which we think, over time, we can have a real impact. So I'd say early positive signs, but an area we're continuing to invest in and develop those partnerships.

  • Operator

  • The next question comes from Scott Berg with Needham & Co.

  • Scott Randolph Berg - Senior Analyst

  • Andy and John, congrats on a good quarter. Andy, I wanted to start off with the word you mentioned, I think it was to 1 of Terry's questions. You used the word Metaverse. We attended the Shoptalk conference for retail and e-commerce technologies about a month ago. And the key theme was Metaverse. And while we're looking at kind of what some of the use cases there were coming back to how the UserTesting platform can be a kind of a key technology as different brands or companies try to attack what that market opportunity looks like. But how should we think about the Metaverse with regards to the UserTesting platform. Is this -- does it open up new feature functionality use cases? Or is it more of an extension of maybe what customers already using their other use of the platform?

  • Andrew MacMillan - Chairman, CEO & President

  • I think it starts as an extension being that the current solution we have in market today enables our customers to get really compelling feedback from folks in the metaverse if that's something they're interested in learning about. Our platform evolves constantly. We're making investments, as you heard John speak to earlier on the call of investments in R&D. And some of those investments will also continue to iterate on what we can do for customers that are testing in the metaverse. The main thing I would highlight is that our solution enables anyone in an organization to see what it's like to be someone operating in the metaverse, shopping in the metaverse, playing game in the metaverse, whatever it might be. And it doesn't require them to have all the hardware. We sort of take the metaverse can, in many ways, convert it almost to a desktop or mobile experience, where you can imagine sharing a video around your organization of here's what it looks like when our customers are shopping with us in the metaverse.

  • And I think that's really powerful because it bridges this thing that we talk about a user testing called the empathy gap of just what does it like to really be my customer. and how many people in these organizations that are thinking about how they're going to meet customers and the metaverse. Are they themselves, people spending all kinds of time in the metaverse. That might not be the case. And so using our current solution, they can go out and get that kind of feedback quickly for real metaverse users and then distribute that shared understanding around their organization.

  • Scott Randolph Berg - Senior Analyst

  • Got it. Helpful. And then from a follow-up perspective, your quarterly additions for your large customers that spend over 100k a year on the platform, at least in ARR. Bounce right around 30 the last 5 quarters, plus or minus kind of each 1 of that, and that's a material step up from where they were in 2020 before obviously. But how should we think about the growth in those areas? Does it come more from customer expansions those are that are taking over the 100k threshold? Or is there more opportunity going forward to the land above 100k versus what you might have done historically?

  • Andrew MacMillan - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Yes. I think the answer is a little bit of both. I mean you say is there opportunity to land in those higher levels, we do see that from time to time. And I think as we drive awareness and to my point earlier to Terry about credibility as well, where this becomes something people are aware of more and more companies are doing, and I think we'll see opportunities for continued larger land. But most customers that are above that 100k threshold or growing into our largest customers they land below that threshold. They see it. They're like, wow, this is a way to get this kind of feedback. They find other use cases, other folks in the organization see it that information and that word gets out and then we land and expand from there. So it's mostly an expansion play. And I think it's not just to that 100k mark. One other things I also like to remind folks is, it's not like we're a 1-2 punch and once they're over 100k then we're done, we just continue to grow. So that's sort of a demarcation line that we drew just to show large customers. But once they're above 100k we continue to grow them as well.

  • Jonathan Pexton - CFO

  • And I'll just add, Andy, Scott, sorry that we're we also have 6-figure expands that are happening every quarter. And frankly, there's more 6-figure expand deals than there are 6-figure land deals. We're seeing on both sides. But once they have that aha moment, as Andy said, there's some big expand opportunities that can occur.

  • Operator

  • The next question comes from the line of Jake Roberts with William Blair.

  • Unidentified Analyst

  • Just a follow up on that 100,000-plus cohort. So when you get to that scale, are you starting to have kind of C-suite level engagement where you can really show the value of the platform for new use cases outside of the UX research or like marketing and product development? Or are you still really just landing in those smaller departments and expanding within those individual business units from a usage perspective? Just kind of trying to understand the land and expand model right now.

  • Andrew MacMillan - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Jake. Great question. It's a mix of both. I would say we are, on 1 hand, pretty blue collar about sort of getting in there and showing value. And if we're sort of going seat-to-seat sometimes we can see pretty substantial seat and session unit growth just by going in and sort of doing the work and doing that with the frontline teams. And I think we pride ourselves on being able to go and do that. But we also have certain use cases that really do get a lot more visibility internally. We heard some great stories in the past quarter of companies who are doing things like doing testing with more diverse audiences to have more inclusive products. That's top of mind for C-level executives that are thinking about their brand footprint and how they're reaching up to new audiences. The templates we launched and talked about more eco-friendly messaging, again, top of mind for key executives. So I would say even individual teams that are using our product, the usage might really run the gamut. Sometimes it's a really important but tactical thing they're doing maybe with a frontline designer and sometimes it's a project that's getting visibility much higher in the organization. And so it's a real mix.

  • Unidentified Analyst

  • Great. And then just a follow-up question. You mentioned those partnerships with some of the quantitative partners. But I'm curious if -- since you've rolled out that flex based model, have you seen customers start to take in more quantitative approach with your platform where they run hundreds of tests instead of the typical kind of 5, 10, 15 study cadence? And is there anything in terms of the platform's analytics functionality that you think could actually help drive that type of adoption moving forward?

  • Andrew MacMillan - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Jake, it's a great question. If you ever decide investment banking is not for you to come work on the product team. It's right in line with where our heads are at, but I want to be clear about where we are and then where we're going. We do have customers that want to run larger sample sizes, if you will, to the point of your question. And we do now have capabilities in our product to use machine learning, things like our interactive past flows that help you analyze the customer experience narratives much more quickly and does enable us to think about having more substantively larger sample sizes. And you're right that the pricing model does also now line up with that. But to be clear, the pricing model was originally rolled out mostly just to match how our customers thought about buying the product. We do have the ability over time to start to think about really opening up those sample sizes and how the product works.

  • And we'll work with our customers to make sure that we do that in a way that makes sense for them. We do see some demand for that, but it isn't something I'd yet say we've really packaged up in the product as a core strategy.

  • Operator

  • The next question comes from the line of Brian Peterson with Raymond James.

  • Brian Christopher Peterson - Senior Research Associate

  • Congrats on the quarter. So Andy, I want to start with you just on the HIPAA compliance. Obviously, that's a key hurdle for you guys. How do you think that evolves the product? And do you think it maybe caters to certain verticals like that? And I'm also curious from a contributory network perspective, do you need to go out and get different types of people or segment them in a different way. I'd just be curious what do you think about the opportunity, particularly, I guess, as it relates to the health care vertical?

  • Andrew MacMillan - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Yes, I think that's exactly well stated. I think the health care vertical is a big opportunity for us, and the HIPAA certification helps us go after that opportunity. One of the thing years talk a lot about is our product is an entirely opt-in product where you typically work with an anonymized contributor. And we have a large network of qualified contributors, many of whom obviously have health care needs and things. So I think our current network meets the supply side very well. What we heard often though, from health care companies was even though it's anonymized and even though it's all opt-in, they have very clear mandates of using HIPAA compliance software to solve problems. It's just a very good backstop for them just to ensure that for whatever reason, one of our contributors were to, I don't know, say something that was identifiable information or anything like that, that they can just have the comfort and confidence that we have this certification that we're managing all of their data in their CxN in a way that is HIPAA compliant. So I think it's a great opportunity for us. I think you're going to see us reaching out into more and more health care related opportunities, and the certification helps us do that effectively and efficiently and with more confidence.

  • Brian Christopher Peterson - Senior Research Associate

  • Good to hear. And maybe a follow-up for John. I know you mentioned some of the sales and marketing investments stepping up over the next few quarters. When would you expect the return on that? Is that something that you think could drive incremental bookings kind of sales this year? Or should we expect that more in '23?

  • Jonathan Pexton - CFO

  • Yes. So far, we've been pretty happy with the payback period, magic number. I know there's a few different ways to calculate that. But we put a lot of money into the sales and marketing engine, and it's proportionately deliberate output. I think with COVID coming back or going away and is going to start traveling more, we are looking forward to that. We think it's important to get together and see our customers. I don't know that, that extra spend is immediately going to have an impact. It's again reconnecting with customers and getting our sales team together. So it might be a little bit of an impact to magic number in the short term, but it's the right way to go with where we are in the marketplace. And then these in-person user events are also going to be -- have potential, but I don't know if they'll have an immediate return in 3 months.

  • Operator

  • The next question comes from the line of Rob Oliver with Baird.

  • Robert Cooney Oliver - Senior Research Analyst

  • First question is, obviously, great momentum on the large customer expansion side, which Scott and some of the other guys flushed out here. I just was curious, I know around the time of the IPO, you guys are seeing nice momentum from the Flex model, and I know you're not actively seeking to convert people. But just wondering if you could add a little bit more color on the Flex model, whether that's adding -- helping you expand seats and use cases with current customers and how, if at all, that might be contributing? And then I had a quick follow-up for you, John.

  • Andrew MacMillan - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Yes. I appreciate the question. We've been focused on the idea that the Flex model is not designed to really be a price increase on our customers. But it is amazing that when you structure pricing in a way that is clear and transparent and makes sense to customers, they tend to buy more of it over time. And so I think we're seeing that strong performance out of the new pricing model, I think, especially in larger accounts, it's enabling us to expand and drive usage and adoption in a way that shows up in the numbers. We're at a point now where a majority of the revenue is on the Flex pricing model. The majority of our revenue in the quarter was on the new Flex pricing model, and we're not forcing customers to necessarily convert over. But again, most customers see the model and it makes sense to them, which was really kind of the idea. So I think we're really happy with how the model is working and the results that it's delivering.

  • Robert Cooney Oliver - Senior Research Analyst

  • Great. Appreciate it. And then, John, just 1 for you. Just on the tester side, I guess, first, just any observations around changes in either tester capacity or engagement or anything else with people leaving their homes and going back out into the workforce. And then corollary to that, any changes around tester pricing as you guys perceive it?

  • Jonathan Pexton - CFO

  • Yes. Rob. No, tester capacity, our contributor network has got plenty of availability. And so that's really, again, a strength and a unique strength of the business. Similar kind of pricing for that, no changes there. I think we had a gross margin that was probably above our long-term average in the quarter. So seasonally, I think that we have the potential to grow into some more volume. So longer term, I think that 80% is probably a target we're looking at. So we came in, I think, 83% this last quarter. So I think we're probably a little bit above the mean. But there'll be some ebbs and flows, but that's how we think about it.

  • Operator

  • The next question comes from the line of Brent Bracelin with Piper Sandler.

  • Hannah Sable Rudoff - Research Analyst

  • This is Hannah Rudoff on for Brent today. First one, just what percent of customers are using you in conjunction with something like a Qualtrics or Medallia? And I understand that you have very different value propositions. But how do you think about your stickiness relative to a platform like that?

  • Andrew MacMillan - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Sure. Thanks for the question, Hannah. I would say we'd be hard-pressed to find too many customers that don't have additional mechanisms for getting customer feedback. I think surveys and that kind of quantitative feedback is pretty common in the industry. So I would expect most of our customers are using a mix of tools and those vendors certainly included. And a lot of them, again, will use us in concert with those tools, where they will actually often the front load running a survey, for example, by putting the survey itself through user testing. So you're going to ask 5,000 people at question, you should probably make sure that people understand the question before you last it out. And then on the back end, after they get those results and they wonder why did people answer questions 3 and 4 this way, they'll dig in on our platform and get the qualitative feedback that sits underneath that. I think that's why those are typically good partnerships for us.

  • Hannah Sable Rudoff - Research Analyst

  • Great. Really helpful. And then John, it's great to see the really strong demand out there. I guess how much of a cushion did you bake into guidance, just given the macro uncertainty right now? And what's giving you confidence in those numbers you put out?

  • Jonathan Pexton - CFO

  • Yes. I think as we get farther away from our IPO, and we look at the information that we have in front of us. We had a pretty big beat in our first quarter this quarter, another good beat on the revenue side. But we intend to keep that trend line coming down and sharpening our pencils. So we try to put out numbers that are responsible, but the expectation for Q2 should be much smaller than kind of the beats you've seen in the last 2 quarters.

  • Operator

  • The next question comes from the line of Brian Schwartz with Oppenheimer.

  • Ari Max Friedman - Research Analyst

  • This is Ari Friedman subbing in for Brian Schwartz. Congrats on the quarter. I was wondering if there were any specific verticals you're seeing adopt the platform more? I know you guys touched on like HIPAA and spoke about health care. Is that because there's a lot more demand from the health care vertical? Or are you seeing demand kind of everywhere? Any color on that would be great.

  • Andrew MacMillan - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Thanks, Ari. I would say the health care one is, I would say, an untapped demand insofar as I think the HIPAA certification in many ways was an entry card to play in the market. So I don't know that we have been executing into that demand yet. I think the HIPAA certification allows us to start going into that area quite a bit more. We do have some health care customers, but I wouldn't say it was a major vertical push for us. We continue to see broad-based adoption of the solution. One of the slides that we're really proud of in our investor deck and our IPO road show was just how broadly the solution is adopted across so many different industries. And we continue to see both what I would call sort of digitally native companies make this part of their product development process.

  • So some of the digital-first leaders are proud customers of ours. But we're also seeing more and more industries that are going through substantive digital transformation, not only tackling the design aspect of what users need using our product, but maybe even more so tackling the internal cultural aspect of what does it mean to be a "customer" in a digital product flow. I think it's actually a lot more challenging for traditional industries. And so we're continuing to see strong performance in sort of digital transformation centric industries as well.

  • Ari Max Friedman - Research Analyst

  • And if I could sneak in another quick one. I guess what's driving NRR. Is it really just like the new templates or is something else really driving it?

  • Andrew MacMillan - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Yes. So templates are part of it, but it's really this idea of expanding use cases. And so our focus with our customers over the past few quarters has been to go in and drive adoption, not just of maybe the use case they originally brought us on board for, but to illuminate for them the other things they can be using the platform to go do. And so in some ways, the template aren't really about solving a technical problem. It takes 5 to 10 minutes to structure a test on our platform. If you want to launch it. So it's not a -- we're not solving a technical problem. What we're doing is illuminating things that can be done on the platform. And we find that to be a really effective way when a customer or a prospect says, "Oh, I see you have a template for testing this thing I hadn't thought to do that, but that's a really good idea. The templates enable us to communicate those additional use cases. And that use case expansion is really 1 of the indicators that we look at as we see that NRR growth that we saw over the past 4 to 6 quarters into sort of that new range that John mentioned in that kind of 117% to 119% million range.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) The next question comes from the line of Yun Kim with Loop Capital Markets.

  • Yun Suk Kim - MD

  • Congrats on a solid quarter, Andy and John. First, thanks, Andy, for the book. I enjoyed reading it. So it was a good read. So I do have a follow-up question on the contributor network, which obviously (inaudible). Any particular trend that you want to highlight? And then also -- are you trying to do some of those templates and maybe try to make your solution more verticalized, any trend that you want to highlight around the contributor network. And also, are you seeing any higher costs to maintain the quality of your network obviously, given the current state of the labor market and a lot of people going back to work physically, are you seeing at all higher churn rate or higher cost to acquire new contributors? Obviously, the gross margin in the quarter tell us something otherwise, but just wanted to ask?

  • Andrew MacMillan - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Certainly, I appreciate the questions and the nice shout out on the book. Thank you for that. As anybody is thinking about being an offer, it's a lot more work than they tell you at the beginning. The contributor network continues to give us the primary signal that they enjoy taking test. They love having their voice be heard and they would love to continue to take more tests. That's the #1 bit of feedback that we get from the network. We view the gratuity -- essentially the contributor payment to be exactly that, thank you for your time. We're not really paying them a wage per se. We're very clear upfront. This is not how you make a living -- and I think for that reason, we're a bit isolated from the sort of macro environment effects we see of employment or inflation or things like that.

  • This is most folks in our network don't view this is their job. They view this as an opportunity for them to share their feedback, to be heard with some of the leading brands in the world on the things that they're building and to be given to thank you for doing that. And so we continue to see really good performance out of the network. We continue to see a high demand for taking tests. We continue to really high-quality feedback on the network. So I think that's holding well.

  • As far as vertical templates, I think that's a great question. The initial set of templates that we put into the market, which, if you recall, I think we talked about on the last earnings call was actually at the start of the COVID period, we launched a bunch of templates to help our customers adapt to that change in consumer landscape. And we largely sorted those by vertical. We talked to banks about how to do online retail banking for laggards. And we had a template that helped food delivery helped restaurants food delivery services and things like that. And so I think there's a way that we sort of sort the template discovery a bit by vertical. But we will continue to look at things like as we go in maybe more into health care, for example. I'm sure there are templates that will make a lot of sense in the health care industry that we'll feel more vertical than others. So that's certainly an avenue we'll continue to look at. And we think the template strategy is really important. And the more those templates can speak to specific use cases and industries the more powerful they'll be.

  • Yun Suk Kim - MD

  • Okay. Great. And then a quick question to John. In regards to seasonality around billings. Obviously, I understand that Q1 will be the weakest and Q4 being the strongest, especially as your deal size gets larger and larger. But how should we think about Q2 and Q3 billing seasonality? This last year's ?......

  • Jonathan Pexton - CFO

  • Q1 is always our lightest quarter. Q2 is better, but still light and then Q3 is a little bit better and Q4 is the big quarter, which is consistent across a lot of enterprise software plays. We have done a little bit of a restructuring in our sales organization this last quarter, which I think is meaningful. In the past, we split our global sales team into a land and expand function between enterprise and global. And now we've done that more broadly through our organization to have specific land teams and specific expand teams. And so I think that's definitely the right thing to do, but it's caused a little bit of friction in the sales team as we've done that. And so I think that we're probably a little bit more light than the normal seasonality you would see, but then we are confident in the long term, that's the right way to go.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of question-and-answer session. And I would like to turn the call back to Andy MacMillan for closing remarks.

  • Andrew MacMillan - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Thank you,[Hemi]. Really appreciate you. I'm seeing the call and doing such a nice job. Thank you, everybody, for the questions. Thank you for those of you that took the time to read through the book that we wrote and took an interest in the activities that we're doing. We really appreciate it. We think maybe now more than ever, it's a time for folks to build empathy in human understanding, and we're excited that we've got a product that's helping the market do that with their customers. So we appreciate your time and your involvement in the business and look forward to talking to you next quarter.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and thank you for your participation.