Ultralife Corp (ULBI) 2024 Q3 法說會逐字稿

Good day. And thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Ultralife Corp third quarter, 2024 results conference call at this time. All participants are in a listen-only mode after the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session to ask a question during the session. You will need to press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised to withdraw your question. Please press star 11 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Jody Burfening, managing director, alliance advisors, investor relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you didi and Good morning, everyone. And thank you for joining us this morning for Ultralife Corporation's Earnings conference call for the third quarter of 2024. With us on today's call are Michael Manna Ultralife Corp President and CEO and Philip Fain Ultralife Corp Chief Financial Officer.

The earnings press release was issued earlier this morning and if anyone has not yet received a copy, I invite you to visit the company's website, Ultralife Corp dotcom where you'll find the release under investor news in the investor relations section. Before turning the call over to management, I would like to remind everyone that some statements made during this conference call contain forward-looking statements based on current expectations. Actual results could differ materially from those projected as a result of various risks and uncertainties, potential risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ. Materially include uncertain global economic conditions, reductions in revenues from key customers, delays or reductions in us and foreign military spending, acceptance of our new products on a global basis, disruptions or delays in our supply of raw materials and components due to business conditions, global conflicts, weather or other factors not under our control. The company cautions investors not to place undue reliance on forward-looking statements which reflect the company's analysis only as of today's date. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update forward-looking statements to reflect subsequent events or circumstances. Further information on these factors and other factors that could affect ultra life's financial results included in the company's filings with the securities and exchange commission including the latest annual report on form 10-K.

In addition on today's call management will refer to certain nongaap financial measures that management considers to be useful and differ from GAAP. These nongaap measures should be considered supplemental to corresponding GAAP figures with that. I would now like to turn the call over to Michael . Good morning, Michael .

Thank you. Good morning. Welcome to our call on Ultralife Q3 operating results. Earlier today, we reported Q3 sales of 35.7 million and operating income of 0.5 million resulting in 2¢ of EPS.

Battery energy product sales increased 1.9% over the prior years. Q3 with communication system sales decreasing 58% to 3.2 million. As we continue to diversify that business.

Our top three initiatives for the year material cost deflation lien productivity and sales final improvement continued progress in Q3 with multiple lien events completed in both businesses and captured future material cost deflation in several important areas including lithium metal and printed circuit boards.

We are seeing sales funnel opportunity growth especially in thin cell and thyl chloride products and are focused on closing long term supply agreements with several customers in our target spaces. I will turn it over to Philip to talk through the detailed numbers.

Thank you, Michael and good morning, everyone.

Earlier this morning, we released our third quarter results for the quarter ended September 30th 2024.

We will be filing our form 10-Q with the SEC in the next few days and have updated our investor presentation in the investor relations section of our website which includes a summary and status of our transformational new products in a recap of our most recent acquisition. Electrochem consolidated revenues totaled 35.7 million compared to 39.5 million for the third quarter of 2023 revenues from our battery and energy products segment were 32.5 million compared to 31.9 million. Last year sales to our government defense customers increased 28.9% in oil and gas market sales increased 1.5%. These increases were for the most part offset by declines in medical battery and industrial market sales of 12.4% and 10.9% respectively.

The sales split between commercial and government defense for a battery business was 6,931 compared to 7,822 reported for the 2023 full year and the domestic to international split was 5,644 compared to 4,951 for the 2023 full year. Demonstrating the heightened domestic demand for us government defense products revenues from our communications systems. Segment of 3.2 million declined 58.2% from the 7.6 million. We reported last year primarily attributable to large shipments in the 2023 period of vehicle amplifier adapter orders to a global defense contractor for the US army and have integrated systems of amplifiers and radio vehicle mounts to a major international defense contractor for which shipments had been delayed from earlier periods due to supply chain constraints.

The year over year comparison was compounded by the timing of a follow on leader radio order expected in the third quarter of 2024. That was not received until October on a consolidated basis. The commercial to government defense sales split was 6,337 almost identical to the 6,436 reported for the 2023 full year.

Our total backlog exiting the third quarter was $78 million and remains diverse in nature across our commercial and government defense customer base.

The backlog decline from recent post COVID periods reflects the return of more normalized recurring order flow with our larger customers. With the resolution of significant supply chain disruptions and long lead times. Despite occasional blips, our consolidated gross profit was $8.7 million down 11.2% from the 2023 period. As a percentage of total revenues consolidated gross margin was 24.3%. A 50 basis point decline from the 24.8% reported for last year's third quarter.

Gross profit for our battery and energy products business was $8 million compared to $7.7 million last year. An increase of 4.1% gross margin was 24.7%. A 50 basis point increase from the 24.2% reported for last year's quarter.

The year over year increase was primarily due to higher factory volume in our Newark New York facility, partially offset by some inefficiencies resulting from delays in the receipt of a key raw material component.

Now rectified our lien initiatives continued as our internal lien expert has now expanded his reach into our operations beyond Newark for our communications systems segment, gross profit was $0.6 million compared to $2.0 million for the year earlier period. Gross margin was 20.1% compared to 27.0% last year. Primarily due to lower factory volume and unfavorable sales product mix. As compared to the year earlier period, operating expenses were $8.2 million. An increase of $0.5 million or 7% from the year earlier quarter.

The year over year increase is attributable to $0.3 million of legal and other fees directly related to the signing of the stock purchase agreement on September 27th to acquire Electrochem and an increase of 0.2 million or 12.4% in new product development spending as we aggressively pursue both government defense, major programs and large commercial opportunities.

Our spending on the addition of experienced sales resources to drive future growth was offset by lower G&A expenses.

As a percentage of revenues operating expenses were 22.9% compared to 19.3%. For last year's third quarter.

The sales decline and the increase in operating expenses resulted in an operating margin of 1.4% for the third quarter compared to 5.4% for the 2023 3rd quarter.

Other income reported below operating income was $0.2 million for the quarter compared to $0.4 million for the year earlier period, primarily resulting from the decrease in interest expense. With our 2024 reduction in debt.

Our tax provision for the second quarter for the third quarter was $0.1 million versus $0.4 million reported for the 2023 quarter. Computed on a GAAP basis at statutory rates.

Net income was $0.3 million or 2¢ per share on a GAAP fully diluted basis. This compares to net income of 1.3 million or 8¢ per share for the 2023 quarter adjusted EBITDA defined as EBITDA including non cash stock based compensation expense in expense or income that we do not consider reflective of our ongoing continuing operations was $1.9 million or 5.4% of sales compared to 3.5 million or 8.8% for the prior year quarter adjusted EBITA on a TTM basis is $17.5 million or 10.5% of sales.

Turning to our balance sheet. We ended the third quarter with working capital of $60.2 million in a current ratio of 3.3 compared to $66.5 million and 3.8 for 2023 year end. During the third quarter. We further reduced our debt by $4.1 million or 33.4% from $12.1 million at the end of the second quarter to $8.0 million. This represents a $17.2 million or 68.2% reduction over the last two quarters.

With delays in the receipt of certain purchase orders. Our inventory increased sequentially by two by $2.6 million or 6.3%.

Going forward. Our backlog, diversified end markets, the sheer volume of our growth initiatives and ongoing actions to improve our gross margins position us well to realize the leverage of our business model before turning it back to Mike. I just want to mention that we filed our form eight K on Wednesday for our completion of the electric acquisition on October 31st.

As this is considered a material acquisition for sec reporting purposes, we have 71 calendar days to file an amended form eight K which will include standalone audited financial statements for electrochem's 2023 year along with other required financial disclosures.

71 days equates to January 16th 2025. I will now turn it back to Mike.

Thank you, Philip for the detailed review of the Q3 results.

As I've mentioned on previous calls, we have three major 2024 priorities to accomplish first continued material deflation. In Q3, we favorably negotiated our lithium metal contracts in several of our printed circuit boards and expect to realize savings in the hundreds of thousands of dollars per year.

We continue to work on KB and pull systems with key suppliers to smooth material and cash flow and positively impact inventory turns which was hampered in Q3 with customer push outs and inventory build for a large order shipping partially in Q4 and the remainder next year.

Second lien productivity, we continue to roost waste and inefficiencies in all of our processes throughout the business. We completed high value lien events in our Newark, Virginia Beach and Houston facilities in Q3 with an expected cost improvements of 2 to 3% in each area. These target areas produce items. We ship at a regular cadence and we expect to see benefits as we go into Q4 and next year.

Lastly, sales funnel improvement. We're seeing sales funnel growth especially in thin cells and thionyl chloride and are currently reviewing how we best deploy our business development resources to align sales assets to the target markets of medical, government defense and oil and gas, especially with the electrochem acquisition. Now completed, I expect there will be some realignment of the team in Q4 to better focus and drive growth.

Next, I will give updates on the organic growth projects and new product development under way for the businesses which are key to future sales and market expansion on our communication systems. Business commu continues to ship el 8,000 server cases to several customers. We have several alternate systems in the development pipeline to better service. A broader range of customer applications including a smaller three U size variant versus the current five U size variant.

We're in validation testing with the earlier mentioned DC power supply to support vehicular remote use of the el 8,000 case products. Expecting that to be production ready and available for sale next year.

The MRC 2104 radio power supply supporting airborne communications platforms transition to production in Q3 and the initial low rate, initial production quantity was delivered to our customer. We anticipate this project to ramp over the next few years with our prime partner who is supplying the system radios.

Lastly, I'm happy to say we've launched a new amplification product target to be radio agnostic, which we believe is the smallest lightest most power efficient 20 watt man portable amplifier in the marketplace which are all key benefits to our government and defense customers. This product is sampling now to partners and expected to be available for production orders by the end of the year.

Meanwhile, we are advancing our next generation high performance amplifier engine to be used across all advanced frequency hopping radio platforms. This amplifier will add to our portfolio of high efficiency amplification products. With the first variant available in 2025 on the battery and energy side of the business. We're excited about the opportunity funnel growth across the variety of new and existing products and expect to see continued incremental orders this year.

As previously mentioned, we have initial production equipment in place for our thin cell to support customers in the medical wearable space and several applications and item tracking. The since the thin cell sales funnel continues to strengthen with multiple projects. Now in the qualification phase, primarily in the medical and tracking application space with several new large volume opportunities added to the sales funnel. In Q3, the 123 A product line supporting IOT and illumination markets has seen opportunity funnel growth in medical battery pack assemblies, both domestic and international customers. We are in negotiation to supply several battery plaques servicing international medical customers and expect to start pack development this year for a 2025 production launch.

Our improved Thionyl chloride product line targeting monitoring and telemetry applications continues qualification and field testing with several customers. We have successfully completed the year plus test cycle with a major metering company for our flagship 19 FRD cell and are in discussions now for initial production and deliveries. In 2025 we continue to advance the commercial version of the conformal wearable battery and continue validation and production readiness activities. We've quoted multiple international production opportunities in Q3 and expect award decisions. In 2025 we expect a small low rate initial production quantity to ship in Q4 to an international customer for evaluation and test sales funnel and opportunity. Pipeline growth in both businesses continues to be a key for 2024 and into 2025. And I expect with the added focus and resources, we will continue to expand our aperture and opportunity wins. We continue our gross margin initiatives and expect to see continued steady improvement as our CapEx investments lien projects and material efforts enter the production lines.

Lastly, I would like to welcome the electric chem business, a manufacturer of high temp high reliability Non rechargeable lithium cells and ethyl and sulfur chemistries with revenue of approximately $34 million over the trailing 12 months to the Ultralife portfolio.

Having closed this acquisition October 31st. We see this as a synergistic business with little customer and product overlap, vertical integration opportunities with our swe and excel business producing products for similar high reliability niche markets and position for future growth.

We now look forward to working closely with Christine Carroll, President of Electrochem and her experience team to jointly implement our integration playbook together. We'll advance our strategy to realize the operating leverage of our business model through scale and manufacturing cost efficiencies while creating highly attractive opportunities drive revenue growth.

We expect the main integration activities to complete in the first half of 2025.

Thanks everyone that concludes the prepared remarks for today. I will go back to the operator for questions.

Thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced to withdraw your question. Please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster and our first question comes from Josh Sullivan of the benchmark company. Your line is open.

Hey, good morning.

Just as far as within the battery and energy product segment. You know, if you were to bucket, you know how much of the headwinds you're talking about were due to the supply chain versus, you know, the order delays. You know, how would you frame that?

I would frame that, Josh Sullivan, almost 5,050 I would say, and you know, in, in this day and age, you don't expect things to happen. You think that everything after post COVID and after all the, the bumps in the road and all that and the supply chain that things are ironed out. But certainly I'll just say stuff does happen and it hit us during this quarter, but it, it's now rectified. And also we're, we're in an interesting position. Because when you look at our customers, we're part of their large supply chain. We're one component of many in the supply chain and we may be all set and ready and willing to go with, ready to ship our products and recognize the revenue.

But there may be a delay in in other components that they're experiencing or something going on with their customer. So at the end of the day, Josh, it's, it's, it's, it's this, we try to control everything that we can control, we try to significantly influence everything we can't control, but then again, there's certain things that happen that, that, that you just can't control, but that's why our inventory has gone up. But I would say to answer your question, it's probably, it's probably in the 5,050 range.

Got it. And, and as far as the, the delays, was it, you know, related to any one industry or was it kind of broad based?

It was, it was pretty broad based. I mean, we, we had some medical customers push out. You saw that was a little soft this quarter on the, on the, on the battery side of the business, on the communication system side of the business, there were a handful of orders we expected to have in Q3 that we had material to provide and actually service, which is another reason our inventory kind of went up. But then the orders just didn't come in time to actually service them and then we, you know, we had a, you know, I'm not going to throw a whole bunch on the Heleen thing, but we had like labels on a Fedex truck in Heleen that we couldn't get and we couldn't ship. I mean, it was like little things like that, which, you know, I'm not going to excuse it, that's going to change the whole outlook of the quarter. But, you know, it's those little things that you pull your hair out and that, you know, might have, you know, added a cent, that you know, you just, you can't do and it's like frustrating obviously.

And I think it's important to say we, we have not lost any orders. Yeah.

We don't lose orders. Typically. It's just can we get them out the door based on their timing and our timing.

Got it, got it. And then as far as the thin sell opportunity, you know, where are your, you know, your medical customers as far as the approval timeline, do you think or what can you share there? And then, you know, the the customers you mentioned added to the funnel, you know, what, what products might those be?

Well, you know, on the, on the thin cell side, it's such an exciting area right now because there's so many opportunities coming at us and, you know, some of them are just, you know, shake your head volumes. But, you know, the, the one, the first opportunity we've been talking about for years is still tied up in a whole qualification and software and A I loop trying to really make sure that the back end part of the system that, you know, we're part of and supporting is actually functioning properly.

And, you know, it's a, it's a pretty complex puzzle that our customer is trying to work through and get qualified and make sure they're checking all their boxes. But beyond that, there's a, there's a, there's a bunch of different opportunities coming at us and, you know, electronic shelf labeling, some RF ID tracking and we've had a couple really large, you know, medical wearable opportunities come at us that probably are still a couple of years out. But the sheer volumes potentially are pretty exciting.

Got it. And then, and then just on the el 8,000 direct current vehicle opportunity, how big of an opportunity do you think that is?

Well, you know, we've, we've come at this a couple of different ways and, you know, you've got your commercial piece, which, you know, if you're, there's definitely a lot of rugged applications out there just in the commercial space, which, you know, for us we think is in that 5 to $10 million type of, of area as far as opportunity there just in, you know, just that piece. And then on the military side, you know, we're looking at probably 20 to $30 million. So, you know, we're in that 10 to $50 million type of, you know, available marketplace.

I will say this last quarter, we had some delays, nothing in that in, you know, in our control with, you know, server blades actually being available to us in time. So, you know, I think the market's there, it's pretty strong. I think it's just starting, I mean, we're kind of on that tipping point where A I is, is really starting to, to really go and then the, the DC power supply that we're in validation with, right. Now is really the enabler to get it on the vehicles and forward operating bases where they have DC only power typically.

So as soon as that pops through, you know, I think that opens up a whole another channel for that product line.

And it's nice to know that we're the only authorized supplier for the el 8,000 cases.

And, and as we expand, you know, expand into a couple different case sizes for different uses. I expect us to have a pretty rounded out portfolio of offerings there that could be, you know, it's only going to help to the aperture of the opportunity, right?

Got it. That's great. And then just any any early customer indication on electrochem and you know, what, what, what you know, the capabilities might be. Is it driving any, any early interest?

Well, we've definitely had a lot of customer, congratulations and a and a lot of excitement around the acquisition internally and externally. You know, you know, they're another lithium metal primary battery company that, you know, has kind of been living in a, you know, I'm not going to say displaced there parent, but you know, they've, they've been kind of orphaned in that business and, you know, they didn't really have some of the synergies that we can bring them worldwide, not only in the manufacturing efficiency side and supply chain side. But you know, as you start looking at the whole picture of how do you sell product in our space, it's, you know, sales packs and then all the inlier devices around it. And, you know, they, they've been pretty much a cell provider with a little bit of pack business and we really think they're going to, you know, really add to our portfolio because we can add a lot of, I think packed business and then we have some integration plays. I mean, we are, we are also buying a small quantity of, of their, their product for our use. We think we have a pretty good opportunity to shift the much larger quantity of our purchases internally to them. So there's a, there's a good vertical integration synergy. You know, and as as we, you know, collaborate, I'm sure we're going to find a lot more things that we'll get pretty excited about. I hope.

Perfect. Thanks for the time.

All right. Thank you.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from John Deer of Pinnacle. Your line is open.

Good morning. Just a couple of quick questions you mentioned. I think an order that you expected to ship in third quarter that was pushed out the shipping in the fourth quarter. Could you give us an idea of how large that order was?

Yeah, yeah, for the for the com systems business that was the total order was, was just under $2.5 million. So it's, it was sizable and that, that's just, that's just one of the items. And, you know, there's always a shuffling between quarters and sometimes you gain, sometimes you lose on, on a specific quarter. That's why the way Mike and I look at this business is we look at it over the longer term. We look, we look at it because of all the different moving pieces and realizing that we are one of many components that go into the end product and a lot of things can happen. We look at things over over a 12 month basis and sometimes even even a bit longer.

Okay, great. That, that's helpful. On the Electrocom acquisition, were there other bidders for that property?

There? There were or at least we've been told there were. And you know, we do know that our bid was not the highest but we could execute the transaction in the time line that it wanted to be done. And there was a lot more synergies with us versus the other business is what we've heard.

Okay. So it was an auction process. You're saying.

It didn't go to auction, it went to a targeted, targeted part, targeted participants before it may have gone to auction if it was decided.

But you never reached the auction process.

It never reached the auction process, correct?

Okay. Fair enough. And on the disclosure, the coming disclosure of Electrocom, I think by January 16th, that'll include audited financial statements for 2023 and will it include a year-to-date perhaps through September of 2024? Even if it's unaudited?

No. Well, what's, what's going to happen is you're, you're absolutely correct in the, in, in, in the first part, the first part will be audited financial statements. Now being a very, very small component of integer holdings corporation, it was never audited. It was fell below materiality level. So we certainly have our work cut out and not, not an expensive proposition to do the carve out and to get the audit done and all that stuff. And it's interesting because I know what you're looking for with regard to your next question. That that'll be, that'll happen as we as, as, as, as we complete our future filings. But in in integer's report, let's see on October 30th, they indicated that expected sales in their model was 30 I believe $36 million with EBITA of $5 million. So that, that, that was Integer's disclosure on this. And you know, we of course, wait until we've done a lot of work and due diligence. We wait until the audit is a key part because the audit for us is also an enabler with the opening balance sheet as well.

Okay. So will we see standalone results for 2024 for electrochem?

Well, at some point, you, you certainly will. Yes.

Okay. As a carve out later.

Oh, okay. That, that, that, that would be very helpful to see.

There's 23 as well.

It, it's we, we have to show what our results would have looked like in, in future filings if we, let's see if we acquired of electric came earlier.

Okay. The more disclosure the better I think. So. It sounds like you're on the.

Right.

Track.

Oh, yeah. Well, you know, we're totally transparent. We're happy and we will be disclosing as is the information. Absolutely. We're very, very proud of the work that was done going into this acquisition.

Okay, great. Sounds good. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank.

You.

And our next question comes from Stefano Bola Vigils Investor.

Good morning gentlemen and congratulations for the progress is in the product pipeline and acquisition.

And the first one is about the backlog reduction end of the quarter. So this reduction is mostly due to a post COVID normalization rather than the timing of expected orders, you said?

Yeah, we, we think, I mean, if you look at our back, we are in our investor presentation, we have a series of backlogs per year going back even before COVID. And you know, we've been historically, you know, in that 40 to 40 to $50 million range with backlog and then, you know, over the last couple of years, it's been much higher due to the COVID kind of bump. The other, you know, the other slight piece in going from Q3 to Q4 is we do have some, what I will say yearly P OS that start filling in towards the end of the year as they deplete off the volume throughout the year. So we do expect to see some additional P OS in Q4 for next year's volume from them, from those particular customers.

And you know, I'll just say this, the information that we've reported on page 15 in our investor presentation. It's as of a single day. So just as an example, a week later after a week into the into Q4, it went up from $78 million to $83 million. So, it depends, it depends on we look, you're looking at it because of, of a more continual flow of P OS.

Okay. Thanks. I have a second one on electro acquisition. So you have already given some characteristics now in the call. But what is the one thing about the company that made you say this is the one.

Well, for us, it's, it's a key piece of the, one of the gaps we identified in our portfolio with the final chloride chemistry. And you know, we've been looking at, you know, final for the last 10 years and we've invested pretty heavily in what I will call the smaller cell, let lower temperature cells over the past 3 to 4 years to really target the metering applications and some of the telemetry RF ID type of products. And we looked at the high temp high reliability, large cells, like double D's double CS as a 5-to-10-year development cycle and adoption for the marketplace.

So, it really became a make versus buy and for us to make it, you know, it'd be, it'd be a 10-year enterprise. So it was really who could we buy that, you know, has the premier product in the world in this chemistry. And you know, you look at the electric business dating back to 1,979. You know, they're, it, I mean, they're, they're, they're the top, top dog. So that's what we wanted.

Great.

Then. Thanks a lot.

Thank you.

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I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn it back to Mike Manna for closing remarks.

Thanks everyone for listening to today's call. We look forward to you during the 2024 Q4 conference call and earlier in December. For those of you that may be attending the benchmark event. We'll see you then.

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