Ultra Clean Holdings Inc (UCTT) 2015 Q3 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Welcome to the Ultra Clean Holdings Q3 2015 earnings conference call. My name is Ashley and I will be your operator for today's call. (Operator Instructions). Please note that this conference is being recorded.

  • I will now turn the call over to Sheri Brumm, Vice President of Finance. Sheri, you may begin.

  • Sheri Brumm - VP Finance

  • Thank you. Welcome to our third-quarter financial results conference call. Presenting today are Jim Scholhamer, Ultra Clean's Chief Executive Officer, and Casey Eichler, Ultra Clean's President and Chief Financial Officer. Casey will begin by discussing the financial results for our third quarter and Jim will remark -- will follow with some remarks about the business.

  • A few moments ago, we issued a press release reporting financial results for the third quarter ended September 25, 2015. The press release can be accessed from the Investor Relations section of Ultra Clean's website along with the information for the tape delay and replay of the live webcast at uct.com. Together with our recently issued press release, this conference call enables the Company to comply with the SEC regulations for fair disclosure. Therefore, investors should accept the contents of this call as the Company's official guidance for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015. Investors should note that only the CEO and CFO are authorized to provide Company guidance. If at any time after this call we communicate any material changes in guidance, it is our intent that such updates will be done officially via public forum such as press release or a publicly announced conference call.

  • The matters that we discuss today include forward-looking statements as defined in the US Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 related to matters including our future financial performance, new product orders and shipments, and industry growth. Investors are cautioned that forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements. Some of those risks and uncertainties are detailed in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The Company disclaims any obligation to publicly update or revise any such forward-looking statements or to reflect events or circumstances that occur after this call.

  • Now Casey will discuss the third-quarter results.

  • Casey Eichler - President, CFO

  • Thank you Sheri. Our third-quarter results reflect the initial effects of the industry-wide semiconductor slowdown. Revenue for the third quarter was $122.8 million, an increase of 4.5% from the prior quarter and an increase of 4.9% when compared to the same period a year ago. Semiconductor revenue for the third quarter was $113 million, an increase of 2.3% from the prior quarter, and non-semiconductor revenue was $9.8 million compared to $7.2 million in the second quarter.

  • We remain focused primarily on the semiconductor market while continuing to pursue opportunities in a variety of other markets. Due in part to the acquisition of Miconex, revenue outside the US grew to 36% compared with 33% last quarter. We had two 10% customers in the quarter.

  • Gross margin was 15.4% for the third quarter compared to 16% in the second quarter due to shifts in product mix and still within our targeted business model of 15% to 18%. Excluding one-time charges and amortization of intangibles, third-quarter operating expenses were $13.9 million, or 11.3%. This includes the addition of expenses associated with the Miconex acquisition and compares to $14 million, or 11.9%, in the second quarter.

  • We are in the process of optimizing facilities in several regions and managing our overall cost structure while also investing in new technologies in Southeast Asia. In the fourth quarter, we anticipate a slight increase in operating expenses related to professional services fees around the audit process and other related costs associated with closing out the fiscal year.

  • Operating income was $3.1 million, or 2.5%, in the third quarter compared to $3.4 million, or 2.9%, in the second quarter. Excluding amortization of intangibles and one-time charges, operating income was $5.1 million, or 4.1%, in the third quarter compared to $4.8 million, or 4.1%, in the second quarter.

  • Interest expense for the quarter was $554,000, roughly flat compared to the second quarter. As expected, taxes were approximately 28% for the third quarter, similar to what we anticipate for the fourth quarter. We continue to explore ways to balance our model from a global perspective.

  • Third-quarter net income was $1.7 million or $0.05 per share. Excluding amortization expense and other one-time charges, third-quarter net income was $3.1 million, or $0.10 per share, compared to $3.2 million, or $0.10 per share in the second quarter. Diluted shares outstanding were 32.2 million for the quarter, an increase of 378,000 due primarily to acquisition of Miconex. Non-cash charges for the third quarter were $1.1 million related to stock compensation, $1.6 million related to depreciation, and $1.6 million related to amortization of intangibles. As part of our ongoing process, we will be performing a review of goodwill in intangibles during the fourth quarter for all previous acquisitions.

  • Turning to the balance sheet, cash on hand was $59.8 million, a decrease of $16.8 million from the prior quarter. This was primarily the result of the acquisition of Miconex. We anticipate an increase in net cash for the fourth quarter.

  • Accounts Receivable was $57.5 million, flat with the second quarter. Days sales outstanding decreased to 42 days from 44 days at the end of the second quarter. Accounts payable of $47.5 million increased approximately $1 million over the prior quarter. Days payable outstanding at the end of the third quarter decreased to 41 days from 42 days in the second quarter.

  • Net inventory was $75.6 million, an increase of $11 million over the prior quarter. The majority of increase in inventory was a result of the acquisition of Miconex and the shipments expected in the fourth quarter from our Singapore facility due to new product wins. We expect lower inventory levels during the fourth quarter of 2015.

  • Now let me shift our guidance. The industry-wide slowdown in semiconductor equipment that began in the latter half of the third quarter is expected to continue through the fourth quarter. We are anticipating fourth-quarter revenues to be between $98 million and $103 million. While we are taking the necessary steps to reduce our overall cost structure and managing our expenses, we expect non-GAAP loss per share to be in the range of $0.01 to $0.04, excluding amortization charges. As noted earlier, the effective tax rate for the quarter is expected to be 28%.

  • With that, I will turn it over to Jim to update you on the third-quarter operational highlights and a recap of our growth strategy. Jim?

  • Jim Scholhamer - CEO

  • Thanks Casey. Even as the industry heads into a slowdown, our focus is on the long-term opportunities for UCT. In the quarter we undertook a strategic initiative that should position us to outpace the semiconductor capital equipment market over the long term. As consolidation in the industry continues, the flexibility of our financial model is enabling us to identify and pursue multiple growth opportunities. With the completion of our second accretive acquisition in less than a year, we are poised to more quickly enter adjacent semiconductor markets, broaden our offerings, and better serve our customers by offering more leading-edge comprehensive solutions.

  • As the semiconductor market begins to come off its recent record highs, we believe investment in 2016 for leading-edge equipment will moderate as the industry awaits the ramp of 3D NAND, FinFET, and 10 nanometer technologies. Similar to last year or two, advanced technologies are requiring a significant amount of investment in deposition and removal where our primary customers are quite strong. Companies exposed to these areas have the potential to outpace the overall market when CapEx investment resumes. With the industry fundamentals intact and multiple drivers ahead, we expect the industry pause to be relatively short-lived.

  • With an eye towards identifying opportunities in cutting-edge technologies that have the best potential to add value to UCT in the long run, we are also exploring ways to integrate and utilize new capabilities. Already this year, we have added to our growing portfolio with the acquisition of Marchi and Miconex. Through additions such as these, we are creating early entry points with customers where we can partner with them to provide complete solutions to solve their challenges and remain an important resource throughout their product lifecycle.

  • Through our acquisition of Marchi, we are adding key technological capabilities around our core business. As the leading manufacturer of custom thermal control products for the semiconductor industry, Marchi adds custom heated fab capabilities around chamber gas delivery and exhaust systems. These technologies are allowing us to become involved earlier in our customers' engineering and design processes and offer added value by providing complete solutions for new chemistries and deposition removal processes. This accretive acquisition is opening up high-value new markets for us with the potential to increase revenue and profitability levels in the future.

  • Our recent acquisition of Miconex expands UCT's manufacturing to include complex modules for the semiconductor industry's wet chemistry process. Through Miconex, we can address these areas within deposition, clean, and removal markets and deliver total state of the art complex modules. This accretive acquisition is adding new and differentiated capabilities to UCT, giving us access to markets where we previously did not have a footprint.

  • Keeping an eye on technological advances that may play a role in the semiconductor manufacturing space over the long term, we have made some early investments in 3D printing. We recently opened a 3D printing facility in Singapore that can quickly produce parts as customer needs require.

  • In closing, we believe that the semiconductor end markets and fundamentals are intact and that the next wave of investments of 3D NAND, FinFET, and 10 nanometer technologies will drive spending in 2016. Consistent with our growth strategy, we plan to continue looking at a variety of ways to expand our capabilities in semiconductor manufacturing, capturing new business, better serve our partners and customers for the long term. We are constantly looking at ways to improve operating efficiencies in our overall cost structure to position us to more profitably capitalize on the upturn when the cycle resumes.

  • With that, operator, I would like to open the call for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). Christian Schwab, Craig-Hallum Capital.

  • Christian Schwab - Analyst

  • Guys, as you guys look at when the industry conditions are improved, I know you said that you expect maybe that it will improve here in the -- that this slowdown will be short-lived. Earlier, another one of your peers talked about the environment being murky and maybe being so for two or three quarters. I'm wondering what dialogue you have been having with your two leading customers that makes you feel good that things may pick up as soon as the March quarter on a sequential basis?

  • Jim Scholhamer - CEO

  • Yes. Hello Christian, thank you for the question. I think it's difficult for us to see out more than two quarters. But I think both our customers and ourselves, we see this as a short-term issue and we see that even to end up even with last year that there has to be some ramp coming up, at least some time in the next year.

  • Christian Schwab - Analyst

  • So as you guys look to next year with Lam kind of talking about wafer front end equipment being flat to slightly down on a year-over-year basis, are you guys in a position to outperform that with a new market share situation, or would you anticipate that you would follow along on that trajectory next year?

  • Jim Scholhamer - CEO

  • Yes, Christian. I think -- yes. We have picked up several wins along the way this year that we think in the next upturn, as we head into next upturn will lead to a higher piece for us whenever that turn comes.

  • Christian Schwab - Analyst

  • Okay. Great. No other questions. Thanks.

  • Operator

  • Edwin Mok, Needham.

  • Edwin Mok - Analyst

  • So first housekeeping. Miconex did it contribute to revenue this quarter? And if it did, did your -- excluding Miconex, did your revenue grow or decline in the first quarter -- in the third quarter?

  • Casey Eichler - President, CFO

  • Yes, so basically they did contribute revenue, and more importantly, they contributed it to be accretive this quarter, which is what we had talked about when we announced the acquisition. Roughly, without Miconex, I would say we were flattish during the year, but they did contribute what I would expect it to, and that business looks very good for us. Now, obviously, they are subject to the same market conditions that we are, but we are very pleased right now.

  • Edwin Mok - Analyst

  • I see. I think when you guys announced the acquisition, they had $40 million of lost 12-month revenue. Given the industry slowdown, but based on the design activity that they have, do you think Miconex itself can get to the same revenue? Or are they subject to the same industry slowdown that we expect for the industry basically?

  • Casey Eichler - President, CFO

  • Yes. Our largest customers are they are largest customers as well, so they are going to be impacted by that. I do think they've got some interesting design wins that they've got lined up for next year that will help them outpace the market, whatever that is next year. But they're going to be impacted the same way we are by those large customers.

  • Edwin Mok - Analyst

  • I see, great. And then since you guys have done two acquisitions so far this year or the last few quarters already and since you are integrating that, with those done and Marchi has been on the Company for a while, maybe is there way you can update us on a longer-term view to how you think about revenue synergy potentially coming from these acquisitions? When do you expect to see some of that eventually start to kick in into your model?

  • Casey Eichler - President, CFO

  • Sure. What happens when we get the capabilities broadly across maybe a product line or a company is we cannot only participate in the traditional markets we participated in, but we can also do more complete assembly or more complete sub-assemblies, and that gives us an opportunity to get in early, for example in the Marchi situation, with engineers in the design process and not only take advantage of the heater opportunities, which is their core business, but also some of the other opportunities that we have in the gas delivery and in some of the other areas. So I think that the synergy of having a complete solution or a more complete solution, if you will, does bring us in more broadly across customers and create some synergies across the organization to get us involved more broadly.

  • Jim Scholhamer - CEO

  • Yes. And Edwin, if I may add, that process tends to take a longer time because it's lower in R&D cycle. So you tend to see the results a little bit later on beyond the immediate impact.

  • Edwin Mok - Analyst

  • I see. So this is not like one quarter kind of you start to see that. It's more like a year or plus time horizon before we start to see the benefit of that? Is that a good way to think about it?

  • Casey Eichler - President, CFO

  • Yes. Typically, when you get in early at the R&D cycle, our customers, their R&D cycle, it takes quite a long time before that becomes -- impacts revenue.

  • Edwin Mok - Analyst

  • Okay, that's fair. And then I think you guys talk about the OpEx and now that you own this business, how do you think about OpEx? I think Casey talked about OpEx being up in the coming quarter, more on professional service costs, right? But any way you can kind of give us a way to think about OpEx? Is that $13.9 million the blended average run rate, or do you see moving to further improve that?

  • Casey Eichler - President, CFO

  • Yes, I think there are initiatives that we've had that we've talked to over the last couple of quarters to reduce OpEx, some consolidation as it was referenced in our discussion today, and also some other opportunities that we get obviously as you more tightly integrate some of the acquisitions. So I think there are opportunities there.

  • We are also, as we mentioned earlier, investing in some other things like the 3D printing and the prototyping and some of those. So we're trying to balance our -- take a longer-term look and balance our short-term desire to keep costs down with the opportunities that we see out in front of us.

  • The other thing, just as a reminder, we do have some costs in Q4. Q1 also continues to be heavy because we have the -- not only the SEC filing and the proxy and all of that type of thing going on, but we have the finishing of the K. Payroll taxes kick back in in Q1 and that always adds. So Q1 tends to be the one that has a little bit of a false up and then we tend to back down a little bit, but Q4 starts to ramp that way.

  • Edwin Mok - Analyst

  • Okay, great. One last question, and then I will go way. Just to clarify your commentary about the downturn being short-lived, to the extent that the business level will normalize, do you anticipate the March quarter to be cost stable at this level? Above current level? Just directionally, do you have any kind of view you can share with us?

  • Jim Scholhamer - CEO

  • Yes, Edwin as you know, we don't try to prognosticate out more than one quarter, but we believe the fundamentals are all there for an upturn at some point in the next year.

  • Edwin Mok - Analyst

  • Okay, that's fair. Thanks. That's all I have. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Dick Ryan, Dougherty.

  • Dick Ryan - Analyst

  • Casey, did you -- I may have missed it. Did you have some operating costs or non-cash costs on restructuring in the quarter? I'm not sure what I (multiple speakers)

  • Casey Eichler - President, CFO

  • Yes, we've gone through the process of doing some restructuring obviously to try to get our OpEx down, but we didn't have any specific write-offs or specific called out charges related to that. It's just a matter of streamlining and making things more efficient.

  • Dick Ryan - Analyst

  • Okay. In Q4, might there be some as you --

  • Casey Eichler - President, CFO

  • I don't anticipate any one-time charges related to that activity right now. Obviously, as we get more and more into it, there could be something that comes up. But really what we're trying to do is get our capacity in line with our customers not only across the organization but in particular sites as they continue to move around their operations, as you know.

  • Dick Ryan - Analyst

  • Sure. Looking outside of semi, I know you had it business development unit there. What's currently going on, and maybe it's tied to 3D printing, but is there a pipeline developing outside of semi?

  • Casey Eichler - President, CFO

  • Yes. There is a pipeline developing outside of semi. The 3D printing, as I think Jim has commented in the past, that's really something that really looks beyond 2016 to really trying take a bit of a pioneer approach to an interesting technology that we think is going to be important to it, but it's not something that we were betting on 2015 to start to really realize a lot of benefit in 2016. So I would try to set the perspective on that.

  • Having said that, there are a lot of other opportunities that we're looking at. You know that when you are starting in a different vertical market from scratch, it takes more time. And so I think some of that will start to get hardest in next year, and if it does, we'll start call that out. But really the focus continues to be into the first half of 2016 for sure, all about the semi and the semi market and some of the opportunities that we can exploit because of these acquisitions this year.

  • Dick Ryan - Analyst

  • Okay. And your manufacturing contribution outside of the US, Asia, to help the margin profile, looking out a couple of years, where can that go? What percent of manufacturing ultimately comes from Asia?

  • Casey Eichler - President, CFO

  • I would say, outside of the US, let's put Miconex in there as well, or anything else we would do in Europe, that could get to a 50-50 balance out a few years, a couple of years.

  • Dick Ryan - Analyst

  • Okay. Great. Thank you.

  • Casey Eichler - President, CFO

  • I should say, as a footnote to that, it's really driven by our customers. Obviously, we are responding to their needs.

  • Dick Ryan - Analyst

  • Yes, yes. Okay. Thanks Casey.

  • Operator

  • Patrick Ho, Stifel.

  • Patrick Ho - Analyst

  • Casey, maybe specifically for you, you mentioned in some of your comments about the balancing act, particularly for OpEx and cost management during these times. Can you just give a little color or maybe a little clarity, especially in today, for you, given that you've made two acquisitions this year, that you try to integrate them? You've been through many of these cycles. What's the balancing act of I guess the integration part along with managing through the semiconductor cycles that we've seen in the past?

  • Casey Eichler - President, CFO

  • Yes, I mean it's really kind of two separate things, as you called out. Whenever you have acquisitions, you're trying to integrate things very effectively but not take away from the benefit of what you're getting. Sometimes we learn things from the company we acquire; sometimes they learn things from us. And so you jointly partner together to try to work those things down. There is the easy -- the back office is the first thing, as you know, the human resources, the finance functions, some of the supply chain management, etc., managing the vendors. That's the first wave.

  • Then the second wave gets a little deeper about how do you think about engineering? How do you think about some of the other corporate functions that lay across an organization?

  • When you look at the balancing act of sites, as you know better than anybody, Patrick, the first move was from the Silicon Valley outside to other locations in the US. Then there was kind of a move to more China-based because of the low-cost region capabilities. Now, as you know, a lot of the customers are moving more toward southeast Asia, be it Singapore and Malaysia, Indonesia, etc. So you're trying to balance all that and flex and flow with your customers and as you do that, you have to be careful that when you are turning something on, you're turning something off so that your capacity balance stays reasonable but yet you can take advantage of opportunities in the future. So that's a little bit more what I'm talking about.

  • Patrick Ho - Analyst

  • Great. That's really helpful. And maybe as a follow-up question, given your strong presence on the semiconductor side, particularly in the areas of etch and deposition where we are seeing higher capital intensity, if we go to the other side on the non-semi side of things, in the past, that's provided a little bit of support or kind of a buffer whenever we've gone through the semi down cycles. Given where it is today, can you kind of give us an update on I guess evaluation work, new market entry opportunities, or even growing opportunities that you have today that will help grow that segment of the business, say, sometime later in 2016 and into 2017, that will once again provide a little bit of a buffer during the semi down cycles?

  • Casey Eichler - President, CFO

  • Yes, sure. You are absolutely right. Historically, some of the customers like FEI and Intuitive Surgical and some of the others have been somewhat -- are buffered like -- for our customers, they have refurb spares and things like that that's kind of a steady Eddie business for them. We don't really have much of that, so it has been helpful.

  • As we look forward, we've as I mentioned, tried to get into a few of the different markets. We've talked about the verticals being consumer, some of the energy and some of the other industrials. We've got some interesting things going on, so I don't want to downplay the fact that we don't have some interesting things going on, but I also want to keep people focused that, to your point, developing those other vertical markets takes time.

  • We've added some great marketing capability and expertise within our company over the last quarter, and that's already starting to pay off some dividends for us, really getting us a more mature look at some of these other markets, including semi. And so that individual is going to build out that team and I'm very confident in what she's doing today and what we're going to do in the future off of that. But it does take time. You don't just add water and stir it and you've got it. So that's why I'm trying to be cautious, as you know, because I don't want people to get too overly focused on that today when we have so much grid opportunity in semi, but I don't want people to think that we've forgotten it.

  • Patrick Ho - Analyst

  • Right. Thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). Christian Schwab, Craig-Hallum Capital.

  • Christian Schwab - Analyst

  • I'm just trying to figure out the math by customer here. You guys are confident you are not losing any share?

  • Jim Scholhamer - CEO

  • Yes.

  • Christian Schwab - Analyst

  • Okay. Do you think that perhaps we're going through an inventory correction at one or two of your leading customers on a certain subsegment of equipment? I'm just trying to get to a 20% reduction on sequential base sales.

  • Jim Scholhamer - CEO

  • Yes, I think if you look at the shipment base from our customers, Christian, we are pretty much in line with that, and that's more along the lines of what we do. We are a turns business. There's a lot of revenue that they can achieve through -- they have a 30% spares and service business. They have revenue that turns upon FAT, which is final acceptance test, which could take two or three quarters after they ship the tool, etc., etc.

  • There are so many -- as we've cautioned many times before, there are so many -- we are kind of a spring between us and our customers, and there's so many variables between that, but if you look at their shipment base of our main customers, it's around -- it's pretty typical to where we are right now, which more closely resembles what we're doing.

  • Christian Schwab - Analyst

  • I will double-check my math. So we haven't lost money since 2009 I think. Are we going to look at the OpEx structure with a little bit more discipline, or this is just going to be the new norm if we go through --

  • Casey Eichler - President, CFO

  • No, no.

  • Jim Scholhamer - CEO

  • Christian, we're looking at short-term cost reduction opportunities as well as long-term, continuing to look at consolidation, but as well as we are investing in new areas where we think we could hit the upturn with a higher level that we have hit the upturns in the past. And so we can be ready to really take advantage of the next upturn and hit new revenues that we've not been able to achieve before as we are bringing in new modules, new share, new customers, etc. This all takes a little bit of investment, but at the end of the day, downturns -- down the road, this will mean that there will be a higher peak in the future as well. So we're trying to balance the short-term cost structure as well as the long-term cost structure as well as investing in things that we think will cause us to increase our revenue over the long term.

  • Christian Schwab - Analyst

  • Okay, that's great. Thank you guys.

  • Operator

  • Steve Baughman, Divisar Capital.

  • Steve Baughman - Analyst

  • I wonder if you can just talk a little bit about capital allocation and how you guys think about it. Obviously, I understand the strategy of wanting to build out the functionality and capabilities of the organization. But at some -- well, I guess the question is is there a price for UCT common stock at which you guys say, instead of buying acquisitions or instead of doing acquisitions, we would rather buy back our own stock? You guys have spent $60 million over the last year post markets -- the market cap of the Company, of the entire Company, is barely more than two times that.

  • Casey Eichler - President, CFO

  • Yes, Steve. Clearly, the math is not lost on me and I think it's a good point at these levels. It's something that when we get to (technical difficulty) like this, we talk about it obviously at a board level as well as an executive level. We try to look at the allocation and use of cash, what we think the opportunity is in front of us and what the best way to get return for investors is. So I don't think that -- typically, as you know and you and I discussed this, it's not a (technical difficulty) thought we've seen a lot of opportunity and I think we used the money wisely with things like Marchi and Miconex. Having said that, there is a point to what you're bringing up, should you want to re-address that, and I think that that is a very legitimate question that will be re-addressed.

  • Steve Baughman - Analyst

  • Okay, great. Thanks for taking the question guys.

  • Operator

  • We have no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to management for further remarks.

  • Jim Scholhamer - CEO

  • So, we thank you for joining us today, and we look forward to updating you on the next call. Thank you very much.