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  • Operator

  • Good day. Welcome to the TXNM Energy Q1 2025 conference call.

  • (Operator Instructions) Please note this event is being recorded.

  • I would now like to turn the conference over to Lisa Goodman, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

  • Lisa Goodman - Investor Relations

  • Thank you, Dave. Thank you, everyone, for joining us this morning for the TXNM Energy first-quarter 2025 earnings call.

  • Please note that the presentation for this conference call and other supporting documents are available on our website at txnmenergy.com. Joining me, today, are TXNM Energy Chair and CEO, Pat Collawn; President and Chief Operating Officer, Don Tarry; and Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Lisa Eden.

  • Before I turn the call over to Pat, I need to remind you that some of the information provided this morning should be considered forward-looking statements, pursuant to the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. We caution you that all of the forward-looking statements are based upon current expectations and estimates and that TXNM Energy assumes no obligation to update this information.

  • For a detailed discussion of factors affecting TXNM Energy results, please refer to our current and future annual reports on Form 10-K, quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, as well as reports on Form 8-K, filed with the SEC.

  • With that, I will turn the call over to Pat.

  • Patricia Collawn - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

  • Thank you, Lisa. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today on Billy Joel's 76th birthday. What a better way to celebrate his birthday by kicking our call off with Piano Man.

  • But even more exciting than Billy Joel's birthday is that today is PNM's 108th birthday. We were founded in 1917 as the Albuquerque Gas and Electric Company. And, today, we're celebrating more than a century of serving our customers.

  • So happy birthday to PNM.

  • I'll start on slide 4, with our financial results and company updates. Ongoing earnings for the first quarter this year are $0.19. This keeps us on track with our expectations for the year, which reflects the midyear implementation of new rates at PNM.

  • We are affirming our guidance for 2025 at a range of $2.74 to $2.84 per share, along with maintaining our long-term EPS growth target of 7% to 9%.

  • Lisa will cover the numbers in more detail.

  • I'm going to cover a couple of highlights for this quarter, before handing things over to Don.

  • Rate-based growth at TNMP continues to be supported by timely recovery of our investments. During the first quarter, our System Resiliency Plan was approved, allowing us to invest and recover $546 million in capital improvements that will enhance our ability to protect our system and respond to extreme weather events in service of our customers.

  • In New Mexico, the unopposed stipulation in our rate case continues to move forward. Hearings in the docket were completed in February and in April. The hearing examiners recommended approval of the stipulation. We expect the commission to make a decision in May or June, ahead of the July 1 rate implementation date.

  • New Mexico completed this year's legislative session with some key bills signed. The state has seen increased levels of interest in economic development and has identified the need to expedite the build-out of infrastructure needed to serve new large customers.

  • The business community rallied around these site readiness bills, which were passed with strong bipartisan support. This provides an avenue for electric, gas, and water utilities to pre-build this infrastructure and is designed to allow New Mexico to become even more competitive in attracting new businesses.

  • Another piece of legislation we supported was the creation of a Wildfire Task Force. The purpose of the task force is to develop a comprehensive approach on how New Mexico can better prevent and respond to wildfires and make recommendations on solutions for this. We see this as a positive step forward in laying the groundwork for future legislation that could help protect our customers, employees, and the communities we serve.

  • With that, Don, I'll turn it over to you for more details.

  • Joseph Tarry - President and Chief Operating Officer

  • Thank you, Pat. Good morning, everyone.

  • I'll start on slide 6, with TNMP. TNMP has already set a new system peak in the first quarter, coming in 22% higher than last year's first quarter system peak.

  • Demand-based load from traditional customers, along with data centers, had a strong start to the year. Demand-based load increased 9.7%, largely driven by growth in our North and West Texas regions, where commercial businesses have grown in the areas where data centers have been located.

  • Data center load picked up another 70 megawatts in the first quarter. We have a couple of existing customers that are expected to increase their demand up to another 150 megawatts, before the end of the year.

  • Interconnection requests were also up 6% compared to the first quarter of last year, with a noticeable uptick in the Gulf Coast area, supporting our continued growth expectations.

  • Pat highlighted the regulatory success TNMP has already seen in the first quarter of this year. Our System Resiliency Plan was approved, with $546 million of capital investments planned through 2027.

  • TNMP has filed and received approval for $83 million of transmission rate base investments made last year; and the proposed order approving recovery of $176 million of distribution rate base investments, pending final approval from the commission this month.

  • At the end of April, the commission formally approved the common projects in ERCOT's Permian Basin Reliability Study. TNMP will be investing approximately $750 million by 2030 to complete our share of these projects, which we added into our capital plans in February. We expect to file CCNs applications for these projects in the first quarter of 2026.

  • Turning to slide 7. We have not made any additional changes to our five-year capital plan from the updates at our year-end earnings call in February. Our plan remains focused on supporting the high level of growth in Texas, with a reliable and resilient grid.

  • The level of investments grow significantly, over the five years of our plan, from $600 million this year to over $1 billion starting in 2028. Rate base grows by 17% and becomes the largest portion of our total rate base. All of the discussions in Texas around ERCOT load forecast and higher voltage transmission line supports the growth embedded in our plans.

  • We continue to see good discussions in the Texas legislature on items that help facilitate these growth plans. This year's session ends June 2 so it's too early to know which bills will pass. But there has been some good progress. There were a handful of bills introduced this year aimed at reducing regulatory lag or strengthening credit metrics, as capital spending increases. And each of these could benefit TNMP.

  • In addition, we have been having conversations on these same topics with stakeholders, as we prepare to file our General Rate review, later this year.

  • There are also utility bills addressing wildfire prevention, ranging from pole inspections to the approval of wildfire mitigation plans. We are pleased that the legislature recognizes the need for some definition around utility responsibility and their associated liabilities. And we will be closely following the remaining progress.

  • The upcoming regulatory agenda includes our second TCOS and DCRF filings. And we will look to receive approval on both mechanisms, before filing our General Rate review in the fourth quarter, which will kick off the 180-day statutory clock.

  • We are targeting the implementation of new rates in Q2 of next year.

  • Let's move on to PNM on slide 8. The hearing examiner's recommendation to approve the unopposed stipulation in our rate review is our top highlight. It has been quite some time since we were able to achieve this type of agreement in a rate review.

  • The hearings were originally scheduled for two-and-a-half weeks and, ultimately, were held for two days; and provided a good opportunity for hearing examiners and commissioners to ask questions and discuss policy items raised in the filing. We were pleased to see the recommendation and look forward to commission decision in May or June, ahead of the implementation in July.

  • We also filed an unopposed stipulation in our 2028 resource filing for 450 megawatts of resources, including a 150-megawatt solar and storage facility in the Central Consolidated School District, the same area where the San Juan coal plant was retired. This was a key priority for stakeholders.

  • Hearings in these dockets were held in one day. And the hearing examiner issued their recommendation to approve the stipulation, earlier this week. We expect a decision from the commission in the third quarter.

  • As Pat mentioned, New Mexico's 60-day legislative session ended in March; and a key priority from the business community was for site readiness. The bill's primary objective allows utilities to prepare sites and build capacity to serve these customers, in advance. It also shortens the regulatory approval timeline and allows utilities to defer costs, until they can be included in a rate case proceeding.

  • These bills have been signed into law. And we are excited to see their impact, along with the proposals that will come from the Wildfire Task Force.

  • Another bill, HB 91, added a key tool that has been missing from rate-making. The commission did not have the ability to approve rates specific to low-income customers. This will be an important tool that can be used in our next rate review.

  • Turning to slide 9. I'll cover the current outlook at PNM. Again, we have not made any changes to our five-year capital investment plan. And we remain focused on balancing the needs of our system, with customer rate impacts.

  • One area coming into greater focus for PNM is transmission development. We completed a 20-year transmission study, late last year, and have been holding discussions with stakeholders, including the commission, last week.

  • We were able to share details about how additional investments could improve our system and meet the growing demands of our customers, along with ways these investments could utilize resources in New Mexico to provide benefits to our customers.

  • We have a number of upcoming items on our regulatory agenda. We will look for a decision on our rate review in Q2 and our 2028 resource application in Q3. We will make our annual update to our FERC formula rates in June. We will also be proposing the build-out of two small transmission lines, later this year, that would improve our ability to serve our customers, perform maintenance on existing lines, and facilitate economic development.

  • These investments have already been included in our capital plan.

  • We currently have an RFP outstanding for new resources available between 2029 and 2032. We forecasted a need of, at least, 500 megawatts of new capacity by 2030, with the actual amount dependent upon the type of resources selected from the independently-monitored process. We expect to file a resource application to propose our selected resources at the beginning of next year.

  • Our current capital plan does not include any amounts for this. And we will incorporate any new amounts, after that application is filed.

  • With that, I'll turn it over to Lisa for a few more detailed look at the numbers.

  • Elisabeth Eden - Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

  • Thank you, Don. Good morning, everyone.

  • I'll start on slide 11, with a recap of first-quarter results.

  • Ongoing earnings per share were $0.19. This is consistent with the expectation provided for the first quarter and reflects the absence of new rate recovery at PNM, until the second half of the year. Overall earnings benefited from recovery of capital investment through TCOS and DCRF mechanisms at TNMP and retail load growth at both utilities, including the impact of weather.

  • Degree days were higher at TNMP, partially offsetting lower heating degree days experienced in New Mexico. These increases were offset by new demand charges from energy storage agreements implemented at PNM in late 2024, lower transmission margins, higher insurance premiums, and the timing of planned outage costs.

  • Remember that under our unopposed rate stipulation, any changes to our demand charges are deferred to the balance sheet, reducing variability in these costs, once the new rate request has been approved.

  • Depreciation, property tax, and interest expense, associated with new investments, increased year over year. Detailed drivers for each of our segments are available in the appendix.

  • We have affirmed our guidance range for 2025 of $2.74 to $2.84.

  • We have updated the quarterly EPS distribution in the appendix to reflect our latest assumptions.

  • The third quarter continues to account for more than half of our EPS for the year. The capital plan on slide 12 remains the same as the plan we showed at the end of February.

  • We expect tariffs to have about a 2% impact on these plans, as we move forward. And we will incorporate any changes into our capital allocation and prioritization process.

  • We are mindful of customer impact. And we'll balance this with system needs, as we work to mitigate any increases.

  • I'll wrap up with our earnings power on slide 13. There are no changes from what we disclosed in February, which included a number of incremental capital opportunities and increased our growth targets.

  • We continue to target EPS growth of 7% to 9% from 2025 through 2029. And the earnings power supports the upper half of this range. We feel confident in our ability to execute on this plan.

  • With that, I'll turn it back over to Pat.

  • Patricia Collawn - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

  • Thank you, Lisa.

  • Before I open it up for questions, I want to take a moment to thank our teams across New Mexico and Texas. These are exciting times for us, as we build out our systems and prepare for growth.

  • Our teams are stepping up to the plate. And I am proud to lead these teams and watch our employees grow and succeed.

  • Dave, with that, let's open it up for questions.

  • Operator

  • We will begin the question-and-answer session.

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Nick Campanella, Barclays.

  • Nicholas Campanella - Analyst

  • All right. Hey, everyone. Happy birthday.

  • Patricia Collawn - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

  • Thank you.

  • Nicholas Campanella - Analyst

  • Morning. Hey, a lot of good comments on legislation in your prepared. But I was just curious with this House Bill of 5247, involving the Permian transmission projects.

  • I just wanted to confirm that you would be in scope for that; and, maybe, you can talk about how that impacts your earned ROEs in a normal rate year or allows you to, maybe, accelerate some more capital and how that can impact what's assumed on the on the TNMP side.

  • Thank you.

  • Joseph Tarry - President and Chief Operating Officer

  • Hey. Thanks, Nick. And you're referring to 5247? House Bill 5247, the Unified Tracker?

  • Nicholas Campanella - Analyst

  • Correct.

  • Joseph Tarry - President and Chief Operating Officer

  • Yeah. No. We see that as beneficial to TNMP.

  • As you are probably very familiar with and others on the call, that allows you to group everything together. It looks and smells a lot like the system resiliency recovery mechanism, where you can defer pretty much everything to the balance sheet and earn on it; and then, bring it in so you eliminate regulatory lag associated with it.

  • I think the way to think about it is it would be beneficial to TNMP, from an EPS perspective. Timing of cash flows will be a little bit different because TCOS and [NDR].

  • Yeah. TCOS, specifically, as it relates to premium base and you get to file twice a year. But, here, you'd file it once a year.

  • Nicholas Campanella - Analyst

  • Okay. That's great. I appreciate that.

  • And then, look, I just want to address that, on prior calls, when you -- especially, when you came out of the AGR process -- you still seem to acknowledge the benefits of size and scale, mostly from the viewpoint of sourcing more efficient capital to finance what is a very large and growing rate plan or large and growing CapEx plan.

  • Just, maybe, you can give us an updated view on how you're thinking about that, today; and if anything's change in your mind.

  • Patricia Collawn - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

  • No, Nick. The Board still holds the same views that they did: that going into an environment of large growth -- that the size and scale can really help with a large capital plan. So nothing has changed there.

  • Nicholas Campanella - Analyst

  • Okay. And then, just one last one, if I can.

  • I know, Lisa, (inaudible) a retirement date. And the effective date in that was March 15 or no sooner than March 15. Now that we're just in May, maybe, just an update on how you're viewing that role, as a team.

  • Patricia Collawn - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

  • We are enjoying the fact that we still have Lisa Eden services with us. We're going to celebrate that.

  • And when we have news on another CFO, we will let everybody know.

  • Nicholas Campanella - Analyst

  • Okay. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Julien Dumoulin-Smith, Jefferies.

  • Brian Russo - Analyst

  • Yeah. Hi. Good morning.

  • It's Brian Russo, on for Julien.

  • Joseph Tarry - President and Chief Operating Officer

  • Hi, Brian.

  • Brian Russo - Analyst

  • Hey. Just on the upcoming TNMP base rate case, what are the major drivers of the case? Is it less about regulatory lag, more about rate design and cap structure?

  • And can you remind us what is the actual balance sheet equity ratio for TNMP, as of March?

  • Joseph Tarry - President and Chief Operating Officer

  • Yeah. I think it will be rate design, primarily. Obviously, we'll look at capital structure, as well, too. Currently, the capital structure is going to be 45% equity.

  • And so, those will be the factors. But a big part of it is rate design. We haven't been in in seven years. This is -- we're starting our seventh year, here, so it's important to get that rate design adjusted.

  • Brian Russo - Analyst

  • Okay. Good.

  • And then, on the TNMP Permian Basin CapEx, it's $750 million but it seems heavily weighted towards 2030 or half of the CapEx is for that one year. Just curious what your confidence level is on the execution timeline?

  • And then, secondarily, are there any, maybe, indirect upside CapEx for the 765 kV projects that are approved, understanding that TNMP is not going to directly participate in the 765. But just curious if there's any ancillary type CapEx.

  • Joseph Tarry - President and Chief Operating Officer

  • Yeah. On the first part of your question: we are confident to be able to deliver on approximately $750 million of capital. We'll file our CCNs. The commission has staged those CCNs so that they can come in in time, based on the overall design.

  • And so, our first set of CCNs will be filed early part of next year. We're already down the path of getting and ordering all the equipment that we need associated with it.

  • On the 765 kV: not any indirect that we're aware of, at this time, but we do look at the overall size of 765, when you look at the whole state of opportunities, as we look forward in Texas.

  • Brian Russo - Analyst

  • Thank you. Is there still a plan to refinance the remaining parent level debt, later this year, with equity like securities or junior subordinated notes?

  • Elisabeth Eden - Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

  • Brian, we (inaudible) that's our plan; that we have a term loan. The majority of the term loan is not expiring until mid of next year.

  • And so, we have ample of time to refinance that holding company debt with equity like securities.

  • Brian Russo - Analyst

  • And then, lastly, the RFP at P&M. You mentioned 500 megawatts. But is it up to several 1,000 megawatts by 2032?

  • Just trying to book in what the CapEx upside might be at P&M, the earliest, in early 2026.

  • Joseph Tarry - President and Chief Operating Officer

  • Yeah. No. Absolutely.

  • When you look at the '29 to 2032 RFP, it was anywhere from 900 megawatts up to 2,900 megawatts, depending upon the depending upon the types of resources that were selected.

  • Brian Russo - Analyst

  • Okay. Great. Thank you very much.

  • Joseph Tarry - President and Chief Operating Officer

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Michael Lonegan, Evercore ISI.

  • Michael Lonegan - Analyst

  • Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions.

  • This is a follow-up on the New Mexico RFP process. Just wondering: How is it progressing? Are tariffs making it more complicated?

  • And you talked about the size of megawatts but can you talk about your targeted ownership there?

  • Joseph Tarry - President and Chief Operating Officer

  • In New Mexico, we have an Independent Evaluator that participates with us, which is a good thing because as you work through the process, they file their report with the commission. That helps justify the resources that are needed.

  • And I think that's important, as we go through the RFP process. And that's how it's been established.

  • So our timeline is going as expected. There will be abilities for folks to identify, based on May 1, of what their resources are and the prices.

  • And working with the Independent Evaluator, if tariff prices change, those will probably be incorporated. But we'll work jointly with the Independent Evaluator.

  • I don't want to get out in front of that process because, again, it's working together. So we will do what's right for customers, as it relates to the types of resources and who owns them and who doesn't own them.

  • Michael Lonegan - Analyst

  • Great. Thanks. And then, on the topic of tariffs: What are you seeing, as far as the impact, as it relates to your capital plan?

  • Patricia Collawn - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

  • Yeah. Mark, I think Lisa said about 2%. It's in line with what other utilities are saying. It's not real large, right now.

  • Michael Lonegan - Analyst

  • Okay. And then, lastly for me, in New Mexico, you've talked about pursuing transmission development to support the growing demand. And I know you have $185 million of transmission bill in your current five-year CapEx plan.

  • Just wondering what you see as the size of the incremental investment opportunity over the five-year period and beyond.

  • Joseph Tarry - President and Chief Operating Officer

  • Over the five-year period -- because transmission takes a little bit of time to develop -- probably, just a little bit more.

  • But when you get outside that five-year period, to give you a feel of -- and these were transmission studies that were done that we presented to the commission, last week: when you take into consideration, state-wide, the transmission that needs to be built, it's in the round of about $4 billion in transmission, over that 20 year.

  • Michael Lonegan - Analyst

  • Thanks for taking my question.

  • Joseph Tarry - President and Chief Operating Officer

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Anthony Crowdell, Mizuho.

  • Anthony Crowdell - Analyst

  • Hey. Good morning, team.

  • I can't believe Nick really want to get rid of Lisa that quick. Just --

  • Lisa Goodman - Investor Relations

  • I know. Thank you, Anthony.

  • Anthony Crowdell - Analyst

  • Just actually following up on one of Nick's questions: talking about the Texas legislation, HB, I think it's 57, I forgot the number, 5247.

  • I believe and it may have been changing -- maybe, that's my question -- that to qualify for that legislation, you had to spend I thought it was like 3x of depreciation.

  • Is that accurate? As the bill stands now, does TNMP -- would they qualify under that legislation?

  • Joseph Tarry - President and Chief Operating Officer

  • Yes. That is correct, on the 300% above depreciation. And, yes, TNMP would fit that.

  • Anthony Crowdell - Analyst

  • Great. And, now, here's off-the-beaten-path question.

  • Before most calls, you, guys, usually have like a message in the music that you select before the call. Like, after the AGR deal, I think it was like Elton John, I'm Still Standing. And there was like a message there.

  • This is Piano Man. And I didn't get the message. I'm wondering: Was there a message or just you, guys, are big Billy Joel fans?

  • Patricia Collawn - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

  • We're big Billy Joel fans. No hidden messages, today.

  • Anthony Crowdell - Analyst

  • Okay. Thanks. Thanks for taking my questions. Congrats.

  • Patricia Collawn - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • This concludes our question-and-answer session.

  • I would like to turn the conference back over to Pat Collawn for any closing remarks.

  • Patricia Collawn - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

  • Thank you, Dave. Thank you, all, for joining us this morning.

  • As you raise a glass tonight, please raise one to Billy Joel for 76 and PNM for 109.

  • Thank you, all. Stay safe.

  • Operator

  • The conference is now concluded.

  • Thank you for attending today's presentation.

  • You may now disconnect.