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  • Operator

  • Welcome to the TowerJazz Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2019 Results Conference call.

  • (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, this conference is being recorded February 18, 2020.

  • Joining us today are Mr. Russell Ellwanger, TowerJazz's CEO; and Mr. Oren Shirazi, CFO.

  • I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Noit Levi, Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications.

  • Ms. Levi, please go ahead.

  • Noit Levi-Karoubi - VP of IR & Corporate Communications

  • Welcome to TowerJazz financial results conference call for the fourth quarter and fiscal year of 2019.

  • Before we begin, I would like to remind you that some statements made during this call may be forward-looking and are subject to uncertainties and risk factors that could cause actual results to be different from those currently expected.

  • These uncertainties and risk factors are fully disclosed in our forms 20-F, F-4, F-3 and 6-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission as well as filings with the Israeli Securities Authority.

  • They are also available on our website.

  • TowerJazz assumes no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements.

  • Please note that the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2019 financial results have been prepared in accordance with U.S. GAAP.

  • The financial tables and data in today's earnings release and in this earnings call also include certain adjusted financial information that may be considered non-GAAP financial measures under Regulation G and related resulting requirements as established with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

  • The financial tables include a full explanation of these measures and the reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the GAAP financial measures.

  • Now I'd like to turn the call to our CEO, Mr. Russell Ellwanger.

  • Russell, please go ahead.

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • Thank you, Noit, and thank you, everyone, for joining our call today discussing our fourth quarter and full year 2019 business and financial results as well as 2020 and beyond main growth drivers and supporting activities.

  • Fourth quarter revenues were within our guidance at $306 million.

  • We concluded 2019 with revenue at $1.234 billion generating a net profit of $90 million, with free cash flow of $119 million.

  • We continue to maintain a healthy balance sheet and our financial situation is strong.

  • We believe to be well positioned to participate and leverage the expected markets recovery and improving business trends.

  • Oren Shirazi, our CFO, will provide a more in-depth review of our fourth quarter and full year 2019 financial results upon the conclusion of my remarks.

  • TowerJazz entered 2019 knowing Q2 would enlist a new phase for our contract with Panasonic, one which reduced circa $90 million annualized revenue against the Q1 '19 revenue run rate.

  • Otherwise, the year began with a very positive outlook, with good backlog at all major activities of all of our business units.

  • This outlook soon dampened due to the trade war and various inventory correction implications.

  • With no apparent market share losses, these corrections resulted in a 25%, 18% and 25% second half '19 versus second half '18 reduction of silicon germanium, mainly data center, discrete and industrial sensors revenue, respectively.

  • However, due to strong activities in other segments, we posted a year-over-year organic revenue growth of 5% due to strong long-term customer partnerships with a focus on growing analog and application markets.

  • Customer forecasts and present orders indicate good overall 2020 growth, ramping sequentially through the year, which should result in significant second half 2020 versus second half 2019 financial performance.

  • Accordingly, we expect year-over-year revenue growth in 2020 with low double-digit organic growth achieved through higher utilization levels in our factories, including the ramp of our newer 200-millimeter technology platforms and offerings, an increase in 300-millimeter customer demand supported by capacity increases organically for short to midterm and in addition, capacity growth through M&As for longer-term demand.

  • To summarize 2019 to the best granularity that we have, the breakdown of the $1.23 billion revenue per end market application was the following: infrastructure revenue, which is predominantly RF optical, was at $136 million.

  • Wireless, predominantly RF SOI, silicon germanium PAs, silicon germanium LNAs and RF CMOS controllers for mobile was at $263 million.

  • Automotive was $129 million.

  • Industrial, predominantly image sensors, was $61 million.

  • Aerospace and defense, $51 million.

  • High-end photography, $50 million.

  • Medical, $47 million.

  • Consumer, including computing, power management for home appliances and general accessories and security cameras, $120 million.

  • Additional power device revenues were $262 million, of which we don't have exact end market application use, but serve multiple of the above-mentioned segments such as automotive, industrial, wireless and consumer.

  • Another grouping of mixed signal devices totaled about $115 million, which serve consumer, automotive, wireless and a variety of IoT applications.

  • Another view of our market is technology-based for our 3 corporate focuses.

  • Seamless connectivity, which relates to RF infrastructure and RF signal for mobile platforms, represented 31% of our corporate revenues.

  • Green everything, energy efficiency, served by power management ICs and power discretes, was 38% of our corporate revenues.

  • Interactive spark systems, which relates to our sensors offerings, represented about 16% of our corporate revenues.

  • The rest of our business, which was about 15% of corporate revenue, served various mixed signal applications.

  • The products within this group include MCUs, ASICS, RFID tags, logic standard cells and certain special CMOS embedded memories.

  • These products are in computing, industrial, consumer, automotive end markets and aerospace and defense.

  • Looking into our analog IC business unit that includes both RF high-precision analog and power management, in 2019, we experienced strong growth in RF SOI for mobile of over 40% revenue growth year-over-year.

  • This is a result of a strong and successful ramp of our 300-millimeter technology, which has allowed us to gain market share in high-end applications for which more advanced digital integration may be required, built on top of a strong and growing base of advanced 200-millimeter platform application use, for which 200 millimeter, we saw a 24% H2 '19 versus H2 '18 revenue growth.

  • During the year, we made available to customers a new 200-millimeter RF SOI technology, which we named QT9, that delivers strong performance in power handling for 5G applications.

  • We won a large number of new product designs with this new technology that are now prototyping and beginning to ramp.

  • We are investing $20 million of capability CapEx to enable volume production of the advanced features of this platform.

  • This 200-millimeter RF SOI new platform will further augment the growth from our 300-millimeter RF SOI platform, which is enabled this year by the $100 million 300-millimeter capacity investment that we previously announced.

  • Our silicon germanium optical business experienced an inventory correction in the data center market.

  • The effect was a decline of silicon germanium revenue of about 8% year-over-year.

  • Due to lead time, orders are offset from revenue by roughly 1.5 quarters.

  • So while orders slowed strongly in the first half due to the inventory correction, most of the revenue reduction was felt in the second half of the 2019 year.

  • By the same lead time reasoning, while we are seeing recovery in orders now, particularly for 5G infrastructure and as well as signs of depleting inventories in the 100 gigabit per second data center devices, according to forecasts, we expect a SiGe revenue growth of more than 20% in the second half of the year of 2020 as compared to the first half.

  • In 2019, we won a new product design from all major optical SiGe customers on our latest platform, H5, targeting 200-gigabit per second and 400-gigabit per second standards and beyond.

  • Several of these products have successfully prototyped in 2019, and several others are now in design, positioning us well as these new standards come online over the next few years.

  • In the area of silicon photonics in 2019, we announced that one of our customers, Inphi, had begun shipping production volumes for 100G data center connectivity and announced that we are jointly developing technology for next-generation silicon photonics products.

  • We anticipate additional announcements related to progress with silicon photonics customers in 2020, positioning us for strong growth in the years to come.

  • The main growth driver for this platform are speeds transitioning from 100-gigabit per second to 400-gigabit per second, where this technology is likely to be more widely adopted due to its power, cost and performance benefits over traditional discrete optical assemblies.

  • We have over 30 active customers at different stages in our silicon photonics production funnel with more than 20 that have taped out for a variety of applications, some quite novel and market disruptive.

  • We expect revenues to become more significant by the end of 2020 and ramp substantially in 2021 and beyond.

  • Our power IC business experienced strong organic growth of 19% in 2019 over 2018.

  • This was primarily driven by automotive battery management and an initial ramp of our highly differentiated 65-nanometer BCD platform on 300-millimeter.

  • We announced new 140-volt non-SOI Devices at 180-nanometer for 200-millimeter BCD platform, which, to our knowledge, supports the highest voltages within 180-nanometer standard for non-SOI BCD foundry processes.

  • Providing these higher voltages without SOI results in a strong cost advantage.

  • And these are increasingly important in many automotive and industrial applications, where we see strong market potential.

  • We have won initial customers, including 2 Tier 1 customers that are designing in the platform now.

  • To summarize the main growth drivers for our analog IC business unit for 2020 and beyond, 5G is the most significant driver for our RF business for this year and for the next few years.

  • 5G impacts both our mobile business, with RF content, is projected to be at 70% CAGR for the coming years according to Yole; and infrastructure, where we are already seeing silicon germanium orders increase for optical connection to serve 5G deployments around the world.

  • Recovery from the inventory correction in our optical SiGe data center market, driving shipments in the second half of 2020 will provide good opportunity for additional growth this year.

  • Looking beyond this year, we expect our SiGe data center to continue along the rate of data transmission growth to the Internet, which most industry analysts assume will continue at approximately 15% CAGR.

  • In addition, automotive is a strong growth driver.

  • In RF today, we have deployed RF radar in several vehicle models and are working now with several customers on LIDAR techniques that make use both of our silicon germanium as well as our new silicon photonics platforms for the future increasing number and capabilities of autonomous vehicles.

  • And as mentioned, we are leading with our SiPho platform capabilities.

  • In power ICs, our strong traction for the 65-nanometer 300-millimeter BCD platform in the market provided us with a full funnel of opportunities that will ramp in 2020 and beyond and promise strong growth in power ICs for years to come, providing additional ROI for 300-millimeter capacity growth.

  • We also see automotive as a main growth driver, as previously discussed, the strong growth we experienced in 2019 from battery management electrical vehicles, and we anticipate further growth as more of the automotive fleet moves to electric drive, and as we deploy more advanced high-voltage technologies, such as the 140-volt non-SOI process.

  • Moving to our sensors business unit, despite an organic revenue decline of about 20% in the industrial sensor market, predominantly a consequence of the trade war, we were able to compensate to a great extent, to have a decrease of 4% year-over-year organic revenues.

  • The said compensation was via the growth of our x-ray medical sensors market and our high-end visible camera market.

  • This growth should continue in 2020.

  • And with an expected recovery in the industrial sensor market, we target a double-digit organic growth in this business in 2020.

  • 2019 was an exciting year for our future, both in state-of-the-art technology developments and in customer engagements.

  • As announced, we have released our 300-millimeter backside illumination hybrid bonding stack wafer technology with copper to copper electrical contacts at a pitch smaller than 2.5 micron, the smallest in the world.

  • This technology allows a connection of a BSI sensor to a CMOS logic and analog wafer at the pixel level.

  • We won 2 major customers that are using this technology for the mobile time-of-flight market, both for face recognition and front-looking 3D applications.

  • These products will grow into mass volume production in 2022.

  • The same technology will be used with our existing customers for high-end photography market, both in high-end DSLR and mirrorless cameras and in cinematography.

  • In addition, we engage with large optical fingerprint sensor providers on the development of under OLED and under LCD sensors, utilizing our high-performing CIS technologies in our 200-millimeter fabs at the 0.18-micron technology node.

  • These products are expected to ramp in the second half of this year and to further grow to high volumes in 2021 and beyond.

  • Looking at our TOPS business unit, the core of our transfer flow activities in the TOPS unit are for the discrete market.

  • This market was soft, especially in the second half of 2019.

  • We are now beginning to see an increase in customer forecasted demand.

  • We have maintained and grown market share with our existing customers and have added new key customer engagements in 2019.

  • We add value through, for example, advanced MOSFET codevelopments and are currently focused on a few activities in this area, among which, one, releasing advanced new split-gate super junction and advanced Trench MOSFET platforms to production, enabling our customers better position in the market, offering continually more competitive products.

  • Two, optimizing our automotive flows, hence enabling MOSFET automotive platforms in both Fab 2 in Migdal Haemek and Fab 9 in San Antonio in this high growth segment.

  • Three, increasing engagements on MOSFETs with Japanese Tier 1 IDMs, ramping to high-volume production in our Tonami fab while securing additional wins with target ramp through 2020.

  • We won this business in Japan through demonstrating better performance than the incumbent and enabling features that our customers could not bring up in-house.

  • With those activities, we expect to see growth in this segment throughout 2020.

  • On top of our transfer flow activities, we are targeting unique business models of differentiated technologies with high margin, among which: one, development for advanced nanowire intrinsic RGB microdisplays that should bring high-margin differentiated business for both 200-millimeter and 300-millimeter substrate sizes; two, expanding our partnership with a leading TMR sensor provider by adding further differentiated capabilities in our factories; and lastly, additional MEMS high-value add programs in both our 8- and 6-inch factories, among which we expect a ramp to high volumes during the second half of this year for a differentiated MEMS microphone activity.

  • Looking at utilizations, during in the fourth quarter, we saw the following rates.

  • In Migdal Haemek Fab 1, our 6-inch factory was at about 70%, an increase from the previous quarter.

  • Fab 2 was at 70%, having been the bottom quarter for discrete manufacturing.

  • Newport Beach, California was at about 50% utilization, similar to last quarter, with an end of year begin of a SiGe recovery ramp.

  • Our San Antonio factory Fab 9 was at 55% utilization, similar to the previous quarter, but with a 10-point increase in foundry business utilization.

  • Looking at our TPSCo fabs in Japan, utilization for the 8-inch foundry as a percentage of allotted foundry capacity according to new manufacturing agreement was about 55%, an increase compared to the previous quarter.

  • Our 12-inch foundry utilization, 70%, an increase over the previous quarter and presently bottleneck constrained and should grow during the next month as new tools come online.

  • I will state the present bottleneck constraint is not lithography constrained.

  • So as these new tools come online, we'll see substantial and quick move into manufacturing.

  • To summarize, we guide the first quarter of 2020 to be $300 million with an upward or downward range of 5%.

  • As world citizens, we care deeply and are diligently tracking the coronavirus outbreak situation.

  • We are in close contact with our exceptional Chinese sales force and design and application support teams as well as with our China-based customers.

  • We are doing all within our power to help and to support.

  • As far as business continuity, with a deep look, we currently see no impact in our supply chain.

  • We have seen a small reduction in Q1 activities of about $3 million to $5 million revenue impact, which is already reflected in our Q1 guidance.

  • We will update if there will be any material impacts on our business.

  • As all human beings, we hope the coronavirus situation will be contained shortly and resolved as soon as possible with suffering minimized as much as possible.

  • To summarize, as demonstrated in present orders and in customer forecast, we believe to be well positioned to participate in and benefit from expected market recovery and the present upward business trends.

  • We see this, meaning 2020, as an overall growth year, driven by double-digit organic growth.

  • With that, I'd like to turn the call to our CFO, Mr. Oren Shirazi.

  • Oren?

  • Oren Shirazi - CFO & Senior VP of Finance

  • Thank you, Russell, and welcome, everyone.

  • Thank you for joining us today.

  • I will start by providing the P&L highlights for the year ended December 31, 2019 and for the fourth quarter of 2019, and then discuss our balance sheet.

  • Revenues for 2019 were $1.23 billion as compared to $1.3 billion in 2018.

  • Nonorganic revenue were $111 million lower in 2019, of which $70 million are attributed to the March 2019 renewed Panasonic contract.

  • This was offset by a $41 million increase year-over-year in organic revenues, reflecting 5% organic growth.

  • We define organic revenue as total revenue, excluding revenue from Panasonic and revenue for Maxim in the San Antonio fab.

  • Gross operating and net profits for 2019 were $230 million, $87 million and $90 million, respectively, compared to $293 million, $155 million and $136 million in 2018, respectively.

  • EBITDA for 2019 was $299 million as compared to $362 million as of -- for 2018.

  • Analyzing the annual margins, we see that the revenue mix and the cost structure of the company improved and we had recorded significant savings, which partially mitigated the March 2019 previously announced renewed Panasonic contract impact and the nonorganic revenue reduction.

  • For example, we see that against the $111 million lower nonorganic revenue, net margins was lower only by $46 million, reflecting $65 million betterment, resulting both from the higher $41 million organic revenue as well as from an improved revenue mix and cost structure.

  • Revenue for the fourth quarter of 2019 were $306 million as compared to $334 million in the fourth quarter of 2018.

  • Nonorganic revenues are $36 million lower in the fourth quarter of 2019, of which $23 million are attributed to the March 2019 renewed Panasonic contract, and are offset by $8 million increase year-over-year in organic revenues, reflecting 4% growth.

  • Revenue for the third quarter of 2019 were $312 million.

  • Gross operating and net profits for the fourth quarter of 2019 were $55 million, $19 million and $21 million, respectively, as compared to $58 million, $23 million and $22 million, respectively, in the prior quarter.

  • For the fourth quarter of 2018, gross operating and net profit were $76 million, $40 million and $38 million, respectively.

  • EBITDA for the fourth quarter of 2019 was $75 million, similar to the $75 million presented in prior quarter and as compared to $93 million in the fourth quarter of 2018.

  • If you analyze the quarterly margin on a year-over-year basis, you see that the cost structure of the company improved as well, and we had recorded significant savings, which partially mitigated the March 2019 previously announced renewed Panasonic contract impact and the nonorganic revenue reduction.

  • For example, we see that against the $36 million lower nonorganic revenue, net margin is lower by $17 million only, reflecting the $19 million betterment resulting both from the higher $8 million organic revenue as well as from an improved revenue mix and cost structure.

  • I will now provide the cash flow highlights for 2019 and for the fourth quarter, and a balance sheet analysis of -- as of December 31, 2019.

  • During 2019, the company generated $291 million of positive cash from operations and invested $172 million net in fixed assets, resulting in $119 million positive free cash flow for 2019.

  • This is compared to $313 million cash from operations for 2018 and $170 million investment in fixed assets in 2018, which resulted in $143 million of free cash flow for 2018.

  • In the fourth quarter of 2019, cash generated from operations was $72 million as compared to $73 million in the prior quarter.

  • And investments in property and equipment net was $44 million and $43 million in the fourth and third quarters of 2019, respectively.

  • Looking at the balance sheet.

  • Total short-term and long-term debt presented in the balance sheet as of December 31, 2019, as well as our long-term assets increased as compared to December 31, 2018, mainly due to the implementation of accounting standard update ASU 2016-02, leases, effective January 1, 2019, which was issued in relation to leases.

  • Additional details regarding ASU 2016-02 are included in our annual financial statement.

  • In addition, as far as liabilities, the first 2 installments under our 2016 Series G bonds in the total amount of $38 million are scheduled to be paid during 2020, and as a result, are included as short-term maturities and short-term liabilities as of December 31, 2019.

  • We significantly strengthened our balance sheet, including the following: our shareholders' equity reached a record of $1.35 billion, a $111 million increase as compared to December 31, 2018, mostly due to 2019 net profit.

  • Total balance sheet increased from $1.79 billion to $1.93 billion in the end of the year.

  • Our ratio of shareholders' equity to total assets being at 70% and our current assets ratio being 4.3x.

  • Moving on to elaborate on the tax line in the P&L, I would like to describe our applicable and effective tax rate.

  • Our U.S. affiliates, Jazz Semiconductor and TowerJazz Texas, which own our Newport Beach and San Antonio fabs, respectively, are subject to a tax rate of 21%, effective from 2018, following the U.S. tax reform.

  • TPSCo's profits from the Japanese operations are subject to an approximate 32% tax rate.

  • Our profits in Israel from Fab 1 and Fab 2 operations, while subject to a 7.5% tax rate, are not expected to result in any tax payments for the foreseeable future due to our approximate $1 billion historical NOLs, net losses carry forward, that may be carried forward indefinitely under Israeli law.

  • Considering this and certain tax exemptions, discounts and credits, our all-in worldwide weighted average effective tax rate this year was 3% for the year as compared to 4% for the year ended 2018.

  • I would like now to describe our currency hedging activities in relation to the Japanese yen.

  • Since the majority portion of TPSCo's revenues is denominated in yen and the vast majority of TPSCo's costs are in yen, we have a natural hedge over most of our Japanese business and operations.

  • In order to mitigate part of the remaining yen exposure, we execute 0 cost cylinder hedging transactions.

  • These 0 cost cylinder transaction hedge currency fluctuations to be contained in a narrow range as compared to the spot exchange rate.

  • Hence, while the yen rate against the dollar may fluctuate, the impact on our margins is limited.

  • In addition, in relation to the Japanese yen impact on the balance sheet, we have a natural hedge on cash and loan balances since the loans and the cash are both yen denominated.

  • This helps to protect us from potential impact of yen fluctuations.

  • And lastly, in relation to fluctuation of the Israeli currency, the shekel, we have no revenues in the -- in this currency.

  • Since approximately 10% of our costs are denominated in the Israeli currency, we also hedge a large portion of this currency risk using: A, 0 cost cylinder transactions; B, investing a portion of our cash in Israeli marketable securities denominated in the Israeli currency, thereby providing us a natural hedge.

  • And the last note on our share count, as of December 31, 2019, we had 107 million outstanding ordinary shares.

  • We no longer have any capital notes outstanding since all were converted into equity in the past.

  • The fully diluted share count is 109 million.

  • The difference between the outstanding and the diluted share count is comprised entirely of ESOP-related options and RSUs.

  • And now I wish to turn the call back to the operator.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) The first question is from Mark Lipacis of Jefferies.

  • Mark John Lipacis - MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • I had a couple.

  • The first one on the outlook for double-digit organic revenue growth, does that exclude Maxim and Panasonic?

  • And can you give us a rough estimate of how big those were in 2019?

  • Oren Shirazi - CFO & Senior VP of Finance

  • Yes, Mark.

  • We said that the forecast for low double-digit growth is for the organic revenue.

  • And in addition, we said that we forecast overall growth for the entire revenue.

  • About the size of it, you can take the $1.23 billion revenue that we have, and you should deduct from it in order to reach the baseline of the organic revenues.

  • What we said in the past, as renewed in the March 2019 contract from Panasonic, it is between $70 million to $85 million a quarter of revenues from Panasonic.

  • So if you multiply it by four, you know the annual number of the Panasonic.

  • And about Maxim, we didn't say in the past -- we did say in the past that when we acquired the San Antonio facility, its revenues were, at that point, at a capacity of $150 million, and we did say that Maxim at that point was about 45%, 50% of digitization of the fab, and we said that it's growing gradually down.

  • So one may calculate that it's somewhere below $70 million in a number that, of course, we don't want to say because it's not public domain.

  • Mark John Lipacis - MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • That's fair enough.

  • And maybe for Russell, can you give us a sense of where capacity utilization is at your customers or perhaps in the competitive environment.

  • Do you have a sense that there's a lot of excess capacity at the bottom of this downturn?

  • Or is it -- would you characterize it differently?

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • At our customers, other than the TOPS group, most of our customers have no internal capacity for what we make for them.

  • In the TOPS group, we certainly -- whether the customers are IDMs, that transfer flows to us.

  • Where they're at on their utilizations or their overall capacity, that's something that specifically track.

  • But for the most part, for the IDM customers that we serve, the flows that we serve for them are somewhat exclusive at our factories.

  • So I don't think that their capacities have -- or utilization rates have too much to do with what we make for them, or with demands.

  • In the TOPS group, there was an overall decrease in discrete demand last year.

  • There was a very big inventory correction after multiple years of discrete growth.

  • But -- so I don't think that that has so much to say with it.

  • I believe that in China right now, I think that there's a good amount of 200-millimeter capacity.

  • I don't think that there is very much 300-millimeter capacity available.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Cody Acree of Loop Capital.

  • Cody Grant Acree - MD

  • Could we just talk a little bit about your -- Russell, you made segment forecasts and segment trends.

  • But we -- especially in comms infrastructure, this silicon germanium ramp, you've obviously installed significant amounts of capacity.

  • And yet it seems like the order flow from that Silicon Valley -- silicon germanium customers just haven't -- either haven't had the end markets, or is there something else going on?

  • I'm just -- if you can speak to the disappointment?

  • I guess it's just a few million dollars, but still below expectations for both December and March.

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • I'm sorry, please?

  • What is below expectation for March?

  • Cody Grant Acree - MD

  • Just the revenue guidance.

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • I don't think that the Q1 guidance is at all below expectation.

  • The -- certainly, Q4 was $306 million, as we stated; the mid-range that we had given was $312 million.

  • So it came in at $306 million, but that's why we give a revenue range.

  • The probably larger impact in Q4 wasn't an issue of silicon germanium as far as what was happening, why it was in the second quartile instead of being at the midpoint.

  • But on the discrete market, discretes are short flows.

  • Those are mainly, to a great extent, turn business within the quarter.

  • And as I stated, the fourth quarter was our lowest quarter in multiple years in discrete market.

  • If I look at the Q4 '19 and Q1 '20, so there's already quite a substantial increase in the TOPS business from Q4 '19 into Q1 '20.

  • But the -- so I think that more deals with that.

  • And as stated by Oren just a few minutes ago and multiple times, the revenues from the Panasonic contract are within a range.

  • We don't control what that range will be to a great degree.

  • So you have a top and a bottom, which is the reason that we, ourselves, give a guidance range.

  • So I wouldn't say that Q4, in my mind, missed an expectation.

  • It was in the second quartile, but it wasn't related to not understanding what the silicon germanium would be.

  • Silicon germanium is a very long flow.

  • It's -- for a quarterly forecast, it's very difficult to miss a silicon germanium forecast.

  • Now the other question is silicon germanium as a whole.

  • And that's a very, very different question.

  • But related to Q1 being second quartile -- I'm sorry, Q4 being second quartile rather than midpoint, although, again, that's why one gives a range.

  • It's not at all related to silicon germanium.

  • For silicon germanium, I stated I believe to some degree of clarity during my discussion, that during the first half of 2019, we saw a decline in orders which has an impact in second half revenue because you're dealing with 40- to 43- layer products.

  • And stating as well that we are now seeing a recovery in silicon germanium.

  • I believe I stated that we would see by customer forecast at this point, a second half that would have a greater than 20% increase in silicon germanium revenue shipments as against the first half, which is pretty substantial.

  • So we do see the recovery of the SiGe, and I think it has been -- remains a very strong and very critical business.

  • What we are seeing as what's happening within the silicon germanium, it's -- for us, because of the parts themselves that are being ordered, we have a fairly good granularity of what they're going into.

  • So if you have a 25-gigabit per second device, it's predominantly for 5G right now.

  • And a 4 channel 25 gigabit is predominantly for 100-gig data centers.

  • So we've seen a nice increase with the proliferation of 5G infrastructure, and we are seeing a pickup now in orders for 100G data centers.

  • Does that answer your question, Cody?

  • Cody Grant Acree - MD

  • Yes, it did.

  • And then just for Oren, can you just talk me through the puts and takes that you're keeping the biggest eye on for gross margin trends through 2020?

  • Oren Shirazi - CFO & Senior VP of Finance

  • BSI?

  • What's BSI?

  • What do you mean, BSI?

  • Cody Grant Acree - MD

  • I'm sorry.

  • I was just asking about the gross margin trends that you're expecting in maybe some of the give and takes for 2020?

  • Oren Shirazi - CFO & Senior VP of Finance

  • Yes.

  • So I believe, like I said in the script that I -- that we are in -- improved our cost structure and revenue mix as could -- started to be seen this year.

  • And from this baseline of $1.23 billion revenue that resulted in a $230 million gross profit, I think for any additional incremental revenue that you should assume -- and you should assume, because of that we gave a forecast of growth with specific low double-digit organic -- so whatever you assume, I would think that it's reasonable to add 50% to the -- 50% to 55% to the gross profit.

  • And then if we assume, of course, it is in Japan, it's lower net profit from that gross profit because of the tax that I explained and minority line.

  • And if you believe it's from Israel, Fab 2, Fab 1, so of course, it's -- everything goes directly to the bottom line, 92.5% of that.

  • And if you believe it's in the States or 80% from that extra gross profit.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Rajvindra Gill of Needham & Company.

  • Rajvindra S. Gill - Senior Analyst

  • Just a follow-up on the organic growth rate of low double digits.

  • So just to clarify, so on the Panasonic business, now that the agreement has been renegotiated last year, we should kind of be looking in the $70 million to $80 million range this year per quarter?

  • And in terms of the Maxim revenue, are there any factors that would have that revenue be down this year, say, versus last year based on the number you gave us?

  • I'm just trying to get a sense of, when you were talking about low double-digit organic growth, if the inorganic business is pretty much going to be flat if there -- or are there going to be other kind of risks there?

  • Oren Shirazi - CFO & Senior VP of Finance

  • Okay.

  • So on Panasonic, you're correct, it's between $70 million to $85 million, but bear in mind that Q1 '19 was still on the previous contract.

  • So obviously, if you're talking about 2020, you have on the baseline $24 million, $22 million, whatever you assume, $20 million.

  • We said between $20 million to $24 million reduction only in Q1 from Panasonic.

  • And then Maxim, we said, like Russell said, it's a 15-year contract gradually decreasing, you can assume a very few million dollars of reduction.

  • But all that is just emphasizing the very good year that we see because we said that even with those, you can call it, $25 million to $30 million total reduction, we expect growth.

  • So of course, we expect to overcome it.

  • And if we follow up on Mark previous question, and reduce from the $1.23 billion, the Panasonic and Maxim revenue that are indicated approximately, you see that low double digits, a significant amount of growth.

  • Rajvindra S. Gill - Senior Analyst

  • And then in the press release, Russell, and also in the prepared remarks, you had mentioned capacity expansions, and you've broken it out into kind of near-term and medium-term to long term.

  • You talked about M&A in the medium to long term.

  • Just wondering, at a high level, if you could maybe discuss what you're thinking about in terms of expanding capacity over the long-term acquisitions?

  • Oren Shirazi - CFO & Senior VP of Finance

  • M&A, what's the M&A...

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • Our big focus there is 300-millimeter capacity growth.

  • We have stated that, I believe, several times.

  • We've talked in the past about the importance of increasing presence and capabilities in China, that has never changed, and on other activities that one would have to move forward with 300-millimeter.

  • I think we're making good progress across several fronts there, not to a point right now of needing to release.

  • And -- but certainly, it remains in a strong direction of the company, a strong direction of our Board of Directors and with very substantial progress is being made.

  • Rajvindra S. Gill - Senior Analyst

  • And last question for me.

  • In terms of -- and I know it's hard to assess, but the growth in RF SOI in mobile last year was pretty strong.

  • We obviously have 5G smartphone kind of ramp going on.

  • Any kind of impact that you're seeing over the last few weeks from your customers related to the coronavirus, the indirect impact that you're seeing?

  • Or just kind of what you might see in the next quarter or so maybe perhaps curtailing the 5G smartphone ramp?

  • Any thoughts there would be helpful.

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • As I stated, we stay very close with our customers.

  • We have not yet seen any substantial reduction in forecasts or pushout of orders.

  • We did within Q1, as stated, have $3 million to $5 million impact.

  • It was coronavirus related.

  • And in that instance, it really dealt with very specific back-end processing and packaging that was impacted because of the reduction -- well, not reduction -- due to the requirements that people would not come back to -- in certain regions to work and stay at home for longer than the Chinese New Year.

  • And so that did have an impact.

  • I don't know that that would continue.

  • It doesn't appear that it is.

  • But that was a $3 million to $5 million impact, and it was from specific directions of people staying home to make sure that they stay safe, and that a spread of the virus remains contained.

  • That is no longer the case, to my understanding, for that specific area.

  • But no, we have really not seen it.

  • I mean it's obvious that things can happen and things that we are not yet aware of, but we have not yet seen any reduction, and that's just the case.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Achal Sultania from Crédit Suisse.

  • Achal Sultania - Director

  • Just 2 questions.

  • First, on the RF mobile side.

  • Obviously, my understanding is that you've got a strong relationship with Skyworks and Qorvo on the RF side.

  • Obviously, with all the U.S.-China trade tensions, it seems like the Chinese companies are looking for alternative suppliers outside of the U.S. in the RF space, specifically.

  • So can you help us understand your exposure in that RF mobile space beyond some of the dominant U.S. players?

  • And then secondly, on the silicon germanium side, can you give us some color around -- my understanding is that your revenues in silicon germanium are trending around $30 million to $40 million a quarter.

  • Is that the right number?

  • And when you talk about growth in 2020, is it fair to assume that first half run rate is similar to what we are seeing currently?

  • And then we see 20% growth from that base as we go into second half of this year?

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • Okay.

  • I'm sorry, could you tell me the number, I missed it.

  • What was the number that you said?

  • Achal Sultania - Director

  • Around $30 million to $35 million per quarter in silicon germanium right now -- during 2019.

  • And that going to, like, do we expect similar numbers in H1 of this year?

  • And then we expect a 20% growth half-over-half as we go into H2 from that base?

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • So on that, let's see.

  • In that range for the first half, correct?

  • And yes, breaking that range in the second half?

  • Exactly correct?

  • Oren Shirazi - CFO & Senior VP of Finance

  • Yes.

  • Yes.

  • And by the way, Russell said the $136 million in his script, that it was actual in 2019.

  • Yes.

  • Achal Sultania - Director

  • Okay, $136 million.

  • Okay, okay.

  • Okay.

  • So that would imply that a lot of that silicon germanium growth is going to be seen not in 2020, but rather in 2021?

  • Oren Shirazi - CFO & Senior VP of Finance

  • Why?

  • The second half of 2020 will have a lot of more revenue in SiGe.

  • And this is why we said that from now, we already see a higher run rate of stock and orders.

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • But you are correct, as the ramp continues in the second half, you see the ramp is pushed out on the revenue side, on the order of 1.5 to 2 quarters, depending on what the start Q is.

  • So you're correct there.

  • We expect that we will continue to see silicon germanium revenue increases in 2021.

  • I did state that in the script as well.

  • But yes, the second half versus the first half, by forecast now, we see a 20% increase.

  • And you know what the revenue rate had been.

  • So I think that that's somewhat realistic.

  • Achal Sultania - Director

  • And the end applications for the silicon germanium, is it automotive radars and mobile RF?

  • Or is it something else as well beyond those two?

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • It is automotive's radar, it is mobile RF, as we stated.

  • But the bigger portions of it are into optical connections for data center and for base station devices.

  • So you're -- that's what we talked about with the 5G deployment.

  • The 5G deployment for the SiGe comes into both SiGe LNAs, but it's -- the bigger portion of it right now, the ramp that we're seeing is for 5G infrastructure, and the data center has been and remains a very big portion of that business.

  • Achal Sultania - Director

  • Okay.

  • And then coming back on the RF question, like the U.S. exposure versus non-U.

  • S. exposure?

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • I think we're very well diversified in the customers that we serve.

  • I mean certainly, in the history, there's press releases between us and Qorvo and us and Skyworks, also between us and Broadcom.

  • We work hard to maintain strong customer relationships with all of our customers, but we also have multiple new friends that have come up and a good portion of our big RF mobile growth, the RF SOI specifically, in 2019 was outside of the U.S. as well as activities for customers inside of the U.S. So I think we're pretty well diversified.

  • It's not that if any given end user in China wanted to move away from -- for whatever reason, from a big U.S. supplier, it's not that we would necessarily lose that business as being the foundry supplier.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Richard Shannon of Craig-Hallum.

  • Richard Cutts Shannon - Senior Research Analyst

  • Let me just open a couple of silicon germanium questions.

  • They're just kind of big picture.

  • You've talked in the past about having a strong market share with that technology, particularly in optical.

  • I think you've even mentioned a number of 60% or so.

  • How do you view your competitive position as you get into the higher speeds, above 100-gig?

  • You talked about 200 and 400 today and even above.

  • Where do you think your competitive position will be going forward?

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • We think very strong, especially as we couple it into very interesting activities with silicon photonics.

  • But yes, the raw SiGe capability is extremely good.

  • We've talked about the H5 platform and of lead customers having taped out into that technology.

  • So at 200-gigabit per second, 400-gig per second capability and to be able to as well to be supporting with photonics chips that have all the benefits of the speed and power reduction, cost reduction by putting everything onto one platform versus a variety of discretes.

  • So I think our competitive position remains very strong.

  • Richard Cutts Shannon - Senior Research Analyst

  • Okay, good to hear.

  • My follow-up, quickly on your comment on silicon photonics.

  • You mentioned -- I don't know if you intended to make a direct tie-in there, but maybe if you can give us a sense of where your competitive position looks there as well.

  • I know there's been a couple of larger foundries or kind of hybrid companies who have historically maybe had more focus there.

  • You announced a very nice customer in Inphi back in December.

  • Where do you think you're positioned there as well?

  • And -- well, actually, I'll just leave it there.

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • I honestly think that we're at the top.

  • I really do.

  • I think programs we have going on there are amazing.

  • So I think we're in an extremely good position.

  • Candidly, I don't want to say things that are out of place because there's activities that are not press released and customers that are not yet press released.

  • But I stated that we have 30 active engagements with 20 customers that have taped out.

  • I think that's in a pretty good spot to have 20 tape-outs at this point or 20 customers that have taped out on SiPho.

  • That's, I think we're -- we have a very good platform.

  • And I think we're acknowledged very strongly in the industry for having, from the foundry perspective, I think, the best platform.

  • Richard Cutts Shannon - Senior Research Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Excellent.

  • Great to hear.

  • Really look forward to hearing more about it the rest of the year.

  • My last question is probably more for Oren.

  • Maybe if you can just give us a sense of your CapEx outlook this year.

  • In the past, you've talked about it being kind of $40 million to $45 million per quarter with some adder from 300-millimeter, and I think it was still within that range in the fourth quarter.

  • So I wonder if you can give us a sense of what you're looking for this year?

  • Oren Shirazi - CFO & Senior VP of Finance

  • Yes.

  • I think it's consistent to previous.

  • But so until this quarter, I mean Q4 '19, we were very stable and always in line with the $170 million per year, so $42 million to $44 million a quarter.

  • And what we said for 2020, in July we published a press release that we will invest additional $100 million for Uozu to satisfy existing customer demand.

  • We have their increasing utilization.

  • And so that's additional $100 million for 2020 that will be paid during the year, you may assume a little bit front.

  • And like Q1, Q2, Q3, 1/3 of that every quarter.

  • And in addition, Russell updated on his script on $20 million for QT9, which also will be paid gradually, I assume Q3, Q4, until the payments will happen, so $10 million each.

  • So overall, for the year, we will have the regular $42 million to $44 million a quarter, plus the $20 million Russell spoke about today, plus the $100 million that we announced in July.

  • Operator

  • We have a follow-up question from Mark Lipacis of Jefferies.

  • Mark John Lipacis - MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • I don't believe you've mentioned this in the call.

  • If you did, my apology, but could you give us an update on your joint venture in China?

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • The joint venture in China?

  • You're referring to the activities in Nanjing from a few years ago?

  • Mark John Lipacis - MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • Yes.

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • I see.

  • And also on that we went ahead, we did our parts.

  • We -- technologies, projects.

  • The building was completed, we were never an investor in the project.

  • And you talked about a joint venture.

  • I don't know that it was a joint venture, but it was certainly an activity that we were involved in, that we were going to get capacity out of as well as net cash.

  • We get involved, we did certain of our milestones.

  • We were paid for our milestones.

  • I believe that we had released that.

  • And the -- ultimately, the group that was going to be the owner of the factory, they did not provide their funding.

  • The Nanjing government came through on its side.

  • So at this point, there is a building that exists.

  • It hasn't been a (inaudible).

  • It's a government that wishes to move forward.

  • There's still discussions going on with various investor groups.

  • And we're involved as a technology provider for -- that could go forward.

  • But at this point, there's been no progress as far as a replacement of the previous company that was the owner company for the project.

  • So...

  • Mark John Lipacis - MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Got you.

  • So there's no -- for the foreseeable future, we shouldn't expect any capacity, you guys have any excess capacity or extra capacity from that facility?

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • No.

  • But it's also at this point, not a capacity that we needed.

  • That deal was, for us, a very, very different type of the deal.

  • We weren't involved in it necessarily for capacity.

  • We were involved in it for a capacity to enable a specific deal with a very, very good customer that we have, that would have allowed an ability to transfer a technology that we wouldn't have put in others of our factories that could have gone in there under a win-win circumstance for Tacoma, for ourselves and for the customer.

  • And as well, we were involved in it from a technology licensing and advisory roles, but it wasn't because we needed raw 200-millimeter capacity out of that factory.

  • That's a very different activity than something we would be going after in China in the 300-millimeter node.

  • To where in a 300 millimeter, it's capacity that we'd be very interested in, and we would not be getting involved as a technology provider, we'd be getting involved, were we to be moving forward in that type of an activity, we'd be getting involved as the company that would ultimately be the majority owner.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Lisa Thompson of Zacks Investment Research.

  • Lisa R. Thompson - Senior Technology Analyst

  • I just have one big picture question.

  • So with the continuing like battle with Huawei and up into the point of actually trying to get Taiwan Semiconductor to stop selling them chips, is that changing anything in your planet?

  • Or possibly affecting just the overall deployment of 5G?

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • I don't -- well, we do not ship anything directly to Huawei.

  • They're not a direct customer of ours.

  • There are probably no restrictions for manufacturing certain parts outside of the U.S. from customers of ours that are not U.S. companies, for them to ship to Huawei.

  • And I think that that's perfectly fine.

  • We do not have any adverse implications from anything happening with Huawei.

  • But again, we are -- we have manufacturing facilities throughout the world.

  • Lisa R. Thompson - Senior Technology Analyst

  • Okay.

  • So you don't really think it's going to disrupt the entire deployment in the whole industry?

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • No.

  • Operator

  • There are no further questions at this time.

  • Mr. Ellwanger, would you like to make a concluding statement?

  • Russell C. Ellwanger - CEO & Director

  • Yes.

  • So again, I thank everybody for their interest.

  • I know that in light of some recent announcements that there's maybe a darkening, looking at the industry at the moment, but we really are very optimistic going into the year.

  • We see very good activities having occurred in 2019 against multiple headwinds that now seem to be dissipating themselves.

  • And those activities are driving very good revenue projections for this year.

  • The -- we see it as a year where we'll have overall revenue growth.

  • And as stated, double-digit organic revenue growth and a recovery in several of the high-margin areas, where Oren is very optimistic about not just utilization numbers going up and what that means on margins, but as far as the richness of the mix going up.

  • So the year looks very, very positive for us.

  • We look forward to meeting with investors and analysts face-to-face.

  • We are scheduling an Investor and Analyst Day at the NASDAQ building in New York on March 31st a.m.

  • Sign-up will shortly be available on our website, but we do wish to note one thing.

  • This event, although scheduled and although it will be signed up for, it may be postponed according to updated travel and/or health advisories.

  • But bar that, we really look forward to seeing everyone on the call and people that weren't able to make the call at the NASDAQ event on March 31st and look forward to the interactions.

  • So thank you very, very much.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • This concludes the TowerJazz Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2019 Results Conference Call.

  • Thank you for your participation.

  • You may go ahead and disconnect.