TrustCo Bank Corp NY (TRST) 2025 Q3 法說會逐字稿

Good day, and welcome to TrustCo Bank Corp earnings call and webcast. (Operator Instructions) Before proceeding, we would like to mention this presentation may contain forward-looking information about TrustCo Bank Corp New York that is intended to be covered by the Safe Harbor for forward-looking statements provided by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Actual results, performance or achievements could differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements due to various risks, uncertainties and other factors. More detailed information about these other risk factors can be found in our press release that preceded this call, and in the risk factors and forward-looking statements section of our annual report on Form 10-K and as updated by our quarterly reports on Form 10-Q.

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At this time, I'd like to turn the conference call over to Mr. Robert J. McCormick, Chairman, President and CEO. Please go ahead.

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining the call. I'm Rob McCormick, President of TrustCo Bank. I'm joined today, as usual, by Mike Ozimek, our CFO, who will go through the numbers; and Kevin Curley, our Chief Banking Officer, who will talk about lending. It is often said that actions speak louder than words. TrustCo's performance this quarter and year-to-date speaks volumes about the tactical effective application of our corporate strategic vision.

TrustCo Bank's mission is to deliver the best possible loan and deposit products, making the dream of home ownership come true for customers who we treat with respect. It is a fundamental principle of our company that loans are underwritten with professionalism and care to ensure fair lending outcomes and solid credit quality. This is true both in our residential and commercial lending areas.

Looking back just five years, we have never exceeded annualized net charge-offs of more than 0.02% compared to our average loan portfolio. Throughout this year, our strong customer relations have enabled us to grow deposits and loans while holding the line on cost of funds as the loan portfolio repriced. All of these elements have combined to generate these stellar financial results that we proudly announce today. Both our profitability and efficiencies improved greatly over the quarter compared to this time last year.

Our return on average assets increased 21.4%. Return on average equity grew 20%, and our efficiency ratio decreased by almost 9%. This is all done while staying focused on high-quality underwriting standards and loan processing functions, sticking to our lending philosophy by never sacrificing credit quality. We improved our non-performing loans to total loans by 5% over the quarter, and our coverage ratio increased to over 280%, up 9% from the third quarter last year.

Also part of our long-standing TrustCo tradition that we do not rest upon our successes. Throughout this year, our management team has demonstrated that we are not satisfied with simply delivering outstanding corporate performance in the present term. We always have an eye on building long-term shareholder value. Toward that end, we sought and received approval to repurchase 1 million shares of our company's stock. So far, we have repurchased nearly half of that number.

Further, we anticipate that the company will complete the currently authorized buyback and expect to seek approval for further substantial repurchase. It is our view that the stock is significantly undervalued and presents an outstanding investment opportunity without exposing us to the risks inherent with other investments. We could not be more pleased with the driving corporate value in a safe, sound and strategically purposeful manner.

Now Mike will go over the details with the numbers and some impressive numbers. Mike?

Thank you, Rob, and good morning, everyone. I will now review TrustCo's financial results for the third quarter of 2025. As we noted in the press release, once again, the company saw strong financial results for the third quarter of 2025, marked by increases in both net income and net interest income of TrustCo Bank during the third quarter of '25 compared to the third quarter of 2024. This performance is underscored by rising net interest income, continued margin expansion and sustained loan and deposit growth across key portfolios.

This resulted in third quarter net income of $16.3 million, an increase of 26.3% over the prior year quarter, which yielded a return on average assets and average equity of 1.02% and 9.29%, respectively. Capital remains strong. Consolidated equity to assets ratio was 10.90% for the third quarter of 2025 compared to 10.95% in the third quarter of 2024. Book value per share at September 30, 2025, was $37.30, up 6% compared to $35.19 a year earlier.

During the third quarter of 2025, TrustCo repurchased 298,000 shares of common stock under the previously announced stock repurchase program, resulting in 467,000 shares repurchased year-to-date, and we have the ability to repurchase another 533,000 shares under the repurchase program. And as always, we remain committed to returning value to shareholders through a disciplined share repurchase program, which reflects our confidence in the long-term strength of the franchise and our focus on capital optimization.

Credit quality continues to improve as we saw nonperforming loans decline to $18.5 million in the third quarter of 2025 from $19.4 million in the third quarter of 2024. Additionally, non-performing loans to total loans also decreased to 0.36% in the third quarter of 2025 from 0.38% in the third quarter of 2024. Non-performing assets to total assets also reduced to 0.31% in the third quarter of '25 compared to 0.36% in the third quarter of '24. Our continued focus on solid underwriting within our loan portfolio and conservative lending standards positions us to manage credit risk effectively in the current environment.

Average loans for the third quarter of 2025 grew 2.5% or $125.9 million to $5.2 billion from the third quarter of '24, an all-time high. Consequently, overall loan growth has continued to increase and leading the charge was home equity credit lines portfolio, which increased by $59.9 million or 15.7% in the third quarter of '25 over the same period in '24. The residential real estate portfolio increased $34 million or 0.8% of average commercial loans, which also increased $34.6 million or 12.4% over the same period in 2024. This uptick continues to reflect a strong local economy and increased demand for credit.

For the third quarter of 2025, the provision for credit losses was $250,000. Retaining deposits has been a key focus as we navigate through 2025. Total deposits ended the quarter at $5.5 billion and was up $217 million compared to the prior year quarter. We believe the increase in these deposits compared to the same period in 2024 continues to indicate strong customer confidence in the bank's competitive deposit offerings. The bank's continued emphasis on relationship banking, combined with competitive product offerings and digital capabilities has continued to a stable deposit base that supports ongoing loan growth and expansion.

Net interest income was $43.1 million for the third quarter of 2025, an increase of $4.4 million or 11.5% compared to the prior year quarter. Net interest margin for the third quarter of '25 was 2.79%, up 18 basis points from the prior year quarter. The yield on interest-earning assets increased to 4.25%, up 14 basis points from the prior year quarter. And the cost of interest-bearing liabilities decreased to 1.9% in the third quarter of '25 from 1.94% in the third quarter of '24.

The bank is well positioned to continue delivering strong net interest income performance even as the Federal Reserve signals a continued potential easing cycle in the months ahead. The bank remains committed to maintaining competitive deposit offerings while ensuring financial stability and continued support for our community's banking needs. Our Wealth Management division continues to be a significant recurring source of non-interest income. They had approximately $1.25 billion of assets under management as of September 30, '25.

Non-interest income attributable to wealth management and financial services fees represent 41.9% of non-interest income. The majority of this fee income is recurring, supported by long-term advisory relationships and a growing base of managed assets. Now on to non-interest expense. Total non-interest expense net of ORE expense came in at $26.2 million, down $42,000 from the prior year quarter. ORE expense net came in at an expense of $8,000 for the quarter as compared to $204,000 in the prior year quarter.

We are going to continue to hold the anticipated level of ORE expense to not exceed $250,000 per quarter. All the other categories of non-interest expense were in line with our expectations for the third quarter.

Now Kevin will review the loan portfolio and non-performing loans.

Thanks, Mike, and good morning to everyone. Our loans grew by $125.9 million or 2.5% year over year. The growth was centered on our home equity loans, which increased by $59.9 million or 15.7% over last year and residential mortgages, which increased by $34 million. In addition, our commercial loans grew by $34.6 million or 12.4% over last year.

For the second quarter, actual loans increased by $35.1 million as total residential loans grew by $38.5 million and commercial loans were slightly lower for the quarter. Overall, residential activity is picking up, and we are seeing additional refinance volume as mortgage rates remain in the 6% range. Our home equity lending also continues to grow steadily as customers continue to use their equity for home improvements, education expenses or paying off higher cost loans such as credit cards.

In all our markets, rates have fluctuated within a 25 basis points range with our current 30-year fixed rate mortgage at 6.125%. In addition, our home equity products are very competitive with rates starting below 6.75%. Our products are well situated across our markets as we are ready to capture more growth as activity picks up. As a portfolio lender, we have the flexibility to manage pricing and implement targeted promotions to increase loan volume. Overall, we are encouraged by the loan growth in the quarter and remain focused on driving stronger results moving forward.

Moving to asset quality. Asset quality of the bank remains very strong. At TrustCo, we work hard to maintain strong credit quality throughout our loan portfolio. As a portfolio lender, we have consistently used prudent underwriting standards to build our loan portfolio. Our residential loans originated in-house, focusing on key underwriting factors that have proven to lead to sound credit decisions. These loans are originated with the intent to be held in our portfolio for the full term rather than originated for sale. In addition, we have no foreign or subprime loans in our residential portfolio.

In our commercial loan portfolio, which makes up just about 6% of our total loans, we focus on relationship-based loans secured mostly by real estate within our primary market areas. We also avoid concentrations of credit to any single borrower or business and continue to require personal guarantees on all our loans. Overall, our disciplined underwriting approach has produced strong credit quality across our entire loan portfolio. Here are the key metrics.

Our early-stage delinquencies for our portfolio continue to be steady. Charge-offs for the quarter amounted to a net recovery of $176,000, which follows a net recovery of $9,000 in the second quarter and $258,000 in the recovery in the first quarter, totaling a year-to-date net recovery of $443,000. Non-performing loans were $18.5 million at this quarter end, $17.9 million last quarter and $19.4 million a year ago.

Non-performing loans to total loans was 0.36% at this quarter end compared to 0.35% last quarter and 0.38% a year ago. Non-performing assets were $19.7 million at quarter end versus $19 million last quarter and $21.9 million a year ago. At quarter end, allowance for credit losses remained solid at $51.9 million with a coverage ratio of 281% compared to $51.3 million with a coverage ratio of 286% at year-end and $49.95 million with a coverage ratio of 257% a year ago.

Bob.

That's our story. We're happy to answer any questions you might have.

(Operator Instructions)

Ian Lapey, Gabelli Funds.

Rob and team, congratulations on the great financial results. I was hoping maybe you could quantify a little bit. The release mentions that you expect meaningful net interest income upside for quarters to come. You mentioned the rates on the fixed rate and home equity. What about the CDs that are going to be maturing over the next quarter? What's sort of the average rate for that compared to what you're paying on new CDs that you're issuing?

The highest rate we're offering right now, Ian, is 4%, and that's a three month rate. And there's about $1 billion in CDs that are coming due over the next six months, four to six months. So we expect -- based on what happens with the Fed and some competition, we would expect there should be opportunity in that CD portfolio to reprice.

What's roughly the average -- so for the $1 billion coming due, what is the average roughly rate on those?

The average rate on the $1 billion coming due is about 3.75%.

3.75%. Okay. And then on the recoveries, obviously, very impressive. I was just hoping you could unpack that a little bit. For example, for the quarter in New York, you had $194,000 in recoveries. Just curious, like how many homes typically would that relate to? Is this just a function of borrowers defaulting with significant equity still in the home? Maybe you can just explain a little bit --

A lot of that, as you can imagine, Ian -- as you can imagine, in the real estate market, upstate is still very, very strong, and there's still great demand with relatively limited inventory. So a lot of the transactions happen before we even end up taking the property back, which is the best possible scenario. But the $194,000 is probably around five properties that we've taken back. And I think there was one commercial property in there and four residentials.

Okay. Great. And then I guess my only follow-up, my only remaining question. So it looked like branches were flat at 136 sequentially. What are you thinking about in terms of expansion, if at all? And would Florida still be sort of your targeted range for growth?

We're looking at -- well, Pasco County is something that we're very interested in, Ian. I'm sure you're tracking this, but on the West Coast of Florida, because of development and prices and things like that, people are being pushed further and further out from Tampa. So we're seeing opportunity in loan demand in Pasco County.

And then there are a couple of other infill locations that we would like to find something in Florida. But we are pretty cheap people, so we want the right transaction if we can in the right location. So -- and then there's always opportunity throughout Downstate New York as things open up there as well. So those would be the two opportunities we're seeing right now.

(Operator Instructions)

We currently have no further questions at this time. Now I'd like to turn the conference back to Robert J. McCormick for any closing remarks.

Thank you for your interest in our company, and we hope you have a great day. Thank you.

The conference call has now concluded. Thank you very much for attending. You may now disconnect your lines.