Taseko Mines Ltd (TGB) 2025 Q1 法說會逐字稿

Thank you for standing by and welcome to the Taseko Mines first quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions)

As a reminder, today's program is being recorded, and now I'd like to introduce your host for today's program, Brian Bergot, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Thank you, Jonathan. Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining Taseko's first quarter 2025 conference call. The news release and regulatory filing announcing our financial and operational results was issued yesterday after market closed and is available on our website at www.tasekomines.com and on Cedar Plus.

I am joined today in Vancouver by Taseko's President and CEO, Stuart McDonald, Taseko's Chief Financial Officer, Bryce Hamming, and our COO, Richard Tremblay.

As usual, before we get into opening remarks by management, I would like to remind our listeners that our comments and answers to your questions will contain forward-looking information. This information by its nature is subject to risks and uncertainties. As such, actual results may differ materially from the views expressed today.

For further information on these risks and uncertainties, I encourage you to read the cautionary note that accompanies our first quarter MDNA and the related news release, as well as the risk factors particular to our company. These documents can be found on our website and also on Cedar Plus.

I would also like to point out we will use various non-GAAP measures during the call. You can find explanations and reconciliations regarding these measures in the related news release.

And finally, all dollar amounts we will discuss today are in CAD unless otherwise specified. Following opening remarks, we'll open the phone lines to analysts and investors for questions. I'll now turn the call over to Stuart for his remarks.

Great, thank you, Brian, and welcome everyone to our first quarter conference call. As usual, I'll start with a business overview of our key activities and operational results in the quarter. And then turn the call over to Bryce for a more detailed review of the financial performance.

So, starting with Florence or Florence Copper project, we just issued a project update last week confirming everything is moving forward on time and on budget. Good progress continues to be made with construction activities at site, and we remain on schedule to produce first copper before the end of this year.

In the well field as of this week, we only have two wells left to drill. So, we have 88 out of 90 productions while it's completed. And all18 of the point of compliance wells are also done. We've ramped down to just one drill remaining on site and that one will be finishing up in the next few weeks. This is a great accomplishment is obviously the well field is a critical aspect of the overall project.

In the SX/EW plant area we also have a lot of activity in progress, and all critical path items are moving forward on schedule. The installation of the electrowinning crane was completed in Q1, which allowed for the final wall and roof panels to be installed, completing the building structure.

Current areas of folks include installation of electrical and piping equipment, completing completion of the substation facility. And ongoing work on the pipe corridor to connect the plant to the well field.

In the coming months as key systems are completed, progressive commissioning and testing will occur at the same time. As the final construction activities. And in the fall, we expect to commence well field operations and initial injection which sets us up for first copper cathode production before the end of the year.

We continue to advance initiatives for operational readiness. Recruiting is going well by next week we'll have over 100 employees on site. We're also close to finalizing our first asset supply contract for the initial injection and pre-leaching period later this year.

It's been ten years since we acquired the Florence project and we're now less than nine months from producing first cathodes. It's been a long process to get where we are today. But I think the outcome is going to be well worth the wait for all our shareholders and other stakeholders.

Florence is one of the few copper projects in the world currently under construction, and it will be a major new supplier of refined copper cathode for the US market. The potential for US import tariffs on copper is further evidence of the unique value that we have in this asset.

The comex copper price yesterday was about 14% higher than the LME price, and the project has the potential to benefit from this premium in the future.

Now on to Gibraltar where we produced 20 million pounds of copper in the first quarter, C1 cost of 226 per pound. Copper sales of 22 million pounds at a realized price of USD424 per pound generated adjusted EBITDA of CAD34 million in cash flows from operations of CAD56 million.

Mill throughput ran above design capacity at an average rate just under 88,000 tons per day. Head grade of 0.19% was in line with our expectations as a significant portion of the milk feed was from lower grade stockpiles as planned.

However, copper recoveries dropped to 68% as the impact of oxidized ore was more significant than anticipated. So, our overall production in the quarter was about 10% lower than we expected.

Our original plan had higher grade or coming from the deeper benches of the connector pit beginning in the second quarter after the initial waste stripping was completed.

Unfortunately, challenging mining conditions at the top of the current connector pit pushback has impacted truck and shovel productivities, so we will not get to the higher grades now until the third quarter.

Second quarter production is expected to be similar to the first quarter and then we will see a step change in production in the second half with average grades above Gibraltar's reserve average and these good grades should continue into 2026.

As a result of all this, we expect 2025 production to be approximately 10 million pounds lower than our previous guidance of 120 million to 130 million pounds.

The refurbishment of Gibraltar's SX/EW plant and restart plants have made good progress and we expect first cathode production later in the second quarter. The plan is to produce about 3 million or 4 million pounds of capital this year. It will be a seasonal operation, but a lot of copper oxide ore has been stacked and we expect the leech pad to run for many years into the future.

Last but not least, a brief update on our yellowhead copper project, which we believe represents an important long term growth option for the company. Continuing to work closely with BC government and the first nation on project permitting initiatives. The Yellowhead mine would be a major producer with 180 million pounds of copper production annually over a 25-year mine life.

I would make it the second largest copper mine in Canada. We're planning to publish a new technical report this summer which will incorporate updated metal pricing costing. And then also the new Canadian tax credits are available for copper mine development and have the potential to positively impact the economics as well.

So, with that I'll pass the call over to Bryce.

Thanks Stuart. Good morning, everyone. I'll provide some additional color on our first quarter financial performance for the quarter, we sold 22 million of copper at an average realized price of 424 per pound, generating revenues of CAD139 million.

As we fix most of our prices with our customers before ships depart, we don't have a lot of QP price adjustments in the quarter or following the quarter end, which helps us manage copper price volatility.

We posted a GAAP net loss of CAD29 million or CAD0.09 per share for the quarter. Lower quarterly production and higher costs were the main contributors to the loss.

As well as a CAD24 million unrealized derivative and fair value adjustment, and that was from reversing the large mark to market gain shown in December and this reversal was due to rising copper prices in Q1.

On an adjusted basis after removing this unrealized loss, we posted in that loss of CAD7 million or CAD0.02 loss per share. Total site cost for the quarter were CAD107 million which is in line with previous quarters and is similar to our expectations on a quarterly run rate for the year.

Capitalized stripping costs in the quarter were markedly higher at CAD38 million this is attributed to the connector pit pushback and higher strip ratio of 4.6 to 1, which meant processing a much higher percentage of stockpiled material above the pit average strip ratio. These costs should begin to taper in the second quarter. We don't expect much capitalized stripping in the second half as we release, increases from the connector pit.

On a per unit basis, costs in the quarter were CAD2.26 per pound of copper produced. This is lower quarter over quarter and year over year as a result of the higher capitalized stripping costs I mentioned, but also lower TCRCs.

Which now average to a nominal amount for this year under our new favorable off day contracts we also saw increased millennium sales volumes and a stronger US dollar in the quarter, and that was offset by our lower production.

Adjusted EBITDA in the first quarter was TCRC34 million lower than previous quarters and again due to the decreased production sales volumes.

At Florence we incurred a total of CAD57 million US dollars of costs in the quarter, and most of that was directly related to the commercial facility construction as well as CAD6 million that was associated with site operations and completion of the re the rinsing tests which we're finishing up this quarter.

Given we are now 80% complete, construction capital spending will begin to taper down going forward as the peak spending is behind us. Today we have incurred CAD206 million of the construction capital. We continue to expect final capital to be within 15% of our 2023 estimate of CAD230 million.

We ended the quarter with CAD121 million of cash, and we have available liquidity at the end of the quarter of CAD279 million after factoring in our undrawn, revolving credit facility. We did draw CAD25 million against this credit facility after the quarter at to support working capital.

Finally, given volatility and copper, just want to highlight in addition to fixing our prices at the time of shipment, we also have our price protection for the year. It covers the balance of the year and it protects, CAD4 per pound minimum floor price for most of our production for 81 million pounds. These are callers and they're based on LME prices, and they cover the next three quarters and that gives us all the upside up to 540 per pound.

So, with that I'll turn it over to the operator thank you.

(Operator Instructions)

Craig Hutchison, TD Cowen.

Hi, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my question.

Just wondering if you could provide some more contexts on the issues you're encountering in Gibraltar with respect to the ground conditions, what are some of the issues. Is it just, maybe use smaller trucks or any context on that and when do you expect to be through that.

Yes, Craig, Richard here, so the upper benches in connector pit with the pioneering and kind of set up mining were all around the overburden that had to get mined out before we could access down in the cockpit rock and that overburden proved to be a lot more challenging than was originally envisioned and required a lot of rock to be basically. Placed in improving ground conditions to allow the equipment to access the digfa as well as the dump, properly we've progressed through that and they're now seeing our expectations on the mining are kind of being met now so, but it has delayed us in Q1.

Okay, and then the issues around the oxidized stockpiles. Will that be a factor again in in Q2. Should we assume recoveries or could be kind of similar to Q1, both grades and recoveries, I guess.

Yes, and that's why I think as Stewart indicated production levels will be comparable to Q1, so that's been kind of factored into that forward look in the reduction of guidance for the year essentially.

Okay. Great thanks. And then just on Florence, I know Gibraltar is not impacted by tariffs, but you, you're probably importing stuff from overseas at Florence. Any sense in terms of what that might have an impact whether it's on finishing the capital here or just on cost going forward or what's most sensitive in terms of cost of Florence with regards to tariffs. Thanks.

Yes, Hi Craig, it's Stuart here in terms of the capital projects, there's no impact from any import tariff and I guess the reason for that is because we've got all of our supplies and equipment already inside the US mostly already on site or else a few things that other fabricator in the US so that's not an issue at all.

Speaking about longer term operating costs, obviously it's a pretty volatile environment, with the tariff picture is still in flux and changing every couple weeks, so wouldn't want to make any comments about, what our impact might be in 26 or 27 but yes, it's we'll do with something we're just monitoring, obviously the biggest. Input cost or operating costs going forward will be sulfuric acid that's a lot of that is also sourced from within the US, so that's probably as much as I would say on it at this time.

Okay, thanks guys I'll jump back in the queue.

Thank you and as a reminder ladies and gentlemen, if you do have a question at this time, please press 11 on your telephone.

And we've got a follow up from the line of Craig Hutchison from TD Cowen. Your question, please.

Any updates on new prosperity, any kind of plans to kind of any potential breakthroughs there on that project.

Nothing, and no real updates beyond what we've kind of disclosed that, we've made very good progress there's been a constructive dialogue, and we think we're close to a resolution but no, nothing that I can really say beyond that. But. it's looking positive.

Okay, all right, thanks guys.

Certainly, thank you and this does include the question-and-answer session of today's program. I'd like to hand the program back to Taseko Mines Management.

Great, okay, thanks everyone. Well, yes, we'll wrap up the call here and obviously if there are other questions feel free to reach out to us and otherwise, we will talk to you next quarter. Thank You.

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.