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Operator
Good morning, and welcome to the Techne Corporation's earnings conference call for its fiscal year third-quarter 2014.
(Operator Instructions)
I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Jim Hippel, Chief Financial Officer.
- CFO
Good morning, and thank you all for joining us as we discuss the results of our third quarter. With me this morning is Chuck Kummeth, Chief Executive Officer of Techne Corporation.
But before we begin, let me briefly cover our Safe Harbor statement. Some of the remarks made during this conference call may be considered forward-looking statements. The Company's 10-K for FY13, and the 10-Q that will be filed for the fiscal quarter ended March 31, 2014, identify certain factors that could cause the Company's actual results to differ materially from those projected in any forward-looking statements made during this call. The Company does not undertake to update any forward-looking statements as a result of any new information, or future events or developments. The 10-K and 10-Q, as well as the Company's other SEC filings, are available on the Company's website within its Investor Relations section.
During the call, non-GAAP financial measures may be used to provide information pertinent to ongoing business performance. Tables reconciling these measures to most comparable GAAP measures are available in the Company's press release issued earlier this morning, or on the Techne Corporation website at www.techne-corp.com.
So, with that, I will turn the call over to Chuck.
- CEO
Thanks. Good morning, and thank you for joining us today for our Q3 call. As stated in this morning's press release, I'm extremely pleased with the results for the quarter, and the progress we have made year to date. Our team has executed very well, matching the overall organic growth rates we saw back in Q1.
The US held up well, despite some severe weather conditions in the quarter, and despite the continued spending pressure in the academic market. Europe's growth was just outstanding at near 8%. The PacRim continues to be strong in low double digits. And while China struggled with some tough comps in January, they finished the quarter with strong growth rates. I am still expecting China to end the year near 30% growth, coming off the strong commercial investments we made.
Gross margins have remained solid, and expenses are within our plans, as we continue to invest in new people, leaders, systems and technologies. We continue to execute on our strategy of delivering innovative core products to customers, over 1,300 year to date, and in expanding geographies. Our progress and results in Q3 and year to date, while a great improvement over last year, are closer to the beginning of this journey than to the end.
Now I would like to introduce our new CFO, Jim Hippel, who started with the Company the 1st of April. He is on the call today, as he mentioned starting out, and will provide a review of our financial results for third quarter. I will then address several recent events, and be open to your questions.
Jim, I turn it over to you.
- CFO
Thanks, Chuck. It's great to be here, and again, good morning, everyone. I'll begin with an overview of our Q3 and year-to-date financial performance for the total Company, followed by some color on each of our two segments.
So, starting with the overall financial performance: We delivered a solid third quarter, with adjusted earnings of $34.7 million, or $0.94 per diluted share. That's a 6.9% increase over adjusted EPS of $0.88 in the third fiscal quarter of 2013. This brings our Q3 year-to-date adjusted earnings to 92.2 -- $92.9 million, or $2.51 per diluted share, an increase of 5.8% from the prior fiscal year-to-date period.
As detailed in our press release, adjusted earnings and adjusted earnings per share exclude acquisition-related costs. These are costs such as intangible asset amortization, costs recognized upon the sale of inventory that was written up to fair value, and professional fees related to ongoing acquisition activity. Also excluded are prior-year tax research credits that expired December 31, 2013, as well as a prior-year reduction in US taxes that changes [and] estimates related to foreign source income.
On the top line, Q3 total revenue was $95.6 million, an increase of 18% year over year, and we delivered 5% organic growth. Q3 reported revenue includes 11.5% growth from our acquisition of Bionostics back in July, and about a 1% impact from foreign exchange. On a year-to-date basis, revenue now stands at $265.2 million, an increase of 15% year over year, with nearly 4% of that coming from organic growth.
Moving on to the details of the P&L, total Company adjusted gross margin came in at 73.6% in the current quarter. That's down about 410 basis points from the prior year, due to the mix change associated with the acquisition of Bionostics last July. Excluding Bionostics, gross margins were essentially flat to last year.
SG&A in Q3 was 15.3% of revenue, 300 basis points more than the 2013 quarter. Approximately a third of this basis point increase is associated with the acquisition of Bionostics. The remaining two-thirds of the increase is the result of the commercial and leadership investments made earlier in the year.
Finally, R&D expense came in at 8% of revenue for the quarter; that's 90 basis points below the prior year. The additional R&D spend resulting from the Bionostics acquisition, as well as some other development projects, was more than offset by the volume leverage seen from higher sales.
Turning to cash flow on the balance sheet, the headline numbers for Q3 are $34.9 million in cash generated from operations in the quarter, and $371 million of cash and available for sale investments at quarter end. We continue to have no debt.
During Q3, we invested $4.3 million in capital expenditures, and returned $11.4 million to our shareholders in the form of dividends. That wraps up my comments on the total Company.
Now I'll walk you through the revenue performance of our two business segments, starting with the biotechnology segment. As a reminder, this is the larger of our two segments, which develops, manufactures and sells biotechnology research and diagnostic products worldwide. It sells products under the R&D Systems, Tocris, Boston Biochem, and BiosPacific brands.
The biotechnology segment reported $80.1 million of revenue and 5% organic growth in Q3. About 53% of biotech sales were generated in the United States during the first nine months of the fiscal year. Within the US, the two biggest US customer groups for biotech are the industrial market, which includes pharmaceutical and biotechnology companies of all sizes, and the economic research market.
Sales to US industrial customers in biotech grew 4% in Q3. This is consistent with the year-to-date performance, and it's fifth quarter in a row in improving sales. Sales to US academic customers declined 12% in Q3 compared to last year. This decline is consistent with what we've seen for a couple of years, and as is widely known, the US academic market is highly dependent on funding from the National Institute of Health, whose budget was drastically cut well over a year ago. Sales to US academic customers now only comprise 12% of biotech's total revenue.
Europe is our other major biotech market. About 29% of our biotech sales were derived from this region so far this year. Like the US, the major customer groups in Europe are the academic market and the industrial market, which include pharma and biotech companies. Sales in Europe rebounded from Q2, reporting a healthy 8% organic growth in Q3.
Regionally within Europe, Germany posted a strong 20% organic growth. France was solid with mid-single digit organic growth, and the UK experienced low single-digit organic growth. The industrial customer group led the growth in Europe, posting organic growth rates in the mid-teens while academic customers grew modestly in the low single digits.
Moving on to biotech sales in China: China experienced an expected tough comparable in the month of January, which limited their organic growth rate to 2% for Q3. However, the China team was essentially on their internal target for the quarter, and experienced growth rates in February and March that were more comparable to Q2. China is an integral part of the Company's growth strategy, and with the investments we made earlier in the year by expanding our sales staff, we expect future growth rates to increase beyond the 20% annual growth rates we've experienced since we established operations there in FY06.
Generating an approximately 10% of the biotechnology segment's revenue, Pacific Rim is another strategically important region for the Company. Our organic sales increased by 12% in Q3. Here, increased management focus and distributor collaboration in the region are paying off. The leading countries in this region are Japan, Korea and Taiwan.
Now switching gears to our other segment, clinical controls: As a reminder, this segment develops and manufactures controls and calibrators for sale worldwide. It sells products under the R&D Systems and Bionostics brands. The clinical controls segment reported $15.4 million of revenue and 7% organic growth in Q3. Organic growth here excludes revenue from Bionostics subsequent to the acquisition. The increase is driven by strong demand for its products, and solid execution of the team.
So with that, I will turn the call back over to Chuck for some additional comments.
- CEO
Thanks, Jim. I'd like to add a few supplemental comments regarding our financial results for the third quarter of FY14 in the markets we serve. I will also make a few comments regarding our commercial and investment activity, and a couple regarding the progress we're making with our strategic plan.
I want to give you an update on the Fisher collaboration we began about a quarter ago. While still early and difficult to quantify the impact of the Fisher arrangement on some of our great results this quarter, we are confident we had some lift due to this. The teams are working well together. We have succeeded in linking our systems, and customers are reacting positive to the collaboration.
I fully expect our growth to improve due to this arrangement, and view this as a win-win for both companies. Fisher benefits from this relationship because, when they lead an account with high-value content like R&D Systems, they have the opportunity to dialogue with the senior people in the labs and pull through many of the product lines.
We also continue to expand our [KOL] network under the leadership of our new CTO, Dr. Fernando Bazan. We're focusing on areas in stem cell, cancer, immunology, enzymatics, disease biology and many others.
Very encouraging that we have over 40 researchers, all global and well-known in the field, collaborating with our scientists now. This is important for long-term organic growth since it is the key to innovation in our business and very typical in the industry.
Two weeks ago, we completed an initial investment in CyVek, a start-up instrument company based in Connecticut. CyVek has developed a new multi-analyte immunoassay testing platform. Our large antibody content, along with our expertise in immunoassay development, perfectly complements CyVek's advances in microfluidics and sensor technology to ensure high precision and sensitivity in test performance.
The CyPlex System has some unique features and benefits that some of our customers have been requesting. While this product will be formally launched in the Fall, it is already undergoing rigorous beta testing at several large academic and industrial laboratories, and was introduced to the field at the recent AACR meeting and on the R&D Systems homepage, garnering great interest from both academic and industrial attendees.
This is a very exciting opportunity that promises to build further relationships with clinical, academic and biopharma labs. With milestones achieved, we fully intend to acquire the remainder of the company in the next 15 months.
You may have also seen a press release last week announcing our acquisition of PrimeGene, an agile protein reagent startup in Shanghai with 50 employees and over 400 products. This acquisition allows us to have manufacturing capabilities in China to make product for the Chinese market.
Additionally, PrimeGene's low-cost products will serve as a fighter brand to help us compete more effectively, both in China and worldwide without diluting the R&D System's brand. The PrimeGene team is technically strong and ambitious group, and will work well with our existing China sales team.
While small at the moment, PrimeGene is growing over 30% a year, with rates comparable to our organic growth in China with the investments we've made in people so far. With our technical and marketing help and global reach, there is plenty of upside to this investment.
As I have indicated at different investor meetings and conferences, we are a company that's trying to change to become more visible and more vocal with the strategy, direction and results in this business. We see changes in the industry regarding academic and industrial spending, and we are addressing this. We see shifts to new technologies like multiplexing, and we are addressing them.
We are very focused on getting our commercial process strengthened. The investments in China and in the US have been critical to regain our inorganic growth trajectory. I believe innovation to be the long-term success factor in a science-driven company like ours. And we have make made big steps to ensure we follow a set of product roadmaps that leverage our best technical platforms.
Our new Chief Technology Officer has been a road warrior, creating strong new collaborations with key opinion leaders around the world. And with 130 PhDs and hundreds of researchers across our Company, we will protect our strong franchise in areas like proteins, antibodies and assays that researchers have long known us for and come to need our assistance for. Building now on that franchise with other platforms and brands like Tocris and PrimeGene and others is a natural and logical strategy to follow.
My last comment is that we continue to attract great talent. And I see a bright future in this business given the increasing needs in healthcare, and the need to continue to understand human biological processes which can shed light onto many pathologies. I think with that, I'll turn back to Alicia, our moderator, who can now give directions for the Q&A portion of this call. Thank you.
Operator
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Dan Leonard, Leerink Partners.
- Analyst
A question. We've heard different things from different companies about their view on when the US academic market is going to rebound. I'm curious. What's your view? Are you expecting an improvement there in the second half of the calendar year or do you hold a different viewpoint?
- CEO
Well, with the NIH funding being a little above 3% which is probably going to more to wages and salaries and things, we don't see a great uplift. Now, the year over year comps start getting easier now so I think we'll see all that play into everybody's results.
I don't see a great lift. I think as you see, our mix is going down in this area and much more towards industrial side which we think is healthier. We still stay very focused on it.
Our KOL strategy is entirely about that and it's all about what's developed today is going to end up in industrial tomorrow so it's important but it's not the great growth lever in our strategy. I think it will -- it won't get worse. But I don't think it will get a whole lot better.
- Analyst
That's helpful. Thank you. And then on the investment in Cyvek, could you maybe compare and contrast for me what that technology does versus what your capabilities already are through your lumen next relationship?
- CEO
With that, we also have our Head of BD here with us who is very technically better at this than I will, but Dr. Frank Mortari can explain that for us.
- Head of BD
Yes, Dan. Beside that testing platform, we think provides limited flexing capacity in immunoassay testing along with a little of automation that customers are requesting. So the -- and while at the same time, also reducing the rarity requirements in precious samples. So it provides a series of benefits that I think speed up the testing process and also it deleverages exactly what we're known for, is the height and the depth of biological content that we've developed over the years.
- CEO
So it's very important to know that this is not something that goes very straight after multiplexing. We still have strong relationships there and they've all been in and they understand. This new device has no cross talk, over the four analyzed to begin with and hopefully moving up some more than that in the future.
And the dynamic range is over four logs so it's very sensitive and very fast and with very small samples, as Frank pointed out, it's the kind of test that we're excited about because we think microfluidics is -- it's a trend that we have to deal with as a reagent provider anyway. So it plays to all our strengths and of course, they're looking to us as the people who are going to develop the panels and have the best ability to create the right panels and assays on top of the instruments.
- Analyst
Got it. Then my final question, Chuck, what's the right level of R&D spend for this business going forward? I ask after a quarter where R&D spend, as a percentage of revenue, came in lower than it's been in a long time, if not ever.
- CEO
It's not a concerted effort to lower spending here. I'm an innovation person with a 25 years at 3M. So believe me, I think it's between 8% and 10%.
Year-on-year spending in terms of real dollars are up. It's just -- the mix is changing a little bit there. And obviously, a business like Bionostics doesn't need a lot; it's an OEM business. So I fully expect this to -- we'll probably be in the -- closer to 9% going forward in that range.
- Analyst
Got it. Thank you.
Operator
Matt Hewitt, Hallum Capital.
- Analyst
I've got a question. You were able to muscle through some pretty difficult weather in January, in particular. As we looked at it, we were thinking that there might be five to seven days where you had basically lost from a shipping perspective. You were able to muscle through that.
You commented in your prepared remarks about Thermo Fisher and not being able to quantify. Was that really the delta in the quarter? Was that what enabled you to muscle through the weather?
- CEO
Well, we had somewhere between six and eight days of impact, as you know. You don't get much more of a run rate-based business than ours. And literally our orders are coming in and go at out the same day, to a certain degree, and when researchers aren't in the labs due to weather, they're not using our stuff and they don't need to order more stuff.
So we had about actually like a $1.4 million hit we quantified due to weather. So that's another 1.5% of growth that we didn't get.
But everybody had that as well so your term, muscling through it, I think is accurate. We had our people out and our new sales team has been out there working.
We had some extra lift; it's probably in that range from Fisher, we think, anyway. It's kind of working. And probably going to be some modest investments going forward but I really want to see what kind of traction we can really get with our new partner with 680 reps in the field.
- Analyst
Okay. And then secondly, regarding PrimeGene, having that complete now, having your fighter brand in China, how should we think about the ramp and how quickly, now that it's under your umbrella, we could see -- I don't think -- you commented 30% growth for the year. But you're up 2% here this quarter and you do have some tough comps over the next few quarters. How quickly can we see that organic growth rate and quite frankly, the PrimeGene contribution really start to drive China?
- CEO
Yes, there's really two parts here. We will continue to invest in China. And the Beijing office we opened this year is having some great results. We just hired a new sales director, as an example, to help get things moving at an increased scale.
I think we're going to be in that range. I mean, been doing this before and it seems like it's -- the scalability is there.
PrimeGene will play into some of that because they're there and we can localize products. And as you can know, the Chinese are very -- those markets, as they evolve in these areas, are very price conscious so we'll have, I think, a lift there.
But it's a bunch bigger than just China. We tend to use this as a fighter brand worldwide and in fact, PrimeGene has a few products that are absolutely phenomenal and we're going to bring those over and market those (multiple speakers) --
And we're going to have a lot of products that we feel have become commodities that, as you know, we've been struggling with academically, at least. But we're going to relabel those as PrimeGene and improve that overall portfolio and that's a global strategy, not just China. But China is the first place to try it all out, get started, get moving, we are -- we're starting to integrate already.
Things take time. Even though it's all in Shanghai, it's a big city. It takes, with traffic, maybe an hour to get back and forth and so it's going to take a little while. Great team. Been talking to them for nine months so we know each other quite well at this point. But there's a lot of work to get done on the branding side, as you can imagine and the catalogs.
- Analyst
All right. Thank you very much for the update.
Operator
Paul Knight, Janney Montgomery.
- Analyst
Hi, Chuck. The nature of your deals, is it going to be more on taking an investment and then accumulate ownership position or is it going to be more like PrimeGene?
- CEO
PrimeGene's a full acquisition, okay? But CyVek is an investment for now. They're a startup. And they've got a thing called a burn rate, right? And I've -- I'm -- it's difficult to be buying pre-revenue companies.
So as taking care of shareholders, I think this is the prudent way to go and make sure that they are -- get to their milestones. If they get to their milestones, which we don't think are that horrendous, then we fully intend to buy them out.
In the first level, it will be a complete buyout and then there's an earn out at the second level and I think we put all those in the 10-Q, 10-K. So that's all out there for public disclosure.
- Analyst
What's your targeted operating margin, long term?
- CEO
Well, there's the instrument side of the business and there's the assay side, right? So I would say on the instrument side, it's going to be your typical 50% to 55%, like most infant businesses try to strive for, maybe 60% if we get lucky here. We'll see. It's early. It's the kind of part they're working on.
We'll be building conferencing here for instruments which we don't have or any right now, not on the machine side but they're a great group. Located in a great location and the lead developer has something like 100 patents.
I really like what I've seen. I've been, as Jim has as well, been in the instrument business before so we like it.
The cartridge side seems much better. Again, as we mentioned, I think that as the next generation kind of [parallel ELISA]. When you start looking at the value prop for four or eight Analyte ELISA -type system, the numbers could go quite large, especially for a test that happens in under an hour, which has a pretty much a walk away mode.
There's no tubes, no buffers, no anything. So it's kind of a, we'll wait and see but I think it's a merge. And I always run businesses in consumables but they roughly should be about within three to five years; the consumable business should be as big as the instrument side. And so merging those together, let's say 65 hopefully, in that range.
- Analyst
Okay.
- CEO
It's really an unknown right now. These are all goals. It's a startup and we have many machines in beta testing right now. It is working but, as you all know, a lot of people have been here before, too. There's a lot of homework to get done.
- Analyst
Will you -- what's your targeted overall Bio-Techne operating margins?
- CEO
Yes, I mean, I think as the business stands today, current makeup, I'd say that it's the kind of margins that we delivered in Q3. We did something we'd expect going forward in terms of operating margins, with 50% range, and gross margins blended in that 70 -- the low 70% range. But obviously, depending on how that mix might change going forward, it could alter but on a standalone basis that's what I expect going forward.
- Analyst
And then lastly on with the China acquisition, and your global initiatives, do you see the tax rate falling or where is the trends on tax rate?
- CFO
I hope falling. (laughter) Now we're past the comps on the credit, the R&D credit so as you see that has an impact. And I don't like sitting at 31% more than anybody else does, but it is what it is until we work on this issue.
- CEO
China is still a small piece of our business. As that continues to grow, outpace the growth of the overall Company, it should help the tax rates given that China's got lower tax rates than the US does.
- Analyst
Okay. Thank you.
Operator
Jeff Elliott, Robert W. Baird.
- Analyst
My first question is on China. Can you walk me through the comp issue that you mentioned January of last year and talk about the pacing you saw in both February and March of this quarter?
- CEO
Yes. It's really pretty simple. We had a couple of large accounts buys in January of last year. And again, this is a pretty small business base wise risk for business so that had an impact. Looking forward into February and March, the growth rates month year on year are comparable.
Historically, this business has been around 18% to 20%. I think depending on last year, just short of 20%; this year, I think we are going to be well north of 25%. I've been very public about stating our strategy, our goal is near 30%. I think we've got a good shot at near 30%.
- Analyst
Got it.
- CEO
Going forward, it should be that with investments we're making there in people and buying companies, et cetera, all of the above. So --
- Analyst
Okay. Great. Next question is on the US sales force, can you talk about how the sales force has ramped since you added some headcount there?
- CEO
I've got to tell you, when I ran the LCD for Thermo, and the division is separate in Thermo Fisher from the Fisher side, which is neutral, as you know. And there's always a love of channel conflict around that, because in the case that Fisher would sell Corning and (inaudible) along with the Thermo brands. So getting the reps working together to really make that channel model work and leverage the big Fisher was always challenging. We've made it work.
They're making it work fantastically now, as you can see, by their progress. They're getting through it. It's taking a few years but it's working.
On our side here, there's no conflict. It's worked well. We've got five rock star reps that we hired and I've been with every one of them.
I've talked to every one of them and they shared about how they felt about this. And they are open arms over this and they are working with all the field people. As you know, as part of the arrangement, there are 30 technical specialists as well, which our people marry up with, and work the deals.
They couldn't be happier or more pleased to have the help out there and then drive this big engine. So we're still very bullish that this is going to be a good thing.
As I mentioned before, it's not a double the company or anything like that. We expect to have, I'd say compared to historically our third-party sales with Fisher before we did all this, over the next two or three years, we'll probably triple the amount of volume we pushed through.
With that first level amount, you'd probably in the swap range but we're not seeing, as I said before, a whole lot of margin differences either. They're paid really on the growth uplift and it seems to be working but the attitudes are fantastic. They featured us at their show. We're at the platinum level.
So it's what they're trying to move and sell, and as I mentioned, with the million products that Fisher is moving and trying to always do day in day out in all these laboratories you don't get a lot of a PI' time when you're in there pushing pipette or tips and flaps and cell factories and et cetera, and reagents. You start bringing in the kinds of high level content we have, and then you start getting notice from decision-makers in the laboratories and that allows them, of course, to pull through many, many more of their products which, as you know, why they want to do this, why it's so important to them and it's probably to do, a large degree on the reagents side, why they like the life tech business as well.
So long term, it's going to be very good for them. They're starting to figure out how to be a high content supplier and we're here to help with our piece of it in North America. You know?
- Analyst
Okay. Great. And just lastly on capital deployment, obviously it was over $270 million in cash. Can you talk about what you're looking at in terms of capital deployments? And how big of an acquisition do you think you could pull off at this point? Thanks.
- CFO
Okay. Well, let's see, we still have no debt. And we're still generating the same kind of cash flow we have been. So you've got the numbers like we have. You start putting in what we can do on a term A or term B and we're well north of $1 billion.
We took a shot at high [clone], which is up in that range, and came in second, hard to beat GE when they get serious, of course but we have that kind of wherewithal.
We haven't done anything yet larger because we're being very careful and whatever we do is, as I mentioned many times, you're going to see direct synergies. So with PrimeGene, it's a no-brainer; with CyVek, it's a no-brainer; on synergies with our reagents and if we do a larger deal, they'll see the same kind of strategy follow.
So we have the ability to do something much bigger and obviously, we have a lot of things we're looking at. My team and I have a strong M&A background and we're hoppering and filtering and ranking and well over 60, 70 different targets worldwide.
As you know, this is a very, very fast moving industry. And every month, there's another couple new potentials out there, CyVek as a good example last year as a great new technology. So there are other great other assets that are larger and we're looking at all of them and if something makes sense, we'll do it. And if not, we won't. So --
- Analyst
Great. Thanks. I'll jump back in queue.
Operator
Amanda Murphy, William Blair.
- Analyst
I just have one quick one. Could you just talk a little bit about the performance of the business by business line meaning proteins, antibodies and then a lit of kits?
- CEO
Yes, in Minnesota, we don't ever comment on that.
- Analyst
Okay. Then it will be a quick question. (laughter) I guess --
- CFO
We are out there showing the split, roughly about a third each in the Company. Starting to change some. Hopefully, with PrimeGene, we'll see more of a growth than proteins. Cut off the small amount of erosion that we're seeing on the low end but we don't comment on results in each area.
- Analyst
Okay. I guess I'll sneak another one in then. So for the Fisher agreement, can you just maybe remind us what components of your business that, that benefits? Is it just US or is it global? I just -- don't recall exactly?
- CEO
It's really North America; it's US and Canada primarily.
- Analyst
Okay.
- CEO
I will mention, in Canada, we go through a distributor and I'm not very happy and we should be much bigger and Fisher has a lot of reps in Canada. So we're definitely putting together, trying our plans up to work in Canada and which they like as well because there's no term channel swap there at all. Everything we do there is virtually incremental growth so in a way, it's kind of low hanging fruit, we think. So a lot of emphasis in Canada, but US and Canada primarily.
- Analyst
Got it. Okay, thanks very much.
Operator
There are no other questions in queue.
- CEO
Why don't we give it a minute or two?
Operator
Great.
(Operator Instructions)
And there are no questions in queue, sir.
- CEO
Okay. I guess with that, we'll end this call. I want to thank you all for attending. We continue to make, I think, reasonable progress here. Pretty big move this Company's made year on year in terms of year-to-date organic growth rates.
I think our investments have been the right investments and they're starting to work. They're not too expensive either but we will continue to go forward. With that strategy as well. And I look forward to speaking to all of you off-line and in the near future. Thank you.