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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for participating in today's call to discuss StarTek's financial results for the third quarter ended September 30, 2015. Joining us today is StarTek's President and CEO, Chad Carlson; and the Company's CFO, Lisa Weaver. Following their remarks, we will open the call for your questions.

  • Before we continue, we would like to remind all participants that the discussion today may contain certain statements which are forward-looking in nature, pursuant to the Safe Harbor's provision of federal securities laws. These statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties, and actual results may vary materially from these projections. StarTek advises all of those listening to this call to review the 2014 Form 10-K posted on their website for a summary of these risks and uncertainties. StarTek does not undertake a responsibility to update these projections.

  • Further, the discussion today may include some non-GAAP measures. In accordance with Regulation G, the Company has reconciled these amounts back to the closest GAAP-based measurement. The reconciliations can be found in the earnings release on the Investor page of their website. I would like to remind everyone that a webcast replay of today's call will be available via the Investors section of the Company's website at www.StarTek.com.

  • Now I would like to turn the call over to StarTek's President and CEO, Chad Carlson. Sir, please proceed.

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • Thank you, Lauren. Good afternoon and thank you all for joining. As most of you saw earlier today, we issued a press release announcing our financial results for the third quarter. On the last earnings call, I stressed our determination to return StarTek to profitability.

  • To do so, we are focused on two key initiatives -- converting the sales pipeline and cost reductions. I feel good about our sales conversion, as we got back on track in the third quarter, and we have made better-than-expected progress with the synergies associated with the ACCENT integration, as well as other significant cost reductions, as we elevate the urgency to generate net income for our shareholders.

  • During today's call, I'm going to walk you through some of our progress on these initiatives as well as some of the reasons why StarTek's results have not yet met our expectations this year. More specifically, I'm going to discuss what we are doing to address these results to ensure this difficult period is behind us.

  • But before commenting further, I will hand it over to Lisa to take you through the third-quarter results. I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank Lisa for her dedication to StarTek over the last four years. As many of you may have seen last month, she announced her decision to move back to Tennessee to be closer to her family. Lisa served as an exceptional finance executive for StarTek and we wish her all the best in her future endeavors.

  • We also appreciate her assistance while transitioning out as we search for her replacement. We are making good progress on our search, and expect to have a successor for Lisa named very soon.

  • With that I'll turn it over to Lisa to provide more detail on our third-quarter financial results. Lisa?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Thank you, Chad. Much appreciated. Moving right into the results for the quarter, total revenue increased 18% to $72.8 million compared to $61.4 million in the year-ago quarter. This was largely to two $10.7 million of incremental revenues from new client wins and $17.3 million of contribution from ACCENT, which was acquired in June.

  • This was partially offset by lower client volumes from several of our larger telecom and cable clients. We believe these client volumes have stabilized. Gross margin in the third quarter was 4.3% compared to 14.7%, with the decrease due to the previously mentioned lower client volumes and incremental costs from added seat capacity in late 2014 and 2015, resulting in low utilization, which can be remedied if we continue ramping our new sales wins. This was partially offset by a (technical difficulty) margin impact of new client wins in higher-margin verticals and the closing of Jonesboro, Heredia and Enid sites over the last year.

  • SG&A expenses during the third quarter totaled $9.3 million compared to $7.5 million in the year-ago period. This quarter included $1.3 million of ACCENT G&A and $700,000 of integration-related costs. As a percentage of revenues, SG&A expenses were 12.8% compared to 12.2% in the same quarter a year ago.

  • Adjusted EBITDA in the third quarter was negative $2.2 million compared to $5 million in the year-ago quarter. The decline was due to lower call volumes, incremental costs from new sites, and the ACCENT acquisition, all of which was partially offset by new client wins and other cost actions taken in response to soft revenues. We have and continue to take actions to reduce costs. It is important to note that the benefit of the ACCENT acquisition, while not fully realized until the first quarter of next year, will be accretive in the fourth quarter.

  • At September 30, the Company's cash position was $800,000 compared to $5.3 million at year-end 2014, with an outstanding balance of $28.4 million on our $50 million credit facility. We have reduced our CapEx plan for 2015 to approximately $7.5 million. Through September 30, we have invested approximately $6.5 million, which includes $2 million for 500 new seats early in 2015. This is in addition to the 2,000 incremental seats gained through the ACCENT acquisition. At the end of the third quarter, our total seat count stood at 13,800.

  • This concludes my prepared remarks. I will now turn it back over to Chad.

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • Thank you, Lisa. I will be frank. Our results this quarter are not reflective of the results our Company is capable of producing, specifically with regards to margins. As Lisa mentioned earlier, margins were impacted by the decline in large client volumes, investments in newly-added seat capacity, and temporary dilution from ACCENT.

  • I would like to provide a brief overview on each of these items, and then review the actions we have and are planning to take to restore profitability and growth.

  • Starting with the decline in large client volumes, we have reported and discussed this over the last couple of quarters. Fortunately, we believe these volumes have now, for the most part, stabilized, and our metric performance for clients continues to be strong. These soft client volumes are primarily driven by AT&T, who will be down approximately $21 million year-over-year. This has been due to some vendor consolidation and their initiative to bring programs back onshore.

  • As I have stated in the past, we are now positioned as the strategic supplier to one of AT&T's divisions, and we are working to grow that line of business as well as create other opportunities with this valued client. Other client volume reductions have come from three other large clients, who, for the year, will be down roughly a combined $20 million year-over-year. Some of this is due to mix changes, program changes and some risk mitigation actions with concentrated queues by spreading the volume to other partners. These revenue dynamics occurred during a period when we were adding capacity, creating a significant misalignment with capacity utilization, and ultimately resulted in the decline of gross margins.

  • Before we began to experience the decline in volumes from our larger clients, we added 2,875 seats in four locations late last year, as well as in early 2015, adding $11 million of fixed cost. We actually had plans to expand another 1,700 seats this year. Once the erosion in these large client programs was apparent, we immediately stopped additional capacity expansions.

  • We have expanded to the volatility in large client volumes with a commitment to increased utilization and the objective of returning to profitability and free cash flow generation. This is demonstrated by the reduction of our 2015 CapEx plan over the course of the year, which started at $18 million and is now down to approximately $7.5 million.

  • When we assessed the ACCENT opportunity, we saw an underperforming asset that we could quickly remove cost and become accretive. They also had a large client in a vertical we are a leader in, a very capable footprint and, most importantly, valuable customer engagement solutions to add to the StarTek Advantage system. However, ACCENT was not making money, and therefore had a short-term dilutive effect on Q3.

  • We have since realized cost synergies, and ACCENT should contribute positively in Q4. As I mentioned earlier, this team is committed to attaining profitability by focusing on sales pipeline conversion, cost reductions and operational efficiencies.

  • Now I will further discuss the ACCENT integration process and outline the actions we have taken and plan to further reduce costs. First, the integration of ACCENT -- this year, we will have achieved approximately $7.5 million of annualized cost reductions, exceeding the original synergy target. Improvement in gross margin is running slightly behind our expected timeframe by several weeks due to investments in operations and leadership, but we are seeing performance improvements and are pleased with the overall progress thus far. I am very happy with the team's execution through the integration.

  • This was a relatively large deal for StarTek, and to have exceeded the synergy target in four months speaks volumes about our team's abilities. A few elements remain and we expect to achieve additional synergies through Q1 of 2016.

  • With regard to capacity and CapEx, we now have a healthy footprint. As Lisa mentioned earlier, we recently made the decision to close ACCENT'S Kansas City facility, as it was not meeting profit margin requirements. This will save $300,000 of costs per quarter, and I am pleased that the team was able to retain all related revenue.

  • We are actively working to further reduce pockets of capacity where practical, and are planning 2016 CapEx to be less than $6 million. We are further reducing and streamlining G&A. In addition to the ACCENT synergies, over the past few months, we have taken out $2.8 million in costs, and plan for an additional $1 million of further cost reductions over the next couple months. These actions, combined with operational efficiency gains and revenue growth, should enable StarTek to achieve profitability.

  • The other focus area for a return to profitability is adding incremental revenue growth and increasing capacity utilization by converting the sales pipeline. This quarter we continue to execute on this initiative with four client wins, three of which are in newer verticals, totaling $17.5 million in annual contract value.

  • Including expansion of a new program with an existing client, we closed $20 million of new business during the quarter. Two of these new client wins were healthcare clients. Both were healthcare providers offering specialty services.

  • I'd also like to note that revenue from our top four clients only accounted for 51% of revenue in Q3 compared to 80% of revenue in the year-ago quarter, building on our mitigation of client concentration risk. Though painful in near-term, by diversifying our revenue base and reducing our dependence on our top four clients, we should be much better positioned to weather unpredictable volumes and maintain margin integrity going forward.

  • We will continue to focus on diversifying our revenue base and becoming less reliant on volumes from our larger clients. We will continue to leverage the differentiating customer engagement practices within the StarTek Advantage system to aid clients with their customer engagement strategies, followed by the execution of those strategies. These are more valuable, stickier solutions that we are offering clients across multiple verticals.

  • It's worth noting that we now have the most revenue diversification, client and vertical diversification in the history of StarTek. As we close out the year and look ahead to 2016, we will continue to win new business, streamline the footprint, and improve efficiencies to expand margins. I am confident that our Q4 and 2016 results will be much more indicative of the Company that you and I have envisioned for some time.

  • All in all, I'll leave you with this. Our client performance metrics remain strong, and we hope to continue growing revenue at a double-digit rate. And we will continue to aggressively convert the sales pipeline and target cost reductions and efficiencies to reach our objective of profitability and generating free cash flow.

  • Lauren, Lisa and I will now open the call for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Dave Koning, Baird.

  • Dave Koning - Analyst

  • I guess, first of all, just so we can kind of get an organic growth assumption, do you have the ACCENT revenues for the quarter?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • $17.3 million.

  • Dave Koning - Analyst

  • Okay. And what about just the breakdown between the top like four clients -- AT&T, Comcast, T-Mobile, Sprint? Like do you have each of them? Or I think you gave the combined total.

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Yes. I'll tell you that T-Mobile was $16.3 million for the quarter or 22% of our revenue. AT&T was $7.4 million or 10% of our revenue, and Comcast was $7.6 million, about 10.5% of revenue.

  • Dave Koning - Analyst

  • Okay. And I know you guys have done a nice job now on the cost cuts with ACCENT. And it takes a little while, obviously, to get that all to play out as you cut some of the capacity and stuff -- or the locations and all that. But do you have kind of a timeframe now on EBITDA profitability at some point in 2016, maybe?

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • We are expecting pretty meaningful improvements in the very near-term.

  • Dave Koning - Analyst

  • Okay. Or maybe even by the end of this year?

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • Not going to -- we are pushing it. We are not going to provide guidance, though, David.

  • Dave Koning - Analyst

  • Okay, okay. And if we back into your comments about the top clients, I mean, it sounds like -- and if we back out ACCENT, actually the -- that next layer of clients is actually growing pretty well. Like is it just a function of sales? Or is it clients that you have installed already starting to layer on additional work with you guys? Or maybe describe kind of how that's going.

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • Well, both, I think. The clients and logos that we've added over the past year or so have grown nicely for us as well as new sales.

  • Dave Koning - Analyst

  • Okay. Good. Well, that's all I've got for now. Thank you.

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • Thank you, Dave.

  • Operator

  • Matt Blazei, Lake Street Capital Markets.

  • Matt Blazei - Analyst

  • I was curious as to the regional breakdown that you typically provide in your releases. I didn't see it on this press release. Is there a change in that?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • No. We will have to check that after the call, but I can give you the revenue breakdown.

  • Matt Blazei - Analyst

  • That would be great.

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Onshore was $44.6 million; offshore was $17.1 million; and nearshore was $11.1 million.

  • Matt Blazei - Analyst

  • $11.1 million?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Yes.

  • Matt Blazei - Analyst

  • Okay. Yes, the table is not in here. You mentioned potentially getting to EBITDA profitability here relatively soon. I'm curious as to your CapEx expectations for next year and when you might think to start to see positive free cash flow.

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Yes. I think, as Chad mentioned, we are obviously working through our 2016 plans now. And we don't see a plan that has a spending more than about $6 million next year. And --

  • Matt Blazei

  • Okay.

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • We are looking for ways to minimize that even further.

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Yes. And I don't think our plan has changed from our discussions on the last call, where we are looking to generate cash in the second quarter.

  • Matt Blazei - Analyst

  • Okay. In Q2?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Yes.

  • Matt Blazei - Analyst

  • All right. Thank you very much.

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • Thank you.

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Thank you, Matt.

  • Operator

  • Adam Goldstein.

  • Adam Goldstein - Private Investor

  • So it looks like, if I got the math right, you said $17.3 million came from ACCENT. So I guess that means $55.5 million came from StarTek, original. So I guess that's about a 10% revenue decline? Is that right? Is my math right?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Yes.

  • Adam Goldstein - Private Investor

  • Yes? Okay.

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • Yes, that's about right.

  • Adam Goldstein - Private Investor

  • Okay. So I guess my -- the overall question here is -- I mean, I've heard you talk about -- well, actually, let me get one other number here. I think you said you $20 million -- you were down $20 million year-over-year from non-AT&T telecom. How much --

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • I said a few other large clients, so, yes.

  • Adam Goldstein - Private Investor

  • Okay. And then -- and how much are --

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • It's full year, year-over-year.

  • Adam Goldstein - Private Investor

  • Right, right. And how about from AT&T?

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • $20 million -- $21 million.

  • Adam Goldstein - Private Investor

  • Okay, so a total of about $41 million of lost business in telecom?

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • Erosion, yes, telecom and cable.

  • Adam Goldstein - Private Investor

  • Yes. So I guess I'm just not understanding what happened here. I mean, at the end of -- if I go back -- as you guys know, I have been a stockholder for a long, long, long time. So going back to like 2013, I mean, things were going great.

  • Something happened -- and then I noticed, when I used to call in and I would always ask about what's happening with the revenue ramps -- I don't know if you guys remember, but every quarter I would call in and ask. And it seemed -- the reason I kept asking that was it seemed something wasn't going right with the revenue ramp. I mean, that's why I kept asking every quarter, what's going on?

  • So can you -- I still don't really understand what happened. Why has the telecom business declined so dramatically?

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • Well, Adam, I've spoken to that in detail over the last couple quarters, and laid out specifically, after the first-quarter call, what we were seeing in AT&T and some of the other erosion we were dealing with, and alerted our shareholders to what was going on in the business to the extent that I could, as that was commencing.

  • So, yes, it is a large year-over-year erosion in revenue in those large clients. The concentration of large client revenue has been a risk in this business that we've spoken about quite a bit, which is why we've had the strategy to mitigate that risk of revenue concentration, and have made significant progress with the new bookings and the new adds of business, new logos in the business.

  • To the point that David just mentioned, the growth in the business outside of those large clients has been market. And we are going to continue that process. And it's also why I highlighted the fact that we believe those volumes in revenues have stabilized at this stage with those large clients. But we definitely went through some significant erosion that we are quickly trying to address and adapt to, to get back to a better footing in the business going forward. And we have a much -- obviously, not all of it happened the way we would like it to happen, but we are much more diversified today, which is very important going forward.

  • Adam Goldstein - Private Investor

  • Well, yes, I agree with that. I mean, is it correct to say now that the only remaining AT&T business at this point is the receivables management?

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • Yes.

  • Adam Goldstein - Private Investor

  • So, I mean, just to drive this point home, I believe like -- if we go back like five years ago or something, wasn't AT&T's customer care service the large majority of StarTek's whole revenue?

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • Yes.

  • Adam Goldstein - Private Investor

  • So -- all right. So, yes, I mean, obviously I'm unhappy with what's happened. But I do understand that without -- that if you hadn't been able to grow other business, I mean, that would have been the end.

  • So -- okay, so I understand AT&T basically consolidated with another vendor, a competitor. I'm really not -- why the loss of market share in the other telecom clients? Is there some larger -- is there some kind of consolidation happening? Is there some reason for the market share loss in telecom?

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • No, I spoke to exactly what was going on in this other clients in my script, so I'd ask you to reference that because I feel I laid out the reasons in there.

  • Adam Goldstein - Private Investor

  • Okay.

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • Thank you, Adam.

  • Operator

  • Omar Somalot.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • Okay, so how would you characterize the ACCENT sites in terms of their performance versus your initial expectations so far, and maybe as it pertains to expected return on investments?

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • In general, I think we are, for the most part, on track, Omar. I did mention in my script, though, that with some of the investments we made in a few of the sites and investments within the labor force as well as leadership, we're -- I think I mentioned we are several weeks behind the gross margin numbers that we had expected at the outset. But we are pleased with the progress we are seeing and the performance in those sites now, and they are getting into the range of what we had expected there.

  • So, a little bit behind on margins in a few of the sites because of some of the investments we made in the business, but getting back on -- getting on track pretty quickly right now. So, all in all, I feel pretty good about the results out of the business, the revenue retention, the sales pipeline conversion of the asset that we acquired. And then certainly, we stressed, pretty pleased with the execution against our synergy target.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • Okay. And I saw that -- I think Lisa mentioned that there was like $700,000 integration costs in the G&A line. Is that a one-time expense?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Yes, global integration costs this quarter as well. But yes, that's not recurring.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • Okay. So there will be a little bit more in Q4, for that?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • There will, yes.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • And could you tell me what were your growth investment expenses for the quarter? Or give me an indication of more or less how much in growth investment expenses?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • CapEx?

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • No, OpEx.

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • No, I don't have that here at my fingertips, Omar. I'll have to get that.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • Okay, sounds good. And could you say what was the CapEx for in Q3?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Yes, it was mainly for the buildout of the Hamilton location. And then there was some minor maintenance type investments in IT.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • Okay, and then I see that you have maybe another $1 million or so in Q4, I'm assuming more or less for maintenance as well?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Correct. And a little bit of run-out on the Hamilton investment.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • Okay, got it.

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • We are trying to mitigate that as well.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • Okay, okay. The restructuring charges for the quarter -- what was that for?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • It was really two main things. It was for the cost reductions that Chad and I mentioned. There were some people associated with that, so it was the severance reserve for those people, and then also the Kansas City people or employee-related reserve.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • Okay. And I guess by now we are pretty much done with the costs related with the IT platform?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • We are, yes, we are finished.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • Perfect. Could you tell me what was the cash restructuring charge for the quarter?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • No, I don't have that at my fingertips, either. It's obviously going to be in the Q, so we will --

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • Okay, I'll wait for then. Okay. How come the AR went down a bit from the previous quarter, despite the 14.5 revenue increase from Q2 as you add ACCENT?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Yes, so improvement.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • That's quite a bit of improvement. So what are DSOs now?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • [65].

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • Okay. Wow, okay.

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Yes.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • So, I mean, at this level, do you -- I was expecting a lot more working capital need at this revenue level. Do you see more of a need coming down the line as revenues start to increase back up?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Yes. I mean, obviously, there's revenue associated with growth -- I mean there's cash associated with growth. Yes.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • Okay, all right. So the offshore gross margin dropped from 10% or so in Q2 to 7.2%. Was that a combination of the lost AT&T Mobility plus ramping costs of new business that you are replenishing there right now?

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • Yes. Some other mix and volume shifts there. But yes, for the most part, Omar, that's what it was.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • Okay. And what about the drop in gross margin in the domestic segment from 6% in Q2 to 0.7% in Q3? What happened there?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Yes, the majority of that was the impact of Hamilton, of course, coming online for the full quarter, and then the impact of the ACCENT site. So they were dilutive in the domestic segment, primarily.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • Got it. Okay, okay. Sprint announced today that they have some pretty significant cost-cutting efforts going on, which include optimizing labor, as they called it. Will that be an opportunity for you guys going forward?

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • Possibly.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • Okay, all right. And so during Q1 conference call, you said that you expected to be back on track by the end of the year. Now, with the IT platform in place, the ACCENT integration going ahead of schedule and accretive to earnings in Q4, and obviously, as you announced, you are, in fact, converting the pipeline into wins. So would all this indicate that Q4 should be a much, much improved quarter in terms of earnings results?

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • Well, I certainly would hope that this quarter we just reported is kind of the bottom for the foreseeable future, yes.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • Okay, perfect. And Lisa, we will -- at least me -- will miss you dearly. I just wanted to ask -- you've been with the Company for four years. Do you feel like you are leaving this company better than you found it? Why or why not?

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Thanks, Omar, I appreciate that. No, I absolutely do because all of the accomplishments of the team over the last four years. And there's a lot of momentum here. I'm excited about the Company's future. But yes, I feel like we have accomplished a lot.

  • Omar Somalot - Private Investor

  • Okay. Well, thank you very much, guys, and good luck going forward.

  • Lisa Weaver - SVP and CFO

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • I would now like to turn the call back over to StarTek's President and CEO, Chad Carlson, for closing remarks.

  • Chad Carlson - President and CEO

  • Well, thank you, everybody, for your interest. And we'll talk to you next quarter. We'll get back to work.

  • Operator

  • Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the presentation and you may now disconnect. Have a great day.