Senestech Inc (SNES) 2024 Q2 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon, and welcome to the SenesTech Reports second-quarter fiscal year 2024 results. (Operator Instructions)

  • Please note this event is being recorded.

  • I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Robert Blum, Lytham Partners. Please go ahead.

  • Robert Blum - Investor Relations

  • All right. Thanks so much, Rachel, and thank you all for joining us today to discuss SenesTech's second-quarter 2024 financial results for the period ending June 30, 2024.

  • With us on the call today are Mr. Joel Fruendt, the company's Chief Executive Officer; Mr. Tom Chesterman, the company's Chief Financial Officer. At the conclusion of today's prepared remarks, we will open the call for a question-and-answer session. (Event Instructions)

  • Before we begin with prepared remarks, we submit for the record the following statement. Statements made by the management team of SenesTech during the course of this conference call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 as amended and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act 1934 as amended, and such forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

  • Forward-looking statements describe future expectations, plans, results or strategies and are generally preceded by words such as may, future, plan or planned, will or should, expected, anticipates, draft, eventually or projected. Listeners are cautioned that such statements are subject to a multitude of risks and uncertainties that could cause future circumstances, events or results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements, including the risks that actual results may differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements as a result of various factors and other risks identified in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

  • All forward-looking statements contained during this conference call speak only as of the date in which they were made and are based on management's assumptions and estimates as of such date. The company does not undertake any obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of the receipt of new information, the occurrence of future events or otherwise.

  • With that said, let me turn the call over to Joel Fruendt, Chief Executive Officer, for SenesTech. Joel, please proceed.

  • Joel Fruendt - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Thank you, Robert, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm speaking with you all from the floor of the Ace Hardware fall buying market, where we are exhibiting the Evolve product line to over 7,700 participants, representing over 5,000 stores as well as over 400 buyers from Ace's wholesale business to sell to over 700 non-Ace stores.

  • So far, the response from buyers has been dramatic, exceeding our initial expectations. Some of the reactions we have received include such comments as this is a perfect alternative for my customers. I have a lot of demand for more earth-friendly alternatives, and I am so happy that they are now alternatives to poisons. I look forward to sharing more with you in future calls on the progress we are making with Ace. But let's get to the results.

  • Second-quarter results highlighted yet another quarter of record top-line sales with 62% growth year to date versus the same period in 2023 as well as strong operational improvements across numerous key metrics, which have helped to reduce our cash burn as we look to achieve our near-term objective of profitability.

  • Tom will touch more on the financial progress in a moment. Let me focus my discussion on our progress and accomplishments and what that means for the near future. First, on the product development side. We launched Evolve, a revolutionary fragility control product formulated for the control of rat pass otherwise known as rat birth control at the beginning of the year. Evolve is designated by the EPA as a minimum risk product, exempt from federal registration requirements that still subject to state regulations. I am pleased to report that Evolve is now approved for sale in 44 states.

  • This past quarter, we completed an efficacy trial of the product in an Arizona University, demonstrating the efficacy and sustainability of Evolve. The study was required by some of the states and international jurisdictions. The results were better than expected, showing an initial 61% reduction in litter size after just one breeding round and a 90% reduction over the course of 12 months.

  • Remember, two rats or mice can become 15,000 in just one year. So this represents a substantial reduction in population. Some of our early customers are now conducting third-party field trials, including a trial in the Florida sugarcane fields, a university trial in a large housing area, and a California DPR funded study on sustainable alternatives to rodenticide use.

  • Also on the product development side, we launched Evolve Mouse, a product using the same active ingredient, but specifically for mice. It is currently available for sale in 32 states. As with the rat product, some states require an efficacy trial, which will shortly be underway at an Arizona University. Having a mouse-specific product effectively doubles our obtainable market.

  • Moving from product development to commercialization, we have pivoted our selling efforts to a distribution model, where we target larger orders and a lower cost of selling up. The Evolve product line allows the shift in a way that ContraPest could not through a substantial shelf life, ease of use, and lower installed costs. We are continuing to expand into the international market, which is also only possible with the Evolve product line.

  • Let me walk you through our progress in these areas, which will build on our success in the second and third quarter. Starting with the international front. We have active agreements in 11 countries. And four of them, we are either in pivotal trials to gain full registration in those countries with our distributors working extensively with government agencies or are actually on the market. To remind you, for our international distribution agreements, we require an upfront purchase and increasing annual sales in order to maintain exclusivity.

  • Moving now to agribusiness, which is one of the largest markets we are pursuing, interest from ag companies is increasing, both through direct discussions with very large agricultural operations as well as ag distributors. We currently have four stocking national distributors in this area and are onboarding two more.

  • We continue to sell directly to larger agricultural customers, especially in California. An example of this would be a large almond producer, who now has expanded its deployment into additional growth.

  • Next to discuss is pest management. This is a rapidly changing vertical as we pivot from reliance on direct sales to pest management focused distributors. We are live with 3 of the top 5 national multi-location distributors and are onboarding, a fourth. We have four more we are pursuing and expect to onboard them this quarter. This market requires a distribution model as our direct sales team works extensively with the industry's top distributors to rapidly expand scale and coverage.

  • Retail is next for discussion and very much on my mind right now. This is the market that takes a while to penetrate as the buyers here have long buying decision cycles. This also is an area we tackle -- this is also an area we tackle alone. We need experts.

  • We now have agreements with five sales agencies with over 50 reps in the field and selling to 23 retail co-op and big box chains representing over 50,000 locations. These accounts include the largest of the retailers, warehouses, and big-box operators, including the one who's buying show, I'm currently speaking from.

  • Transitioning now to e-commerce. Currently, we have our own website, and we are live on Amazon, the largest online marketplace on the planet. We are also on diypestcontrol.com. Many of the retailers addressed above also have their own e-commerce platform and make their stocking decisions separately.

  • So the same rep agency selling to retail and industrial also sell to these third-party e-commerce platforms. We have agreements to onboard two of the largest this quarter, including tractorsupply.com and walmart.com and have targeted six more. These efforts of the past quarter will turn into revenue this quarter and next.

  • To summarize, we are ideally positioned to see accelerating growth due to the initiatives we put in place throughout the first half of 2024, including the launch of Evolve for rats with key online retailers to launch of our new Evolve Mouse solution, the ramp-ups of recently secured distribution agreements, new product packing options, and perhaps most importantly, the potential adoption will be bought by some of the nation's largest brick-and-mortar retailers with whom we have recently engaged. Placement by one or two of these retailers could result in our immediate transition to profitability.

  • Let me turn it over to Tom now for a discussion of the numbers. Tom?

  • Thomas Chesterman - Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President, Treasurer, Assistant Secretary

  • Thank you, Joel. We'll be filing our 10-Q later today, but let me hit the financial highlights. Revenues grew 50% for the quarter and 62% year to date. Revenues for the first six months of 2024 were $874,000 compared to $538,000 for the same period in 2023. This growth was driven by the Evolve product line, which was launched at the beginning of the year and is already 59% of total sales.

  • The e-commerce channel, with both our own website and Amazon and distributor sales, represented over 65% of sales. As Joel mentioned, we anticipate the growth of these two more cost-efficient sales channels as well as the retail channel will fuel ever-increasing growth for the next quarters. Cost of goods sold and gross margin have been steadily improving month over month since we launched Evolve.

  • Gross margin for this quarter was 54%, up from 47% for the same period last year. In fact, June represented a record high gross margin for SenesTech at 67%. As we said in the past, our Evolve product line represents a lower cost and higher margin opportunity for SenesTech, and it is proving this out.

  • Ever-improving manufacturing operations give us both pricing and margin flexibility. We are also increasing production capacity to meet future demand. We have enough capacity to meet the current demand, including all of the demand Joel has discussed. However, our leases at our headquarters and our manufacturing facility are up at the end of the year.

  • Anticipating that and with a clear view of meeting future demand, we are in final negotiations for a newer, larger facility that will allow us to meet the next five or more years of increasing demand without dramatically increasing our facility costs.

  • We continue to hold the line on OpEx as well. In fact, with growing revenues, solid gross profit and disciplined operating expenses, we have cut our cash burn in half. Our adjusted EBITDA or how we measure cash burn, historically was more than $1 million a month. The first half of the year, our adjusted EBITDA was about $500,000 a month.

  • With these trends, adding in the near-term potential Joel mentioned, we definitely see the potential for cash flow breakeven next year. I would even go so far as to say early in the year given the reaction at the Ace store so far, the growth of potential e-commerce and the potential order sizes of the big box and warehouse retailers with whom we're in discussions.

  • On the capital markets side, we have put in place an ATM or at-the-market equity facility. This allows us to sell small amounts of stock over time directly to the market opportunistically at times that do not disrupt the market. This is a lower cost way of raising capital and one that does not involve warrants. In addition, we are currently negotiating credit facility that will allow us to finance raw material inventory purchases at favorable rates. We have already begun using debt more.

  • Most of our manufacturing capacity investment this year has been using debt as will be detailed in our 10-Q. While the first half of the year has been great, the second half of the year promises to be even better, much better.

  • Rachel, let's open the line for questions, please.

  • Operator

  • We'll now begin the question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions)

  • Robert Blum - Investor Relations

  • All right. Rachel, this is Robert here. While we wait to see if any questions come in via the traditional teleconference line, we have a couple of questions here offline that I wanted to go ahead and post it to the company.

  • The first one for Joel and Tom here is, could you comment on any recent large city orders?

  • Joel Fruendt - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yes, certainly, I'll take that one. We recently received a large order for Evolve from Hartford, Connecticut. In the past, they had successfully deployed some ContraPest, and they switched over. And we expect an order shortly from Newark, New Jersey on some of the work that they had done on their request for proposal.

  • And then furthermore, one of our distributors have just placed a large order for a group of Boston area municipalities. So we can see the trend heading with the big cities.

  • Robert Blum - Investor Relations

  • All right. Great. Next question here is, can you elaborate on your advances in packaging?

  • Joel Fruendt - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yes. So currently, we offer Evolve for rats in 1.5 pound and 3 pound pouches as well as 6 pound and 12 pound pails. And we also offer Evolve Mouse in 1.5 pound and the 3 pound pouches. We're trying to transition more to pouches as opposed to pails.

  • So we're launching here at the Asia, an economy size 6 pound pouch for each product. It offers a convenient larger size and represents an 87% reduction in plastic packaging as part of our overall sustainability and operational goals.

  • Robert Blum - Investor Relations

  • All right. Great. That's helpful. (Event Instructions)

  • Next question here is, can you elaborate on one or two big orders that you mentioned that could take you to profitability?

  • Joel Fruendt - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Let me just give you an example of that. So thinking about warehouse stores. So I'll just use round numbers, say 500 stores ordering one pail per store, which our product is about $10,000 per pound. That's $5 million that could be delivered and booked as revenue for a 2025 campaign. So very substantial.

  • Another example, if you take big box retailers, say those another 500 stores that order one case per month, roughly $300 per case, that's an annual rate of over $4 million. So as I mentioned earlier, we are pitching to 23 such potential customers, multi-location customers. And the total of those represents over 50,000 locations. So very substantial.

  • Robert Blum - Investor Relations

  • All right. Great. That's, again, I think, very helpful. Last question I have here for the moment is why don't we see results from these retailers and other deals you have announced?

  • Joel Fruendt - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Well, certainly, we all would like to see results immediately. Sometimes it takes a little bit longer. Each of these buyers, they have their own specific processes and buying patterns. So Ace, for example, agreed to put us in their purchasing system, but it was a complex process. And that took months to get everything the way that they wanted it, and we wanted.

  • Costco, on the other hand, they plan everything, at least six months in advance. So we are pitching them for next spring sales and into later on in 2025. Walmart, a little bit different. They start with some of their stores, stock them with a small amount of product and then expand their base on demand.

  • So every product, every customer and how they buy their products is different, which is why it is so important to work with these manufacturers rep agencies. They know their buying patterns; they know when we have to be in front of them and when we have to pursue placement in their stores.

  • Robert Blum - Investor Relations

  • Okay. Great. I am not showing any further questions here at this moment. So Joel, I'll turn it back over to you for any closing remarks.

  • Joel Fruendt - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Thanks, Robert. Just to conclude, very excited about the progress we've made. I think, we're just starting to hit the point where a lot of the work we've done over the past nine months is really going to start taking hold across these different channels that we talked about. And we should have more really good news to report out going into the balance of this year. So thank you for your time.