Star Bulk Carriers Corp (SBLK) 2012 Q2 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Welcome to the Star Bulk conference call and the second quarter 2012 financial results. We have with us Mr. Spyros Capralos, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Mr. Simos Spyrou, Chief Financial Officer of the Company.

  • At this time all participants are in a listen only mode. There will be a presentation followed by a question and answer session. (Operator Instructions). I must advise you that this conference is being recorded today Wednesday, August 29, 2012. We now pass the floor to one of your speakers today, Mr. Spyros Capralos. Please go ahead, sir.

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • Thank you, Operator. I am Spyros Capralos, President and Chief Executive Officer of Star Bulk Carriers, and I would like to welcome you to the Star Bulk Carriers first half and second quarter 2012 financial results conference call. Along with me today to discuss our financial results is our CFO, Mr. Simos Spyrou. Before we begin I kindly ask you to take a moment to read the Safe Harbor statement on slide number 2 of our presentation.

  • Let us now turn to slide number 3 of the presentation for a preview of our second quarter 2012 financial highlights in comparison to last years. In the three months ended June 30, 2012 gross revenues amounted to $21.8 million representing a 4% reduction versus the same period of 2011. General and administrative expenses were reduced by 25% to $2.1 million in Q2 2012 versus $2.9 million in Q2 2011.

  • Overall during the second quarter of 2012 the Company had a net loss of $4.6 million compared to a net income of $1.7 million Q2 2011. Excluding non-cash items our net loss for the second quarter amounted to $2.9 million compared to an adjusted net income of $2.3 million in Q2 2011.

  • Adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter 2012 was $8.4 million compared to $15.1 million last year. Our Time Charter Equivalent during this quarter was $14,628 per day compared to $18,664 last year representing mainly the low freight rate environment and as well as the loss of hires due to grounding of the Star Polaris.

  • Our average daily operating expenses were $5,241 per vessel, 11% lower than the same period last year, despite the fact that our average vessel size increased by 39% due to the higher number of Capes in our fleet. The adjusted net loss of $2.7 million represents $0.04 loss per share basic and diluted.

  • Please turn to slide number 4 of the presentation for a preview of our first-half 2012 financial highlights. In the six months ended June 30, 2012 gross revenues amounted to $49.8 million representing a 5% reduction versus the same period of 2011. G&A expenses amounted to $5.3 million and overall during the first half of 2012 the Company had a net loss of $4.5 million.

  • Excluding non-cash items our net income for the first half amounted to $3.2 million while our adjusted EBITDA stood at $26.4 million. Our Time Charter Equivalent during this period was $15,724 per day while our average daily operating expenses amounted to $5,416 per vessel. The adjusted net income of $3.2 million represents $0.04 of earnings per share basic and diluted.

  • Please turn now to slide 5 to discuss our balance sheet profile. First of all I would like to point out that we currently have zero capital expenditure commitments related to new buildings as well as no exposure to interest rate swaps. So we continue to take advantage of the prevailing low interest rate environment.

  • As of today total debt stands at $235.1 million and our current cash position stands at $38.6 million. Our net debt stands at around 3.7 times 2012 EBITDA. For this calculation we have annualized our first-half 2012 EBITDA and we have adjusted it for nonrecurring and non-cash items.

  • We feel comfortable regarding our ability to service our loans as our remaining principal repayment obligations for 2012 stand at $8.9 million. As you can see in the graph, our debt amortization profile for 2013, 2014 and 2015 stands at $32 million, $33 million and $28 million respectively.

  • Please turn to slide 6 for an overview of our fleet employment and our charter counterparties. This information is also available on our website in a very transparent manner and is updated regularly. Currently we have secured 86% of our operating days in 2012, 35% in 2013 and 19% for 2014 with most of the open days in the Supramax category.

  • Specifically, our Time Charter coverage in the Capesize segment is 97% for 2012, 73% for 2013 and 43% for 2014. We refer especially to the Capes as this segment has been the most volatile and the most negatively affected so far. Supramax rate has been less volatile and have maintained healthier margins.

  • We plan to opportunistically employ our vessels with upcoming contract expirations on period or spot charters as the freight rate environment improves. Our total contracted revenue amounts to approximately $152 million while it is worth noting that we no longer have legacy charters from the hires of 2008 that will be extremely difficult for our charters to service.

  • Moreover, I would like to highlight the high quality credit profile of our charters with blue chip companies like Rio Tinto, Cargill and Louis Dreyfus among our counterparties.

  • Please turn now to slide 7 to briefly discuss recent highlights. In today's press release we declared a cash dividend of $0.015 per outstanding share of the Company's common stock for the three months ended June 30, 2012. The dividend is payable on or about September 18, 2012 to shareholders of record as of September 10, 2012.

  • This is our 13th consecutive dividend since the Company reinstated the dividend back in 2009. Since the extension of the repurchase plan we have repurchased and retired about 926,000 shares.

  • Star Bulk has received a [recent notification] from NASDAQ indicating that the Company is not in compliance with the NASDAQ listing rules because the closing bid price of the Company's common stock was below the $1 minimum for more than 30 consecutive business days. Our Board has decided to propose a reverse split in the upcoming AGM in order for the Company to have this option to regain compliance and avoid the possibility of delisting.

  • During July the Star Polaris sustained main engine failure while sailing from South Korea. The vessel is currently docked in South Korea where it is undergoing repairs. The Company expects these repairs to be completed in November.

  • Subject to the completion of an investigation for the cause of the engine failure the Company will seek to recover the cost of the repairs and damages related to the vessel being off-hire under the warranty of quality provided by the shipyard where the vessel was constructed and the Company's hull and machinery insurance policy.

  • Please turn to slide 8. Our strategy to bring the technical fleet management in-house in late 2009 continues to improve our operational performance quarter after quarter. Our cost cutting efforts in our operating and G&A expenses have played a key role in our financial and operating performance in this challenging market environment.

  • On the top right graph you can see that while the weighted average size of our vessels increased slightly during the first half of 2012, our average daily operating expenses declined. On the bottom right graph you can see that while the average number of employees increased by 33% from 40 during the first half of 2011 to 53 in the first half of 2012 our G&A expenses, excluding the one off severance payment in stock-based compensation, slightly decreased.

  • While we have been prudently containing our expenses our ship management quality standards have been maintained at high levels, the lower left-hand side shows Star Bulk's average deficiencies per port [stage] control inspection versus the industry average. As you can see, we have consistently outperformed the industry and we try to improve our quality standards every year.

  • Moving forward we remain focused on further optimizing operating costs and implementing our quality objectives. And now I will ask Mr. Simos Spyrou, our CFO, to discuss some of the financials and give you an update on the market developments. The floor is yours, Simos.

  • Simos Spyrou - CFO

  • Thank you, Spyros. Let us not move to slide 10 for an overview of our balance sheet as of June 30, 2012. Current assets stood at $30.2 million, our fixed assets amounted to $608.2 million and total assets amounted to $681.6 million. Current liabilities were $49 million while non-current liabilities amounted to $204.7 million and stockholders' equity was at $427.9 million.

  • If we can now to slide turn to slide 11 to discuss our second quarter 2012 income statement, I would like to point out that our results include non-cash items amounting to $1.7 million, which are depicted in the middle column, while the adjusted figures exclude them.

  • For the second quarter of 2012 non-cash adjusted revenues amounted to $23.4 million compared to $22.7 million in the same period last year. While this quarter's revenue is slightly higher than last year's, our own fleet was significantly larger this year. Our revenue was contained by lower freight rates and the off-hire related to Star Polaris.

  • Our net loss for the second quarter of 2012 amounted to $4.6 million. In particular non-cash items include $1.6 million related to the amortization of above market acquired time charters and expenses of $71,000 relating to the amortization of stock-based compensation. Excluding the non-cash items our net loss for the second quarter of 2012 amounted to $2.9 million or $0.04 loss per share.

  • The increase in vessel operating expenses for the three months ended June 30, 2012 versus the same period last year was due to the increased number of vessels in our fleet and the increased (inaudible) average rental size. Voyage expenses increased to $5.3 million for the second quarter of 2012 from $4.4 million in the second quarter last year.

  • During the three months ended June 30, 2012 our vessels were under two voyage charter agreement while during the three months ended June 30, 2011 none of our vessels was under voyage charter agreements. An amount of $3.4 million in the voyage expenses during the second quarter of last year relates to the chartering in a third-party vessel to serve a shipment under a COA.

  • G&A expenses adjusted for non-cash stock-based compensation totaled $2.1 million during the second quarter of 2012 compared to $2.3 million during the second quarter of last year reduced by 12%. I would like to underline that this decrease was accompanied by an increase in the number of employees.

  • Please turn now to slide 12 to discuss our first half 2012 income statement. Again non-cash items are depicted in the middle column and the adjusted figures exclude (technical difficulty).

  • For the first half of 2012 non-cash adjusted revenues amounted to $53 million compared to $52 million in the same period last year. Our net loss for the first half of 2012 amounted to $4.5 million. In particular non-cash items include -- $3.2 million related to the amortization of above market acquired time charters; expenses of $1.4 million relating to the amortization of stock-based compensation; and a loss on the sale of a vessel of $3.2 million associated with the sale of Star Ypsilon.

  • Excluding the non-cash items our net income for the first half of 2012 amounted to $3.2 million or $0.04 earnings per share. The increase in vessel operating expenses for the six months ended June 30, 2012 versus the same period in 2011 was due to the increased number of vessels in our fleet and the increased average vessel size.

  • Voyage expenses increased to $14 million for the first half of 2012 from $11 million in the first half of 2011. The expense for chartering in third-party vessels to serve shipment under a COA amounted to $4 million and $10 million for the six-month period ended June 30, 2012 and 2011 respectively. Excluding these expenses the increase in voyage expenses was mainly due to the fact that our vessels were under five voyage charter agreements compared to none for the same period last year.

  • Excluding stock-based compensation, G&A expenses amounted to $3.9 million compared to $6.4 million last year. The decrease was mainly due to the nonrecurring severance payments to our former CEO and to our former CFO in the first half of 2011 totaling $2.9 million.

  • I would like now to give you a brief update on the drybulk markets. Please turn to slide 14 for an update on the supply side. Dry bulk vessels deliveries have continued at a record high pace and have kept the DBI under pressure for the past several months. We expect deliveries in 2012 to continue at a high pace but should slow down afterwards.

  • As you can see on the top right hand graph, deliveries in the period 2008 to 2011 have had an average slippage rate around 30%. Based on annualized figures of vessel deliveries up to July 2012 deliveries are expected to reach about 115 million dead weight tons. This implies that slippage in 2012 could be at somewhat lower levels compared to recent years.

  • On the bottom right-hand graph we provide the order book for the remainder of 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015. As you can see, while the drybulk industry still has to go through a process of absorbing a very large number of new vessels that will come into the market this year, the current order book for 2013 onwards stands at significantly lower levels. It is worth noticing that the order book for 2013 is around the same level as the five remaining months of 2011, 2012.

  • What is important and encouraging is the fact that bulk carrier demolition during 2011 increased to an all-time record of 22.3 million dead weight tons and this year's scrapping activity has continued to increase. (technical difficulty) and an increasing number of younger vessels elbow out older vessels leaving their owners with no real alternative other than scrapping.

  • As you can see in the lower left graph, scrapping activity was very high in the January to July period with 18.3 million dead weight tons of dry bulk vessels going to the scrap yards. Continued strength in scrapping activity should slow down the fleet's net growth rate which effectively could provide some relief to the supply pressures.

  • Please turn now to slide 15 for an update of Chinese demand. We believe that the fundamentals behind the demand strength we have seen in the past years are still intact and will ensure the strength of demand growth in the future. China's increased energy needs have turned the country from a traditional coal exporter to the single biggest coal importer in the world.

  • As China continues growing fast we expect the need for energy in general and coal-fired energy in particular to continue growing as well. The growth of this trend has been outstanding; from significant coal trade surpluses up until 2005 we have come to a cold trade deficit of around 230 million tons during the last 12 months.

  • What is impressive is the growth potential of this trade. China's coal production during the last 12 months was more than 3.6 billion tons. So as you can understand, the 230 million tons of net imports represents only around 6% of the total. The potential for additional coal imports is large and we believe that once the additional mining capacity comes online we will see rapid growth in this trade.

  • On the two graphs on the bottom of the slide you can see how Chinese iron ore and coking coal imports have developed over the last years. Coking coal imports have also been growing at very healthy levels and we believe that this trend will continue in the future along with new mining capacity coming online.

  • As most of you know, iron ore demand growth has been the single most significant demand force during the years of the drybulk shipping boom. This is unlikely to change in the near future in our opinion. We expect Chinese iron ore imports to continue growing based on undeniable geological factors.

  • Chinese domestic iron ore quality is very low compared to international commercial mining standards. Therefore the additional cost of the processes needed for Chinese iron ore to become commercial acceptable make its final costs very high. Chinese mines cannot be seen as sustainable long-term sources of iron ore because once new cost effective supply becomes available for other sources these mines will be uncompetitive and therefore face survival issues.

  • In other words, we believe that even with zero growth in iron ore and steel demand there is loads of room for growth in Chinese iron ore, imports from the substitution of domestically mined with important iron ore. I would like now to pass the floor back to Mr. Capralos for his closing remarks.

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • Thank you, Simos. In conclusion, we believe that Star Bulk is well-positioned from a financial and operational point of view to sustain the Company through the near-term challenging environment and weather the storm. On top of our high-quality modern fleet Star Bulk also has one of the most diverse groups of high-quality charters in the sector.

  • As we discussed earlier in our presentation, our campaign to bring our fleet management in-house has provided tangible results as it has led to a meaningful increase in our efficiency and transparency while consistently lower operating costs. We have moderately leveraged balance sheet as compared to our peer group, a healthy liquidity profile and an experienced and dedicated management team.

  • Most importantly, we believe that our financial condition is stable. We currently have no capital expenditure related to new buildings and we have $38 million of cash in the banks.

  • From an operational perspective our Capesize fleet is mostly covered for the next two to three years and at above market charter levels while our operating expenses are being continuously optimized. We believe we have all the elements in place to continue with our fleet growth and renewal strategy.

  • Without taking any more of your time, I will now pass the floor over to the operator. In case you have any questions, both Simos and myself will be happy to answer them. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). Natasha Boyden, Global Hunter.

  • Natasha Boyden - Analyst

  • Talk a little bit about your balance sheet. Obviously you have made a lot of comments that you have a moderately levered balance sheet and your balance sheet is in a better position than a lot of your peers. What can we expect the Company to look at in terms of growth opportunities here or in de-leveraging the main focus? And then following on that, what about further share buybacks given the discount to NAV here?

  • Simos Spyrou - CFO

  • Hello, Natasha, this is Simos. In terms of the buybacks, we have an active buyback plan of up to $3 million that is the mandate we've got from the Board, and the general mandate has been voted by the shareholders is up to $30 million.

  • We have spent about $900,000 up to now and we are trying to balance between reducing our cost which is valuable these days and buying back shares in the market and of course the dividend that we continue paying to the shareholders. So, we try to let's say opportunistically buy shares from the market and keeping the (inaudible) costs on the balance sheet.

  • Now in terms of deleveraging or the acquisitions, obviously as you understand the cash that we have is not enough to acquire new vessels even at this environment. But we are trying to maintain as much as we can in order to be able to weather the storm if the values of the assets continue dropping and we have any issues with the covenants in our current bank facilities.

  • Natasha Boyden - Analyst

  • And then just to flip the coin, if you do look at your fleet here do you have any ships that you would be interested in selling given what scrap prices are?

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • Natasha, this is Spyros now. Right now we believe that the market is in a distressed state and therefore we don't think that at these levels we should be selling any of our vessels.

  • Natasha Boyden - Analyst

  • Makes sense.

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • The only vessel that we may be having an issue is the oldest Cape that we have which is a 21-year-old Cape, the Sigma, which is working right now in the spot market. And if we see any upturn in the market, I guess then we may consider selling her. Otherwise we will use her until -- if we see that we will manage to get charter rates that exceed the operating expenses. Otherwise we will end up scrapping her.

  • Natasha Boyden - Analyst

  • Okay, yes, the Sigma was what I had in mind when I was asking that question. But that is helpful. In terms of your chartering strategy, obviously you said on the call that you would, at this point in the cycle where rates are, consider putting them on short term charters or in the spot market. At what point do rates have to go up enough for you to think about putting them on longer-term charters?

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • Well, right now what we do is we don't have this issue with the Capes as most of the Cape fleet is already chartered for throughout 2013 and 2014. For the Supramaxes we think that the market is less volatile and at those levels we still have some -- we will create some operating gains.

  • The problem is that you don't want to charter your fleet long term at today's low levels and then to see the market start going up. That is why we will opportunistically use our fleet. And whenever we see that there is a hike in the charter rates then we may get into longer-term charters for the Supramaxes.

  • Natasha Boyden - Analyst

  • Great, thank you very much for your time.

  • Operator

  • Chris Snyder, Sidoti & Company.

  • Chris Snyder - Analyst

  • So of course the Chinese iron imports have been definitely slowing and I know with the expansion plans they have they obviously have to resume again at some point. I was hoping you guys could provide a little insight as to when you think they will start importing again at high levels.

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • The reduction in commodity prices overall, we think that will make China -- and everybody else but primarily China -- start importing again at increased levels. With iron ore being below $100, that we haven't seen for a long time, we think that China will start importing because mainly their cost of producing is much higher than what will be the cost of importing. And therefore we think that it really makes sense for them to start importing and not producing locally. And that could change dramatically the market in favor at least for the Capesize fleet.

  • Chris Snyder - Analyst

  • Okay, yes. And when you guys reference the voyage contract agreements on the two vessels, is that basically just like a spot market contract, like a short term spot market contract?

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes, that is correct.

  • Chris Snyder - Analyst

  • Okay. And I notice a lot of your contracts are above market rates for a pretty good period in 2014 and beyond. Are there any of those companies that you guys are worried about not being able to build fulfill the contracts or are you pretty confident in all of them?

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • Well, as you can see on the charters that we have, first of all they are all first top class charters and we don't see anybody not being able to fulfill the contracts. Especially because when we say about top mining companies we mean really the top mining companies of this world. And therefore the [crate] rating and such that does not create any issues regarding fulfilling their contracts.

  • Chris Snyder - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks a lot -- thanks a lot, guys. That is it for me.

  • Operator

  • Harsha Gowda.

  • Harsha Gowda - Analyst

  • So I have a few questions for you. Number one, with the Polaris is there any risk of losing the charter because of these operational issues and these unforeseen actions?

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • With Polaris the biggest loss that we're having is that we do not get paid right now for -- as the vessel is out of employment. We do not foresee of losing the charter as in our charter contract it says that we may lose the charter only if there is negligence from the side of the owners, something that has not happened (multiple speakers). The engine failure has to do with the manufacture and it is under the warranty of the manufacturer.

  • Harsha Gowda - Analyst

  • Do you expect to receive basically a 100% recovery on both the lost hire and also cost of repair?

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • This is -- not for the loss of hire because we are not insured on the loss of hire. But we are going to get 100% from the warranty of the shipyard who constructed this new building. And if we don't get 100% from them, then the insurance company will cover the rest minus the deductible that we have, which is not a meaningful amount.

  • Harsha Gowda - Analyst

  • Now what are the impacts -- there is a few global impacts I wanted to speak to you about. Number one, a lot of these major miners are cutting their capacity plans going forward. So how does that affect the expectations you have of the future supply/demand? Does it already incorporate these developments? I guess in the last few weeks and months these announcements have been made, how does that impact you?

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • Well, it is normal that mining companies may stop their investment programs in view of the following commodity prices. On the other hand, we expect at those levels that China will start importing even more. Therefore I don't think that it can be sustainable to have such low prices. And in the short term I think that's the increase of demand from China will boost the imports of -- and therefore it will be very positive for the Capesize vessel.

  • If it remains in the longer term then, yes, we would expect a slowdown in the activity. But that would take a long time and because the production cost in China is much bigger than what are the international prices, we expect that we will see increased demand and shift from local production to imports.

  • Harsha Gowda - Analyst

  • Are you seeing also an increase in -- or at least the belief or expectation of increases in ton miles in thermal coal from the US over to Asia, especially with the big drop in coal demand in the US?

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • Well, that is exactly what we start seeing and we hear that there is much more increased exports from the US to China; we have not experienced it because we have not done it with our own vessels because our Capes are already in long-term charter to some of the big mining companies. But that is what we hear around in the market. This has not been reflected yet in the charter rates that Capesize vessels are getting.

  • Harsha Gowda - Analyst

  • Okay, that is a good positive in the future I guess. Now what about the drought impacts in the US on the Supramaxes? Because I have been hearing -- I believe DS Norden just mentioned that they see a potential drop in Supra because of this drought. What do you feel about that?

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • It could be that I cannot really assess the impact of the drought until the worldwide production of --.

  • Harsha Gowda - Analyst

  • Okay, okay. No, I just wanted to see if you incorporated that into your view. Now a couple more questions. I think, as you know, as a long-term shareholder we have a lot of respect for how efficiently you have operated the Company, there is no issues with the operational management.

  • I think one big issue that I've brought up in the past is the capital management and a few issues an earlier caller mentioned about share buybacks versus dividend payments -- which creates the most value for shareholders? I think clearly with the share price where it is now I think even the most simplistic analysis would show that using cash for share buybacks would be much better, or even better using -- conserving cash especially if the shipping market stays weak like this going forward.

  • I think one big concern I have as a shareholder is that it doesn't make sense to use money to pay dividends right now, it's not a good use of capital and I think it might endanger the balance sheet going forward and I would love your points on that.

  • And the second issue I have is one -- the big reason we believe that the stock price has fallen so far away from the value of -- even the current very, very depressed value of the assets is because this great fear among minority shareholders that there is going to be a big dilution coming. And I think if you can rid the fears of that that you will see an immediate impact to the share price, possibly even to the point where the NASDAQ delisting issue is no longer relevant.

  • So, could you answer those two -- or at least those two issues? Again, number one, dividends in the face of the current market. And number two, this overhang of this fear of a dilution.

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • I will try, even though they are quite difficult issues. On the one hand we have shareholders who value that we continue paying them a dividend every quarter. And this total dividend that we are paying this quarter is about $1.2 million because we have approximately 80 million shares for -- at $.015 per share makes $1.2 million. And for many of our retail shareholders it is very important to receive this dividend which today is quite substantial compared to what they get in the market or which has a yield close to a double digit yield.

  • On the other hand, we understand that you say from your side that it's a much better use of our cash to keep the cash and buy back shares. But the same thing could be done by some of the shareholders who can use the dividend they get to buy some more shares from their side. But we will consider further. We decided in our Board meeting today to extend and to pay dividends again for this quarter, but we'll rethink about it in the future.

  • Every time we give a serious thought to what is best for the shareholders of the Company and that is what we decide. Right now the most important thing is to make sure that we are back into the NASDAQ requirements and to go back to the rules of NASDAQ that our stock should be trading above $1 and therefore we have next week, next Friday and 10 days from today our AGM and we hope that most of our shareholders will vote in favor of a proceeding to the reverse stock split as we have proposed to the shareholders.

  • We do not have the specific -- a specific reverse stock split number, but we have said it is going to be either for 1 to 5 or up to 1 to 15. So we don't know exactly at what level we should do it. So we believe that we should be back to the normal NASDAQ rules.

  • (Multiple speakers). Regarding dilution, of course what we'll try to do is always keep the options open and to have every shareholder have the possibility to keep and maintain his position without diluting him, whatever we do. We will not surprise anybody by any overnight offering.

  • Harsha Gowda - Analyst

  • Okay, great. And that is -- since you mentioned (technical difficulty) was one of the fears -- one of the fears realized last year when the offering took place I guess with insiders. And one issue that I think remains (inaudible), do you have an updated shareholder list? Because that was a pretty sizable offering last June. We would like to know who was involved in it and what parties were involved.

  • And I think that the current shareholder list doesn't seem to update all holdings of possibly the Chairman and also his entities, related parties, et cetera. So if we could have that as soon as possible I would really appreciate that.

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • No, we take a note on that and we will come back to you on that.

  • Harsha Gowda - Analyst

  • Okay, great. And last point I would like to make is I think it is very impressive how your operational efficiency keeps improving and I think you guys are doing a fantastic job in these challenging markets. So confidence in the management is not in any way stressed at this time. Thank you very much.

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • Thank you very much for making these positive comments on the management. And I will pass your comments to the rest of the Board.

  • Harsha Gowda - Analyst

  • Well, I will see you at the meeting, so, thank you.

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • See you at the meeting, yes, next week.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). There are no further questions at this time. Please continue.

  • Spyros Capralos - President, CEO & Director

  • Well, thank you all for taking the time to join us today for our earnings conference call. Our Company is focused on future profitability and growth and to continue rewarding our shareholders with a dividend. Our 2012 third-quarter results are scheduled for November. For the time being thank you very much and we hope that all of you will vote in favor in our AGM for next week. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.