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  • Operator

  • Thank you for holding, and welcome to Rockwell Automation's quarterly conference call. I need to remind everyone that today's conference call is being recorded. (Operator Instructions)

  • At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Steve Etzel, Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasurer. Mr. Etzel, please go ahead.

  • Steven W. Etzel - VP of IR & Treasury

  • Good morning, and thank you for joining us for Rockwell Automation's Second Quarter Fiscal 2018 Earnings Release Conference Call. With me today is Blake Moret, our Chairman and CEO; and Patrick Goris, our CFO.

  • Our results were released earlier this morning, and the press release and charts have been posted to our website. Both the press release and charts include reconciliations to non-GAAP measures. A webcast of this call will be available at that website for replay for the next 30 days.

  • Before we get started, I need to remind you that our comments will include statements related to the expected future results of our company and are, therefore, forward-looking statements. Our actual results may differ materially from our projections due to a wide range of risks and uncertainties that are described in our earnings release and detailed in all of our SEC filings.

  • So with that, I'll hand the call over to Blake.

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Thanks, Steve, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us on the call today. I'll start with some key points for the quarter, so please turn to Page 3 in the slide deck.

  • This was another good quarter for us. As we expected, organic growth was up 3.5%. From a vertical perspective, heavy industries performed well and grew above the company average in the quarter, led by growth in oil and gas, mining, metals and semiconductor.

  • Consumer grew above the company average as well. Transportation declined in Q2 on tough year-over-year comps. Through the first half of the year, Automotive was down a little more than 5%. Sequentially, our Global Automotive business was up in Q2.

  • Revenue associated with Information Solutions and Connected Services, which represent new value from the Connected Enterprise, once again grew double digits. From a regional perspective, growth was again fairly broad-based. The U.S., our largest market, grew 3.6% organically. We saw good growth in heavy industries, partially offset by softness in Automotive.

  • Oil and gas grew double digits in the U.S. for the second quarter in a row. EMEA was down about 1% in the quarter. Asia grew about 4%. China sales were up, in line with the company average. China had very strong orders performance in Q2.

  • Latin America was up over 15%, led by strength in Mexico and Brazil. I'll make a few additional comments about our performance. Logix was up 5% organically in Q2 compared to last year, including strong growth in CompactLogix, which has grown double digits 6 quarters in a row. Our process business delivered another good quarter and was up about 9% year-over-year.

  • We are pleased with our financial performance in the quarter. Adjusted EPS was up 22% and free cash flow was very strong. In the first half of the fiscal year, organic sales grew 4.4%, adjusted EPS grew 17%, segment operating margins were up 150 basis points year-over-year and free cash flow conversion was 108%. This is very good financial performance for the first half of the year.

  • Patrick will elaborate on our second quarter financial performance in his remarks. I want to spend a minute talking about our investment and capital deployment priorities. Our first priority is to invest in our business to drive organic growth. In January, we described the types of investments we would be making to accelerate profitable growth and increase long-term differentiation. We're ramping up a number of these investments.

  • For example, software development and commercial resources (technical difficulty) to fuel the growth of our Information Solutions and Connected Services offerings; accelerated investments to expand our process capabilities; a new electric vehicle Center of Excellence to be colocated with one of our software development teams based in San Jose, California; and investments in facilities as well as technology, training and benefits to enhance employee engagement globally.

  • On the topic of capital deployment. I'm pleased to report that this morning, we announced a 10% dividend increase. This is the second increase in the last 12 months. This increase reflects our confidence in the Connected Enterprise strategy and our ability to deliver sustainable cash generation.

  • Let's move on now to our outlook for the balance of fiscal 2018. The global manufacturing environment remains favorable and macroeconomic indicators are positive. We believe that we are in the early stages of a manufacturing expansion cycle, and we will benefit from the very broad array of industries that we serve. Our customers are focused on driving productivity in their operations, which quite simply is our mission.

  • Turning to guidance. We continue to expect our fiscal 2018 organic sales to be up 5% year-over-year at the midpoint of guidance and expect full year reported sales to be about $6.7 billion. Consistent with our January guidance, we expect that heavy industries will be the largest growth driver, followed by Consumer. Transportation will be flat to down a little for the fiscal year. Taking into account our strong first half results and our outlook for the remainder of the year, we are increasing our full year adjusted EPS guidance range to $7.70 to $8. Patrick will provide more detail around sales and earnings guidance in his remarks.

  • Before I turn it over to Patrick, let me add a few closing comments. As I mentioned before, we grew double digits in Information Solutions and Connected Services in Q2. On Monday of this week, we announced significantly enhanced capabilities in our FactoryTalk Analytics platform. This is software that turns production data into actionable information that drives productivity. A sizable part of the investments that I mentioned earlier are targeted in this space. This offering is enhanced by a very strong network of partners.

  • We're expanding our Academy for Advanced Manufacturing, which is training veterans for smart manufacturing jobs. The second class graduated this week and graduates are going to work at manufacturers throughout the U.S. For example, 5 of these veterans will be starting work at an electric vehicle start-up in Illinois.

  • I also want to highlight an important recognition we received this quarter. As you have heard me say many times, the dedication of our employees, partners and suppliers makes a difference at our customers and is the key to our success. It's not only what they do, but how they do it that helps drive business results and value for our stakeholders. That's why I was so pleased when we, for the 10th time, received the Ethisphere Award naming Rockwell Automation as one of the world's most ethical companies. This recognition is a testament to our strong culture of integrity.

  • With that, I'll turn it over to Patrick. Patrick?

  • Patrick Goris - Senior VP & CFO

  • Thank you, Blake, and good morning, everyone. I'll start on Slide 4, which provides our key financial information for the second quarter.

  • As Blake mentioned, we had a solid quarter of the fiscal year with reported sales up 6.2%. Organic growth was in line with our expectations at 3.5%. Currency translation contributed 3.9 points of sales growth and the fiscal '17 Q4 divestiture reduced sales by 1.2 points. Segment operating margin was 20.9%, up 190 basis points compared to last year. A margin tailwind from organic growth, good productivity performance and lower incentive compensation was partially offset by higher investment spending.

  • General corporate net expense of $18 million was down $3 million compared to last year. That's normal variability and timing of corporate costs. Adjusted EPS of $1.89 was up $0.34 compared to the second quarter of last year, an increase of 22%. The year-over-year increase in adjusted EPS is mainly the result of strong operating performance. Free cash flow was very strong in the quarter, $359 million or 148% of adjusted income.

  • A few additional items to cover not shown on the slide. Average diluted shares outstanding in the quarter were 128.5 million, down 1.8 million from last year. We repurchased 2.5 million shares in the quarter at a cost of $465 million. Through March 31, we are a little ahead of pace to get to the $1.2 billion full year target we shared with you last quarter.

  • At March 31, we had $935 million remaining under our share repurchase authorization. And finally, our second quarter fiscal '18 GAAP results reflect an $11.5 million adjustment to the provisional tax charges that we took in our first quarter related to the Tax Act. As I mentioned on the call last quarter, we are excluding tax charges related to the Tax Act from adjusted EPS.

  • Slide 5 provides the sales and margin performance overview for the Architecture & Software segment. This segment had about 7% sales growth. Organic sales were up 2.5% year-over-year and currency translation increased sales by 4.4%. You will recall that last year, this segment had an exceptional second quarter with about 14% organic sales growth, so certainly a tough quarter to lap. For the quarter, segment margin expanded 190 basis points year-over-year to 28.4%. Margin tailwind from higher sales, good productivity and lower incentive compensation was partially offset by higher investment spending.

  • Moving on to Slide 6, Control Products & Solutions. Reported sales were up 5.7% for this segment. Organic sales growth was 4.4%. Currency translation contributed 3.6% and the 2017 divestiture reduced sales by 2.3%. Organic growth in our solutions and services businesses in this segment came in at 6%.

  • Growth in the product businesses in this segment was similar to the Architecture & Software segment growth on an organic basis. Operating margin for this segment increased 180 basis points compared to Q2 last year, primarily due to higher sales, good productivity and lower incentive compensation expense. Another quarter of good margin performance for this segment.

  • Book-to-bill performance for our solutions and services business in this segment was 1.08 in Q2 following an exceptionally strong 1.2 in Q1 and 1.17 a year ago.

  • The next slide, 7, provides an overview of our sales performance by region. Blake covered most of this slide in his remarks, so I will just point out that for Q2, emerging markets' organic growth was up about 7% and then for the first half of fiscal '18, we saw broad-based growth across all regions.

  • Before I turn to guidance, let me make a couple of comments about the recently announced tariffs, some of which have little to no impact on our business and some of which we're still reviewing.

  • With regards to Section 232 tariffs on steel and aluminum enacted in March 2018, we do not buy large quantities of commodities including steel or aluminum. While we have seen increases in the price of steel and aluminum in anticipation of these tariffs, the impact of these tariffs on our input cost is immaterial to our overall results. Similarly, the tariffs implemented by China in early April do not impact our products.

  • The other group of tariffs related to certain goods imported into the U.S. from China that have been proposed by the U.S. following the Section 301 investigation, as well as the additional tariffs that China has proposed on U.S. goods imported into China. As you know, these tariffs have not been enacted yet and there remains a lot of uncertainty about the particulars of what may be implemented, including any exemptions.

  • We're analyzing the potential implications to our business, including opportunities that may be available to mitigate impacts of these tariffs should they get enacted. Given the fluid nature of the matter, however, it is too soon to discuss any specifics.

  • This takes us to Slide 8, guidance. We continue to project sales of about $6.7 billion, with organic sales growth within a range of 3.5% to 6.5%. Our assumptions for currency remain largely the same. We continue to expect the tailwind from currency translation to be about 2% and the sale of the business in fiscal '17, of course, will remain about a 1 point headwind to sales. Our organic growth guidance of about 5% at the midpoint implies that the organic growth in the second half of fiscal '18 will be about 5.5% compared to 4.4% organic growth in the first half of fiscal '18. The expected increase of organic growth in the second half compared to the first half of the fiscal year is driven by higher expected growth rates in our solutions and services businesses and, to a much lesser extent, by higher backlogs in our product businesses at the end of Q2.

  • We continue to expect segment operating margins to be a bit below 20.5 -- 21.5%. First half segment margin was a bit above that and as we increased investments, we expect segment margin in the second half to be about 21%. This implies full year core earnings conversion of about 35%, consistent with our November and January guidance. General corporate net expense is expected to be between $75 million and $80 million for the full year.

  • We believe the full year adjusted effective tax rate will now be closer to 20.5%, half a point lower than our January guidance. We continue to target about $1.2 billion in share repurchases for fiscal '18 and now expect fully diluted shares outstanding to be about 127.5 million for fiscal '18.

  • We are increasing the adjusted EPS guidance range to $7.70 to $8. At the midpoint, this is a $0.10 increase compared to our January guidance. This reflects our strong first half performance and the favorable tax rate and share count compared to our January guidance. At the midpoint, this represents 16% year-over-year EPS growth on 6% higher reported sales, primarily due to strong operating performance. And finally, we now expect free cash flow conversion for fiscal '18 to be about 105%.

  • In summary, we had another solid quarter, and we expect fiscal '18 to be another year of good financial performance for us. With that, we'll move to Q&A. Steve?

  • Steven W. Etzel - VP of IR & Treasury

  • (Operator Instructions) Operator, let's take our first question.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Your first question comes from Rich Kwas from Wells Fargo Securities.

  • Richard Michael Kwas - MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • On -- Blake, on auto, so flat to down a bit here in the first half, expect flat for the year, flat to slightly down for overall Transportation. What kind of visibility are you starting to build for '19? It looks like from a launch standpoint, at least in North America, a number of launches for the Detroit-based manufacturers goes up pretty significantly in calendar '19. So I just wanted to get your thoughts on when you would start to see some of the revenue benefit from that.

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes. I think the outlook for '19 for both traditional automotive as well as electric vehicle continues to look positive. So we saw a return to MRO spend in the traditional business in Q2. We had mentioned some comments of concerns at the end of Q1, and we saw those more traditional levels restored. And then, from some of the commitments that we've received in the quarter, '19 is shaping up to be generally positive for us.

  • Richard Michael Kwas - MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • Okay. And that -- would that apply both to tire and auto? Or how would you...

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • There's been some good activity in tire as well, if we talk about North America. I would say the particular area of activity for '19 has been in the electric vehicle side in terms of new commitments. And that's really around the world. We've seen some important projects that we've been named on in China as well as in the U.S.

  • Richard Michael Kwas - MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • Okay. And then on Europe, so down in -- it looked like project timing. How should we think about kind of cadence of organic growth here for the next couple of quarters? Face some tougher comparisons in the second half. Anything, I guess, maybe Patrick, you can help on it with regards to gaining some organic growth?

  • Patrick Goris - Senior VP & CFO

  • Rich, is that specific to Europe or just in general?

  • Richard Michael Kwas - MD & Senior Equity Research Analyst

  • Well, in general and then just a comment on Europe would be helpful.

  • Patrick Goris - Senior VP & CFO

  • Yes. I'll start with Europe. And so Europe was down about 1 point in this -- in the second quarter. And obviously, we had a tough comp in Europe. Europe was up over -- about 12% last year and what we see is the timing of some of the projects that creates some noise. With respect to timing of organic growth for the balance of the year for the whole company, we think that the year-over-year growth will be somewhat similar in Q3 and in Q4, maybe a little bit more weighted in the fourth quarter of the year. But I don't expect big differences in overall growth rates, Q3 versus Q4, maybe a little overweighted in Q4.

  • Steven W. Etzel - VP of IR & Treasury

  • This is Steve, if I can add as well. We did see some moderate sequential growth through the quarter and then from Q1 to Q2, as we mentioned, the automotive shipments did see sequential growth.

  • Operator

  • The next question comes from Steve Tusa from JPMorgan.

  • Charles Stephen Tusa - MD

  • Can you talk about the competitive environment a bit? There's been some -- obviously, ABB kind of moved in and stoked up their discrete presence. Are you seeing anything there globally where they're -- where B&R or some of the smaller guys are coming more effective. Any change there?

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Not really. I mean, as we've talked about before, B&R was a good competitor when they were independent. ABB will be a -- continue to be a strong competitor with B&R, but we're not seeing any wholesale change in terms of the competitive environment based on the combination.

  • Charles Stephen Tusa - MD

  • Okay. And then, I guess, with the start to the year, I mean, to get to the high end of the range, it seems like you need a pretty significant pick-up in the second half. How should we kind of -- how should we think about that? I mean, was there any thought to kind of taking off the high end of the range on sales given the start to the year, even though the EPS moves up, obviously, because of better margins and a little bit of tax? It just seems like that's -- or is that what you're seeing in your business? You still think there's a shot at getting to that high end of the range?

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • You know, as the mix is biasing towards heavy industries, heavy industries has greater exposure to projects and those are going to come in a more lumpy fashion. We've seen good book-to-bill over the last couple of quarters. We see some projects, large for us that could come any time. And so when those projects come and when we start to recognize revenue from those projects, could have a significant impact on the end of the year. So that's why we have that baked in to the high end of that range.

  • Charles Stephen Tusa - MD

  • Okay. One last one. What is your auto guidance for the year on growth -- organic for auto, global?

  • Patrick Goris - Senior VP & CFO

  • Flat to slightly down, Steve.

  • Operator

  • The next question comes from Jeffrey Sprague from Vertical Research.

  • Jeffrey Todd Sprague - Founder and Managing Partner

  • Just back a little bit, maybe a different take on kind of the competitive environment question. Obviously, you've invested a fair amount in Connected Enterprise, and you had mentioned a couple of things today. But I wonder if you -- just kind of reevaluating the landscape, the approach of kind of us and our friends. Are you leaving too much of your growth upside to your friends and partners? Do you need to tweak what you're doing or how you're doing? I'm sure this is a evolutionary process, something you don't wake up in the morning and say, "Yes, we need to shift gears." But is there, Blake, any evolution in your thinking on how to competitively address the market?

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes. I think it's a good question and I think evolution is the way to look at it in that we're constantly evaluating. Given the pace of the technology changes, what we need to do, what is core to us versus what we can provide a more robust solution to our customers by partnering. And obviously, acquisitions are a part of that as well. So things that, maybe 10 years ago, we thought would be something best left to partners or things that we might be looking at more as a part of what our core capabilities need to be going forward, in terms of technology as well as expertise. And so we're constantly looking at that. What that doesn't mean is that we think we need to have a single, monolithic, closed approach to having every application that our customers might need and every bit of expertise because we don't think anybody's going to have best-in-brand, top-to-bottom there.

  • So to be able to provide the best solution, to provide an open framework, for our customers to be able to accommodate existing installed base as well as what they might need in the future to take advantage of small, nimble companies that have good ideas that can fit into our framework, that's still very much a part of our strategy, but we're constantly evaluating what we need to own versus what we need to partner with. And those partners, again, are going to be a combination of big, well-known names like Microsoft as well as smaller companies that have good ideas that can fit into our system and can take advantage of our market access.

  • Jeffrey Todd Sprague - Founder and Managing Partner

  • Would it follow from that, that your -- the size of your M&A would increase though? That the small vertical bolt-on, even I'd put Maverick in that category right, gives you chemical? Is that still the game plan? Or do you think the size of what you need to do or want to do is increasing?

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • I'd say if you look at our funnel, it's increased, both in terms of the range, including some larger acquisitions than we might have thought about before, as well as the number. And in particular, our focus areas. So we've talked about our priorities for acquisition, information solutions, connected services, increasing access in some of the emerging markets. We're looking first at the strategic fit and then we're looking at the financial impact and we're very active in that area of the company.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Scott Davis from Melius Research.

  • Scott Reed Davis - Founding Partner, Chairman, CEO & Research Analyst of Multi-Industry Research

  • Blake, I -- you made a comment, you just said in your prepared remarks that we're in the early stages of a manufacturing cycle. Is -- how is this playing out? I mean, based on your experience, at least, you've -- things seem a little bit weird or a little bit slow for this time in the cycle, meaning I know auto probably hurt you 100 basis points or so. But even if you back that out, growth maybe 4.5%, doesn't really feel like an up-cycle as in a traditional way. And I think as Steve noted, Steve Tusa noted, you need to pick up in the back half of the year to hit your growth numbers. So my question really is, do you see it in your order books in a real way, in your customer commentary, that this, indeed, is an up-cycle? Or are your comments more based on macro data?

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes. I think there's a combination of factors that we triangulate to arrive at that outlook. First of all, our business, over a long period of time, ever since I've been in the business, is correlated to industrial production. And obviously, industrial production forecasts will change when you get to the actuals. But if you look at actual IP over decades, it's correlated pretty well to our growth, where our growth is a multiple of that. IP, particularly in the U.S., is at the highest rate that it's been at in years. Now the mix by vertical is certainly changing. There's no question that auto has moderated from what growth rates we saw last year. But again, we're seeing positive program commits. As their industry transforms to one that's more weighted to EV, then it's going to be volatile. And everybody starting from a small base, so run rates and growth quarter-to-quarter is going to be less meaningful than in a mature business. So from a macro standpoint, we see positive signs.

  • In terms of our order book and our backlog, Patrick mentioned before, we had a historically high book-to-bill in Q1. We had good book-to-bill in this quarter. We're chasing projects we think that are very reasonable, that are good fits for our capabilities, but the mix is changing. And so you're going to see more on the heavy industry side, amidst the fundamentals of consumer. And then I've talked before about transportation. From a regional standpoint, emerging markets, high single digits, we still see that thesis playing out as the growth of the middle class creates demand for things that we're good at helping manufacturers produce: Consumer, Automotive. And then there's obviously semiconductor and other heavy industries that are strengthening. So from a variety of directions, that gives us confidence that we are in the early stages.

  • But I agree with you, Scott, about the weirdness of this. I mean, capital with our customers has still remained on the sidelines compared to some of the historic ratios and we're -- we think that our fundamental mission of helping them increase productivity, whether they have in their minds large capital projects or not, is still in our wheelhouse to be able to help them be able to save money and time.

  • Scott Reed Davis - Founding Partner, Chairman, CEO & Research Analyst of Multi-Industry Research

  • Yes, makes sense. And then just as a follow-up and it doesn't need to be a long follow-up. But electric vehicles, from what you sell, particularly given that you're not huge in the drive train historically, they don't seem to be that different from a Rockwell perspective. So what do you think requires you to kind of separate out a Center of Excellence and plop yourself in the middle of kind of the action, if you will, and -- does it -- do you think it really is a different market for you that you need to approach differently in some way, shape or form? Or is this just the way to showcase your capabilities a little bit closer to maybe some of the upstarts, start-ups, et cetera?

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Scott, a lot of the manufacturing processes are the same. I mean, assembly, paint, trim and chassis, those are very similar whether it's traditional automotive or it's EV. Obviously, you have the battery fabrication, the winding that's different. I think what prompts us to create a Center of Excellence is the nature of the companies. These are start-up companies and while a lot of them have veterans that they poached away from traditional manufacturers, these are smaller companies and they know that they have to differentiate not only in their technology but in their business models and to be able to embed ourselves in that flow of ideas is a big part of what prompted us to open this Center of Excellence.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from Steven Winoker with UBS.

  • Steven Eric Winoker - MD & Industrials Analyst

  • I just wanted to follow up on the -- given the process in other growth and heavy industry growth you're talking about versus auto, et cetera, can you maybe just once again quantify the impact of that as you're looking into the second half on margin? Just the margin mix impact of the relative vertical growth.

  • Patrick Goris - Senior VP & CFO

  • Steve, your second half compared to the first half? Or second half...

  • Steven Eric Winoker - MD & Industrials Analyst

  • Yes. So in other words, just as process continues to outgrow the other areas, in heavy industry, my understanding is that, that profit weighs a little bit more there. And I know you've got solutions and services picking up. So just looking kind of the margin mix impact of the various growth rates within the segments, sort of all rolled up.

  • Patrick Goris - Senior VP & CFO

  • So back half of the year, you can think it -- it might be a few tenths of a point negative from an overall company perspective.

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • As we modeled out longer term to grow the process to be sure it has additional labor content in it, which is going to be a little less margin rich. On the other hand, when those customers are buying hardware and then they're doing the integration or the VARs are doing the integration into complete solutions, it tends to use a lot of large processors. And so the margin contribution of that when it's sold as products is actually pretty good. So we see, as Patrick said, some dilution if the mix were to change completely over, but there's some puts and takes there.

  • Patrick Goris - Senior VP & CFO

  • Yes. And Steve, to Blake's point, it's one of the reasons that within the Architecture & Software segment, which was up 2.5% in the quarter, Logix did actually much better than that. It was up about 5% because it has a much better exposure across industries, including heavy industries.

  • Steven Eric Winoker - MD & Industrials Analyst

  • Okay, great. That's helpful, and then as a second topic on the follow-up. Just getting back to kind of your overall kind of capital deployment. You mentioned the second dividend increase in the last 12 months, but still sitting on net cash, still obviously a lot of overseas, but tax changes. You talked with Jeff about increasing M&A to some extent, but I would still, even if it's number and size of deals, I would make the assumption, it's not outside kind of the long-term Rockwell capital deployment approach. So what can you do? Or maybe it's not feel a need to, but to maybe take up capital deployment especially if you feel like we're at the early stages of an industrial expansion?

  • Patrick Goris - Senior VP & CFO

  • Yes. I think, Steve, a couple of things. One, Blake mentioned that in the pipeline, we have larger-type deals than what we have done in the past. We have, in terms of capital deployment in January, we did increase substantially the target for share repurchases for this year, from $500 million to $1.2 billion. And as we just announced today, we're increasing the dividend. And so I think it's fair to say that we've already significantly increased the amount of capital we're deploying. We've always said that if there is tax reform, we have access to the excess non-U.S. cash, that we would redeploy that over a period of 18 to 24 months. And I think that we are in the process of doing so. And we want to be careful because if we see an attractive opportunity to deploy capital, we want to keep all the flexibility and doing the share repurchase over a period of time provides us that flexibility.

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes. We still remain primarily an organic growth story. We think that the Connected Enterprise value proposition, which really brings strengths from all parts of the company together, remains as vibrant as ever, but we're going to use all of our strengths and some of that is going to be our strong financial position as well.

  • Steven Eric Winoker - MD & Industrials Analyst

  • Right. But it sounds like based on those numbers, that you wouldn't be surprised in a year from now, certainly to be well within kind of a normal net debt position from here given all of that.

  • Patrick Goris - Senior VP & CFO

  • I think over a period of, say, 18 to 24 months, that is not unreasonable.

  • Operator

  • Next question comes from Julian Mitchell with Barclays.

  • Julian C.H. Mitchell - Research Analyst

  • I just wanted to circle back to this -- the notion that you're sort of ramping up investments. Because I guess, the SG&A is down year-on-year in Q2. Your CapEx, I think, in the first half is down high-teens year-on-year. And your incremental margins moved up a bunch in Q2, even with the top line slowing. So I wonder -- I realize there's a lot of moving parts in each of those buckets, but could you maybe quantify at all how much, let's say R&D is going up, or what kind of higher investment spend in dollars you're referring to?

  • Patrick Goris - Senior VP & CFO

  • Yes. So Julian, you mentioned SG&A. When we talk investments, a lot of our investments go towards research and development. Our R&D expenses are not part of SG&A. They sit in gross profit. And if you look at our gross profits performance, you'd see that there's not been a big change there in the gross profit margin. And one of the reasons is that our R&D spending has actually gone up in that area. From an overall spend point of view, you may have heard us talk in the past about a $2 billion-ish base of overhead spending. For the full year, we're targeting about a 3.5% increase, which is about $70 million. We've seen a $70 million increase year-over-year. Of that $70 million, we've seen about 1/3 in the first half of the year. And so the other 2/3, we project, and it's included in our guidance, will happen in the back half of the year.

  • Julian C.H. Mitchell - Research Analyst

  • Understood. And then my follow-up, I guess, would be around what you're seeing in China. A bunch of your discrete automation peers, I think, had really high growth numbers there in the March quarter. Yours slowed down, I think, despite an easier comp. So maybe just talk a little bit about what you saw there in revenues. And then also orders. Is that where some of those large projects that you think may hit your P&L in the second half are coming in? Is it in China? Maybe just some color on that market.

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Sure. Some of those big projects are, in fact, in China. So in Q2, the growth that we saw was driven by a diverse range of industries. It included consumer, semiconductor, water treatment, chemical, metals. So it was across a spectrum. I would say the -- maybe the most important story in China was the very strong order development there, and that included projects as well as flow business. A couple of examples that we can talk about is a particular electric vehicle manufacturer gave us a pair of multi-million dollar orders, one for their Chinese operations, one for a new facility in the U.S. with our MES software. So this sits squarely in that new value from the Connected Enterprise and is our software orders that obviously have associated maintenance and support along with that. And that really differentiates us from some of those other discrete suppliers in the industry, that we can link the real-time control hardware with the information software and services that helps them get even greater productivity. There's some other projects that we're chasing in heavy industries in China. And so I would characterize the outlook of our people in China as quite positive. And again, it's across a variety of industries.

  • Julian C.H. Mitchell - Research Analyst

  • So in China, you think you should grow, what, slightly above the company average this year then?

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes.

  • Patrick Goris - Senior VP & CFO

  • A little below 10% for the full year.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from Andrew Kaplowitz with Citigroup.

  • Andrew Alec Kaplowitz - MD and U.S. Industrial Sector Head

  • So heavy industries, as you know, a lot of different end markets within heavy industries. Would you say what gives you confidence in the second half pick up in organic growth that you talked about, is that you're seeing broad-based growth in heavy industries? Whether it's oil and gas, semicon, mining. Maybe you could give us a little bit more color on the different markets within heavy industries and if any of those markets are actually picking up as we speak.

  • Patrick Goris - Senior VP & CFO

  • Yes. Andy, in my comments, I referred to the higher growth second half versus the first half of the year and I referred to higher growth rates, particularly in our solutions and services businesses. One of the reasons why we have a good level of comfort with that is that a lot of that already sits in our backlog at the end of March. As you know, our solutions and services businesses tend to run at about a 6 months backlog. And so we have a little bit more visibility in those businesses for the back half of the year.

  • Andrew Alec Kaplowitz - MD and U.S. Industrial Sector Head

  • That's helpful. And then, obviously, there is some concern regarding short cycle growth momentum slowing down. So maybe, Blake or Patrick, you could tell us what your distributors are telling you. Have they seen any slowdown in orders? The cadence of the months within the quarter? Did you see generally steady growth? Are they doing any sort of de-stocking? Any color you could provide would be helpful.

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • I think the feedback from the distributors, matching what we've seen in our results, is general sequential improvement through the quarter.

  • Patrick Goris - Senior VP & CFO

  • And looking for another good year.

  • Operator

  • Next question comes from Noah Kaye from Oppenheimer.

  • Noah Duke Kaye - Executive Director and Senior Analyst

  • Nice performance on the operating line. At the same time, we had FX as a pretty significant contributor to revenue. So I was wondering what the impact to margins was from FX. Was it dilutive? Accretive? How to think about that.

  • Patrick Goris - Senior VP & CFO

  • It had no impact on segment margin, Noah. It had an EPS benefit, but it had no impact on segment margin in the quarter versus prior year.

  • Noah Duke Kaye - Executive Director and Senior Analyst

  • Okay. Okay. So that's pure operational improvement. Great. And then I think you've been asked about the M&A pipeline a couple of different ways, but, I guess, I would just like to understand what is sort of a reasonable expectation for full year acquisition spending amounts? Obviously, a little bit light to start the year, but you commented to a very healthy and expanding pipeline.

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes. We've targeted in our overall sources of revenue growth 1 point or more a year from acquisitions. And that obviously, as I mentioned, is going to be predicated first, on the strategic fit and then we'd look at the financial impact. So over a period of time, 1 point or more of growth. You'll see some years that might be less than that. You'll see other years that will be considerably more as we move forward. But it's an active pipeline. I've talked about the diversity of what's in that pipeline. There's also diversity in terms of what's getting close and what's a little bit further out. So you have now, near and far playing out and that's what we want. We want to charge that pipe so that there's a steady stream of opportunities that are maturing going forward.

  • Operator

  • Next question comes from Joseph Ritchie with Goldman Sachs.

  • Joseph Alfred Ritchie - VP & Lead Multi-Industry Analyst

  • So my first question, I know it's not a huge end market for you, electronics, but I'd be curious to hear any commentary that you have on just intraquarter, what you're seeing on trends. It's been an end market that some other folks have flagged as being pretty choppy, so I'm curious to hear your commentary there.

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Sure. Well, starting with the headline. We expect double-digit growth in semiconductor for the year. It's -- they're investing a lot. We have a good solution there, particularly when you look at the software that's being used for overall supervisory control, building management-type of applications. It's been big for a long time in Asia and some of the orders we saw in China were associated with semiconductor facilities in the last quarter. But the impact is beyond Asia as well. And so we're seeing Europe, for instance, having contribution from semicon as well. It's about 5% of our business, but at those growth rates, I look at it as somewhat similar to life sciences in that when you have those large growth rates, they can have an impact on our overall results and we have some highly differentiated solutions there.

  • Joseph Alfred Ritchie - VP & Lead Multi-Industry Analyst

  • Sure, that makes sense, Blake. Maybe following on, one for Patrick. Just in thinking about the repatriation timing. Patrick, maybe you can give us an update on what you're seeing on being able to repatriate the cash that's abroad. And should we be thinking about roughly a $2 billion number that will ultimately come back to the U.S.? Any color there would be helpful.

  • Patrick Goris - Senior VP & CFO

  • Yes. So we have so far this year, we have repatriated about $900 million of cash. That's why you see a reduction in our short-term debt and of course, some of that we redeployed through share repurchases. By the end of this fiscal year or no later than the end of this fiscal year, we expect our short-term debt to be close or at 0. The $2.4 billion of excess non-U. S. cash, it's going to take us, what we said in January, a little bit over a year to bring it all back home. And so some of it will take us into early '19. And as I said earlier on the call, our expectation is to redeploy it over an 18 to 24 months period because it provides us a lot of flexibility to do it over that period of time.

  • Operator

  • Next question comes from Joe Giordano from Cowen.

  • Tristan Margot - Associate

  • This is Tristan in for Joe. I personally believe that it's difficult to identify historic changes if you live through them. So with that in mind, how do you know -- how will we know when Industry 4.0 evolution is complete? I would be interested in your take on that.

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes. I would say for Industry 4.0 or a customer's journey to their connected enterprise, China Manufacturing 2025, all these different terms for integrating control and information. An important principle to keep in mind is that a customer is never done with that. They all embark on that journey at different stages of maturity. So some still need to put basic automation building blocks in place or update decades-old technology. Others have that fundamental real-time control and information and they're looking to integrate additional productivity tools in their enterprise. But wherever they start, that journey doesn't end. There's low-hanging fruit to be sure. I mean we see when we're providing; for instance, remote monitoring for customers that they can reduce unplanned downtime by as much as 50%. Others have more modest goals, so they might be around more rapid start-up and so on. But you're never done. Now looking at the maturity and how it impacts our results in terms of those concepts, we are seeing the move that we talked about before as we go from pilots to more enterprise customer engagements. So people have tried, let's say pilots. They've gotten confidence that they can save money with some of these concepts and they're moving them out to larger deployments. And so we're seeing the number of customers that are looking at multisite rollouts of these technologies and services increasing.

  • Tristan Margot - Associate

  • And then if I can follow up on this and your investment in AIs. What do you think is the biggest barrier to manufacturers adopting AI?

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • So well, in terms of taking advantage of AI, I think, because manufacturing is largely installed base, very few manufacturers have the luxury of starting with a clean sheet of paper. So they're dealing with older technology that's running their facilities. And as they upgrade, they have opportunities to implement new techniques. I think another challenge is the way that the effective use of artificial intelligence spans multiple organizational silos within a company. So you have the expertise on the plant floor that knows how the operation should run and knows the traditional sources of downtime and lack -- lost productivity in those operations. And then you have the IT world that understands these new tools, and being able to bridge that world to converge IT and OT is really the biggest opportunity for these companies to take advantage of both the technology as well as the expertise. One is not effective without the other.

  • Operator

  • Next question comes from Robert McCarthy with Stifel.

  • Robert Paul McCarthy - MD & Senior Analyst

  • So 2 questions. First, just maybe you can talk a little bit about your regional sales. I mean, obviously the organic growth in LatAm was strong and off a reasonable base, but could you talk about like areas where you're probably getting some share gain versus some share challenge? And maybe you can overlay it with a comment about the Logix growth rate.

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes. So we see in general, a continued path to share gains in our core products, and we've talked about products like Logix and our view, Stratix network switches, Kinetix motion control and PowerFlex drives. Those have been on a pretty steady upward tick in terms of share as we triangulate what we report, what our competitors report, what the industry reporting companies tell us. While we watch the fluctuations on a quarterly basis, obviously, share is fairly volatile in that respect. It's also a lagging indicator, so you don't get a real good information in the real time. But we think our share is improving. When we see the kinds of growth that we're seeing in places like Latin America, we think there's no question that we're taking share. Indicators tell us that we're continuing to notch up share in the U.S. So we feel comfortable that what we are selling and the market access is differentiated.

  • Robert Paul McCarthy - MD & Senior Analyst

  • Okay. And as a follow-up, I just want to kind of turn kind of the excellent capital allocation questions up to 11 here. I mean, you've had a pretty significant market break in your stock. You've turned down a pretty material bid higher from another company. You have a view of what your peak earnings could be and what your stock is worth and at these prices, given the market break, it could be 40% to 50% higher. Why wouldn't you consider being more aggressive deployment of capital on an accelerated basis to maybe buy back 10% of the company?

  • Blake D. Moret - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes. So Rob, we're going to continue -- we're going to see fluctuations over near term in the stock price, but I'll go back to some of the comments from last fall that remain true today, a few months later. First of all, our strategy is working. The Connected Enterprise strategy and bringing that to life for customers is bringing them value and we're seeing growth from that. Second, as you point out, we do have the strength to use our balance sheet to create additional value for shareowners. And as Patrick said, there's a variety of ways that we can do that. Our first priority is around improving the long-term differentiation of the company and to support the organic growth. We have an active acquisition pipeline, and we do expect to use more of our capital than we have in the past in that respect. And then, we've already increased the share repurchase. We just increased the dividend today. And so we do intend to do that, but we're not going to lurch into a new strategy because our strategy is working and we're bringing long-term value. And we think that's borne out by the superior value creation that we provided over a variety of past-looking measures. Thanks a lot.

  • Steven W. Etzel - VP of IR & Treasury

  • Okay. That concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining us.

  • Operator

  • That concludes today's conference call. At this time, you may disconnect. Thank you.