Radiant Logistics Inc (RLGT) 2021 Q1 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • This afternoon, Bohn Crain, Radiant Logistics Founder and CEO; and Radiant's Chief Financial Officer, Todd Macomber, will discuss financial results for the company's first fiscal quarter ended September 30, 2020. Following their comments, we will open the call to questions. This conference is scheduled for 30 minutes.

  • This conference call may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. The company has based these some forward-looking statements on its current expectations and projections about future events. These forward-looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties and assumptions about the company that may cause the company's actual results or achievements to be materially different from the results or achievements expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements.

  • While it is impossible to identify all the factors that may cause the company's actual results or achievements to differ materially from those set forth in our forward-looking statements. Such factors include those that have in the past and may in the future be identified in the company's SEC filings and other public announcements, which are available on the Radiant website at www.radiantdelivers.com.

  • In addition, tax results are not necessarily an indication of future performance.

  • Now I'd like to pass the call over to Radiant's Founder and CEO, Bohn Crain.

  • Bohn H. Crain - Founder, CEO & Chairman

  • Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining in on today's call. We are very pleased to report another quarter of solid financial results as we continue to navigate the challenges presented by the COVID-19 pandemic. We reported revenues of $175.9 million and net revenues of $46 million for the quarter ended September 30, 2020, which were down on a comparable prior year basis, largely as a result of the impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic. Fortunately, however, through a number of cost savings and other strategic initiatives, we were able to manage our operating costs to mitigate this negative financial impact and keep our bottom line largely intact.

  • For the quarter ended September 30, we also reported net income of $3.1 million, adjusted net income of $6.5 million and adjusted EBITDA of $9.2 million. In addition, we also continued our positive trend with our adjusted EBITDA margins, which were up 270 basis points to 20.1% from 17.4% for the comparable prior year period.

  • Also over the same period, we generated $13.4 million in cash from operations, finishing the quarter with net debt of only $10.4 million. The pandemic, as unfortunate as it is, has reinforced the benefits of our non-asset-based variable cost model, diverse service offerings and low debt levels.

  • Although the overall demand for transportation services has been significantly impacted, we continue to see slow and steady improvement across many industry verticals that we serve, along with a broad-based tightening of capacity as we head into peak season. With the diversity of our customers and service offerings, the strength of our balance sheet, the scalability of our technology and our extensive carrier partner network, we are certainly optimistic about the economy, its ultimate recovery and the opportunities that it will present for Radiant. In the months ahead, we will continue to closely monitor how we and the economy are progressing and look forward to reengaging in acquisition opportunities and/or our stock buyback activities as the opportunities present themselves.

  • With that, I'll now turn it over to Todd Macomber, our CFO, to walk us through our detailed financial results, and then we'll open it up for some Q&A.

  • Todd E. Macomber - Senior VP & CFO

  • Thanks, Bohn, and good afternoon, everyone. Today, we will be discussing our financial results, including adjusted net income and adjusted EBITDA for the 3 months ended September 30, 2020.

  • For the 3 months ended September 30, we reported net income of $3,088,000 on $175.9 million of revenues or $0.06 per basic and fully diluted share. For the 3 months ended September 30, 2019, we reported net income of $3,235,000 on $200.5 million of revenues or $0.07 per basic and $0.06 per fully diluted share. This represents a decrease of approximately $147,000 over the comparable prior year period or 4.5%.

  • For the 3 months ended September 30, 2020, we reported adjusted net income of $6,520,000. For the 3 months ended September 30, 2019, we reported adjusted net income of $6,484,000. This represents an increase of approximately $36,000 or approximately 0.6% or less than 1%. We reported adjusted EBITDA of $9,226,000 for the 3 months ended September 30, 2020, compared to adjusted EBITDA of $9,678,000 for the 3 months ended September 30, 2019. This represents a decrease of approximately $452,000 or approximately 4.7%.

  • With that, I will turn the call back over to our moderator to facilitate any Q&A from our callers.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Jason Seidl with Cowen.

  • Jason H. Seidl - MD & Senior Research Analyst

  • Bohn, I was hoping you can give us a sense of sort of how the demand progress as you move through the quarter in each of your divisions and sort of how we should look at modeling out your fiscal year second quarter?

  • Bohn H. Crain - Founder, CEO & Chairman

  • I guess I'll start off, and when it gets hard, I'll pass it over to Todd for some of the details.

  • Todd E. Macomber - Senior VP & CFO

  • That's what CEOs do, right, when it gets hard?

  • Bohn H. Crain - Founder, CEO & Chairman

  • Yes. Exactly. So I guess I'll start -- we'll start north and work our way south. So in Canada, they really have held up very well through the kind of the cycle in its entirety through a combination of the industry verticals that they serve and how they've been able to continue to perform and grow our bundling strategy of bundling kind of value-added warehousing service with our core transportation service offering has really served us well in Canada. And that group continues to do very, very well as we alluded to in some of our prepared comments.

  • And I think as you're keenly aware from all the time you spend in the transportation sector, capacity has been extraordinarily tight as of late. It really started on the West Coast, but it's slowly been kind of extending across the balance of the U.S. So capacity has been very, very tight, and Clipper has been a beneficiary of that. So more recently, they really begun to hit their stride with intermodal picking up. If you'll remember, certainly there was a time when markets were soft. The asset-based carriers got very aggressive with their pricing, effectively took freight that they wouldn't normally take. That impacted Clipper negatively as capacity has tightened. Intermodal and trucks have gotten more disciplined in their pricing and so freight volumes and customers that historically we would have served at Clipper are coming back to us. And so we're seeing that on that side.

  • Forwarding, which is obviously is the biggest piece of the business, there are certainly a handful of verticals that continue to be negatively impacted. Cruise line retail store fixturing, trade show will be some of last return. But many of the other sectors, which we always participated in but in more meaningful ways, more recently, whether it be PPE or life sciences or other time-critical activities have been doing well in this environment. So that kind of gives you, I guess, a general kind of overview in terms of kind of getting down into the nitty-gritty of how we would think about modeling the upcoming quarters.

  • I'll turn the microphone over to Todd and encourage him to be conservative.

  • Todd E. Macomber - Senior VP & CFO

  • All right. So as we look at OpEx, I mean things are definitely coming back. I would expect, as a percentage of revenue, it's going to be similar to what we're seeing in the current quarter. It's going to improve as a percent as we continue to onboard new stations. And if you remember, we bought it -- brought in a couple of stations in February, so that ends up manifesting itself in a different area. Personnel costs are going to be much closer to what I would say with Q3. We did a lot of cost cuts and kind of management of that in Q4, and it also impacted a little bit of Q1, but I would anticipate that the personnel costs are going to be much more similar to what it was in Q3, pre-COVID. SG&A...

  • Bohn H. Crain - Founder, CEO & Chairman

  • But before you leave that kind of line item, one of the callouts I would make, Jason, is we've been kind of consciously reinvesting in sales resources to help drive organic growth, so we've had a handful of incremental sales hires kind of in this downtime. And so we're -- we'll see a little bit of incremental cost associated with that initiative and certainly, hopefully, over time, some additional gross margins to be rewarded for those efforts.

  • Todd E. Macomber - Senior VP & CFO

  • Okay. And then SG&A, again, we were watching everything we could. So I would expect SG&A also to increase similar to Q3. Basically, we're getting back closer to the levels where we were in the past. Depreciation and amortization, I mean, I would basically take the current numbers. Those shouldn't -- those aren't going to change much quarter-over-quarter, and those are really the big drivers in regards to the modeling. I mean the interest expense is going to be down a little bit. We keep paying down the debt, so consequently, we're going to have a little bit less interest.

  • Jason H. Seidl - MD & Senior Research Analyst

  • I do want to ask about that, but I also want to make sure how should we think sort of about your net revenue margin. Are things slowing down on the sort of buy versus sell back and forth that you guys always deal with? Is 2Q going to be somewhat easier than 1Q?

  • Todd E. Macomber - Senior VP & CFO

  • Yes. I'd say, obviously, it's really hard to predict, but I think what we're seeing right now, we're going to continue to see for the foreseeable future. Like Bohn said, capacity is tight, and I'm guessing it's going to continue for a while. So I would expect Q2 to kind of play out similar to what we're seeing right now. I don't know if you have any different opinion, Bohn.

  • Bohn H. Crain - Founder, CEO & Chairman

  • Yes. No. I think these margins will hold through peak, certainly through this next quarter to meet my general expectation, then we'll kind of see what -- kind of what happens kind of on the backside of the holiday -- traditional holiday push. But at least for this next quarter, I would think kind of current environment will continue at least for this next quarter and perhaps beyond, depending on -- obviously, there's a lot of moving parts now with global trade and presidential transitions and some of those things that will ultimately have an impact. And part of that will ultimately also be impacted by how quickly the asset base guys get out their checkbooks and start reinvesting in incremental transportation assets.

  • Jason H. Seidl - MD & Senior Research Analyst

  • All right. How should we think about your balance sheet? I mean because clearly, it's been strengthening here. You paid down more debt this quarter. What are the sort of the leverage numbers that you're shooting for, again, acquisitions aside right now?

  • Bohn H. Crain - Founder, CEO & Chairman

  • Well, I guess we should start with a hoot and holler of some sort. I mean we're approaching being effectively debt-free. So you think about kind of the economic environment that we've come through and our ability to continue to deleverage the balance sheet, I think, is pretty extraordinary. So I think you should think our balance sheet is really pretty right now, so that's how I would start there. It really is pretty. I'm particularly proud of really what we've been able to do with our balance sheet, where we stand, what that means in terms of financial flexibility and actionability to do deals should opportunities present themselves.

  • But all kidding aside, I would think our kind of normalized leverage would be 2 -- plus or minus 2.5x debt -- excuse me, 2.5x EBITDA. And obviously, we could flex up a little bit there if we had to or circumstances warrant it. But on a normalized basis, that's kind of how we would think about it.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Mark Argento with Lake Street Capital.

  • Mark Nicholas Argento - Senior Research Analyst, Founding Partner & Head of Institutional Equities

  • Just wanted to touch on the kind of the current M&A environment. I don't know if you're seeing some more opportunities given the environment we're in, some of the smaller guys, maybe talk a little bit about that opportunity to put some capital back to work.

  • And then just wanted to touch on, obviously, a big topic today have been a vaccine and the opportunity for you guys to participate and potentially some type of distribution as that comes to fruition.

  • Bohn H. Crain - Founder, CEO & Chairman

  • Yes. Yes. So as a reminder, kind of pre-COVID, we were trying to kind of reactivate some of our M&A initiatives, and we're actively trying to cultivate pipelines across what we think of as all 3 of our platforms. So we were looking to kind of build a pipeline for Canadian-type M&A, a pipeline for our U.S. brokerage M&A, for Clipper as well as our forwarding operations. So there's been 3 different threads that we -- is how we got to organize our thinking around M&A opportunities. So we'll be kind of reengaging in that process. I think it will be -- it's certainly an interesting environment right now to think about M&A because generally speaking, everybody's trailing 12-month numbers are either unusually down or unusually good, right?

  • So as we think about kind of normalized earnings power and being able to get deals cut with potential sellers, that will be something that will have to be worked through. Having said that, I think the kind of the earnout structure that we do use will lend itself to ability to get things done as we find the right types of opportunities. Having said that and to kind of come back to one of our earlier themes, I don't know where else we can find, call it, $35 million to $40 million EBITDA business that we can acquire at a multiple of 7 or 8x with no integration risk, and that company's RLGT.

  • So we'll continue as sexy, if that's the right word, M&A is and is interested in as we are in doing it. We're also going to be grounded in kind of what our underlying -- what our own underlying trading multiples look like as we think about allocating capital. And that will remain a very viable alternative way we think about deploying capital.

  • Mark Nicholas Argento - Senior Research Analyst, Founding Partner & Head of Institutional Equities

  • On the vaccine or any other types of initiatives, I know you guys do quite a bit with the government, just any updates there given the news in there?

  • Todd E. Macomber - Senior VP & CFO

  • Nothing in particular that we can share at this point in time. We are -- we were certainly active with FEMA and Project Airbridge. We continue to enjoy a good relationship with FEMA. We're -- it would be premature to say what, if any, opportunities come our way. I don't think it's entirely clear what role FEMA itself will precisely play and that there would be different -- certainly different contingents, executing different strategies. I would think directly or indirectly, we will participate one way or another even if it was as simple as vaccines are going to use -- going to require a lot of temperature-controlled equipment. Just a call on temperature-controlled equipment is going to drive pricing around that solution set, and Clipper does some temperature control business.

  • So at its extreme, even if we didn't directly participate in the distribution of the vaccine, I think Clipper will benefit from the distribution of the vaccine and what's going to happen within its own temperature-controlled solution set as an example. But there's, obviously, a lot of people chasing those opportunities, and we certainly won't be shy or bashful in our attempts to kind of have our opportunities to participate. And that can take the form of either the vaccines directly or indirectly with all of the kind of the delivery system and kits that are associated -- that will be associated with the ultimate administration of the vaccines and ongoing testing for the virus.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from my Mike Vermut with Newland Capital.

  • Michael David Vermut - Founder

  • Yes. I got to say, it's amazing when I take a step back and I think about the progress that Radiant has gone through. I was trying to think about this today. If I remember correctly, back in 2014, we were breakeven-ish on an adjusted earnings basis. Now we're at double-digit EPS per quarter, roughly $0.10, $0.15. Back then, we had more than -- I think at $55 million or $60 million of net debt, and now we're approaching 0. If I calculated correctly, I was looking at this. We're on -- we're a lot higher than that right now but if I normalize at maybe $25 million plus of free cash flow run rate, and our stock is pretty much in the exact same spot.

  • It's amazing to me when I look at it, the progress that you've made on the balance sheet, on the earnings and the fact that it hasn't been discovered yet. Now if we put that free cash flow back into stock buybacks at these gift levels, there's a dramatic shrinkage in outstanding shares that can happen in an extremely rapid and accretive pace. You mentioned you're comfortable at 2.5x debt-to-EBITDA. If you layered that debt on there, that's practically half of our market cap. It's hard to see any kind of acquisition out there that equals what the accretiveness of Radiant. How -- if you don't see those acquisitions, how rapidly in '21 and '22, if the stock stays around here, would you be willing to deploy the capital back into the stock?

  • Bohn H. Crain - Founder, CEO & Chairman

  • Well, that's the old, "how do you eat an elephant one bite at a time?" So I think we'll take a measured approach. And I guess, let me back up and say, we're going to continue to monitor closely the health of the economy and our health, and we don't want to take anything for granted or be cavalier in our approach to the market in our own circumstance. So we'll continue to be measured in our approach. And so as we would think about -- we always think about stock buyback and deployment of capital in part in the context of opportunity costs and make sure that we don't kind of shoot all of our bullets and not continue to have some financial flexibility to be able to take advantage of a really interesting M&A opportunity should it come along. So I don't think you'll -- I can't envision us doing some tender offer as an example and buying in a bunch of our shares in a single WACC. I think we'll take more of a quarterly approach and kind of pick away at it over time, like we had begun to pre-COVID and just kind of work through it that way.

  • Michael David Vermut - Founder

  • Actually, look, if it stays at these levels, you can do a lot of picking away at with just the free cash flow, forgetting about taking on any leverage. Looking back, it's incredible, I guess, what you guys have done through these last 2 quarters, right, with coronavirus, with the cost saves. Looking at the flip side, I know everyone is thinking about, we've participated with FEMA, PPE movement, vaccine movement, that's great upside potential, but really looking on the opposite side of this, can you -- how much of our business was exposed to certain areas of the economy that are going to really get a push from the opening up of the full economy, of cruise lines, trade shows, store frontage? I got to believe that whether it starts to open up in 6 months that, that's going to be a dramatic tailwind for us. It's been amazing how you've stemmed the losses and you actually come out of this looking phenomenal. But what's the tailwind as we look ahead 2 quarters from now? And how much, I guess, damage has been done from the absence of those end markets?

  • Bohn H. Crain - Founder, CEO & Chairman

  • Yes. So I don't think we want to get super granular on that, but painting with a broad brush and kind of in the early days when people were asking kind of what's the impact on your business, we were seeing 30% to 35% degradation in our -- kind of in the darkest weeks or months of the business. And I think we've probably recovered half, if not more than half, of that. So again, with painting with a broad brush, there's probably 10% to 15% degradation in our gross margin line item that hasn't been recovered yet because of the softness in some of these categories.

  • Now we have to be a little bit careful in trying to push that number all the way to the bottom line because a lot of that business is actually serviced through our agency station locations, so a chunk of that will -- there's a kind of inherent offset in that degradation in part because of the operating station commissions. But again, coming back to kind of the high level point, there's probably 10% to 15% gross margin restoration as things come back online.

  • Michael David Vermut - Founder

  • Excellent. Another 1 I'll just throw out there. Going through this, and I'm sure it's become worse through it. Most of our competitors are highly levered. So if I remember correctly, 4 or 5 to some are 7x levered. We've gone the opposite way through this, right, and gone to basically close to getting to be debt-free. Have you seen any agents or some of the smaller guys looking to break away and knocking on our store for M&A? And on the flip side, customers that are looking at us and saying, while Radiant is strong, the financially strong and sound player right now, we're going to start moving business to Radiant away from the higher leverage players?

  • Bohn H. Crain - Founder, CEO & Chairman

  • Again, without getting too granular, certainly, some of those conversations are happening both at the station level and at the customer level. But at the same time, I would say, it can be difficult to affect some of those transitions. If, for example, an existing target customer has a policy that they're not accepting visitors, right? So sometimes, it's hard to get that face-to-face meeting that would help enable a new opportunity to occur. But those things are slowly opening up, right? We're slowly getting more and more of those meetings to kind of happen in real-time and on a personal basis.

  • And we certainly -- it's been kind of an ongoing theme. I think if we kind of look over time and then at our progress, kind of the opportunities for us to participate in what I'll call larger, chunkier type RFPs and to win larger incremental pieces of business continues to improve. And so we're -- and I think that's reflective of a lot of things, our size, our scale, people becoming more familiar with us, our financial strength, breadth and depth of service offering and so on.

  • Michael David Vermut - Founder

  • All right. Well, guys, look. It's a phenomenal job that we've done. It's an impressive last couple of quarters, and it's amazing that we're still at this valuation with the progress you've made. But if you take advantage of it with buybacks, it's an opportunity out there. So congratulations.

  • Bohn H. Crain - Founder, CEO & Chairman

  • Thanks, Mike.

  • Todd E. Macomber - Senior VP & CFO

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our next question comes from David Campbell from Thompson, Davis & Company.

  • David Pearce Campbell - Senior VP, Research Analyst & Institutional Sales Partner

  • Is there anything you can say to help us understand the September quarter, that is the revenue change for each of the months, July, August and September? Is there any noticeable difference in how much it was going down in those months relative to how September was relative to July, for example?

  • Bohn H. Crain - Founder, CEO & Chairman

  • That's not something we get particularly detailed on, on a month-by-month basis, but it is fair to say that there was a steady increase month-to-month over the course of the quarter.

  • David Pearce Campbell - Senior VP, Research Analyst & Institutional Sales Partner

  • Sequential increase, you mean, from month to month?

  • Bohn H. Crain - Founder, CEO & Chairman

  • Yes.

  • David Pearce Campbell - Senior VP, Research Analyst & Institutional Sales Partner

  • Well, that's certainly encouraging. And the December quarter will be another quarter when you have comparable numbers compared to the September quarter, but maybe not. Maybe December will be up from December. Although it's usually, seasonally, it's not a good quarter. And you mentioned expenses going up with the increase in revenues. Is that -- you can't take advantage of the decrease in salaries and related costs that's sustainable when you get into more revenues?

  • Bohn H. Crain - Founder, CEO & Chairman

  • Well, we -- when -- kind of in the thick of it, we did some pretty dramatic cost reductions across the board just to make sure we were durable through the pandemic. As a reminder, I myself took a 50% pay cut. And the leadership team -- everybody took a meaningful pay cut. It was the proverbial passing of the hat to make sure that we were durable through what was the unknown at the time. And as we're finding ourselves on better footing, we're restoring those compensations for folks where we can. So it's as much that as anything else in terms of us kind of acknowledging there's going to be an increase in payroll.

  • David Pearce Campbell - Senior VP, Research Analyst & Institutional Sales Partner

  • Right. Right. Right. Well, certainly nice to have that with its matching up -- if you match it up with increases in revenue. So we're going to be watching that pretty closely. I think you probably will, too, obviously. Keep that situation.

  • And SG&A, in terms of SG&A, are there any changes in SG&A that you can sustain at lower levels when the revenue goes up?

  • Bohn H. Crain - Founder, CEO & Chairman

  • No. We certainly have had some kind of facility rationalization. I'm thinking of in L.A., in particular, where we've been able to do some cost takeout. So there will be some level of kind of permanent improvement, if you will, on the SG&A line item as we made some kind of structural changes within our forwarding segment around that.

  • Operator

  • It looks like that was our final question.

  • Bohn H. Crain - Founder, CEO & Chairman

  • Thank you. Let me close by saying that we remain very bullish on our prospects here at Radiant and the scalable non asset-based platform that we've built. With the diversity of our customers and service offerings, the strength of our balance sheet, the scalability of our technology and our extensive carrier partner network, we are certainly optimistic about the economy, its ultimate recovery and the opportunities that it will present for Radiant.

  • At the same time, we remain patiently persistent in our pursuit of our long-term vision to leverage our multi-brand strategy and scalable back-office infrastructure to support further consolidation in the marketplace, which we believe, over time, will continue to deliver meaningful value for our shareholders, our operating partners and the end customers that we serve. Thanks for listening and your support of Radiant Logistics.