羅致恆富 (RHI) 2012 Q1 法說會逐字稿

Hello and welcome to the Robert Half International first quarter 2012 conference call. Our hosts for today's call are Mr. Max Messmer, Chairman and CEO of Robert Half International; and Mr. Keith Waddell, Vice Chairman, President and Chief Financial Officer. Mr. Max Messmer, you may begin.

Thank you, and hello, everyone. Before we begin, we would like to remind you, as usual, that comments made on today's call contain predictions, estimates and other forward-looking statements. These statements represent our current judgment of what the future holds and include words such as forecast, estimate, project, expect, believe, guidance and similar expressions. We believe these remarks to be reasonable but would remind you that they are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. We have described some of these risks and uncertainties in today's press release and in our SEC filings, including our 10-Ks, 10-Qs and today's 8-K. We assume no obligation to update the statements made on this call.

Now let's discuss the first quarter. Global revenues for the first quarter were $1.02 billion, an increase of 15% from the first quarter of 2011. Income per share was $0.34, up 88% from the $0.18 per share reported in the first quarter of last year. Cash flow from operations during the first quarter was $23 million. Capital expenditures were $10 million. We paid our stockholders a cash dividend of $0.15 at a cost of $21 million.

We also repurchased 1 million RHI shares for a total of $29 million. There are approximately 5.1 million shares still available under our Board approved stock repurchase plan. We were pleased with the financial results for the quarter, which were the result of continued strong demand for our specialized staffing and consulting services. This is the seventh straight quarter the Company has reported double-digit year-over-year revenue growth. In each of these quarters, growth in net income and earnings per share has greatly outpaced revenue growth.

Now I'll turn the call over to Keith Waddell for a more detailed review of our first-quarter financial results.

Thank you, Max. As you noted, first-quarter revenues for the company were $1.02 billion, an increase of 15% year-over-year and a 4% increase sequentially. We calculated 63.7 billing days in the first quarter compared to 63.1 days in the first quarter of 2011 and compared to 61.0 days in the fourth quarter of 2011. The higher number of billing days had the effect of increasing first quarter 2012 sequential growth rates by 5% and year-over-year growth rates by 1.1%. The current quarter has 63.1 billing days.

Currency exchange rates reduced first quarter 2012 sequential revenues by $1 million and first-quarter year-over-year revenues by $6 million. This had the effect of reducing first quarter 2012 sequential growth rates by 0.1% and year-over-year growth rates by 0.8%.

Beginning this year, we have added a new supplemental schedule to the investor center of our website at RHI.com. It shows the year-over-year revenue growth rates for each of our staffing lines of business on both a reported basis and also a same-day constant currency basis. It further splits the data between US and non-US operations. This information is presented for each of the quarters beginning with the first quarter of 2011. We provided this data because we believe it better reflects our actual growth rate and aids in the evaluation of revenue trends over time. This data is considered to be a non-GAAP financial measure. Additional information including a reconciliation of these growth rates to reported growth rates also is available on our website.

On a same-day constant currency basis, global staffing revenues grew 16% year-over-year compared to the first quarter of 2011 with the US growing 20% and international locations growing 9% on this basis. US staffing revenues were $652 million in the first quarter of this year while international staffing revenues for the quarter were $260 million. We have 353 staffing locations worldwide including 104 locations in 19 countries outside the US.

First-quarter global revenues for Protiviti were $103 million including $78 million in the United States and $25 million outside the US. Year-over-year growth rates were 4% globally with US revenue up 9% and non-US revenue down 7%. Protiviti and its independently owned member firms serve clients through a network of 71 locations in 22 countries.

Now let's look at gross margin. First-quarter gross margin in our temporary and consulting staffing operations was 35.6% of applicable revenues. This was a 125 basis point increase over the first quarter of last year and only a 16 basis-point decline from the fourth quarter of 2011. We were very pleased with our ability during the quarter to adjust our pay bill spreads to absorb the anticipated state unemployment tax increases and also the absence of prior quarter workers compensation credits.

Temp-to-hire conversions also rose modestly during the quarter. Our mix of permanent placement revenues increased to 9.1% of staffing revenues for the quarter versus 8.6% a year ago. Together with the higher temporary and consulting gross margins previously discussed, this resulted in a 150-basis-point increase in overall staffing gross margins compared to the first quarter of 2011. Protiviti's gross margin was $24 million or 23% of Protiviti revenues compared to 25% of revenues a year ago.

Turning to selling, general and administrative cost, in the first quarter, our staffing SG&A costs were 32.4% of staffing revenues. This was an improvement of 180 basis points from the prior year. First-quarter SG&A costs for Protiviti were 25.4% of revenues. This was a 130-basis-point improvement from the prior year. First-quarter operating income from our staffing divisions was $82 million or 9% of staffing revenues. The temporary and consulting divisions contributed $69 million of this amount or 8.3% of applicable revenues. First-quarter operating income from our permanent placement division was $13 million or 16% of applicable revenues. Protiviti's operating loss was $2 million in the first quarter. This was anticipated as the first quarter is typically Protiviti's seasonally weakest quarter.

Accounts receivable were $523 million at the end of the first quarter with implied days outstanding or DSO of 46.9 days compared to 48.2 days at the end of the first quarter of 2011.

Now let's turn to second-quarter guidance. We saw the following trends in the first quarter and the first few weeks of April. On a same-day constant currency basis, year-over-year temporary and consulting growth rates were up in January and down in February and March. On a same-day constant currency basis, year-over-year permanent placement growth rates were down in January, February and March. During the first two weeks of April, revenues for our temporary and consulting businesses were up 15% on a same-day constant currency basis compared to the same period last year. For the first three weeks of April, revenues for our permanent placement division were up 35% on a same-day constant currency basis compared to the same period last year. We would caution, however, that it's difficult to evaluate these trends over such short time periods.

Taking this information into account, we offer the following second-quarter guidance -- revenues, $1.01 billion to $1.06 billion; income per share, $0.32 to $0.37. It's our policy to limit guidance to one quarter. All estimates we provide on this call are subject to the risks mentioned in today's press release. Consistent with past quarters, our guidance does not include any amounts for the possible settlement of outstanding legal claims.

Now I'll turn it back over to Max.

Thank you, Keith. We had another strong quarter with continued growth across our lines of business. Year-over-year growth rates in our domestic operations accelerated during the first quarter. Economic signals were more mixed outside the United States, particularly in Europe, which affected the revenues of our non-US operations. However, we are quite pleased with our ability to control costs outside the United States. We have said before on this call and repeat now that we believe a supply and demand imbalance is emerging in the United States within many professional occupations. Unemployment rates for a number of positions in accounting and information technology, for example, are less than half of the overall US rate. In many instances, we have benefited from a better pricing environment as result of the tighter labor market for specialized help.

We also have witnessed a return to hiring by small and mid-size businesses in many of our markets. Although we serve companies of all sizes, the core of our client base is made up of small and mid-sized firms which often are less price-sensitive and tend to place a higher premium on service quality.

Protiviti will mark its 10th anniversary next month and it continues to diversify its business solutions. In addition to its foundation practice in internal audit and internal controls-related services, Protiviti offers consulting services in areas such as finance, technology, compliance, operations, litigation and restructuring. Protiviti's most significant growth areas recently have been in IT-related consulting as well as services geared toward the financial services industry.

Another reason we are optimistic about the growth prospects for Robert Half is a change we believe is taking place in the way companies staff their operations. We are seeing wider adoption of flexible staffing models by businesses, including the use of temporary and project professionals. The flexibility of variable cost labor can give companies greater control over their human resources budgets and provide access to skilled talent when and for as long as they need that talent.

At this time, Keith and I will be happy to respond to your questions. Please limit yourself to one question and a single follow-up as needed. If time permits, we will try to return to you later the call if you have additional questions. Thank you.

(Operator instructions) Mark Marcon, Robert W. Baird.

Good afternoon, excellent quarter. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about your perspective on investing behind perm at this point and how we should think about the potential margins in the perm business over the balance of the year. I recognize it's going to be different in terms of international versus US, but if you could give some color there I would appreciate it.

Sure. We were pleased with our perm quarter and particularly the profitability of our perm quarter during the first quarter. We will continue to invest in perm principally in the United States, principally in the technology sector. And outside of the US, we reduced our headcount during the quarter, as we had said we would on the prior call. For the second quarter, we will probably hold that headcount constant. It might drift down a little bit, but most of the investing is in perm US technology.

As to margins, the margins did increase nicely during the quarter. The cost control outside the US had a meaningful impact; that was the headcount reduction we had talked about. Our hope is that we can maintain those margins as we go into the second quarter in perm.

As a follow-up, can you talk a little bit about how much of your perm business is now technology-related and what the future prospects are in that?

Perm tech, I think, is around 18% of total perm and, Mark, that compares to tech temporary and consulting, which I think is 14% to 15% of total temporary and consulting. So it's a little larger percentage in perm, but it's not hugely larger. But we're quite optimistic about it, and clearly tech perm was one of the strongest parts of the first quarter.

Terrific, thanks for the color.

Andrew Steinerman, JPMorgan.

Hi, gentlemen. Keith, I think you might have confused me a little bit. When you gave your trends for January, February and March, did you switch to using year-over-year trends? Historically you used sequential trends, I believe. I think you switched to year-over-year. The first question is why.

Then could you give some interpretation because it sounded like business for temp was up in January down in February and down in March. I assume -- does that mean deceleration? And then all of a sudden, when I look at April we are still at a very solid 15%. So is my context correct, and could you give us some color?

Okay, so it is correct that we switched to year-over-year. It is also correct that the rates of growth decelerated during the course of the quarter. And it is correct that in the first part of April we reaccelerated in perm and temp stayed about the same. We went to year-over-year so that everything is consistently year-over-year. Traditionally, when we talked about the progress during the quarter, we talked sequentially and then we converted to year-over-year for the post-quarter start. That actually created quite a few calls and confused some people.

In combination with this new schedule, I would encourage everybody to go look at it on our website. It's year-over-year constant currency, constant billing days so that the schedule reports on that basis. What we report during the course of the quarter just ended is on that basis, and what we report on our start post-quarter is on that basis. So everything is same day constant currency, year-over-year.

Okay, I think that's clear, thanks so much.

Thomas Allen, Morgan Stanley.

Can you give us some color on how your major international segments did by country?

Sure. Clearly, the strongest is in Germany, where we had very strong year-over-year growth. In the following order, we also continued to have positive year-over-year growth - in Belgium, France, Australia and Canada. The major country where we had negative year-over-year growth was the UK.

Great, thanks, and then you also got great SG&A leverage in your temporary business. Was that just higher revenue with kind of a flattish employee base, or are you seeing greater productivity gains. Can you give some color there?

Well, clearly the higher revenues when we were particularly attentive to our costs, especially outside the US, where we held even the temp headcount in check, resulted in an operating leverage in both temp and perm and expanded margins. But there's nothing sexy there. It's blocking and tackling, it's more revenue from essentially the same workforce.

Okay, thank you.

Paul Condra, BMO Capital Markets

It looks like last quarter, you gave us a little more detail about gross margin and SG&A expectations for the following quarter. I'm wondering if you could do that this time with regards to second quarter.

Sure. If you look at the high end of our guidance, first of all at the revenue level, it essentially says on the temp side the year-over-year growth rates remain intact. On the perm side, the growth rates slow in part because of the monster quarter we had a year ago where we were up 44% and in part because we still have this environment where clients and candidates are simultaneously more selective, which slows down the placement cycle. So our forecast even at the high end does project deceleration for perm.

Protiviti -- seasonally Q1 is soft, Q2 generally gets better. We are projecting mid-single digit, low- to mid-single-digit year-over-year growth for Protiviti at the high end. On the gross margins, we were particularly pleased during the quarter that we absorbed the unemployment increase, the lack of workers' comp credits. We would expect to make a little more progress in the high end of our guidance for Q2.

Turning to SG&A, we got a lot of leverage, as a couple of you have observed here. We expect less leverage in the second quarter than we had in the first. And by holding the international headcount around the same, that means the US headcount increases, single digit would come through overall and result in not seeing as much operating leverage in the second quarter as the first, although we still might see a little bit. That would mean at the operating margin line, again, at the high end of our guidance, the margins would be same to a little bit expanded. Across the board, Protiviti would clearly go from negative to positive.

Frankly, it's pretty straightforward. You take current quarter margins, apply the same kind of growth rates in Q2 and you've got your high end. There's nothing particularly complicated about it.

I don't know if I could squeeze in one follow-up -- did you pass through all the SUTA increases, or are you still making ground there?

We didn't quite get all of it. The SUTA increases were about 30 basis points relative to all of 2011. We didn't get all of it. We hope to get some more of it and particularly in the quarter we are in. We dialed a little bit of that into the high end forecast, but not a lot.

Thank you.

Tim McHugh, William Blair.

I just wanted to first ask about the Management Resources segment, which seemed to pick up a little bit there. Is there any additional color on what you are seeing out of that practice?

I would say the first quarter, Management Resources probably more than any other division participates more fully in year-end close, year-end regulatory filings. It's right in the sweet spot of that activity. So if you look back to first quarter, it's particularly good for Management Resources. It was again this quarter. At least sequentially, the second quarter, the quarter we are now in, is not as good for Management Resources because you're following those kinds of trends. But they participated nicely, as they often have in the past, in the ongoing and recurring accounting activities that take place in the first quarter.

My one follow-up would be if you can update us -- I apologize if I missed this on the pricing and bill rate trends. Are there any differences by segment or practice area?

Okay, for bill rate increases, the global increases year-over-year were 3.4%, for the quarter versus the prior year. And sequentially they are up 2.1%. I would hasten to add those are global numbers. The US numbers are a fair amount larger than that, offset by some year-over-year declines outside the US.

As to differences by segments, there aren't huge stories there. To some extent, OfficeTeam has risen because we've become more selective in the type of business that we are writing in OfficeTeam. But generally, for the most part, because everybody has a middle-market client base, , the bill rate/pay rate trends are the same. And they're quite

Okay, great, thank you.

Sara Gubins, Bank of America.

Just to follow up on that last question, could you talk about pricing trends for Protiviti?

Pricing trends for Protiviti are also good. Protiviti does their annual promotion cycle, annual compensation/evaluation cycle effective January 1. So they anticipate that as they renew their contracts, the environment generally has been favorable with respect to what they have been able to do, inclusive of considering the impact of promotions to their leverage model.

Okay, great. Separately, the NFIB hiring plans index and the BLS payroll data both show something of a step back in March. Based on your commentary about what you saw in March and April, it doesn't really sound like you've seen any of this. But I'm just wondering if the feedback from your branch managers has changed at all in the last six weeks or so.

We met with all our key geography and line of business heads last week, and virtually to a person they were more favorable than they were 90 days ago. So as we said in our trends, our growth did decelerate a bit in March, temp and perm, but that has either flattened back out in the case of temp, or reaccelerated in the case of perm the first part of April. Having said that, I think we all understand that perm is more volatile and the early start is less predictive of the quarter.

All right, thank you.

Ato Garrett, Deutsche Bank.

I'm wondering if you could talk a little bit about the growth rates between the US perm and European perm operations. Do you think there are any significant differences there?

That's a nice straight man question, for if you look at this new schedule we posted on our website, we actually show you the difference in those rates. And, for example, for US perm, it grew 28% year-over-year for the quarter, and non-US perm grew 16.5% year-over-year in the quarter. So clearly, US outgrew it. But relative to expectations, the 16.5% growth outside the US was better than we had expected.

Okay, great, thank you very much.

Giri Krishnan, Credit Suisse.

Keith, as you look toward the rest of the year, what are some areas, other than maybe tech, which you've mentioned in the past, and perm, which I think you alluded to earlier, where you plan to concentrate or invest in, given the potential opportunity ahead?

Well, we are still bullish on tech, and tech perm has been particularly solid lately, which we will continue to invest in. But as we've talked about before, to some extent we under-invested in our other lines of business last year, and this year we're certainly going to invest commensurate with their growth rates. So the quarter we are in, we are going to add heads pretty much across all lines of business, particularly in the US, in part because we under invested a bit during 2011 while we over invested in tech. There's a little bit of catching up that's going to happen in 2012 but not disproportionate to the 2012 growth. It's just going to be more broad-based.

Okay, great, thank you.

Tobey Sommer, SunTrust.

I was wondering if you could comment on the rate of change of bill rates and maybe specifically contrast IT with the F&A pieces of your business.

All right, so the bill rates were up 3.4% year-over-year and there isn't that much difference between IT and non-IT. Clearly, there is a candidate supply challenge, more so on the IT side than on the accounting side. But as we said in the prepared remarks, the unemployment rate for IT and accounting professionals is half of the overall unemployment rate. And with that backdrop, we are having to pay more. Clients understand that, and we are able to bill more as a result.

And then in Europe, with the move to separate accounting and auditing, I was wondering if you could describe how you might see that unfolding and how you could take advantage of the opportunity.

Well, to some extent it mirrors what happened here 10 years ago, where you couldn't do external outside auditing and internal auditing. So there's no question that would be a plus. I think there's a lot of question about whether that will actually get enacted as proposed. But clearly, independence between external audit and internal audit has always been a core value proposition that Protiviti sold, its independence, its objectivity. And to the extent that's even more acknowledged outside the US, that's a good thing.

Thank you.

Jim Janesky, Avondale Partners.

First question is we, like you, have heard that small to midsize businesses are starting to rehire again. Do you think that's because small to midsize businesses are probably the most affected by talk of a double-dip recession, and at least in the United States, that has kind of gone away? Is that what you're hearing? Are they more comfortable with the growth rate, or are they just starting to invest again?

I think clearly the numbers show they are starting to invest again. I think if you look at ADP, 89% of the jobs added last month were in the small to middle size category. So the jobs growth engine is disproportionately in our sweet spot. Over the course of the years, they have been more "show me" than other categories, and I think with the recovery as long as it has occurred, notwithstanding the European uncertainties they are beginning to be more believers. And our growth rates show that.

Okay, and then switching to Protiviti, do you have the constant currency same-day rates for both the US and international for that segment, for the quarter?

Jim, the reason we didn't do it is because the number of days is much more an art form for Protiviti because it gets into the holiday and time-off patterns of your internal staff, whereas we have decades of data on the staffing side that says for a given holiday, it's effectively X% of a full day. The data for Protiviti is not as consistent and we don't have decades of data. And given its relative size relative to staffing overall, we didn't go there. It's more volatile, it's more art than science. And again, as I said, given its relative size, we didn't go there.

Okay, fair enough. But with respect to Protiviti, could you just talk a little bit about your longer-term plans there? You did reduce headcount. You said you're going to keep that steady in the ...

Long-term, Protiviti in its own right has a very solid internal audit practice. The US has been quite good. I believe the US alone has been profitable for each of the last seven quarters. Our challenges have been more outside the US, which we have talked about many times on this call. So it's got a very solid internal audit practice. What has come on in a big way are IT consulting and financial services, particularly risk and compliance as it relates to financial services. We are very pleased with how they have progressed.

In addition, there is a very real go-to-market opportunity which we increasingly are more successful with, where staffing and Protiviti go to market together. Typically it's where Protiviti provides supervision, there's consulting, there are deliverables. And many times from our staffing organization, you get the arms and legs of the staff on the engagement.

So we're bullish on Protiviti in its own right, in the consulting space, particularly in IT and FSI. As I said, we are increasingly more successful going to market, Protiviti together with staffing. We had nice wins this quarter. It has definitely gotten traction in the last 12 months, and we are very excited that Protiviti fits very naturally with staffing.

At the end of the day, clients like choices. Clients like choices between do I, client, want to manage a project? Do I, client, want you the consulting firm to manage the project? Or is there some blend of I manage part of it, you manage part of it, you provide the arms and legs in part of it, you provide the consulting part of it? Clients like choices. We see that within staffing. We see that within Protiviti. We see that combined between staffing and Protiviti. Protiviti gives us more choices.

It gives us more choices, Jim, and it also enables us to be very cost competitive.

Okay, well, thanks for that level of detail. Appreciate it.

Gary Bisbee, Barclays Capital.

Congratulations on the quarter and thanks for those disclosures. The first question -- looking at the technology business, it did decelerate a bit more than some of the other segments. And I realize it has been growing incredibly fast, maybe it's just tougher comps, but anything else you would point out there?

That's true. It did decelerate more than the others, and more than half of that deceleration happened outside the US and specifically in the UK, where not only does it have the economic, macroeconomic headwinds, but we also selectively exited some low-margin tech business. As that market has become more competitive, we just weren't willing to stay at the kind of margin structure that some of our competitors were willing to stay at. So disproportionally non-US, and I think if you look at the schedule you will see that the temp and consulting staffing overall decelerated non-US, but in the US, temp and consulting actually accelerated.

Okay, thanks, and then just a follow-up to that -- maybe I'm digging too much into disclosure, but it looks like there has been quite a bit less of the currency impact on the technology business, and I assume that you haven't built it out overseas much. But if that's right, do you see the demand potential over time as broadly similar to what you are seeing for technology in the US? And what are the factors, the negating factors to that growth? Is it really just your investment?

First of all, the currency differences by line of business get more to geographic distribution. So tech is stronger or is more prevalent in some countries than others relative to the rest of our business. So for the currency changes, let's take Germany as an example. To the extent we are stronger in tech in Germany, it's going to be more impacted by euro exchange rates than sterling exchange rates, as an example.

As far as demand drivers, outside the US versus inside the US, the example I chose was Germany because in Germany, we are bullish on tech, where the drivers seem to be very similar to what they are in the US. So we do expect to make outsized tech investments in Germany outside the US, for the same reasons we've made outsized tech investments in the US.

Okay, and then just one last one -- on Protiviti, it certainly sounds like your commentary there has been getting more positive over the last year. What do you think about the long-term profitability of the business? A few years ago you thought there was no reason it shouldn't be able to get to the temp staffing profitability, or I think you even said low teens. Is this still a long time off, or if we see sort of moderate to solid revenue growth, can we start moving there in the next couple years?

We certainly think we can start moving there in the next couple years. The challenge we've had is outside the US. Again, we've talked about that. We've made some progress. Japan has been particularly hard hit in the last 12 months. The earthquake/tsunami anniversary was in the first quarter, so the comparisons will get easier from that standpoint. But Protiviti US has been nicely profitable for seven straight quarters. That has been masked in some of those quarters by losses outside the US. We believe those losses will moderate, hopefully more than even modestly over the course of what's left of 2012, which will drive overall Protiviti profitability.

But the short answer to your question is we still believe we can get consolidated global double-digit operating margins from Protiviti.

Thank you very much.

Jennifer Huang, UBS.

Just a question on your temp to perm conversion. You mentioned that it was up this quarter. Maybe you can just provide a little bit more color on where it is now and whether or not you think that it can continue to increase over the course of the year.

While temp-to-perm conversions were up modestly, which means just a few basis points, they are still at the low end of the traditional range, and we still think they have a lot of upside. The traditional range is 3% to 5%. We are still hovering at the low end of that range. We are just a little better in the first quarter than we were in the prior fourth quarter. And the trend line is good. It's a derivative of perm placement. There's full-time job demand ultimately behind temp-to-hire conversions, just like there is perm. We are bullish on conversions.

And then just to follow up on -- maybe this is a little bit nit-picking. On the CapEx, it was a little bit lower this quarter. And I think you mentioned $60 million to $70 million for the full year. Is that still your expectation? Maybe some reasons why it has been slightly lower?

So our expectation still is in the $60 million-$70 million range. CapEx is a little bit based on the timing of when expenditures get made, purchases get made. So I wouldn't over-read that it seems a little light. My guess is, you will see us catching up in the balance of the year.

Okay, great, thank you very much.

John Healy, Northcoast Research.

I was hoping you could give a little bit of color on the Protiviti business. I appreciate all the disclosure this quarter. But when I think about the business, the audit side of it, the technology side and then the compliance side, could you provide some color on maybe how this business breaks out today in those three buckets, and how that compares to a few years ago?

Well, in a very broad sense, seven or eight years ago, almost 70% of Protiviti's revenues were Sarbanes-Oxley related, and today that's less than 20%. So they have effectively had to replace half of their revenue base in that time period. That gap has principally been filled with consulting services, which are now over half of Protiviti's revenues. And the two hottest areas of those consulting services are IT consulting, be it security, be it IT asset management, and FSI risk and compliance. In the regulatory area, in the model validation area, clearly with financial services firms that otherwise have their issues, there clearly remains a lot of demand. And we think we will continue to have a lot of demand in the compliance area.

Great, thank you.

That's all we have time for today. We appreciate your interest. Thank you.

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