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  • Joshua Carroll - Investor Relations

  • Good morning, and thank you for joining us for RBC Bearings fiscal third-quarter 2026 earnings call. I'm Josh Carroll with the Investor Relations team. With me on today's call are Dr. Hartnett, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer; Daniel Bergeron, Director, Vice President and Chief Operating Officer; and Rob Sullivan, Vice President, and Chief Financial Officer.

  • As a reminder, some of the statements made today may be forward-looking and are under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those projected or implied due to a variety of factors. We refer you to RBC Bearings recent filings with the SEC for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact the company's future operating results and financial condition. These factors are also listed in the press release, along with the reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP financial information.

  • With that, I'll now turn the call over to Dr. Hartnett.

  • Michael Hartnett - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Okay. Thank you, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. As usual, I'm going to start today's call with a short review of our financial results and the outlook for the industry with our sectors. Rob Sullivan will follow me with some details on the results.

  • Third-quarter net sales were $461 million or a 17% increase over last year. We experienced continued strong performance in our A&D segment and growth from our industrial businesses. Consolidated gross margin for the quarter was 44.3% and 45.1% on an adjusted basis.

  • Adjusted diluted EPS was $3.04 versus $2.34 a year ago, a 30% improvement. EBITDA came in at $149.6 million versus last year $122.6 million, up 22%. Free cash flow for the period is a strong $99.1 million and we paid down an additional $81 million of debt in the third-quarter. 56% of our revenues were industrial, 44% from the A&D sector. Total A&D sales were up 41.5% year-on-year. Commercial aerospace expanded 21.5%, defense expansion was 86.2%. Rob Sullivan will talk more about these details later in the call.

  • Demand across the A&D sectors continues to be robust. As evidence, we have modestly exceeded our $2 billion backlog mark that we spoke about last call. Remember, most of our R&D business is contracted and managed through daily or weekly orders or poles, communicated to us electronically and as a result, represent only a modest footprint in today's backlog statement.

  • If these joint contract obligations were extended based upon the statement of work content awarded and projected build rates, they would likely exceed another $0.5 billion to $1 billion in backlog. Today, the strength and outlook on the A&D sector can only be described as extremely robust. Clearly, we are a national inflection point in the commercial Aircraft and Defense industries.

  • Let me explain with an overview of some of our key markets. So we'll start with submarines. Submarines are facing an accelerated fleet build-out. The number one defense priority today is submarines. This drives an unprecedented demand for our proprietary quiet-running valves both for new construction and replacement to support the current fleet. 66 Virginia ships are planned, 25 have been commissioned to date and 12 Columbia class ships are planned.

  • Number two, missiles and guided arms support for broad multiyear refurbishment initiatives for offensive and defensive missiles and vision targeting systems, both here and overseas create a strong environment for our precision assemblies and fuel management products.

  • In Europe, NATO's 5% GDP initiative is growing demand for our products from the ground warfare system builders in Europe. This creates a strong new requirements for RBC products developed -- that would have been developed over the past decade.

  • In the USA, the refurbishment of new and -- refurbishment and new construction of aircraft systems as well as the maintenance of untold number of helicopters and airframe platforms, including engines, creates strong and continuous needs for our proprietary components. We expect an expanded defense spending bill will likely accelerate the repair activities further.

  • We also support the expandinge need for both engineering support and staple components for the systems that the big three space explorers are building as well as others. The racing to the moon and/or creating low earth satellite systems requiring sophisticated precision assemblies for targeting, thrust vectoring, fuel management, structural members, et cetera. I think you can see the picture that we're faced with right now in the A&D sector.

  • Of course, all of these macro extremes in space and defense are simultaneous with the unprecedented build rates for commercial aircraft, including engines. RBC is deeply embedded in all of these areas, which create a tremendous and continuous market for our products, both at the OEM and the pre-replacement levels. We are working diligently to add machinery and staff to several of our existing sites, guided by our five-year per site plan to support these growing A&D revenues.

  • Well, I hope this brief abstract gives you a 40,000-foot view of what our world is today in the R&D sector -- A&D sector. We can certainly go into specific programs, outlook, products, and proprietary positioning as well as the moats to any depth needed at another time. We've been working well over a generation to achieve industrialized catalog and fortify the portfolio that you see today. So let's turn to the industrial businesses now.

  • Overall, our industrial business was up 3.1%. Industrial distribution was up 1.5%, while OEM sector was up 7%. We saw strength in aggregate and cement, food and beverage and the warehousing markets during the period. Recently, we've been seeing positive trends in some of these markets in terms of order demand, which will show as revenue if they work their way through lead time. The semiconductor industry is the biggest standout in this regard. Broad industrial demand strengthened measurably in late December and continued throughout January.

  • In addition, we are introducing several new products to the industrial lineup for FY27, many of which have been in testing and developments since the Dodge acquisition. Combined, a promise to bend our curve on industrial growth. Also, we are opening a service center in the Midwest to better attend the needs of our -- and tailor our product response to more customers in that region.

  • So I hope I gave you a feel for our environment and the momentum that exists at RBC today. And I'll turn the call over to Rob Sullivan for more discussion on the third-quarter and the fourth-quarter outlook.

  • Robert Sullivan - Chief Financial Officer, Vice President

  • Thank you, Mike. As Dr. Hartnett mentioned, we had another strong quarter. Net sales grew 17%, which led to a 16.9% increase in our reported gross margin. Gross margins were 44.3% for the quarter or 45.1% on an adjusted basis compared to 44.3% in the same period last year.

  • During the quarter, we delivered strong performance across our business segments, specifically within Aerospace and Defense, which has demonstrated strong growth, as Dr. Hartnett stated. Third-quarter A&D sales increased 41.5% year-over-year. And importantly, the increase was 21.7%, excluding sales from VACCO, demonstrating significant expansion from both our legacy commercial and defense markets.

  • A&D gross margins during the quarter were 40.1% or 42% -- 42.2% on an adjusted basis and industrial margins were 47.5% or 47.4% on an adjusted basis. Excluding VACCO, our Aerospace and Defense gross margins were 43.4% during the period. We are encouraged by the margin progress we've achieved within A&D driven by increased efficiencies achieved in our plants, coupled with improving pricing on customer contracts.

  • Looking ahead, we expect these benefits to continue to further support margin improvement while recognizing the impact will be gradual as these benefits flow through. On the SG&A line, we had total cost of $77.9 million or 16.9% of net sales for the quarter. This ultimately resulted in an adjusted EBITDA of $149.6 million or 32.4% of sales for the quarter. That represents an approximate 22% increase in adjusted EBITDA dollars during the quarter compared to the same period last year. Interest expense for the quarter was $13 million.

  • This was down 8.5% year-over-year, reflecting the improved leverage position achieved over the last 12 months, coupled with lower interest rates compared to this time last year. We paid off $81 million of debt during the quarter and another $67 million since the end of the third-quarter. The tax rate in our adjusted EPS calculation was 22.1% compared to last year's 22.2%. This led to adjusted diluted earnings per share of $3.04, representing growth of 29.9% year-over-year.

  • Free cash flow in the quarter came in at $99.1 million, with conversion of 147% compared to $73.6 million and 127% last year. The higher conversion rate was due to the increased earnings and working capital management during the quarter.

  • As we've noted previously, our capital allocation strategy going forward will remain focused on deleveraging by using the cash that we generate to pay off outstanding debt. Our expectation is to pay off the remainder of the term loan by November of 2026.

  • Looking into the fourth-quarter, we are guiding revenues of $495 million to $505 million, representing year-over-year growth of 13.1% to 15.4%. On the gross margin side, we are projecting adjusted gross margins of 45% to 45.25% for the quarter and SG&A as a percentage of sales to be between 16% and 16.25% for the period. With that, operator, please open the call for Q&A.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Kristine Liwag, Morgan Stanley.

  • Kristine Liwag - Analyst

  • I just wanted to follow up regarding your commentary on the industrial business. So you mentioned that you're seeing strength in aggregate and cement, food and beverage and warehousing. You've got the new products that you're introducing for fiscal year '27 and it sounds like semiconductor has been doing really well. I was wondering for these verticals, can you provide what is embedded in your 4Q revenue outlook? And also when we go into 2027, how do you think about growth for these end markets.

  • Robert Sullivan - Chief Financial Officer, Vice President

  • Yes, Kristine, the way we have our fourth-quarter built out right now, it looks a lot like the third-quarter in terms of what we're forecasting for year-over-year growth, maybe slightly conservative on the industrial side. So we're just expecting more of the same. Obviously, we saw the PMI this week was positive. So if that trend were to continue, that would be certainly a bullish sign for our business.

  • Kristine Liwag - Analyst

  • Okay. Great. And then if I could follow up with VACCO, the quiet running valve is a really differentiated technology. I was wondering outside submarines, are there other use cases for this product.

  • Daniel Bergeron - Chief Operating Officer, Vice President, Director

  • Mike, you on? So Kristine, it's Dan Bergeron. Yes. For Sargent Aerospace, their products are specifically for submarine. And on the VACCO side, there are some applications for them in space on satellites.

  • Kristine Liwag - Analyst

  • Got you. Super helpful. And then does it -- I mean, just following up on the industrial question, with the improving outlook and also when we think about the order activity that you faced, is it fair to say that fiscal year '27 would be a higher growth year for industrial than fiscal year '26?

  • Michael Hartnett - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • We're expecting that, Kristine. Yes.

  • Operator

  • Michael Ciarmoli, Truist Securities.

  • Alexandra Eleni Mandery - Analyst

  • This is Alexandra Mandery on for Michael Ciarmoli with Truist Securities. We've seen that backlog growth has been strong and at all-time highs, about 230% year-over-year growth. So could you add some more color in terms of order composition and submarket breakdown? And also, what is the relationship with backlog and revenue going forward?

  • Michael Hartnett - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Okay. There was a number of questions there. The first question was the composition of the backlog. And I think I think Rob has that.

  • Robert Sullivan - Chief Financial Officer, Vice President

  • Yes. What I can tell you is that over 90% of our backlog is really our A&D market. Most of our industrial business tends to move in and out and doesn't really get stuck in the backlog. And in terms of the duration, which I think was another part of your question, some of these contracts, specifically with Sargent or VACCO can be multiyear going well beyond the next 12 to 24 months?

  • Alexandra Eleni Mandery - Analyst

  • Great. And then I guess, like can you break down the backlog further between submarkets within A&D?

  • Robert Sullivan - Chief Financial Officer, Vice President

  • I don't have all that detail right in front of me to share with you at this time. We just kind of look at it at the segment level. But obviously, with Sargent and VACCO, there is a significant portion of our backlog with the marine products.

  • Alexandra Eleni Mandery - Analyst

  • That makes sense. And then I guess just one other one. On the fiscal 1Q '26 call, you mentioned using roughly a $30 million run rate for VACCO quarterly revenue. So given that, did you divest maybe from any contracts or make any other changes that would reflect that slight performance discrepancy?

  • Robert Sullivan - Chief Financial Officer, Vice President

  • I mean they were at $29 million this quarter. They're pretty close to that $30 million run rate. There's just timing. We're in the middle of integration and these contracts can be a little bit lumpy quarter-to-quarter. But I would say we feel pretty good with where that business is operating and are optimistic for the next year.

  • Operator

  • Steve Barger, KeyBanc Capital Markets.

  • Christian Zyla - Analyst

  • This is Christian Zyla on for Steve Barger. Just following up on your industrial comments. It does seem like you guys started growing before we actually saw an industrial inflection or at least have been less impacted by recent weakness. But January PMI was strong a few days ago.

  • US industrial production is inflected positively. Sentiment in short-cycle manufacturing seems to be improving. So looking back, what do you think drove your outperformance? And then based on your business and your mix, do you think you can outgrow peers or continue your string of growth?

  • Michael Hartnett - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Well, I think one of -- the outperformance -- number one, the Dodge brand is a very strong brand in the industrial marketplace, particularly the industrial MRO marketplace. And that marketplace is pretty short cycle. And as a result of having -- being such short cycle, your product availability needs to be high in order to capture the sale. And so Dodge does an outstanding job at managing their product availability and their hit rates and stocking of their core products. So I think we're probably industry best in that regard.

  • And so that helps performance when times are tough. There was a second part of your question, Steve, I forget what it was.

  • Christian Zyla - Analyst

  • Yes, it was just based on like your current business mix, do you think that can continue into calendar 2026?

  • Michael Hartnett - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Yes, it should. I absolutely think it should. We're expecting a stronger industrial economy in '26. Certainly, it started -- in January, it started off well. Semicon has come back in a significant way, which was dormant for a long period of time, and it's an important sector for us. So yes, I think we're going to do better on the industrial side in calendar '26.

  • Christian Zyla - Analyst

  • That's great. And then just switching gears to Aero and Defense. A couple of quarters ago, you mentioned some synergies on the space side with VACCO and legacy RBC. Just any quick update there. And maybe more broadly, any updates on how you're thinking about the broader space industry and what specific markets or applications that you currently are not exposed to or not involved in that could be interesting. Does that require more engineering expertise or capacity? Just any kind of thoughts there.

  • Michael Hartnett - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Yes. Well, VACCO is -- you know, it's a company we learn more about every month. And one of the things that we're learning about VACCO is they have a very good product program that services the space market with staples that the space market requires in order to build out satellites. And they have a tremendous brand and following in these staples. And so -- it's a little bit like the bearing business.

  • If you have a stocking position on these staples, you're liable to get the order and you're liable to significantly improve your sales. And so we're looking at their product offering and deciding exactly which products we should be stocking.

  • And to some extent, we think if we had those products in stock, people would actually develop or design satellite systems around those products because when it's undefined, it's undefined. And people kind of grow their own spoke. So we could help guide the industry by making these products more available and at the same time, improve our sales to the satellite OEMs, and there's -- there's quite a few of these people.

  • Operator

  • Scott Deuschle, Deutsche Bank.

  • Scott Deuschle - Research Analyst

  • Dr. Hartnett, can you clarify whether the new Airbus contract included a meaningful ship-set content increase on any of your programs?

  • Michael Hartnett - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Yes, it did. I guess this is what do you define as meaningful? I mean, we -- and just running through some of the programs, the new programs that we captured in my own mind here on the Airbus contract. So yes, I would say it's probably increased Airbus content, 20%, that sort of thing.

  • Scott Deuschle - Research Analyst

  • Okay. Can you say when that might layer into your revenue? Is there may be a one to two year lag as you tool up for that higher content? Or can you see it sooner?

  • Michael Hartnett - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • We expect to see it in this particular quarter.

  • Scott Deuschle - Research Analyst

  • Okay. That's great. And then can you also give us a sense for how large the missile business is today relative to defense overall and would you expect missile revenue growth to outpace commercial aerospace, given some of these big contracts, Lockheed and Raytheon have gotten?

  • Michael Hartnett - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Yes. I mean, missiles are -- they're a funny greed. I mean there's -- they're used for all sorts of things. There's the HIMARS and there's the JDAMs and those are bombs and there's the hypersonics and then there's the standard missiles that go into -- just are part of the F-16 package. And so we're pretty much across the board on all of these programs.

  • I can't -- it's hard to see exactly how big this missile business can be, particularly when they start building out hypersonics. But all those -- a lot of those hypersonics are going to go on the Columbias and the Virginias. So we're definitely going to be part of that program in a meaningful way. But I don't have an answer for you with regard to how big the overall missile business can be at RBC versus commercial aircraft. I don't think it's going to be as large -- anywhere near as large as our commercial aircraft business.

  • Scott Deuschle - Research Analyst

  • Okay. And then, Rob, I was wondering if you could pull apart the gross margin guidance by segment for the fourth-quarter, and in particular, help us understand the rate of sequential gross margin improvement in A&D, given that pricing step-up you have coming through?

  • Robert Sullivan - Chief Financial Officer, Vice President

  • Yes. I mean I think one of the best ways to look at it is we're guiding you to a gross margin that's at the high-end incremental s where we were in Q3 and we would expect Aerospace and Defense to be growing at a rate faster than industrial, that should imply that there should be some increment to what we've seen in Aerospace and Defense. So as I said, it was about 42.2% this quarter. We should see some gradual improvement in this quarter that's getting us to that guidance. So that's how it breaks down.

  • I think industrials should more or less look where they have been. I think we have some opportunities, but we have a little bit of headwind just from some absorption challenges that we always have in the third fiscal quarter with the holidays and just fewer earned hours. But generally speaking, industrial should look like what it did in the third-quarter, I would expect.

  • Operator

  • Pete Skibitski, Alembic Global.

  • Peter Skibitski - Analyst

  • Just a couple for me. Mike, can you update us or remind us kind of where you guys are at on the production rates right now for the core Boeing and Airbus programs?

  • Michael Hartnett - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Yes. Well, I think Boeing is -- I think they're pushing towards -- they're at 38 737s a month looking to go to 42, looking to go to 50 with an overall objective of getting to 60. The exact dates that those -- that occurs, I don't have them in front of me, but I do have in one of my files. But the 60 is not that far off.

  • And then the 787 is 6 -- as I remember, 6 going to 8 per month, and that's a significant step up for us. We have one plant that's very dependent upon the 787 shift. And so that's very helpful. And then the 777, 777X seems to be coming into its own, but I think that's only a few ships a month in the distant future. I don't have that number in front of me.

  • Peter Skibitski - Analyst

  • Okay. And just are you guys producing kind of in line with where Boeing is? Or are you -- I think typically, you're, I don't know, six to nine months ahead of their production rates. Is that where you're at right now? Or do you feel like you're -- they're maybe working off some inventory?

  • Michael Hartnett - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • I think in one of our smaller plants, Boeing is working off some inventory and that sort of turns around in July. And all of the other plants, we're pretty much lockstep with their production rates.

  • Peter Skibitski - Analyst

  • Okay. Okay. Got it. One last one for me, maybe for Rob. Rob, you guys were kind of hot this quarter on the CapEx spend. It inflected up a bit. Are you still on -- is that just timing or you saw on tapped to be about 3.5% spend for the full year and maybe continuing that level into fiscal '27?

  • Robert Sullivan - Chief Financial Officer, Vice President

  • Yes. We made some strategic investments and some capacity build-outs, but I think we'll still end up 3.5%, less than 4% for the full year.

  • Operator

  • Tim Thein, Raymond James.

  • Tim Thein - Analyst

  • I just had two on the industrial business. On the -- I think, Rob, you said earlier that the -- what's embedded in the fourth-quarter guide is a growth rate for that business comparable to what you did of, call it, 3% in the third, if I heard that correct. I'm just curious, is that -- in terms of your -- Obviously, this is a business that's a lot harder to predict than A&D in the short term. But I'm curious what you've seen kind of in recent month trends and just in terms of order activity.

  • Does that get you to a similar kind of outcome? Or is that -- I don't know if you just maybe just help us in terms of what you've actually seen in terms of incoming order trends relative to that number?

  • Robert Sullivan - Chief Financial Officer, Vice President

  • Yes. What's built in for the fourth-quarter is probably even a little bit below that 3%. But to be honest, the orders have been pretty good in the recent months. So we feel really comfortable with what we're forecasting.

  • Tim Thein - Analyst

  • Okay. And then just as part of -- as you integrate Dodge, there is a lot of investment that the company has made over the years in terms of making that more of a global business. Where are you in terms of realizing some of those growth initiatives. You highlighted the service center piece earlier. I don't know if that's -- it's obviously not international, but maybe just if there's a way to kind of help us in terms of the underlying growth prospects of Dodge. Yes, that's all.

  • Robert Sullivan - Chief Financial Officer, Vice President

  • Yes, I think -- sorry, I think we're still in the middle innings on that process, and we realized a tremendous amount of synergy on the cost side with Dodge, as we've all talked about in the past. I think we're in the middle innings. And then some of those new initiatives are being put in place. We've got a lot of great meetings and discussions around that new service center, some new product initiatives that we're in the process of deploying. So I think there's some bright things ahead on that business.

  • Operator

  • Jordan Lyonnais, Bank of America.

  • Jordan Lyonnais - Analyst

  • I wanted to touch on missiles again. If we -- the frameworks that Lockheed and Raytheon now have, when we start to see those turn into real contracts in production, how are you guys thinking about CapEx? Or do you need additional investments to hit these quadruple production rates.

  • Michael Hartnett - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Well, it's -- the question you asked is the same question the missile builders ask us is do you guys have the capacity to take on this much demand. And we do. And so we do have to add some equipment. The equipment that we add is certainly within that 3.5% that Rob has been talking about. So it's modest.

  • And it's usually -- it's just going to use our capital base that we have in place today for the most part to a more effective level. So yes, you shouldn't see any surprises on the capital side in order to tool up this business.

  • Operator

  • Ross Sparenblek, William Blair.

  • Ross Sparenblek - Analyst

  • Just starting with VACCO, I mean it looks like some really strong performance on the margin side in the quarter. Can you maybe just help us parse out the success there. This is onetime and if we should expect that to be the largest kind of margin contributor to Aerospace and Defense gross margins in the fourth-quarter.

  • Michael Hartnett - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Well, Aerospace gross margins in the fourth-quarter ought to be pretty good. And it's a little bit difficult for us to predict how good, but I suspect they're going to be better than they were in the third-quarter given volumes and pricing and sort of the other factors that go into the calculus to make it all work well. So yes, those margins will definitely expand.

  • When we put together the outlook for the fourth-quarter, it implies a 7.5% organic growth rate and a 14% total growth rate versus last year's fourth-quarter. The 7.5% sort of balances Aircraft and Defense out at 10%, whereas industrial is somewhere less than 5% in order to get to the 7.5%. So we're looking at an aircraft -- we use an aircraft a little bit north of 10% against the third-quarter, which was 21.3%.

  • So I think the fourth-quarter outlook is very conservative, but we elected to make it conservative because really for no other reason to be conservative. So notwithstanding that, I think we expect to have a very strong fourth-quarter. We have great market positioning, strong teams, good order book, it's only a matter of execution. And just one thing about RBC, we always execute. So I think in the fourth-quarter, I think our investors are going to be very pleased with the results.

  • Ross Sparenblek - Analyst

  • Yes, that's pretty clear with the gross margins for VACCO in the quarter. I just -- I don't get the impression that it's a lot of operating leverage there. I mean, was it more cost-out? And what is kind of maybe the revised outlook on where those margins can go? It feels like we should be converging with consolidated Aerospace and Defense gross margins sooner rather than later?

  • Michael Hartnett - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Yes. I would -- yes, I would think those margins are going to -- the A&D margins are going to chase up towards the industrial margins. I don't know if they'll reach them, but they're going to close the gap.

  • Ross Sparenblek - Analyst

  • Okay. That's helpful. And then maybe just another one on the industrial business. It looks like your peers are kind of guiding for low single digits for 2026. Can you maybe just help us think through kind of the more cyclical, sorry?

  • Michael Hartnett - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • The peers are guiding to what for '26?

  • Ross Sparenblek - Analyst

  • Looking like low single digits kind of consolidated. And I think a lot of that's kind of cyclicality and maybe the heavy machinery capital goods, and that is the more cyclical piece of your industrial business. Anything to call out in the channel there? I mean do you think inventory is balanced. And if we do start to see elevated build rates like the OEMs are expecting, how soon should we expect a catch-up there?

  • Michael Hartnett - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • I think our Industrial business will be sort of better than the single digits. It will be -- we're expecting sort of the high single digits is worst case. So -- but we're not coming out with full year guidance. We never do and -- but we're looking at it. We're pretty optimistic about what's involved in the year ahead.

  • Ross Sparenblek - Analyst

  • Congrats on the quarter.

  • Operator

  • With no further questions, I would like to turn the conference back over to Dr. Hartnett for closing remarks.

  • Michael Hartnett - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Okay. Well, this concludes our third-quarter conference call, and we thank you all for taking the time today to participate and look forward to talking again probably late May. Good day.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect at this time.