RBB Bancorp (RBB) 2021 Q1 法說會逐字稿

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the RBB Bancorp Earnings Conference Call for the First Quarter 2021. (Operator Instructions) Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. (Operator Instructions)

I would now like to hand the conference over to Catherine Wei. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Good day, everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss RBB Bancorp's financial results for the first quarter of 2021.

With me today from management are Chairman, President and CEO, Alan Thian; EVP and Chief Financial Officer, David Morris. Management will provide a brief summary of the results, which can be found in the earnings press release that is available on our investor Relations website, and then we'll open up the call to your questions.

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Now I'd like to turn the call over to Alan Thian. Alan?

Thank you, Catherine. Good day, everyone, and thank you for joining us today.

We started 2021 with excellent first quarter results as our differentiated business model benefited from the rapidly improving economy. We reported record net income, improving margins, stable credit qualities and strong growth in noninterest-bearing deposits.

First quarter earnings benefited from further improvement in our net interest margin and an increase in revenue related to loan sales. First quarter net interest expenses were moderately higher than fourth quarter expenses due to mortgage commissions and tax paid on compensation.

As expected, we had limited loan growth in the first quarter but still expect to have healthy growth for the remainder of the year. We raised $120 million of subordinated debt, which increases our ability to pursue profitable organic and strategic growth opportunities. We believe we are well positioned to accelerate our profitable growth in 2021 by providing exceptional customer service to the individuals, businesses and communities that we serve.

Given the bank's record net income and our outlook on the future, our Board of Directors increased the dividend by 8% to $0.13 per share and renewed the share repurchase program.

With that, I'll turn the call over to David to discuss some of the quarter's financial highlights before opening up the call for questions. David?

Thank you, Alan. I'll start by reviewing some of the highlights of our income statement before moving on to our balance sheet.

Net income grew 12% from last quarter and 85% from a year earlier to a record $12.5 million or $0.63 per diluted share in the first quarter. We reported record pretax preprovision income of $19.6 million, which was up slightly from last quarter's, $18.9 million.

Our net income benefited from several factors. First, net interest income increased $2.1 million due to stable interest income, improvements in our cost of deposits and a decrease in provision for loan losses. Second, noninterest income increased by about $1.4 million as loan sales continued to increase, mainly in the Fannie Mae qualified market. We continue to be cautiously optimistic that loan sales will continue at a similar pace in the second quarter.

Net interest margin was 3.73% for the first quarter, an increase from 3.67% in the fourth quarter of 2020 and up from 3.37% a year prior as we continue to increase our noninterest-bearing deposits and drive down the cost of our interest bearing deposits while holding the yield of our loans portfolio stable.

Loans held for investment totaled $2.7 billion as of March 31, increasing $8.4 million from December 31, 2020. We had good growth in commercial real estate, which grew at a 24% annual rate, and construction, which grew at a 49% annual rate. Our non-QM mortgage originations continued to lag due to the low interest rate environment, which, when combined with payoffs and the sale of mortgages, resulted in a meaningful $83 million decrease in our mortgage loan portfolio. We continue to take action to revitalize the non-QM origination channels but could face continued headwinds if the rate environment does not improve.

Our average yield on earning assets for the quarter was 4.49%, down 6 basis points from the prior quarter of 37 basis points from the prior year.

Deposits grew $186 million from the fourth quarter with a $170 million increase in noninterest-bearing deposits as our efforts to attract these deposits from our banking clients gain traction. Our average cost of interest-bearing deposits for the quarter was 0.73%, which was down 20 basis points from the prior quarter and 99 basis points from the prior year. We expect the cost of our deposits to continue to decline in the second quarter as higher-cost CDs mature and are replaced by lower-cost deposits.

Near the end of the quarter, we completed $120 million sub debt offering at a 4% rate, which was used in part to redeem $15 million, 6.5% sub debt issuance that we had outstanding. We believe the additional low-cost capital increases our ability to pursue attractive organic and strategic growth opportunities.

Nonperforming assets increased by $400,000 to $20.2 million in the first quarter, decreasing 4 basis points to 0.55% of total assets. As of April 15, we had 21 loans in deferment, totaling about $18 million. We took a provision for credit losses of $1.5 million in the first quarter, primarily attributable to remaining COVID-19-related economic risk and loan growth. Our capital levels remain strong with all of our capital ratios well above regulatory minimums.

With that, we are happy to take your questions. Operator, please open up the call.

(Operator Instructions) Your first question is from Nick Cucharale of Piper Sandler.

So it looks like you had a similar level of 1 of 4 production as of fourth quarter, but sales were certainly a lot higher in the first quarter. Can you give us some color on that decision? And strategically, how you're thinking about the trade-off been keeping those loans on balance sheet compared to sales?

Okay. Right now, $83 million for those sales was Fannie Mae. And the rest of those were holdover from the fourth quarter that we already had commitments to sell, okay? So we honor those commitments on the (inaudible).

In the future, we expect that Fannie Mae selling will be a little bit less than the $83 million, but similar. And we see the non-QM dropping off significantly, especially coming to the third quarter.

That's very helpful. And then given the sub-debt issuance in the quarter, your capital levels are quite strong, as you mentioned. Can you update us on your appetite for M&A in specific geographies that are top of mind?

We're very interested in mergers and acquisitions basically in the San Francisco Bay Area, Texas, Seattle. And we would even expand to do merger here in Southern California, if the analytics look good.

And then on the NIM, do you feel as though you have some room for further improvement, given the liability repricing dynamic you discussed?

We will have about $345 million -- sorry, $286 million repriced in the second quarter, going from our CD rates right now was about 0.99% and going down to 0.4%. The issue is that we have so much cash that is in -- that it's very hard to invest into anything that makes any money right at the moment.

So I believe you'll see continued cost to fund improvement, but you will see the yield on non-loan investments be coming down because of the amount of cash. So basically, I am saying, I see it be about flat without or increasing slightly.

The next question is from Kelly Motta of KBW.

Maybe turning to expenses. They were a little bit higher during the quarter with, I think, mortgage commissions were probably a part of that. Looking ahead, is this kind of a good run rate to go through? Or are there any moving pieces that we should keep in mind when looking forward towards the rest of the year?

I think our level was a little high for this quarter. It typically is. It's typically about $400,000 to $500,000 higher than the rest of the year. So I expect the cost to go down.

Okay. Got it. And then looking at the loan portfolio, you had really good CRE growth. It's continued to be really strong. Can you -- as well as construction, can you give us -- maybe provide what categories you're seeing the most demand in and kind of the outlook there?

Well, this is Alan. On the construction loan side, I would say that pretty much, we see construction -- our construction growth actually is in Los Angeles as well as in New York. Most of the construction actually are multifamily units with mixed use, where you may have the commercial on the ground floors, and then you could have condominium or apartments in the upper floors. And then the ratio of the mixed use normally would be about 10% as a commercial and 90% are mixed use of either condo or apartments. And most of the size of the construction project, probably, we are looking at about maybe 10,000 -- about 8,000 of residential store fronts, and then maybe between 30 to 50 units on the mixed use of either condos or apartments where as we are financing on about 65% loan-to-cost or 60 -- 55% to 60% on loan-to-value.

(Operator Instructions) Your next question is from Brett Rabatin of Hovde Group.

Wanted to make sure I understood the dynamic around the fee income going forward well. So you mentioned that the Fannie Mae loans, you saw a little bit less of that going forward. And I know you originated, I think, it was $37 million or $38 million of SBA loans in 1Q. Is the way to think about the dynamic around those 2 pieces going forward is SBA probably continues to increase while the sales on the Fannie Mae loans declines? Or can you give us any additional color on how you see those 2 components interacting going forward?

Okay. Right now, the big gain in our SBA portfolio was we did round 2 of PPP. So although our SBA program is going strong right now because of the 90% guarantee, the big growth in the first quarter was mostly PPP loans.

Having said that, I think over time, you're going to see residential sales go down and SBA sales go up as SBA department gets more traction in originating regular old 7(a) loans, okay? That's what I see, and I see Fannie -- for the foreseeable future, I see the non-QM market being really all about treading water and just replacing what is rolling off. Although we did have -- we do have some commitments out there to sell this quarter, but not very much. And I see Fannie Mae coming down slightly because of -- we cleared out our backlog due to the COVID provisions we had last year, and we'll just be selling new originations.

Okay. That's helpful color. And then just around provisioning and reserves, it would seem like -- I recognize that non-CECL filers are still going to need to maybe keep bolstering reserves a little bit, but it doesn't seem like you're going to have any asset quality issues to speak of. As we think about forward provisioning, I mean it would seem like it could be even less than it was in 1Q, depending on growth, I suppose. But any color around how you think about provisioning going forward?

I think you just need to take 1.25x our growth, and that would -- I don't see any additional large losses plus any lost losses, and that's my provisioning, okay?

I do think there will be a time when we will recapture the $2.9 million that's out there in the COVID -- special COVID reserve. But we decided not to do that in the first quarter and see how everything shakes out in the second quarter.

But at some point in time, you'll see that coming back to the bank if we don't have losses to go against that. And we don't see any by this moment.

Your final question is from Andrew Terrell of Stephens.

I just wanted to circle back to the expense base really quickly. David, I appreciate the comments about 1Q typically running about $400,000, $500,000 higher than kind of the rest of the year. I guess, shouldn't we also see a step down kind of in this next quarter from the -- I think, it was $428,000 data processing expense that you called out in the release. Just trying to put a higher brush on the go-forward expense run rate.

Yes. Some of that was -- some of that is we are converting also once system onto another and we had to pay some duplicate amounts. So that will be going away, okay, over the over the next couple of months.

Okay. Perfect. I appreciate it. And then just thinking about loan yields, they fell around this low kind of 5% level over the past couple of quarters or few quarters. I guess just thinking about loan yields moving forward, what kind of yield are you getting on new originations currently? And has the competitive dynamic changed more recently that might put some pressure on kind of new origination yields and portfolio yields going forward?

Yes. Okay. On the CRE side and so forth, we are seeing -- our rates are prime plus 2.5%, 2.75%, depending on what type of loan it is and so forth. So you add that up, that's above 5%.

When we're looking at our multifamily loans, you're talking about a 4.5% start rate to 5% rate and so forth, unless they are very good customers. They have a lot of deposits with us. We will make exceptions.

So where we're seeing really the pressure, I think, is going to be on the mortgage side. The non-QM mortgages were replacing the runoff, that's a 5% coupon, let's say, or a 5.25% coupon with a 4% coupon or 4.25% coupons. So that's what's creating the pressure in our book right at the moment.

Yes. Right. So on the -- I would say that on the commercial side, our commercial real estate, we are looking at about 5% to 5.25%. Multifamily, we are looking at 4.75% to 5%. And mortgage, we are looking at about 4.25%. We will not do any loans less than 4%.

Okay. That's excellent color. And then just last question for me. I saw the dividend and the renewed buyback yesterday morning. Just -- is it fair to assume you guys are still planning to be active on the buyback going forward given that announcement?

Yes, that's -- yes.

There are no further questions in queue. Do you all have any closing remarks?

No more questions?

None.

Okay. Once again, thank you, all, for joining us today. We look forward to speaking to many of you in the coming days and weeks. Have a nice day.

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.