RBB Bancorp (RBB) 2024 Q1 法說會逐字稿

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the RBB Bancorp first quarter 2024 earnings conference call. (Operator Instructions) It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Catherine whey, Investor Relations Officer. Ma'am, you may begin.

Thank you. Good day, everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss RBB Bancorp's results for the first quarter of 2024. With me today are Chief Executive Officer, David Morris, President, Johnny Lee, Chief Financial Officer, Lynn Hopkins, Chief Credit Officer, Jeffrey A. Chief Administrative Officer, Gary van, and Chief Risk Officer, Vincent Liu.

David and Lynn will briefly summarize the results, which can be found in the earnings press release and investor presentation that are available on our Investor Relations website, and then we'll open up the call to your questions.

I would ask that everyone, please refer to the disclaimer regarding forward-looking statements in the investor presentation and the company's SEC filings. Now I'd like to turn the call over to our VP and Chief Executive Officer, David Morris. David?

Thank you, Catherine, and good day, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. First, I'm happy to share that Lynn Hopkins has been formally appointed as our Chief Financial Officer. We appreciated her expertise since joining RBB in late 2023 as Interim CFO and look forward to her ongoing contributions as an official member of our leadership team.

Turning to our first quarter performance, earnings and margins showed signs of stabilizing and loan balances remaining flat, net interest margin declining four basis points and earnings declining $0.02 per share from last quarter's results when we exclude the income from the CDFI award, while change in expectations about the timing and size of our of rate cuts makes forecasting challenging. We are cautiously optimistic that margins should start to creep back up as deposit costs stabilize and loan yields continue to increase.

Loans held for investment remained stable this quarter at $3 billion after a few quarters of intentional declines. We had expected some loan growth in the first quarter, but were surprised by the pricing in the market and held back originations rather than adding loans at levels that would put further pressure on our profitability.

That said, we did originate approximately $69 million of commercial loans in the first quarter at a yield of 8.3%, which coupled with renewal and other repricing activities, contributed to an 11 basis point increase in our overall loan portfolio yield of 6.07%.

With that, I hand it over to Lynn, who can go into some more detail about the quarter then.

Thank you, Dave. And please feel free to refer to the investor presentation we have provided as I share my comments on the company's first quarter of 2024 financial performance.

Slide 3 of our investor presentation has a summary of first quarter results. Net income was $8 million or $0.43 per diluted share, so relatively stable compared to last quarter's $0.45 per share. After adjusting for last quarter's $5 million CDFI. income, there was no similar income in the first quarter of 2024.

As David mentioned, our net interest margin decreased four basis points as our cost of funds increased 16 basis points, while our yield on interest-earning assets increased by 10 basis points from last quarter. The earning asset yield expansion is mostly due to our total loan yield increasing 11 basis points. Interest income remained stable at $54.8 million.

The increase in total cost of funds to 3.54% was due to the continued pressure on the cost of interest-bearing deposits, which increased by 24 basis points, but was offset by the benefit of our $55 million redemption of subordinated notes during the fourth quarter and a small decline in average non-interest bearing liabilities.

As a result, net interest income decreased $792,000. Noninterest income of $3.4 million decreased primarily due to the positive impact of last quarter's $5 million CDFI ERP. award the first quarter also benefited from the $724,000 in gains on REO due to current appraisals on two properties from the sale of one property in the quarter.

As expected, noninterest expenses increased by $576,000 to $17 million due to seasonally high salaries and benefits offset by lower legal fees, which included a legal expense recovery of $165,000 and lower regulatory assessment fees. Noninterest expenses in the second quarter are expected to remain around $17 million level.

Nonperforming loans increased to $36 million due to $7.7 million being placed on non-accrual, consistent consisting primarily of low LTV single-family mortgages, offset by $3 million of payoffs and paydowns. Nonperforming assets at March 31 totaled $37 million and included $1.1 million in two new REOs.

Our allowance for loan losses remained stable at 1.3% of total loans held for investment and represented 116% of nonperforming loans. Commercial real estate loans and construction and land development loans were stable at 39% and 7% of our total loans. And slides 6 and 7 have additional details about our exposure in these portfolios.

Slide 8 has details about our $1.5 billion residential mortgage portfolio, which consists of Welk secured non-QM mortgages, primarily in New York and California with an average LTV of 61%.

Slide 10, as details about our deposit franchise total deposits were $3 billion at the end of the first quarter, a $146 million decrease compared to the fourth quarter as we lap more expensive time deposits roll off and maintain non-interest bearing deposits relatively stable.

Our average all-in cost of deposits for the first quarter was 3.59%, an increase of 21 basis points from the fourth quarter. While we continue to see upward pressure on our funding costs, the actions we took in the last two quarters, namely redeeming $55 million of subordinated notes and reducing wholesale deposits has reduced the pace of increase.

We continue to implement longer-term strategies to attract lower cost deposits, which we expect will contribute to improved funding costs over time. Our tangible book value per share increased 1% during the first quarter to $23.68 due to earnings and accretive share repurchases, offset by a $1.5 million increase in unrealized losses on our securities portfolio and dividends of $3 million.

We authorized a share repurchase plan of up to 1 million shares at the end of February, and Richard repurchased about 80,000 shares during the first quarter. Our capital levels remained strong with all capital ratios above regulatory, well-capitalized levels. With that, we are happy to take your questions. Operator, would you please open up the call?

(Operator Instructions)

Nathan Race with Piper Sandler. Your line is live.

Yes, hi, everyone, and congrats, Lynne on the appointment formally. And just a question on the margin outlook. I think David alluded to in his comments that the first quarter may market a trough there. So just curious if that's actually the case and how you guys see the margin trending going forward in a higher for longer environment and also as I have, but our big answers are cut rates on the short end of the curve it starts from.

So I think when we are looking at our net interest margin, we were pleased with the 4 basis point compression compared to the prior quarter. I think with the higher for longer outlook, can the shape of the yield curve. And I think deposit pricing is still going to have some upward pressure on it. However, we've taken that into consideration the modest, I think originations in the first quarter and the repricings, we were able to see that it resulted in just four basis points of compression.

So with I think some opportunity for some loan growth, we would expect that our net interest margin, we'd have the ability to come up a little bit, but I think it's still pretty challenging currently. So I don't know if I would say our trough is a strong word, but I think based on the opportunity for growth, current interest rates, our funding, I think we have the opportunity for it to be stabilized or come up a little bit.

Okay. Great. That's helpful. And I appreciate it's a pretty fluid environment. But just curious if you guys have any thoughts on just the pace of both loan and deposit growth going forward this year?

We think the loan and deposit growth would be on top of this year. I think that's going to be in the low to mid-single digits. And I think loan growth will be more of a still to the end of the year from those who are lucky enough to get to rate cut, you may see some stimulation. But there if we're lucky enough to get one.

I think we've and we've been noticing that pipelines are filling up, though, and I think those remain healthy. It's really coming down to, I think, some price competition. And so being selective on how we're able to grow the portfolio. And so I think you saw that in the first quarter because we pivot to look into the rest of the year and there are some opportunities there.

Okay, great. Very helpful. And just one last one for me. I think last quarter on expenses, Lynn, we were talking about 17.5 and for this quarter, you guys obviously came in solidly below that here in 1Q. Just curious how you're thinking about the overall run rate trending in 2Q and 3Q as well.

Sure. I think last quarter, we talked about a range of $17 million to $17.5 million. First quarter can be a little bit higher with taxes and benefits. I think there's an opportunity for those to sort of stabilize. And we did have a recovery in this quarter was pushed down on some one of the line items. So I think that being around $17 million looks approximately correct. However, as we participate in more production and some modest loan growth, we could come up a little bit off of that, but around $17 million is appropriate for good group.

Thank you.

Erik Zwick with Hovde Group

Thank you. Hello, everyone. Wanted to start with maybe a follow-up. Lynn, for you mentioned that the land pipeline loan pipeline on your somewhat active today. Curious if you could provide any color in terms of if there's any particular kind of product types or geographic regions that are particularly stronger than others where you're seeing activity today.

Okay. We're seeing activity not in one specific area. We're seeing that both in New York and in California and we're seeing it over all loan categories and types. And all we're seeing that, including our retail mortgage market is getting stronger. And then we also see that the commercial side is getting much stronger, too. So we got it's kind of encouraging at this time. It is very price competitive it's extremely price competitive right now, if so.

Okay, thanks, David. I appreciate the commentary there. And I guess the kind of the read there, what's competitive on price on structure from your perspective is still reasonable? You're not seeing any competitors maybe kind of weakening there to be more competitive?

Our main competitors, we do not see anything changing on. We do have some competitors and they are in the marketplace that are tough that are not our main competitors that will take the loans without deposits, which is not our strategy at this time.

Okay. And then just from the press release, I think you mentioned about $208 million of securities available for sale and maturing over the next 12 months. Curious what the kind of average weighted yield on those might be and if you would just intend to kind of roll those back into new securities at higher yields. And I assume that's maybe already contemplated in the commentary you gave on the outlook for the margin at this point?

Sure. I think, how you phrase it is a reasonable assumption on our securities portfolio is appropriately sized for our balance sheet and with the securities rolling off, we are planning to reinvest in the portfolio and there is good opportunity now to move up the yield on the securities portfolio as we reinvest, given the current environment, but still looking to keep duration relatively short on kind of 4-year to 5-year range.

Okay, thank you. And then kind of switching over to you mentioned when you've kind of put in place some strategies on the deposit side through to improve the cost over time? And any color you could add there in terms of and what you've changed or what you've implemented recently?

Sure. I think everyone can appreciate and moving the deposit base is slow over time. It's a very competitive landscape. I think we're focused on opportunities to maybe transition a little bit of our CD base to savings and money market, maybe nonmaturity deposits with the expectation that we would be in a and declining rate environment.

But I think it's going to take a few quarters for that to be able to demonstrate any progress. And I think we have shared that we're focused on growing our C&I portfolio and the opportunities that are there with the expectation that that would have a positive impact on our non-interest bearing deposits and as we move forward.

Thanks and a quick follow-up there just in terms of how the relationship managers and lenders are compensated, any changes to kind of the incentives that were in place of more favor on bringing deposits in today in addition to loans.

So I can start and others can follow up and say, generally now, and I think we can all recognize that against stiff competition. So we think that we have a good incentive program for and the folks here and as we focus on bringing in non-interest bearing deposits. So I don't think there's any big changes, and that's reflected in our operating results.

Thanks for taking my questions.

Thank you.

Nathan Race with Piper Sandler.

Yes, hi, Eric. Just a follow-up on the expectations for share repurchases. Going forward, pace obviously slowed versus 4Q. So just curious for any updated thoughts in light of the updated authorization from a few weeks ago. I believe.

Sure, I think there is a little bit of a pause as we move through the process of reauthorizing our program. So I think at this point in time, given where our stock is priced and our tangible book value. We expect that we would remain active in our share repurchase at the maximum level that we're able to, but still subject to market conditions. And we'll be evaluating it from time to time. But I appreciate the first quarter looked a little bit lighter than fourth quarter as we transitioned into operating a new program.

Got you. So as things kind of stand today, do you think it will be closer to 4Q level in terms of future repurchases, at least over the next quarter or two?

So I think look, I think everyone needs to make their own investment decision. And I'm yes, I think that we need to be able to pivot as I appreciate what you're asking and I guess what I really want to comment on at this point is explain why we're a little bit lower for this quarter versus the fourth quarter. And it's only 1 million shares out there. So I think we have the cash and the capital levels if we choose to participate and I think you can probably make a reasonable assumption there.

Understood. Sounds good. And then just on fee income going forward, looks like the gain on sale revenue ticked up nicely versus the fourth quarter. Any thoughts on just the overall run rate for fees going forward?

Sure. Thanks for that question. And we have been successful in originating loans and participating in the secondary market and selling them. And I think we see that growing a bit as we move forward into 2024. And so that would be our our expectation and what the team is working on.

Okay, great. And then just one last one, just thinking about the reserve or ACL level going forward. And the obviously there's some nice improvement in credit quality. When you look at substandard and classified loans in the quarter, just any thoughts on just kind of the appetite to just continue to operate with this of both average ACL efficient? Or do you guys kind of see that trending down or do you kind of want to keep it where it has come on the first quarter just given expectations for loan growth going forward?

We do spend a lot of time analyzing and can we go through our process? I think some of it is going to be dependent on and how the credit cycle continues to unfold, how the economic environment we have I think our portfolio is well protected. Where I think the expectation is generally we like the level that it's at based on all the information that we have now. And to the extent that we have some growth, I think we would potentially have some reserves, but I think we got to continue to evaluate that going forward.

And we have a lot of capital. I think it's a healthy reserve, but we will have to monitor the year as it unfolds.

Okay thank you so much. Appreciate it guys. Taking the follow-ups again.

Thanks, Nathan.

Thank you. As we have no further questions on the line at this time, I'd like to hand the call back over to Mr. David Morris for any closing remarks.

Once again, thank you for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking to many of you in the coming days and weeks. Have a nice day.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's event. You may disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day, and we thank you for your participation.