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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the US Auto Parts Third Quarter 2010 Earnings Conference Call. (Operator Instructions.) I'd now like to hand the conference over to Ms. Shannon Rourke.

  • Shannon Rourke - IR

  • Welcome to the U.S. Auto Parts Third Quarter 2010 Conference Call. On the call today from the Company are Shane Evangelist, the Chief Executive Officer, and Ted Sanders, Chief Financial Officer.

  • 00 p.m. Eastern time. If you have not received your release, it is available on the Investor Relations portion of the US Auto Parts website at usautoparts.net, by clicking on the US Auto Parts Investor Relations tab. This call is being webcast and a replay will be available on the Company's website through November 22, 2010.

  • Before we begin, we would like to remind everyone that the prepared remarks contain certain forward-looking statements and Management may make additional forward-looking statements in response to your questions. These statements do not guarantee future performance and speak only as of the date hereof. We refer all of you to the risk factors contained in the US Auto Parts Annual Report on Form 10-K and Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission for a more detailed discussion on the factors that can cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in any forward-looking statement. US Auto Parts assumes no obligation to revise any forward-looking projections that may be made in today's release or call.

  • Please note that on today's call, in addition to discussing the GAAP financial results and the outlook for the Company, the following non-GAAP financial measures will be discussed - EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA. An explanation of US Auto Parts' use of these non-GAAP financial measures in this call and the reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP measures required by SEC Regulation G is included in US Auto Parts' press release today, which again can be found on the Investor Relations section of the Company's website. The non-GAAP information is not a substitute for any performance measure derived in accordance with GAAP, and the use of such non-GAAP measures have limitations which are detailed in the Company's press release.

  • With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Ted Sanders.

  • Ted Sanders - CFO

  • Thanks, Shannon. Unless otherwise stated, "this quarter" refers to consolidated Q3 2010, and "last year" refers to Q3 2009, and comparisons are Q3 2010 compared with Q3 2009. The legacy business refers to US Auto Parts exclusive of J.C. Whitney. Also, percentage and basis points discussed are calculated using net sales. For advertising, however, we will discuss using net Internet and catalogue sales.

  • Adjusted EBITDA for this quarter was $2.2 million, compared to adjusted EBITDA of $3.6 million last year. Adjusted EBITDA excludes non-cash share based compensation of $600,000 this quarter and $900,000 last year. Adjusted EBITDA for our legacy business was $4.2 million, up 14% from last year, exclusive of legal expenses to protect our intellectual property in both years.

  • Adjusted EBITDA for the partial quarter for J.C. Whitney was a loss of $100,000, exclusive of $1.6 million of restructuring and transaction related expenses. This quarter's net sales were $72 million, compared with $47 million last year. Legacy sales were $58.7 million, up 25% over last year, resulting from a 24% increase in online sales and a 38% increase in offline sales. The increase in net sales resulted from a 13% increase in conversion, a 9% increase in traffic, and a 3% increase in revenue capture, partially offset by a 2% decline in average order value. This quarter's gross margin was 33.2%, down from last year's 35.9%. Legacy margin was down--was 32.7%, down 3.2% from last year, comprised of 1.2% higher freight costs associated with fuel surcharges, .8% lower revenues from the discontinuation of certain traffic monetization programs, and 1% from a mix shift to lower margin engine parts from higher margin body parts.

  • This quarter's marketing expense, excluding advertising, was 7.7%, up from last year's 6.6%. Legacy marketing expense exclusive of advertising, was 7.0%, an increase of [40] basis points from last year, resulting from higher amortization costs related to software deployment. This year's advertising, which includes online and catalogue costs, was 8.2% of Internet and catalogue sales. Legacy advertising expense was 7.3%, down 10 basis points from last year, due to improved efficiencies. This quarter's general and administrative expense, which includes 2.2% of Whitney integration and restructuring expenses, was 11.3%, up from 10.9% last year. Legacy G&A expense was 9.5%, down 140 basis points from last year's 10.9% due to fixed cost leverage on higher sales.

  • Fulfillment expense was 5.7% this quarter, down from 6.2% last year. Legacy fulfillment was 5.8%, a decrease of 40 basis points from last year, primarily due to fixed cost leverage on higher sales. Technology expense was 2.3% this quarter, unchanged from last year. Legacy technology expense was 1.9%, a decrease of 40 basis points from last year, also due to fixed cost leverage on higher sales.

  • Visitors for the quarter were 34.8 million. Orders through our e-commerce and catalogue channel this quarter were 582,000. And average order value was $121. Legacy visitors were 29.4 million, up 8.5% from last year. Legacy conversion was 1.61%, up 12.6% from last year. Legacy revenue capture was 84.4%, up 2.7% from last year, but [AOV] was down 1.7% from last year. This quarter's customer acquisition cost was $8.29. The legacy customer acquisition cost for this quarter was $6.44, a decrease of $0.84, or 12%, from last year from more efficient advertising spend.

  • Turning to the balance sheet, quarter end cash and securities were $30.1 million, a decline of $14.2 million from Q2 2010, of which $12.6 million was used for acquisition of J.C. Whitney. Specifically, we invested $4.8 million net of debt to purchase J.C. Whitney, we paid down $5.8 million of old accounts payable, we incurred 900,000 of integration expenses net of expenses accrued, and we invested $600,000 for CapEx and 500,000 for inventory to support the business. The remaining $1.6 million cash was used by the legacy business to purchase private label engine and body parts.

  • Moving to J.C. Whitney's balance sheet, we published a preliminary opening balance sheet for J.C. Whitney in our 8-K/A filed on October 28, which reflects the fair value appraisal of J.C. Whitney's assets and liabilities on the acquisition date. These numbers are preliminary and will change over the next year as we finalize taxes among other items. Based on the latest preliminary appraisal numbers, we paid $55 million in cash and assumed liabilities for $51 million of assets. These numbers do not include 22 million of NOL carry forwards. We also told you last time we expected total cash impact of the acquisition to be $41 million, which is made up of the purchase price, outstanding payables, and integration expenses. We now anticipate the total cash to be closer to $44 million. We expect total CapEx for 2010 to be $14 million, including Whitney, and 2011 CapEx to be $13 million, of which $3 million relates to the integration of Whitney.

  • And with that, I would like to turn the call over to Shane.

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Thank you, Ted, and thanks all for joining the call. This was certainly a very exciting quarter for U.S. Auto Parts as we grew our core business well and completed the acquisition of the Whitney Automotive Group. We were very pleased with the strong revenue growth of our core business, up 25% year-over-year. This marks the fifth consecutive quarter of 25%-plus year-over-year growth.

  • Driving this growth was a combination of tracked conversion increases - our visitors were up 9% in the quarter, underscoring the macro trends of people keeping their cars longer - coupled with an increased desire for people to do more work on their cars themselves. We fortunate to have favorable macro trends and anticipate them continuing for the foreseeable future.

  • As it relates to the Company's actions, we continue to be focused on increasing our private label engine SKU count that is now over 5,000 SKUs. We anticipate adding over 5,000 private label engine SKUs annually. In addition to private label SKUs, we have an additional 200,000 competitively priced branded SKUs on the site this year compared to last year, helping drive conversion as consumers (inaudible) the product they're seeking.

  • Comparing to adjusted EBITDA, we have opportunities for improvement here. Adjusted EBITDA flow through for the core business was 7.2%. We'd prefer that to be closer to 9% at these revenue levels. The primary reason adjusted EBITDA was not closer to 9% is in large part due to margins being below our target. There are three main factors that caused margins to be below our target. The first is product mix, as we've sold more branded parts in Q3 than other quarters. We also had cost increases on trade expense that we haven't passed along to the consumer aggressively enough, but will be going forward. Finally, some of our pricing is a little bit more aggressive than it probably needs to be. We're evaluating pricing now and we have been making some pricing adjustments to determine how to best maximize gross profit dollars. We expect margins to increase it should be close to 34% and above going forward [short term]. We also anticipate future margin expansion as we continue to make our supply chain more efficient.

  • Moving on to our latest acquisition, the Whitney Automotive Group brings us great brand presence, product line expansion, and increased distribution capabilities. The acquisition's going very well. We have already integrated one of WAG's sites called carparts.com to our platform. Everything from the front end user 3experience to the call center operations to product fulfillment to the back end catalogue has been cutover. And while carparts.com was a very small site for WAG, we have already seen an increase in conversion and sales as a result of the cutover to our technology.

  • StylinTrucks.com continues to be on track to cutover in the first quarter of 2011, and JCWhitney.com continues to be on track to cutover in the second quarter of 2011. Once J.C. Whitney is cutover, the integration will be completed. We continue to believe that once the integration is complete the WAG assets will produce annualized adjusted EBITDA of around $8 to $10 million and annualized sales of $115 million. We will begin to recognize the majority of those benefits in the back half of 2011.

  • We believe that once integrated, WAG's properties can grow similar to our core business as the current WAG business is in a similar state as US Auto Parts when I took over as CEO in 2007. The catalogue data needs to be improved considerably. There was very limited competitive intelligence to understand market pricing. There has been limited brand and SKU additions. And the private label business has been neglected. We believe we can grow the WAG assets by applying our growth recipe, by improving the customer experience, competitively pricing SKUs through market intelligence, bringing a stronger private label business, and adding additional brands and SKUs.

  • On to Auto MD. We continue to have around 300,000 unique visitors per month, however, we are getting more of our visitors through organic search versus from our own properties and pleased with some of our progress on SEO initiatives. As you--as some of you have noticed and asked questions about, we have launched a pilot offering in Los Angeles called the Auto MD Pit Crew. Let me start by telling you expectations accordingly. This is only a pilot and while we believe there is a significant upside from this initiative, the logistics of this initiative are very complicated and we may ultimately find out the complexity of this business may prohibit growth. That being said, the best way to describe the Auto MD Pit Crew is the Geek Squad for automotive repair where consumers can select mechanics to come to them, either to their home or to the office to repair their vehicles. The initiative goes far beyond the AAA call. The Auto MD Pit Crew will address every car repair that doesn't physically require presence in a shop, which we estimate to be well over 50% of repair jobs.

  • We are initially focused in Los Angeles for signing up mechanics to perform the service. Once we have signed up enough mechanics, we will open it up to the public to book service and start to dispatch mechanics. We are also working with local parts suppliers to be able to supply parts to these mechanics. We will update you more on the service as we begin to get traction and learn more about how the program will ultimately work. And again, I will remind you that this is only a pilot and may ultimately be too complex to be successful.

  • In the current quarter, we are trending up 25% over last year and expect growth between 15 to 25% for the quarter, based on last year's comps, price testing as we look to maximize gross profit dollars, and reactions to recent online marketplace changes.

  • At a high level, the current combination of US Auto Parts and WAG was generated on $330 million in sales. We believe once the business is fully integrated, the EBITDA flow through margin will be roughly 9% on the $330 million in sales. We also believe that any growth above $330 million will have incremental adjusted EBITDA margin flow through of around 17 to 21%, and we believe this incremental flow through will be accomplished with double digit growth. We will update you further as we get more and more of the merger integrated and accomplished.

  • In closing, I would say we were three out of four for the quarter. We had great growth, especially when compared to the previous comparable period. We completed a great acquisition and are on track to complete the integration on time. We made good progress in Auto MD and we're testing ways to enter the [do-it-for-you] market. However, we didn't deliver the proper EBITDA results we would like and we'll address that in coming quarter.

  • All in all, we continue to be--we continue to make good progress and look forward to a great 2011. I want to thank you again for participating on the call. And at this time, Operator, we'll open up the call for questions.

  • Operator

  • Yes, sir. (Operator Instructions.) Our first question comes from the line of Shawn Milne with Janney Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

  • Shawn Milne - Analyst

  • Thank you and thanks for taking my questions. Shane, I wanted to start off, if I could, just sort of the dynamic between trading off maybe a little bit faster growth for your gross margins. I'm just wondering post the acquisition where the Company might have better leverage with their shipping carriers and better fixed cost leverage, if you might not just be better off driving faster growth even though your pricing, as you put it, may be more aggressive than it needs to be.

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Yes. Shawn, I think certainly we look at multiple options around this which is growth and incremental gross margin dollars generated from that versus higher margin. So I think we're at a point now where we're saying, hey, I think we should start to do a little bit more optimization around those pieces. We haven't taken some freight increases and passed them along and I think there's some areas--places that we can do that and places we can't. So I think, Shawn, the reality is, it's probably more of an optimization play for us right now. Certainly, we want to continue to grow. We think the market's ready for growth. We also think that incremental flow through is an important part of this business on a go-forward basis. So we'll continue to do--we'll continue to look at those options. And what I would tell you now is I don't think it's a problem moving the gross margin percent back up and we certainly wouldn't do it if we weren't going to grow and--with this optimization piece.

  • Shawn Milne - Analyst

  • Okay, that's helpful. And then, the second piece is you indicated October was up 25%, which appears to be a very good number as your comps get more difficult. Can you give us what the October 2009 comp was? And then, Shane, you went on to say you do expect some slowdown throughout the quarter. Is that just the comp getting more difficult or is it again piece--a piece of that, the price testing? And exactly what did you mean by the online marketplace changes? Is that eBay?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Yes. So I'm going to get you to October '09 here in a second. These guys are looking that up and if I forget to answer that, remind me. Yes, so for one is the comp gets stronger although some of the recent numbers I looked at right now, we were up 30 to 40% last year, so we're still at decent comps on that number during this period. Specific to the back half of the year, one that comp can suffer, too, we're actually doing some price testing and we're going to see what happens on that. What I don't want to do is not price test aggressively one way or the other because essentially you have to move it pretty aggressive one way or the other to get a good read. And that may impact sales in the quarter and I'm okay with that as long as we get good reads out of that.

  • To your point on eBay, and yes, my marketplace, eBay has made some changes. It has impacted us. But on eBay, we typically make changes and grow with eBay. And this isn't unusual for eBay to make changes and then for us to change how we do our business and we've always continued to grow eBay. So there's no reason to believe long term we won't keep growing eBay. Short term it will have a bit of an impact on us.

  • Shawn Milne - Analyst

  • Okay. And if you've got that other number, that would be great and I'll jump back in queue. Thank you.

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Yes.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Richard Fetyko with Merriman Capital. Please go ahead.

  • Richard Fetyko - Analyst

  • Good evening, guys. First, a clarification. You mentioned on the 300 million revenues you expect to have a 9% EBITDA flow through, and then beyond that 17 to 20%. Is that right?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • That's correct. It's 330, Richard.

  • Richard Fetyko - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • And I'm sorry, let me just--hey, Richard, let me be clear on that. That's once integration is completely done. So I wouldn't model 330 at 9% right now, because the first half of 2011 we'll still be integrating the business and we'll be getting that flow through for the first half of the year.

  • Richard Fetyko - Analyst

  • I see. Okay. And then, just curious, with the cutover of CarParts.com, what have you seen? I assume that you guys think that you can generate better direct traffic and SEO as well as SEM traffic to that site. I was just wondering if so far it's proven to be true or is it too early to tell?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Right. So carparts.com, first off, was a very small site for them. With that said, we've seen an increase in conversion immediately upon the cutover. And we'll start to see traffic as we now start to build the traffic. Just so you have an appreciation for how we cut these sites over. We take their existing site and we essentially replicate the entire experience from a front end perspective, so that we don't lose any traffic from Google organic search. We then merchandise it differently with our product set and our pricing set. So what you've seen is an effective move of our technology team over to and not loss of any traffic moving from their platform to our platform. And then, what you've seen is an increase in conversion as a result of that. And what we hope to see is some stuff similar on the other side going forward. Carparts was clearly the easiest one for us to move, but it was a--it was positive on the move.

  • Richard Fetyko - Analyst

  • What about the combination of the two catalogues? Theirs was heavy on accessories, yours on volume engines. Sort of I guess cross sell synergies. At what point will that be layered on?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • To the Whitney catalogue?

  • Richard Fetyko - Analyst

  • I suppose both ways, right? In taking Whitney's catalogue and layering it onto your sites and vice versa?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Yes. So we've taken the--we're taking the first 5,000 SKUs that moved pretty quick on Whitney's site and getting them into our catalogue relatively quickly to start to merchandise that on our product set. With that said, the big move probably takes place when we convert all of their SKUs over. So we think we'll see--the big benefit from that is going to come in the second quarter of 2011 when we cutover their complete catalogue to our system. So I think if you were going to say, hey, when should you see the big pickup from that, probably once the integration is completely done.

  • Richard Fetyko - Analyst

  • So when you say you'll cutover their catalogue to your system, meaning you'll layer on their product selections onto your own websites?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • As well as the other way around, too, yes.

  • Richard Fetyko - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • So we're right now essentially--think about it this way. They've got a catalogue, a data catalogue that we are replicating and putting into our system. It will take us--it's about a million--it's a little over a million SKUs, so it will take us about nine months to get that fully completed and put into our catalogue. And once that's done, we'll deploy that across our site as well as when we cut J.C. Whitney over onto our platform, then of course they get all of the SKUs that are currently in our catalogue.

  • Richard Fetyko - Analyst

  • Right. And I'm sorry, what did you say about the 5,000 fastest moving SKUs, that you've already cutover those?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Yes, we're starting to cut those over now and we're getting those out into properties like eBay and onto our own sites.

  • Richard Fetyko - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • But I think the bigger pickup, Richard, is getting engine parts and body parts on the Whitney property, because I think there is more permission there to sell that product versus accessory business onto our property, not that we can't move it. It's just that those sites are a little bit better designed for the accessory business and it's easier to move to a hard parts and accessory category than I think vice versa.

  • Richard Fetyko - Analyst

  • I see. All right, that's all I have for now. Thanks.

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Thanks.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Jared Schramm with Roth Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Hey, Jared.

  • Jared Schramm - Analyst

  • Could you provide a little additional color on the inventory move over from your site in Carson, the J.P. Whitney facility? How much more of that do you think you have to go and how's that progressing?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Okay, so I'm a little confused. I apologize, Jared. Give it--one, I was getting a number here. Shawn's question earlier, Internet-only comp October of last year was 37%. So about what the quarter looked like last year on that 25 over 37. So Shawn, there's that answer. One more time, Jared. I apologize.

  • Jared Schramm - Analyst

  • Just a question on how the--moving inventory from your Carson facility over to J.C. Whitney facility. How's that going and how much more do you think you have to go there?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Yes, so it's going well. We've got--Whitney--at a high level, Whitney's distribution operation was designed essentially for smaller product like the engine business or smaller accessory business where our distribution centers were built and optimized for big engine--I mean, for big body parts, crash parts. And so, we are--J.C. Whitney's distribution location is now a fully functional node in our system, meaning we can take an order on the auto parts warehouse site and actually have it fulfilled out of J.C. Whitney. So the integration of that's completed. And we'll--I think what you'll see us do is when we reorder products for stock, we'll actually reorder it into the Whitney distribution center versus reordering it into our own distribution centers because they can now ship for us. And that's probably what you'll see going forward from inventory build there versus us truly trying to move a lot of product out of one DC to the other.

  • Jared Schramm - Analyst

  • Okay. And with the economy improving marginally here, how are you expecting accessory sales in Q4, particularly the holiday period?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Yes. So we'll see accessory sales increase in the holiday period, or I should say that typically J.C. Whitney's Stylin' Trucks has seen accessory sales increase in the holiday period. So their bigger periods are the fourth quarter and the second quarter when the ground starts to thaw and people can start working on their vehicles again. We haven't actually forecasted lines. We probably won't be forecasting lines by quarter on a go-forward basis, but we do anticipate an increase in accessory sales for the quarter.

  • Jared Schramm - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Mitch Bartlett with Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.

  • Mitchell Bartlett - Analyst

  • Yes. Hi, Shane. Just the J.C. Whitney business, what kind of business--what kind of momentum did you buy? I mean--and what has been the changes since you've taken ownership in that momentum? Was there some disruption in the overall business? I know you're porting things over and all. And then, separately for Ted, the inventory that came with J.C. Whitney or the inventory that resides on the core business, the legacy business you called it, what was that number and how's that trending?

  • Ted Sanders - CFO

  • Yes. I'll answer the inventory real quick for you. On the inventory side for the legacy business, about 34 million at the end of the quarter. Now, keep in mind that if you look at that versus earlier times, let's take a year ago, for example, we're at--it's quite a big jump at 19 million year-over-year and it's about 8 million in the last quarter. Now, keep in mind that 5 million of that is branded SKUs. And that's stuff that we get terms on, so there is really no cash out and we're bringing more and more branded SKUs in-house. The second piece of that is we have about 6 million or so between last year and this year and about 2 million or so of what we call private label engine SKUs, okay? So that's growth in private label engine. Then, the final piece is what we call our body part business, which we have about a $4.5 million increase in the body part inventory. Now, the reason we did that, Mitch, is we--at the end of last quarter, we had a no fill rate that was approaching about 6% and this quarter we ordered more inventory so that we wouldn't have that--such a high no fill rate.

  • If you really do the math on that thing, the inventory brought in was about--returned at about 25% on our cash from the increase in inventory. However, keep in mind that last year we ramped up our inventory at the end of the year and we do not expect necessarily to be doing that this year. So that's kind of where we're at with inventory. So a lot of that increase, again, was this private label engine SKU and the branded SKU, and [indeed], again that was body--reflects what we needed to do to bring our no fill rate down.

  • Mitchell Bartlett - Analyst

  • And during this period, I mean, before we get to just the overall momentum of J.C. Whitney, during this period of inventory ramp have you changed kind of your mark downs or write offs of inventory, that kind of percentage or policy during this ramp?

  • Ted Sanders - CFO

  • No, not at all.

  • Mitchell Bartlett - Analyst

  • So everything is selling through fine?

  • Ted Sanders - CFO

  • That is correct. We haven't changed our--the way we do the accounting (inaudible).

  • Mitchell Bartlett - Analyst

  • That's terrific. Okay.

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • On the momentum, Mitch, the Whitney business was trending down about 5%. It's still--on a year-over-year basis it's similar on the entire entity of WAG. There were a few of their properties that weren't doing as well as the previous year. Interestingly enough, JCWhitney.com is actually starting to accelerate a little bit, which is good. (Inaudible) dropping down a little bit. Overall, the business is similar to where it was prior to us taking it over. I wouldn't expect significant movement in that business until we truly can get it on our platform and apply sort of the best practices that we've applied. And then, you'd say, well, why can't you do it faster? Well, the reason you can't go faster is you really don't want to lose the three to 3.5 million visitors that show up to that site, right? So you've got to be maniacally focused on making sure that when you cut the front ends over to your backend system that in fact you keep that traffic. Once you cut it over and keep that traffic, I think that's when you can start to apply what we would consider incremental private label growth where we do certainly more competitive pricing, where we start to see incremental SKUs and better catalogue management.

  • Mitchell Bartlett - Analyst

  • And so, there--just to clarify, there have--there's been really very little disruption in that traffic as it was trending before the acquisition post-acquisition?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Yes. I mean, there's not--I would say this. The J.C. Whitney platform is up, but overall I would say that the overall--JCWhitney.com itself is up, but overall, you're seeing similar trends that relate to revenue and traffic. And I would also--I would just again reiterate that you aren't going to see the big improvement to this platform until we cut it all over in the second quarter. That's when you should start to say, okay, where are you growing that platform at or what's the new baseline on that platform and what's the growth on it?

  • Mitchell Bartlett - Analyst

  • And the difference between the 41 and the $44 million was how--.

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • --It was a little bit of what we anticipated being able to pull out of the business faster from reduction in capital. We were a little bit more conservative--or we're here more conservative on what was capitalized--what we capitalized versus what Whitney had capitalized until essentially what we anticipated to pull out of the business faster wasn't pulled out as quick because it was more an operating expense for us where we had thought we would eliminate it from a capital perspective. At the end it's all going to go away anyway. We just--it's just--we just thought we'd probably pull a million or two out in EBITDA quicker.

  • Mitchell Bartlett - Analyst

  • Great. That's it for me. Another great quarter.

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. (Operator Instructions.) Our next question comes from the line of Gary Prestopino with Barrington Research. Please go ahead.

  • Gary Prestopino - Analyst

  • Shane, Ted, how are you?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Hey, Gary.

  • Gary Prestopino - Analyst

  • A lot of moving parts here. I'm wondering if you could do this on the conference for us just in terms of you talked about porting over one site that you've done. And maybe you could talk about on an integration basis what we should--what we can expect on a quarter by quarter basis, just so we have some milestones to look at. And then, this should all be done when, by the end of 2011, Shane?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Yes. Well, our goal, Gary--so here are the milestones for you, Gary. We should--in the first quarter of 2011 we should port over stylintrucks.com, which to put that in perspective was about a $20 million piece of the business.

  • Gary Prestopino - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • And then, in the second quarter of 2011, we should port over J.C. Whitney by the end of that quarter. And it might be up a little bit in the third quarter, but I suspect our guys are telling me no major surprises at this point. And they actually were ahead of the game on car parts, so that's good. So those probably have been two big milestones. Distribution operations have all been integrated, so there isn't any sort of concern from that perspective. And those are the big milestones I think you should hear from us as it relates to the cutover. EBITDA will be minimal from J.C. Whitney and the WAG properties in the first half of the year. And then, we believe you'll see good growth in the back half of the year from that perspective, once everything's fully integrated.

  • Gary Prestopino - Analyst

  • Okay. What about taking advantage of some of your labor arbitrages? When do we start seeing that, too, in the second half of next year?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • That's right. That's the right way to think about it, Gary.

  • Gary Prestopino - Analyst

  • Okay. And then, in terms of when you first announced this acquisition, you kind of said that by the end of 2011 you would be generating 35 million of EBITDA on an adjusted annual run rate basis. Is that still a good number or have you come off that a little bit?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • No. Yes, I still think it's a good number. I think we expected--we expect some growth on the core business in 2011. So we expect to see growth there. So what I would tell you is probably the easiest way to think about this, Gary, on $330 million of revs, which would be essentially taking both businesses and combining them today on sort of a run rate basis, I think you get 9% flow through or around 9% flow through. And then, I think anything that you grow on top of that is somewhere between 17 to 21%, which is why coming out of 2011 you can start to see a run rate basis closer to the number you just gave me.

  • Gary Prestopino - Analyst

  • Okay. And then (inaudible) what have been some of your more pleasant surprises versus possibly issues or disappointments?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • I'm sorry. I was talking over you, Gary. One more time.

  • Gary Prestopino - Analyst

  • In the brief time period that you've owned it, what have you--have been some of your more pleasant surprises with the Company versus maybe something that cropped up that wasn't up to your expectations?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Yes. So I think the one surprise that we got was the capital--the CapEx versus OpEx treatment on our side versus their side. So that was sort of the--probably the one thing that was a little bit of a surprise. But still you're--we're still within 10% of what we thought this whole acquisition would cost us. So not a--I wouldn't say it was a crazy number. We're very, very pleased with the talent level, the skill level of the folks, specifically on the ground. I think their catalogue team is very good. When I say catalogue, I mean the paper catalogue distribution team. The analytics behind that are very good. Those guys are solid. I think that the distribution capabilities are very exciting to us. The efficiencies inside the distribution capabilities are great. Again, it's a very automated system, very well designed for sort of a distribution of accessories and hard parts.

  • So we're excited about those things. And we're still very--we're still tickled pink about what we got. And of course, as I said to you guys earlier, and maybe not everybody understands this, but our Chief Operating Officer, Aaron Coleman, actually moved to Chicago with his family. And so, he's actually there overseeing the entire integration. So it feels good to have a guy with his skill set on the ground. We're not just a team trying to operate this business from California. He's there.

  • Gary Prestopino - Analyst

  • Well, good for him. He could vote here.

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Yes.

  • Gary Prestopino - Analyst

  • Just real quickly, when you look at this, and I don't have these numbers in front of me, but the SKUs you had pre the acquisition to where the SKUs you'll be in a year or so, could you just give us a general idea?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • I think you can safely say that the SKU count will be up about 1 million SKUs when it's fully integrated. I mean, it's--we have them now, but we'll--our core base catalogue will probably be up 1 million--some people are telling me 1.5 million in our new core catalogue.

  • Gary Prestopino - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. (Operator Instructions.) Our next question comes from the line of Stephen Ju with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

  • Stephen Ju - Analyst

  • Hey, guys. Can you give us some color in terms of what's causing the pickup in unique visitors even sequentially and year-over-year? It seems to be a bit of a better than expected pickup here on what's looking like a flattish marketing expense. Thanks.

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Yes. I think--Stephen, I think this is just benefiting from being in the aftermarket auto parts space where the average age of the car is getting older, parts are failing. Couple that with the fact that people are doing more work themselves and we're the company with the biggest presence, so we're probably going to benefit from the growth. I think it's that simple. I mean, our guys--I wouldn't underscore the fact that our guys are pretty good at what they do to get presence in part names that we didn't currently have presence on. So I certainly wouldn't want to underscore that our guys are pretty good at figuring out where we're not showing up and where we need to get a better presence. But at the same time, I think the macro trends are pretty good.

  • Stephen Ju - Analyst

  • Okay. Have you seen that momentum continue into the fourth quarter as well in terms of the uniques?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Yes. Well, we've seen--I don't--I apologize. I don't have the breakdown of uniques to conversion in front of me to have that 25% number that I indicated we're up right now for the quarter. But it would--I don't think I'd be surprised. I suspect the mix between the two are pretty similar as it relates to the growth rate.

  • Stephen Ju - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks. Bye.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of John Lawrence with Morgan Keegan. Please go ahead.

  • Matt Beasley - Analyst

  • Hey. This is [Matt Beasley] sitting in for John Lawrence. Shane, I just wanted to ask you if you had some general commentary on the competitive landscape going forward, especially in light of some traditional brick and mortar retailers committing more resources to building out their online platforms?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Yes. So certainly, it's been a focus for them. And we've seen more online retailers. But they still have some of the same channel conflicts they've had previously. In fact, I think if you look at O'Reilly's recent quarter call, in one of the quotes they said, we're a little bit hand tied when it comes to pricing on the Internet because we internal don't want to price lower on the Internet than we would price for one of our stores than our local customers there. So I think you're seeing this sort of internal discussion between pricing in store and pricing online. And of course, their in store margins are significantly higher than our online margins, so you can appreciate that it's possible that pricing online is a little bit more aggressive than the in-store number.

  • With that said, I think they're also seeing it as a tremendous opportunity to capture a person who wants to buy right now, a customer who wants to go in that store and get that part. And a lot of people are turning to the Internet for information. Half of our customers that come shop our sites have no intent to buy with us that day. So they intend to go price shopping and go into a store. And so, I think that what you're seeing is a real big focus of these guys knowing the consumers are shopping online, and then looking online for prices to understand what it looks like and then heading into a store. And I think they're trying to take advantage of that, and frankly, if I was them, I'd be doing the same thing.

  • Matt Beasley - Analyst

  • Okay. Thanks for the color. I'll turn it back.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. And our next question is a follow up question from the line of Mitch Bartlett with Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.

  • Mitchell Bartlett - Analyst

  • A follow up on a follow up. He just asked about competition. How about Internet-only competition? Any rise, any changes there in that landscape? And then, maybe if you could just address the headcount changes in the Philippines. Any movement there?

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • So Internet landscape's very similar to where it was a quarter ago, Mitch. We're not seeing any dramatic changes one way or the other from that perspective. Headcount change in the Philippines, I don't have that number in front of me. You're probably seeing a little bit of growth right now because we're starting to ramp up our catalogue capabilities over there as well as we're starting to ramp up our marketing SEO capabilities for the new properties we bought. So we want to make sure we can get our catalogue cutover and we want to make sure that the sites are optimized properly for search. And so, we're starting to build from that perspective. But outside of that, I don't think there's significant increases overseas in the Philippines yet.

  • Mitchell Bartlett - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. And Management, I have no further questions in the queue. I'll hand it back for any further remarks.

  • Shane Evangelist - CEO

  • Well, first, we appreciate you guys taking the time to listen to our call. Certainly, our phones are open if you have any follow up questions. And we look forward to following up with you at the next call. Take care.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude the US Auto Parts Third Quarter 2010 Earnings Conference Call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.