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  • Operator

  • Good day and welcome to the PROS Holdings Third Quarter 2014 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Charlie Murphy, Executive Vice President and CFO. Please go ahead, sir.

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone and thank you for joining us today for the PROS Holdings' financial results conference call for the third quarter of 2014. This is Charlie Murphy, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of PROS. Joining me on today's call is Andres Reiner, President and Chief Executive Officer. In today's conference call, Andres will provide a commentary on the third quarter 2014 and then I will review the financial results and our outlook before we open up the call to questions.

  • Before we begin, we must caution you that some of today's remarks, including our guidance for the year, our competitive position, future business prospects, revenue growth, market opportunities, as well as statements made during the question-and-answer session contain forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to numerous and important factors, risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ from the results implied by these or other forward-looking statements.

  • Also, these statements are based solely on the present information and are subject to risks and uncertainties that can cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements. Additional information concerning risk and other factors that may cause actual results to differ can be found in the company's filings with the SEC. Also, please note that a replay of today's webcast will be available in the Investor Relations section of our website at pros.com.

  • Finally, PROS has provided in its earnings release and will provide in this conference call forward-looking guidance on a non-GAAP basis. We will not provide any further guidance or updates on our performance during the year, unless we do so in a public forum. PROS does not assume any obligation to update the forward-looking statements provided to reflect events that occur or circumstances that exist, after the date on which they are made.

  • I would also like to point out that in addition to reporting financial results in accordance with Generally Accepted Accounting Principles or GAAP, PROS reports certain non-GAAP financial results. Investors are encouraged to review the reconciliation of each non-GAAP measure to the most directly comparable GAAP measure in the tables accompanying the press release distributed earlier today, which can also be found on our website in the Investor Relations section.

  • With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Andres.

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • Thank you, Charlie and thanks to all who are joining us on today's call. I'm pleased to report that we had a strong third quarter with non-GAAP revenue exceeding the high end of guidance at $48.7 million, a 32% year-over-year increase. Non-GAAP operating income was $5.5 million and non-GAAP EPS was $0.11 per share both exceeding the high end of guidance. I'm proud of the entire team at PROS for delivering this great result. We are pleased that our business is strong, as we continue to execute on our long-term diversified growth strategy. We have added a record number of new customers through the first nine months of the year. Our sales pipeline continues to strengthen and demand continues to grow with record number of RFPs year-to-date.

  • Our partner ecosystem is contributing with an increasing number of opportunities sourced by partners in each of the last five quarters resulting in partner source wins and partner led implementations. Our team in Europe has done a great job bringing sales execution back in line with our expectations and we're confident they will continue to perform. We are setting the basic of innovation in the market with recent product releases for both our B2B and B2C customers. We made great progress integrating both Cameleon and SignalDemand. Our teams are working together under a unified strategy to continue creating unmatched value for customers and further differentiating PROS in the market. All of these incredible accomplishments are just a few reasons why we are confident in our long-term growth outlook and why we believe we're in a strong position to capitalize on the large market opportunity. We believe PROS is uniquely suited to help companies increase revenues at a time when growth is the top concern among CEOs.

  • According to PwC's 17th Annual Global Survey, 84% of CEOs are making changes to their customer growth and retention activities to capitalize on global trends that will affect their business. Moreover, 75% of CEOs have plans to change how they're using data in data analytics to capitalize on their market opportunities. We believe these data points favor PROS given our decades of experience helping companies across more than 40 sub-industries turn their data into revenue. For example, in the third quarter Rexam selected PROS to help drive growth by using data to improve their customer experience and increase agility. Headquartered in London, Rexam is one of the world's leading beverage can makers with 55 manufacturing sites in 20 countries. The company operates in a highly competitive global marketplace subject to raw material and currency fluctuations that can affect revenue, margins and customer satisfaction. PROS global solution helps increase responsiveness to market changes by enabling real-time rapid price changes across all markets, product lines and customers all powered by our predictive and prescriptive analytics.

  • PROS best-in-class integration with SAP ensures seamless integration with Rexam's ERP system. We are honored to have been selected by Rexam and look forward to helping them better navigate the volatile markets with precision and speed, while also improving their customer experience.

  • Since our last call, we've made great progress in extending our product leadership position through new innovations. We acquired Cameleon with the vision of delivering a single end-to-end sales effectiveness solution that combines the power predictive and prescriptive analytics with the simplicity of quoting automation. We're excited to deliver on that vision. With the recent release of Cameleon CPQ Fall '14 setting a new standard for what customers should expect in a CPQ solution. This unique solution embeds prescriptive price guidance powered by data science into the automated quoting process. Sales reps enjoy seamless, streamline experience that gives them greater confidence and speed when quoting.

  • We believe intelligent business applications that combine automation with data science offer the best opportunity to improve performance and gain an edge in the market. In fact, researchers at MIT predict that companies have figured out how to combine domain expertise with data science will pull away from [their rivals] and this is exactly what we offer.

  • Another new innovation recent -- is a recently announced Group Sales Optimizer for travel customers. This real-time group booking solution integrates dynamic pricing with powerful sales effectiveness, revenue management and contract management capabilities. This is a great example of leveraging our B2B expertise and capabilities for B2C customers. Innovation such as our CPQ release and Group Sales Optimizer are the foundation of our growth strategy and they are hallmark of PROS.

  • We will continue investing in product innovations to further extend our product leadership position in the market. We continue to execute on strategies to increase awareness and adoption. Our Platinum Sponsorship at Dreamforce is a recent example. Our strong presence and visibility at the event supports our strategy of aligning with the large (inaudible) ecosystem and resulted in a record number of leads from this event. In line with our vertical go-to-market strategy, PROS was showcasing three demo centers in manufacturing, automotive and telecom areas of salesforce.com industry pavilion. PROS success stories were spotlighted in numerous education sessions led by customers. Bausch & Lomb, Blackboard and Medtronic held a panel discussion on how our CPQ solution improved their sales effectiveness. HP presented how Accenture and PROS partnered together to help HP increase win rates and improve margins by more than 200 basis points. Merck Millipore shared how they are harmonizing the lead to order process by connecting sales force, PROS and SAP. We're honored to have such great customers and partners share their experiences at events like Dreamforce.

  • Customer success is central to both our mission and our growth strategy. For that reason, we were especially pleased to have been recently recognized as one of the top three IT vendors of the year by Coles, an Australian customer in the food industry. Coles purchase our mix optimization solution last year to improve margins. The customer specifically cited that no other vendor deliver ROI to pay for a project that's fast as we did which was in approximately 60 days. This recognition underscores our relentless commitment to customer success. In the magnitude of impact, our solutions can have on our customers business.

  • From a people standpoint, we continue to scale our leadership team for long-term growth. I'm pleased to share that Tim Girgenti, who has served as our Chief Marketing Officer for the past one and a half years is now our Chief Strategy Officer. This is not new for Tim, as the CMO, he led strategy in addition to its marketing responsibilities. His experience with customers and the market make him a natural fit for this role. I'm also pleased that we promoted within our deep bench of leaders to fill the CMO role. Our new Chief Marketing Officer is Patrick Schneidau, a 10-year veteran of PROS, who has held leadership positions in sales, product and marketing. Patrick is a proven and successful leader, whose passion for sales and marketing matches his experience working with customers. Patrick is well suited for this role and I'm excited he will now contribute as our new CMO. Overall we're pleased with our strong performance in the third quarter. The investments we're making in driving awareness and adoption, extending our product leadership position and expanding our global reach and scale are working. The fundamentals of our business are strong and we're confident with our long-term growth outlook. We believe we're uniquely positioned to meet the increasing demand for solutions that can turn big data into revenue. We will continue to invest in our growth strategies to capitalize on our large market opportunity.

  • I will now turn the call over to Charlie so he can provide you with a review of our financial result and our outlook for the fourth quarter and full year 2014.

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • Thanks, Andres. I will be discussing our financial results on a non-GAAP basis. As I mentioned at the beginning of this call a full GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation is included in our earnings release, which can also be found on our website in the Investor Relations section.

  • We are pleased with our performance in the third quarter with total non-GAAP revenue of $48.7 million, exceeding the high end of our guidance and an increase of 32% from a year ago. The $48.7 million of non-GAAP revenue includes organic revenue growth of $41.7 million or 13% organic growth over the same period in the prior year. While we report on the revenue contribution from acquisition separately till the end of 2014, we are already operating as one organization with a single sales force and integrated product development teams. We are pleased to see the improvement in our organic revenue growth from Q2. And as previously discussed on the last earnings call, we expect these trends to continue in the fourth quarter.

  • License revenue was $11.9 million, an increase of 9% from the same period a year ago. License revenue recognized on contract execution was approximately 3% of total revenue for the quarter. This is less than the prior quarters primarily because of the higher mix of existing customer bookings with the percentage of completion accounting in the quarter. As a reminder, license revenue recognized at contract execution does not go into our backlog and our backlog to revenue metrics disclosed at year end.

  • Service revenue was $14.9 million, an increase of $2.7 million or 22% from a year ago. For the third quarter, non-GAAP subscription revenue, which is comprised of cloud services, SaaS and term license contracts was $7.4 million, an increase of $5.4 million or a 276% increase over the prior year. Our acquisitions were the primary contributors to our subscription revenue growth.

  • Maintenance revenue was $14.6 million for the quarter, a 24% increase over year ago and represented the largest component revenue from recurring sources. Total recurring revenue represented 45% of total revenue driven by both organic and inorganic sources. This compares to 37% of total revenue in the prior year. For the nine months ended September 30th, our recurring revenue increased from $40 million to $59.8 million or 49% increase over the same period in 2013.

  • Non-GAAP gross margins in the third quarter were approximately 72%, as compared to 71.5% in the third quarter of 2013. Total gross margins vary from period-to-period primarily due to the level of implementation services required relative to the total contract value and the timing of license revenue recognition.

  • Total non-GAAP operating expenses for the quarter were $29.6 million compared with $20 million a year ago and increased to 49%. Non-GAAP operating income in the third quarter was $5.5 million compared with $6.3 million a year ago. Non-GAAP operating margins for the quarter were approximately 11%. Our non-GAAP operating income exceeded guidance primarily as a result of our modestly higher revenue and modestly higher gross profit performance.

  • Note that, in addition to the $6.1 million of non-cash stock-based compensation expense excluded from our non-GAAP results, we now have amortization of intangibles and acquisition and integration-related expenses, which are also excluded from our non-GAAP results, which totaled $1.9 million.

  • The non-GAAP effective tax rate of 34% for the third quarter was lower than we anticipated and compares to 28% last year. Non-GAAP net income is $3.4 million for the quarter, a decrease from $4.6 million in the prior year. The increase in the 2014 effective tax rate is primarily due to the expiration of the research and experimentation tax credit in 2013. Non-GAAP earnings per share were $0.11 per share compared to $0.15 per share a year ago. The non-GAAP earnings per share of $0.11 exceeded guidance by $0.03 per share of which $0.02 was achieved through revenue and operating results exceeding expectations and $0.01 related to a decrease in our non-GAAP tax rate.

  • GAAP earnings per share for the quarter were a loss of $0.13 compared to a profit of $0.03 per share a year ago. The earnings per share decrease is primarily the result of acquisition-related expenses, including $1.3 million amortization of intangibles and a $1.8 million increase in non-cash stock-based compensation expense.

  • Now moving to the balance sheet. We ended the third quarter with unrestricted cash and cash equivalents of $40.4 million, an increase of $10.4 million from the end of the second quarter. At quarter end, there was restricted cash on our balance sheet of $2.3 million related to the Cameleon software tender offer. In October, we commenced the second tender for the remaining outstanding shares of Cameleon. We now own or control all of Cameleon's outstanding shares and delisted Cameleon from the Euronext Stock Exchange earlier this week. The cash paid in the fourth quarter to achieve the 100% ownership was $5 million of which $2.3 million was from our restricted cash balance, as of September 30th.

  • Capital spending for the third quarter, which includes infrastructure and facility improvements was $1.3 million. We expect capital spending in 2014 will approximate $8 million. Cash flow from operations for the third quarter was $12.2 million and benefited from a favorable mix of license invoicing in the second quarter and the commencement in the second quarter of an improved collection process.

  • Cash flow provided by operations was $3.1 million for the nine months. Year-to-date, cash flow was impacted principally in the first half of the year by one-time items related to our acquisitions and first half seasonal items. We expect cash flow from operations to be positive for the year.

  • Gross accounts receivable at the end of the quarter was $52.1 million. Day sales outstanding were approximately 107 days, an improvement over prior quarter is primarily from improved collections. Finally, at the end of the quarter head count, including outsourcing was approximately 1,000, which increased approximately 26% from last year. This reflects the addition of SignalDemand and Cameleon and our increased investments in sales, marketing, professional services, engineering and administrative personnel to drive growth.

  • Before providing guidance for the fourth quarter and the year, I would like to provide some additional geographic information related to our business as well as commentary on variability from one period to another that is inherent in our business model.

  • Revenue from the United States was $15.7 million, a decrease of 3% year-over-year and represented 32% of total third quarter revenue in 2014. In Q3, moderately less license revenue was recognized at contract than last year contributing to the decrease, while percentage of completion bookings were strong in the quarter. Overall, the US continues to perform well.

  • Revenue from Europe was $13.8 million, an increase of 83% year-over-year and represented 28% of total revenue in the third quarter as compared to 20% in the prior year. This increase was driven primarily by organic revenues from Europe as we bring the execution back in line with our expectations.

  • Revenue from the rest of the world was $19.1 million and represented 39% of total revenue as compared to 36% last year, an increase by 57% as compared to the prior year. Rest of the world revenue, while predominantly travel is benefiting from an increase in B2B revenue as well.

  • Overall our business continues to be strong driven by increasing need for companies to better leverage their data, to help grow revenue and improve profits. In addition, we are benefiting from the investments we have made to drive awareness and the adoption and expand our solutions to address a larger market opportunity. We are also pleased with our ability to add new customers and expand our solutions across our existing base as well as increase our recurring revenue streams.

  • Now turning to our outlook. For the fourth quarter, we anticipate non-GAAP revenue in the range of $52 million to $55 million, approximately 38% growth at the midpoint from the fourth quarter of 2013. We expect our acquisitions could contribute approximately $8 million and our organic growth to be approximately 19% at the midpoint and better than 20% at the high end of our guidance.

  • We expect total non-GAAP expenses to be approximately $46.5 million up from $32.4 million in the fourth quarter 2013, as we continue to make strategic investments in our business and incur the increased expenses coming from our two acquisitions. We expect non-GAAP operating income margins of approximately 14% at the midpoint of revenue guidance. With an estimated tax rate of approximately 37% in the fourth quarter. We anticipate non-GAAP earnings per share of $0.14 to $0.17 based on an estimated $30.5 million shares outstanding.

  • For the full year, we expect revenue growth of approximately 32% at the midpoint of our revenue range of $190 million to $193 million. As previously guided, we expect our acquisitions to contribute approximately $29 million in revenue for the full year and our full year organic growth to be approximately 13% at the midpoint. Our non-GAAP operating margins for the full year are expected to be between 9% and 10%.

  • Our confidence in the fourth quarter continues due to several factors. First, we have a strong pipeline with good visibility into fourth quarter booking opportunities. Second, from a seasonality perspective, our business is historically stronger in the fourth quarter of each year. Third, we have good visibility in the B2B deals with license revenue recognized at contract signature. We expect this to be our largest quarter of the year for license at contract revenue and also expect this portion of our revenue to have more traditional enterprise sales seasonality associated with it going forward.

  • Finally, we believe the sales improvements we have made together with the expanding leadership focused on sales and partners will have a positive impact going forward. In summary, we are confident that our growth strategies and investments across the business are working and we are pleased with our performance in the first nine months and outlook for the year.

  • With that, let me turn the call back to the operator for questions. Operator?

  • Operator

  • Thank you. (Operator Instructions) Scott Berg, Northland Capital Markets.

  • Scott Berg - Analyst

  • Hey Andres and Charlie congratulations on a very good quarter.

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • Thank you.

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • Thank you.

  • Scott Berg - Analyst

  • First question, housekeeping, Charlie. What was your organic revenue growth rate in the quarter, I missed it?

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • The organic revenue growth rate was 13%.

  • Scott Berg - Analyst

  • Okay. Thank you. And then couple of questions on the guidance. You beaten Q3 on the revenue range for the year you brought the top end of the range down a million obviously [help the] bottom. Currently thinking about how we should view the fourth quarter opportunity relative, it's a minor difference, it's kind of still within the range, but given the outperformance, I guess, I would have expect you to bring the bottom up maybe a little and maintain the top end of the -- range?

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • Yes, Scott. What we wanted -- because we view it -- we view it as there is really no (inaudible) change. They were clearly within the range we discussed all the year and that's why we're pleased with the guidance that we provided. But we want to be prudent and we're taking a very measured approach to our guidance as we do every quarter. And we're very pleased that overall at the midpoint, the revenue growth yield will be 32% and we're also pleased that for the fourth quarter organic revenue is likely going to be greater than 20%. So, we're pleased overall with the composition of the guidance that we're providing and we really think it's a good way to end the year and a good way to start next year.

  • Scott Berg - Analyst

  • No, I'm pleased with the progress, but just trying to understand what the nuance or the differences obviously. And then as I look at operating margins, your prior guidance was for 10% operating margins, the new guidance for the year indicates 9 to 10. I'm sorry, 10 before now 9 to 10 what's different in the -- I guess, the operating expense lines in terms of assumptions for Q4 that looks like you are spending just a little bit more money?

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • Yes, it's partially true. It 's somewhat a little bit more in the expense, but also by bringing down the midpoint modestly that does have an impact on the operating income by about a half a point and that's why we thought (inaudible) at approximately 10%. We thought it was more prudent to guide 9% to 10% and give us little bit more of a range here for Q4 as it contributes for the full year.

  • Scott Berg - Analyst

  • Okay. Fair enough. Then on the execution side, Andres, you really called out Europe, which is performing better and in line with recent commentary. What would you contribute the biggest reason for that. Is it focus -- no changes there and how should we view that business let's say going forward over the next 12 months?

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • Yeah, I would say that obviously bringing Blair and Jake into the business they've made several changes within the organization to improve the scale and performance. We bought in Sebastian as GM in Europe and he and his organization have continued to performing. In the last quarter, I commented that we had seen good performance in the first half. We're continuing to see good performance in the third quarter and we believe they are back on track. And we are very confident in their performance moving forward. But I would say overall we are very confident with the performance of the sales organization, North America and Europe and globally. The changes that we've made, we're starting to see the results.

  • Scott Berg - Analyst

  • Great. Last question from me then I'll jump in the queue is on the partner strategy you called that out as well. I think sales cycles and processes and deals certainly progressing well there. But can you give us any sense on size of deals, geographic nature of deals trying to understand where these partners are having success in bringing deals to you today, which is still a relatively new venture for you guys?

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • Yes. So, we have closed deals globally North America, Europe and the rest of the world with our partner ecosystem. And I would say that the deal size we haven't seen a major change in the ASP on the deals that we've closed through our partner. And so we're very pleased with the progress. We've talked about demand continuing to increase over the last five quarters, but more importantly seen deals go through and us working with partners on implementation. So, I would say still early stages, but it's continuing to improve and that helps us feel stronger about long-term growth in having the partner ecosystem contribute towards that long-term growth.

  • Scott Berg - Analyst

  • Great. Congrats again on a good quarter and I'll jump back in the queue.

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • Great. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Chad Bennett, Craig-Hallum.

  • Chad Bennett - Analyst

  • Hey guys, nice job on the quarter.

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • All right, Chad. Thank you.

  • Chad Bennett - Analyst

  • So, just digging into a couple of things. On -- in Europe specifically can you speak to the organic growth in Europe was it in line or better than the overall organic growth of the business this quarter?

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • Yeah, clearly we're pleased with the European performance. I think, as you can see and that performance was organic driven. So we're pleased with that. And I think overall Europe did well in the quarter. I think as we commented in the call, the US was down a bit for the reasons I mentioned. It was really a mix of business. So Europe, we're very pleased with the performance and the answer is yes. It contributed nicely to the third quarter performance.

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • Right. I would add from a sales execution, North America is performing very well and very strong year-to-date and continues to be our strongest market.

  • Chad Bennett - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • So, we're very pleased with the US and North America sales execution. It's continuing to improve and it's performing very, very strong year-to-date.

  • Chad Bennett - Analyst

  • I guess, the question is more going forward. Do we think Europe is going to be in line with the organic growth of the overall business or still a bit of a drag?

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • I don't believe Europe is going to be a drag at all. I believe Europe is back on track based on the pipeline of opportunities and that we see in the market. We are pretty confident in continuing to be a growth driver for our business in the future.

  • Chad Bennett - Analyst

  • Okay, great. And then into the US growth that you talked about, I don't know if there is a way to do this, Charlie. But if we were to normalize the year-over-year kind of upfront revenue and looked at just kind of a normal bookings year-over-year. Is there a way to look at the growth that way?

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • Yeah, we could and we purposely didn't on this Q3 because we really believe that the fourth quarter bookings that we had last year with a high recurring revenue mix is having less of an impact as we go through the year. And as we said, we're pleased by Q3 organic growth ended up at 13%, which is higher than the 8% we had guided to at the midpoint. So, we think the big part of that mix story is getting behind us.

  • Chad Bennett - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • And into the fourth quarter, you are going to see even stronger growth.

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • Yeah. And then from a sales perspective, I know we commented in the first half the booking outpaced growth. And I would say North America also outpaced the overall growth numbers and continues to be a strong driver from a sales perspective, year-to-date.

  • Chad Bennett - Analyst

  • Okay. All right. And couple of more from me. And then Charlie, can you give us a ballpark in the fourth quarter guide kind of where you think upfront license deals will be as a percentage of revenue?

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • Yeah, I think for the whole year, we're going to be consistent with what we discussed at the end of Q2. We're at top end in the low teens maybe 12% to 13%, it was still there at 12% to 13% for the year. So, it's going to be an uptick in license at contract in Q4. We've expected that all along, but it really hasn't changed our expectations from what we communicated at the end of the second quarter.

  • Chad Bennett - Analyst

  • Okay. Good. And should we think about operating margins any differently going forward considering pretty good operating leverage you're showing in the back half of the year relative to the first half. And if in fact we are seeing more of a shift to upfront licensing, which obviously probably helps margins. Do we think about more operating leverage kind of looking out further?

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • I think at this point, we wouldn't want to be commenting on that. We still haven't finalized our plans for 2015. I think there is some opportunity at the gross margin line perhaps to see some bit of an improvement as the mix continues if it go towards license a contract, but we really don't want to be talking at the operating income line at this point.

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • One thing I should have -- should have also said that Chad, when you asked the question that's slipped my mind is that as far as the license at contract in Q4, there is obviously there is an uptick that's needed, but we're also very pleased with the start that we already have like the Q4 with regard to that.

  • Chad Bennett - Analyst

  • Okay. Last one from me. Your competitor Vendavo has been re-capitalized or as a new majority holder, are there any expectations for any different change in pricing in the market or are you seeing anything early on related to the new ownership there?

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • Yeah. We haven't seen any changes related to the new ownership. And I think, we've been focused on our growth strategy and we feel, what we've been doing is working and materially, we haven't seen any changes at all. We believe we're in a pretty strong competitive position.

  • Chad Bennett - Analyst

  • Okay, great. Nice job again.

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • Thank you.

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Tom Roderick, Stifel Nicolaus.

  • Tom Roderick - Analyst

  • Hi, guys, good afternoon. I wanted to talk a little bit -- I wanted to ask you a little bit about Cameleon particularly with respect to your move to push Cameleon into the US both from a product and sales force angle. How is that coming along? How is the US market responding to the CPQ product line? And at what point should we expect to start seeing some level of contribution in the US from that?

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • Yeah. I would say the market is resonating well especially with our launch of our new Cameleon solution that has integrated price guidance in it and I think that was a huge milestone for us. If you are thinking about the first part of the year, the first year-to-date we've been focused on laying the foundation all of the sales enablement tools, training, integrating the product lines and we've made a lot of progress on that front.

  • We've seen strong interest in the combined solution and we've sold the combined solution already and we expect that to continue to grow going into next year. So, we're very pleased with the progress we've made. Naturally the Cameleon product was not as known in North America prior to the PROS acquisition. Dreamforce was a huge event for us. I think the market knows we're there and start to see the differentiation. We are the only solution that really has intelligent quoting capabilities. And I think it's just a matter of time that we'll see that continuing to contribute more to our business.

  • Tom Roderick - Analyst

  • Great, okay. The US being down 3% year-on-year I know the question was asked earlier regarding the impact of some of the timing of rev rec on term basis, subscription-based deals. What should we think about with respect to the timing for the US to get back to growth and maybe even double-digit growth? And are there any particular verticals you might call out that have room for improvement at this point?

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • Yeah, well, I think as far as, this is Charlie. As far as the growth, we're going to see it in the fourth quarter. We're pleased with the position we have relative to our pipe going into the fourth quarter with respect to all business, but in particular the US business. So, we're looking for an uptick in the revenue in the United States in the fourth quarter. It should be good strong quarter for us. So, on that part a good strong quarter. Andres (technical difficulty).

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • Yeah. And right now, we are really are not seeing any weakness on any industry. We see strength both in the B2B and B2C. And across the B2B, it's continues to be the core industries that we've been strong in. So, really not any area that we see weakness at this point.

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • And I think Andres has mentioned earlier that from a sales perspective the US has been strong this year. So, it really isn't about sales particularly in the third quarter and the third quarter (inaudible) has got the mix of those sales driven more to percentage completion.

  • Tom Roderick - Analyst

  • Great. Okay, guys. Thank you. Nice job.

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • Thank you.

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Greg McDowell, JMP Securities.

  • Greg McDowell - Analyst

  • Great. Thank you so much. It's great to see the acceleration in organic revenue growth. Two quick questions. First on the last earnings call, Andres, you had talked about some implementations pushing to 2015. And I wanted to ask, has anything changed with those particular customers who had pushed their implementations out to next year or perhaps have those been able to -- have you been able to pull those into Q4 perhaps?

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • Yeah, this is Charlie. No, no pull into Q4. No change from the Q2 status. We have said then we thought it was a bit anomalous and really we didn't experience it again in Q3. Just really no change on the status there.

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • Yeah. We expect those to commence next year.

  • Greg McDowell - Analyst

  • Great. Thank you. And then, Charlie maybe this is one for you and maybe this is more of a reminder for me too. But you had mentioned 3% of license being recognized on contract execution. Could you remind us what that's been the last couple of quarters and what you expect that to be moving forward this idea of recognizing revenue on contract execution? Thanks.

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • Sure. Sure. Yeah. Actually the first quarter was approximately about $4 million, the second quarter, a little bit over $5 million, the third quarter was a little over $1 million and the reason for the decrease from Q2 to Q3 as I mentioned was really the mix, the mix of the bookings it really wasn't bookings per se it was the mix of the bookings. We had a higher proportion of bookings on a percentage completion basis in Q3 than we had in the prior two quarters. Q4 will be our highest and reasonably our highest as when we're looking at the pipe, but also seasonally the fourth quarter is always the strongest quarter for us. So, we expect to see a nice uptick in license at contract, as we're going -- as we complete the fourth quarter. As I mentioned before off to a good start. We're pleased with where we are through October with respect to that. And I did mentioned, I do want to talk about this a little bit. At the end of the year, the backlog will not be as relevant as it was say two years ago and three years ago and the backlog revenue would not be as relevant because all of these license and contract deals do not -- are not reflected in year-end backlog. So it's going to be a different composition. I know we talked about this last year the composition of the model change to recurring versus perpetual that's not an issue this year. We're tracking very nicely with respect to our recurring revenue business and it's been relatively consistent quarter-to-quarter that's not going to be a factor. But the factor will be that the license at contract is recognized that contract will not be in year-end backlog.

  • Greg McDowell - Analyst

  • That's helpful. Thank you very much.

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • Thanks.

  • Operator

  • And we'll go next to Ken Talanian JP Morgan.

  • Ken Talanian - Analyst

  • Hi, this is Ken calling in for Sterling Auty. Just a question actually on your cash flow. Looking at the contributions to cash flow from operations it looks like accounts receivable was fairly significant in the quarter. Just wondering if there is, we should expect any changes to your DSOs as you make this change over to subscription.

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • I think at this stage the subscription is still small enough. It's not to have a significant impact on our DSOs. The DSOs came down a bit from Q3 to Q2. They may come down a bit again in the fourth quarter, but I wouldn't think significantly. The benefits to cash flow in Q3, we really led that out, when we had the Q2 call is that one we've made some significant improvements to our overall collection processes. So, we were down in Q2 relative to cash flow from operations. We had a nice recovery in Q3 and we also had a very good mix of contracts that contributed to that. So Q3 was very strong for us. If you were thinking about how is Q4? We think Q4 will be okay. It's not going to be a repeat of Q3 for the reasons I mentioned the collection process changes started in two and really had a big impact on three. And the cash balance for the year looks likely it's going to be down. And the reason is because we have got two events outside of cash flow from operations, one is more CapEx spending, but we're also spending $5 million for the final consolidation of the Cameleon shareholders. We now own 100% of Cameleon. So, if you're thinking about cash at the end of the year it will be down, thinking about cash flow from operations for the year we expect it to be positive. But the big improvement in cash flow took place in Q3 and we should see some good cash flow in Q4, but just good, it's not going to be like Q3. Is that helpful?

  • Ken Talanian - Analyst

  • That is. And from a CapEx perspective, should we think about the additions in 4Q as one-time or is that a new run rate?

  • Charlie Murphy - EVP and CFO

  • I think, as we scale, as we get into next year, we're looking at $8 million this year. We haven't finalized our plans for next year, but it's likely going to be in that range. So, it's up a bit over last year and I think that's to be expected. We'll have some more facility improvements. We continue to invest in our SaaS infrastructure as well as our overall IT infrastructure. So, I don't want to be specific about it next year, but I think that the -- it's certainly in that range. It's going to be in the high single-digits and maybe even low-double digits.

  • Ken Talanian - Analyst

  • Okay, great. Thanks very much.

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • It appears, there are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Andres Reiner for any additional or closing remarks.

  • Andres Reiner - President and CEO

  • Thank you for your participation in today's call and for your support of PROS. We are confident that our growth strategies are working as more companies are turning to PROS to help them outperform in their market. We're in a strong position to capitalize on the large market opportunity and we will continue to invest in our long-term growth strategy. I would like to thank our incredible team worldwide for delivering a great third quarter performance. I'm proud of our people, whose passion for innovation and customer success continues to drive our growth. Thank you to our customers, partners and shareholders. We look forward to speaking with you on our next call. Thank you and good bye.

  • Operator

  • This does conclude today's conference. We thank you for your participation.