Douglas Dynamics Inc (PLOW) 2025 Q3 法說會逐字稿

Good day and welcome to the Douglas Dynamics third quarter 2025 earnings conference call.(Operator Instructions) Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Nathan Elwell , Vice President of Investor relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Welcome everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's call. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that some of the comments that will be made during this conference call, including answers to your questions, will constitute forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks that could cause actual results to be materially different.

Those risks include, among others, matters that we have described in yesterday's press release, and in our filings with the SEC. Please note, in addition to our earnings release, we issued another press release yesterday afternoon regarding the acquisition of Venco Venturo.

We also published a one-page fact sheet on our IR website that summarizes our results for the quarter. Joining me on the call today is Mark Van Genderen, President and CEO; and Sarah Lauber, Executive Vice President, and CFO.

Mark will first discuss the acquisition of Venco Venturo before providing an overview of our performance for the quarter. Then Sarah will review our financial results and guidance. After that, we'll open the call for questions. With that, I'll hand the call over to Mark. Please go ahead.

Thanks, Nathan, and welcome everyone. We had another solid order which Sarah and I will discuss shortly. But I'd like to start by thanking the employees of Douglas Dynamics for their continued focus and resolve. This team truly cares about keeping people safe and communities thriving, especially important as we head into winter.

I'd also like to take a moment to highlight two changes we recently announced regarding our Board of Directors. After 13 years of dedicated service, Margaret Dano decided to retire. We wish her the very best and want to thank her for her many meaningful contributions to Douglas Dynamics over the years.

Always collaborative and thoughtful, her guidance will have a lasting positive impact on Douglas Dynamics for many years to come. Second, we are pleased to welcome Jennifer Ansberry and Bradley M. Nelson as new independent directors. Jennifer is the Executive Vice President, and General Counsel of Lincoln Electric. Her extensive legal, and M&A experience, and deep understanding of the industrial sector will be invaluable as we advance our strategic priorities.

Brad possesses a strong track record, and significant leadership experience in manufacturing from companies such as Oshkosh Corporation to his current role as CEO of MasterCraft Bulk Company. Both Jennifer and Brad bring valuable experience and fresh perspectives that will be essential to support our future progress.

As a result of these changes, our Board has now expanded from seven to eight members, six of whom are independent. Turning to the business, and our announcement we made last night. Over the past several months we've shared with our employees and with you, our shareholders, the optimize, expand, and activate strategic pillars.

On our last quarterly call, I focused mostly on optimize and expand. So as you may have guessed, today I'll talk to Activate, which refers to the restart of our M&A efforts, as we look to build our portfolio of attachments over the long-term. Today, I'm pleased to confirm that [Van Coventuril] has officially joined the Douglas Dynamics family.

Adding this well established and highly respected provider of truck mounted cranes and dump hoists is a meaningful first step as we look to diversify and balance our portfolio over the long-term. Sarah and I returned from Cincinnati last night after an energizing visit with the 70 person team at Venco Venturo.

Brett Collins, Mike Striholt, and the entire group in Ohio have built an exceptional business, and we're extremely proud to become the new stores of the Venco Venturo brand. We're thrilled to welcome Venturo's employees to our team and look forward to learning from their expertise, collaborating closely, and growing this great business with them.

With access to Douglas Dynamics operational capabilities and continuous improvement processes, we believe there's a strong opportunity to build on Venco Venturo's success, driving profitable growth. Now that the deal is complete, the real work begins to fulfill that goal.

Our immigration team has been working diligently to lay out a clear plan to ensure a smooth transition and to start realizing the benefits of this partnership. This marks our first acquisition in more than nine years, and I want to emphasize that our approach to M&A remains disciplined and strategic. Over time, we're committed to building a diversified portfolio of complex attachments that require professional upfitting to work vehicles.

This acquisition represents an excellent first step, and a great example of the types of high-quality brands and businesses that align with our long-term vision. We're excited about the opportunities and look forward to partnering with the Venco Venturo team, and to all that we will accomplish together in the years ahead.

A heartfelt thank you to everyone involved in making this deal happen, including Sarah, Jon Sisulak, and the finance team for leading the charge with the financial analysis and legal review, plus Shannan Vlieger, Chris Bernauer, the work truck attachments team, and the Venco Venturo leadership team for making this a straightforward transition.

Stepping back, I'm pleased to report that eight months into my tenure as CEO, our team is working collaboratively and effectively. This has been clear to me over the past few months as we pursued the Venco Venturo acquisition and with success of our established divisions. Speaking of, let's turn to our current operations.

Needless to say, we are pleased with our results. The improvements this quarter were primarily driven by the excellent performance at work truck solutions, which delivered growth of over 30% and record third quarter results again, and attachments preseason shipments were in line with expectations.

In fact, let's review the segment results starting with work truck attachments. Results improved this quarter mainly due to the timing of preseason orders and ongoing cost control measures. The ratio of preseason shipments was a more typical 60%, 40% between the second and third quarters this year versus the 65-35% split in 2024.

Remember that 2024 was unusual as higher finished goods inventory at the end of Q1 last year drove a stronger shipment mix in Q2. That wasn't the case this year as the attachment team significantly decreased its inventory with it with it currently down $11 million on a year over year basis.

Additionally, based on our recent channel checks, dealer inventories are now back below the five year average after being elevated for quite some time. This is healthy news, and when coupled with positive dealer sentiment and financial health, means we are ready for winter.

Our operations are on the front foot, and we are primed and ready to respond to manned shifts, snowballs, and ice event trends as they occur. We're proud of the way our team has adapted and prevailed over the weather-driven challenges over the past few years.

Assuming we receive a somewhat typical amount of snow and ice events in our core markets this winter, we are well aligned and well positioned for the season to come. Turning to work truck solutions, the teams exceeded expectations and produced record third quarter results yet again.

With both net sales and adjusted EBITDA up over 30%, it's clear the strong demand and higher volumes are also being met with improved efficiencies. Our teams at Henderson and Dejana are really knocking it out of the park. This is even more impressive, now that the costs are much tougher and we're being compared to a record third quarter last year.

Our municipal business continues to grow thanks to the team's continuous improvement work in the recent years, which is now paying off as we'd hoped. When combined with a strong competitive position in a dynamic market, we are in a formidable position today. In our commercial business, after seeing softer order patterns in the local dealer markets in recent quarters, an overall reduction in economic and tariff concerns led to a stronger than expected performance in the third quarter.

We hope these trends continue, but also understand that dealers still have inventory on the ground. And despite interest rates starting to come down, smaller customers are more price conscious and slower to make decisions. The commercial fleet business remains generally positive. Fleet buyers are less influenced by near-term issues, instead managing their business more for the medium term.

So really a fantastic performance in the solution segment. Overall, we're still seeing strong demand from municipal customers and solid demand from commercial customers. Our teams are receiving the chassis and components they need, allowing them to flex their DDMS muscles, driving greater efficiency and deliver improved profitability.

From an operational standpoint, we are executing effectively across the segment, and when you add in our solid backlog solutions is set to have another fantastic year. In summary, this was an excellent order for Douglas Dynamics, characterized by important wins and strong execution.

Work Truck Solutions continues to experience encouraging fleet business, and substantial demand and backlog from municipal customers. Attachments preseason came in as expected, and the team is primed and ready for winter. We have launched our strategic pillars internally, and the teams are building the specific divisional plans aligned with the optimize, expand, and activate strategic pillars.

We are confident in both the direction we are taking and our ability to execute and deliver sustained impact in the years to come. For that, I'd like to pass the call to Sarah.

Thanks, Mark. Before I begin, unless stated otherwise, all the comparisons I'll make today are between the third quarter of 2025 and the third quarter of 2024. Also, please remember the third quarter of 2024 included a one-time gain of $42.3 million from the sale leadack transactions. I want to start by congratulating everyone on their performance this quarter.

With all teams either meeting or exceeding our expectations, this strong work has allowed us to increase our guidance ranges again, which I will get to, but first, let's look at the third quarter. Overall, results were very encouraging. Solutions produced another record quarter with top and bottom line growth of over 30%,, and pre-season shipments were in line with expectations and attachment.

On a consolidated basis, net sales increased 25% to $162.1 million. And gross profit grew 23% to $38.1 million, primarily driven by higher demand plus improved throughput at solutions, and the timing of pre-season shipments and attachments. SG&A expenses were $22.5 million.

The change this quarter, excluding the 2024 sale leaseback transaction costs was driven by higher stock and incentive-based compensation on higher earnings, somewhat offset by lower CEO transition costs. Interest expense decreased 16% to $3.8 million for the quarter due to lower interest on the term loan, and revolver from lower borrowings and a lower interest rate, which was partially offset by floor plan interest on higher chassis inventory.

Adjusted net income and adjusted earnings per share both increased more than 60% for the third quarter to $9.5 million and $0.40 respectively. Adjusted EBITDA increased 31% to $20.1 million, and margins increased 60 basis points to 12.4%. Okay, let's look at the results for the two segments, and attachments to our preseason orders ended in line with our forecasts.

Net sales increased 13% to $68.1 million, and adjusted EBITDA increased 29% to $10.5 million, based on the timing of preseason shipments and ongoing cost control measures. Importantly, the ratio of preseason shipments was a more typical 60/40 split between the second, and third quarter this year versus the more unusual 65-35 split we saw last year.

As Mark already noted, as we look towards winter, the team is primed and ready to respond to a variety of weather conditions, and our operations are as efficient and effective as they've ever been. Turning to solutions, and I don't mind sounding repetitive, when I say that combined our municipal and commercial teams produced record third quarter results again, despite facing tough comparisons to our record setting quarter last year.

Net sales increased 36% to $94 million, which includes approximately $8 million of incremental [chaffy] sales. Adjusted EBITDA increased 34% to $9.6 million, which produced margins of 10.2%, higher than our initial expectations. The strength of the performance stems from strong demand, higher throughput volume, and improved efficiencies following a solid performance across all locations.

With our overall backlog still well above historical norms, the full year outlook remains positive. As the timing of deliveries and business mix shifts from quarter to quarter, our overall results will continue to fluctuate, but we do expect to show annual improvement in solutions for the fourth year in a row.

With the results for the quarter covered, let's look at our balance sheet and liquidity. Total liquidity at quarter end was $70.1 million, and was comprised of $10.6 million in cash, and $59.5 million of borrowing capacity on the revolver, which is more than ample for our needs this year. On a year to day basis, net cash used in operating activities decreased 36% due to improved earnings, which were partially offset by an increase in accounts receivable.

Here today, free cash flow improved 21% to negative $29.3 million. Inventory fell approximately 5% to $138.7 million compared to the same quarter last year. Attachments has done a great job, reducing its inventory over the past year, which was partially offset by a planned increase in chassis components in the solution segment, which are needed to address the robust backlog.

As expected, capital expenditures increased to $8.1 million year-to-date. We now expect total 2025 capX to be at the lower end of our traditional range of 2% to 3% of net sales. We are happy with our current debt levels and the leverage ratio at the end of the quarter was a very manageable 1.9 times.

At this point, we expect to stay close to two times through the end of the year, which is well within our goal range of one and a half to three times. And finally, we paid our quarterly dividend of $29.05 per share at the end of the quarter. Finally, let's review our improved outlook. In short, our year-to-date performance has outperformed our expectations.

The combination of exceptional results of solutions and attachments preseason shipments in line with our forecasts means we have been able to raise our guidance ranges again. We now expect net sales to range from $635 million to $660 million from the previous range of $630 million to $660 million is now predicted to range from $87 million to $102 million versus the previous range of $82 million to $97 million.

And adjusted earnings per share are expected to be in the range of $1.85 per share to $2.25 per share, up from the previous range of $1.65 to $2.15. Finally, the effective tax rate is still expected to be approximately 24% to 25%. The outlook assumes relatively stable economic and supply chain conditions, and that core markets will experience average snowfall in the fourth quarter.

We are being prudent in our assumptions, given the weather we've seen in recent winters and the elongated replacement cycle, which is reflected in our guidance. We believe our inventory and cost control efforts mean we are ready for whatever weather conditions we see later this year, and we are monitoring reorder patterns closely as winter weather begins.

We executed effectively across the company this quarter and are very pleased with our year to day results. We feel well prepared as winter weather approaches, and look to support solutions as they push to close out another excellent year. Finally, I'll just mention a couple of points related to the Venco Venturo acquisition.

The deal is expected to be modestly accreted to earnings and free cash flow in 2026, with minimal impact on the fourth quarter of 2025. We funded the acquisition through our revolver, and we do not expect it to materially change our leverage ratio. We look forward to working with the Venco Venturo team longer-term on operational synergies and profitable growth initiatives.

With that we'd like to open the call for questions operator.

(Operator Instructions)

Greg Burns, Sidoti.

Good morning. Would you be able to share maybe a little bit more detail about the the acquisition, maybe how much revenue (inaudible) was generating, what type of margins and maybe what multiple you paid for the business?

Yeah, Greg, I'll start and then turn it over to Sarah. Maybe I'll start more qualitatively, and she can get into more of the quantitative questions. But you know this is a business that we've been talking to and looking at for the last several years. The owner of the business, Brett Collins, and I have developed a relationship.

And during my time at Douglas, and we realized it was, just a great fit for us, and and with a lot of the discussions that Sarah and I have had over the last several months with our shareholders, and the investment community, and we kind of thought about our strategic pillars, an area of focus was, hey, it's great that you're looking at an additional M&A opportunities, but it's been a while since you've done one, look to find something maybe a little bit on the smaller side, something that fits in, really well strategically with the company, and the list of kind of the boxes that we wanted to check went on and and Bencoo. Really hit every one of those.

So Brent and I started talking in earnest, probably six months ago, and again, he's been fantastic to work with, and his team have, and we could be more excited about it again. The grand team for us may be on the small end of the scale of what we've done historically, but certainly as we kind of said, small, but mighty and small and strong, internally as we look to the future and really get excited about the opportunities there, and the synergies that can be built between our attachment team and between.

We can't get into the specifics on the terms of the deal. I guess what I can say is we've been talking since we've been turning on this activate pillar, we have been talking about focusing on small to medium sized deals, which for us would be $25 million to $75 million call it. I would say this one's on the very low end of that scale.

For 2026, we talk about it being modestly agreed to to earnings per share and free cash flow. I would estimate that their sales are in the $30 million to $40 million range, and currently pre-synergies. Their margins are closer to our solutions business margins, with plenty of opportunities for us to get in there with our DDMS and our sourcing and our operational synergies to work on, margin improvement longer-term.

Okay. Great. thanks for that and then just one more on Venco are -- is Dejana, currently or are they a supplier to Dejana, using them in their upfits, and what kind of opportunities are there for you to leverage the solutions business to maybe increase the demand or the growth for Venco.

Yes, you hit it spot on. This is why I kind of hit all of the boxes that Mark was describing because it is a complex attachment that we do upfit. Dejana is a purchaser of Venco Venturo cranes and hoists. It's certainly an opportunity for us to grow that also in the future for the future upfits of Dejana.

Yeah, as we as we started the integration work and earnest, it's been good to see you know our our sales team down there working with the sales organization at Venco Venturo, and really looking to see, hey, where could this take us in the future and again in upcoming quarters as we really settle in, I'm sure we'll have plenty of updates on on how that's going.

(Operator Instructions)

Timothy Wojs, Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc

Hey everybody, good morning. Maybe just the first question I had, Sarah, I guess, if you could kind of maybe kind of outline maybe what you're expecting, in each segment in the fourth quarter, and I guess more specifically in attachments just given, we haven't really seen like a I guess a normal snowfall in the fourth quarter for a long time.

So, just kind of curious, if you could delve deeper into kind of what you're expecting in the fouth quarter in both segments.

Certainly when you look at our new guidance, and you focus in on the midpoint, I would say for attachments, that would be back to the 23 levels in volume, which is like I said on the call, it's still a conservative approach for us. We are focused on average snowfall, but we are not pinpointing average volumes at this time.

From a margin perspective on attachments, I would say right now our expectation at that volume level would be that would be flattish margins to last year and where we landed last year.

Okay. That's helpful. And then I guess on the solution side, really good growth there, I guess if, kind of how did the [Muni] business perform, kind of relative to the kind of commercial Dejana businesses, in terms of, maybe the pace of revenue growth between the two businesses, and then I guess just given the growth, I thought there might be a little bit more leverage from a margin perspective.

So if you just walk through kind of the the margin expectations and kind of what you saw there in the third and fouth quarter?

Yeah, absolutely. From the perspective of commercial and municipal, both of them had record top-line quarters, so we really did see good growth across both. It wasn't one versus the other. From a margin perspective, both performed very well, which led us to outperforming our expectation in the third quarter.

The leverage, when we look at that quarter to quarter can be a little bit choppy for solutions just the way the truck flow is. So when you think about incremental margins for solutions, you really need to look over a couple quarters, and or a year period. I do expect for the year that solutions will be close to 25% incremental margins, which is pretty much where I pegged them.

(Operator Instructions) This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mark Van Genderen, President and CEO.

Thank you. We appreciate your continued interest in Douglas Dynamics, and we look forward to seeing some of you at the [Baird] conference in Chicago next week.

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.