PLDT Inc (PHI) 2020 Q1 法說會逐字稿

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  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us today to discuss the company's financial and operating results for the first quarter of 2020. Copy of today's presentation is posted on our website. For those who have not been able to do so, you may download a copy of the presentation from www.pldt.com under the Investor Relations section. For today's presentation, we have with us Mr. Manny Pangilinan, Chairman and CEO; Mr. Al Panlilio, Chief Revenue Officer; Ms. Anabelle Lim Chua, Chief Finance Officer; Atty. Ray Espinosa, special assistant to the CEO; as well as members of the PLDT management team.

  • Before we start the presentation, we'd just like to remind everyone that later in the Q&A session, you will have to type in your questions, which we will read out loud. At this point, let me turn the presentation over to Ms. Anabelle Chua to start -- the floor over to Anabelle Chua to start the presentation.

  • Anabelle Lim Chua - Senior VP, CFO & Chief Risk Management Officer

  • Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome today to PLDT's First Quarter 2020 Results Briefing via Microsoft Teams. I hope everybody can see the slides that are being flashed on screen.

  • Let me start by saying that we saw the continued growth momentum from 2019 in the first quarter of 2020 with limited impact from the enhanced community quarantine, or ECQ, which took effect only towards the tail end of the first quarter. Our service revenues rose by 9% to PHP 41.5 billion in the first quarter, a new high in quarterly revenues. This increase was primarily driven by data and broadband services.

  • The Consumer Individual business group once more set the pace for growth, posting PHP 20.2 billion in revenues, 20% up from the first quarter of 2019. PLDT Enterprise generated PHP 10.1 billion in revenues, 3% higher than the previous year, while PLDT Home increased its revenues by 5% to PHP 9.6 billion. The consumer and enterprise business groups combined grew by 11% to generate PHP 39.9 billion of service revenues, 96% of the total. To make up the balance, the international and carrier business group posted PHP 1.6 billion of service revenues, which are 25% lower than prior year.

  • Next slide. With the 9% increase in our service revenues, our EBITDA increased 8% to PHP 21.6 billion in Q1 2020 as the increase in our revenues more than compensate for the increases in our operating expenses. EBITDA margin remained at a healthy 52%.

  • Our first quarter telco core income is PHP 6.9 billion, lower by 5% year-on-year as the rise in EBITDA was offset by higher depreciation and financing costs, resulting from higher capital expenditures, the offshoot of the PLDT group's sustained network rollout program.

  • Next slide. Viewed from the vantage point of the last 3 years, we've seen our service revenues climb each year and at an accelerated rate of growth. Notwithstanding the onset of COVID-19 and the government imposition of the ECQ start in the second half of March, the first quarter 2020 service revenues surpassed our fourth quarter revenues and represented a historic high for the company.

  • Next slide, please. The achievement of such record high of PHP 41.5 billion service revenues in the first quarter was underpinned mainly by the rise in data revenues, which now account for 71% of our revenues versus a 45% contribution back in first quarter of 2017.

  • Moving on to the next slide, please. The 9% revenue growth in the first quarter of 2020 reflects the continued importance of data revenues, which have become the key driver of top line growth, offsetting the impact of declining legacy revenues from voice and SMS. In Q1, data services maintained its upward momentum with a year-on-year growth of 19%. The share of data revenues out of total revenues has risen to 71%. In particular, mobile Internet revenues jumped nearly 40% versus the level a year ago. Mobile data usage continued to be driven by customer demand for video services, social media, mobile games and other services delivered to subscribers through our various GIGA load packages. About 71% of the handsets being used by mobile phone customers today are smartphones. Home broadband posted a 9% increase in revenues with improved installations of fixed and fixed wireless broadband connections. Corporate data is up 2%, and data center revenues are up by 6%.

  • Moving on to the next slide. We show how our EBITDA and telco core income has changed from prior year. Our EBITDA increased 8% or PHP 1.6 billion from PHP 20.1 billion in 2019 to PHP 21.6 billion in the first quarter of 2020 as the increase in our service revenues of PHP 3.5 billion fully absorbed the rise in cash OpEx and subsidies of about PHP 2 billion. EBITDA margin remained at 52%.

  • Looking at the bottom half of the chart. Our first quarter telco core income is lower by PHP 0.3 billion year-on-year because higher depreciation and financing costs resulting from higher CapEx offset the PHP 1.6 billion increase in EBITDA.

  • Next slide, please. When viewed against the quarterly EBITDA results over the last 2 years, our PHP 21.6 billion EBITDA in the first quarter is the highest for a quarter other than the EBITDA in the fourth quarter of last year. It's also higher than the average quarterly EBITDA of PHP 20.8 billion registered last year.

  • Next slide, please. Our telco core income of PHP 6.9 billion, while lower than last year's first quarter earnings, is still ahead of the average quarterly telco core income of PHP 6.8 billion last year. In light of uncertainties surrounding the impact of COVID-19, we have not provided earnings guidance for the year.

  • Next slide. Next slide shows our statutory reported income results. Reported income was PHP 5.9 billion, 12% lower than last year, after taking into account our equity share in the results of Voyager Innovations and the reval losses on our investment in Rocket Internet shares. We're also pleased to note that Voyager has received strong support from its current shareholders to the tune of USD 120 million in new investments that will meet their funding requirements. Current shareholders continue to believe in the prospects of Voyager, particularly with the good traction that's been seen during this period for digital financial services.

  • Now moving on to the next slide, we show some balance sheet metrics. PLDT's net debt as of the end of March amounted to about USD 3.4 billion, while net debt-to-EBITDA stood at 2.03x. The gross debt of the company was USD 4.05 billion, with maturities well spread out and only 6.7% of which were unhedged. Fixed rate loans accounted for 84% of our total debt, and our average interest cost of debt is 4.8%. Of our PHP 46 billion planned borrowings for the year, PHP 30 billion has been signed, and we are currently in final documentation stage for another PHP 10 billion of local-backed long-term loan facilities. We availed the PHP 4 billion of short-term loans in March as during the lockdown period we have allowed an extension of payment periods of the monthly bills of our postpaid subscribers. Unpaid subscriber balances are being amortized over a 6-month period.

  • Next slide, please. Our CapEx in first quarter came in at PHP 19.6 billion. While PLDT's original CapEx guidance for 2020 was PHP 83 billion, we now anticipate that 20% to 25% of our CapEx budget will be deferred due to the impact of the ECQ restrictions on movement and on supply chain. Our network rollout activities have been constrained by the reduced mobility of our network teams since the ECQ was imposed. While the lifting of the restrictions is expected to be a prolonged process, we also expect that the pace for the restarting of our network rollout activities to be drawn out. So we do continue to prioritize projects that uphold our service quality in order to support our customers and the public for their business and social activities under these new conditions.

  • The imposition of ECQ also compelled people at home to turn to Internet and online collaboration tools in order to work and study from home. Our network has held up pretty well with a surge in data traffic of about 20% and the shift of data traffic from offices to homes with the rapid move to work from home. In April 2020, we reallocated 2G assigned frequencies and 1,800 megahertz from 2G to 4G, thus further increasing the mobile data capacity of Smart's network.

  • Now the next slide. We show here some selected highlights of our network. So in the first quarter of 2020, PLDT and Smart continued our efforts to expand and modernize our fixed and mobile network. As of the end of March, PLDT increased the coverage of our fixed network to pass 7.5 million homes, 4% more than what we had at the end of 2019. We have a build capacity of 3.6 million fixed broadband ports available to serve those working or studying at home. In the same period, the total footprint of PLDT's fiber optic network expanded by 5% to about 338,500 kilometers of fiber cables. We also are pleased to note that PLDT had undertaken an upgrade and modernization of our transport network, and we had just completed the first phase of that transformation program in time to serve the increased requirements of data traffic during this period.

  • For Smart, we further enhanced our mobile data coverage by adding about 1,400 new 4G-powered base stations, raising the total to about 26,000. We also added about 700 base stations to get to about 14,400 3G base stations. So together, we are able to serve more than 94% of our country's population with mobile.

  • Next slide, please. We saw Smart's mobile data traffic explode compared to previous periods. Our mobile data payload grows to 634 petabytes in the first quarter of 2020, double the traffic in the first quarter of 2019 and 25% higher than the traffic at the end of last year. We continue to see a surge in traffic, and we expect the demand for data services to remain high with the growing dependence on online and expected more extensive adoption of digital solutions by our customers under the new normal. As traffic grows, our network has remained resilient. The superiority of our network was validated by the latest mobile network experience report released in April by OpenSignal, which found that Smart remains ahead of competition in terms of video experience, upload and download speed experience, voice up experience, games experience and 4G availability.

  • Now at this point, I turn over the presentation to Al Panlilio, our Chief Revenue Officer.

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • (foreign language) Hi, good afternoon. Thank you for being here today, and I hope everybody is keeping safe. Again, just to -- just highlight what Anabelle said, I think we had a very strong performance for the first quarter, albeit there was a weakness in the second -- over the last 2 weeks of March. But I think we ended the first quarter even higher than our highest quarter last year, fourth quarter. So that's pretty good news for us. Again, we're delivering this to -- again, it showed that the company is very resilient, a lot of collaboration done internally to be able to continue to serve our customers, and that has been our focus.

  • So if I may go to the next page, please. So during the first quarter, we continued with our program, creating meaningful connections, and I'll go deep into this in the next few charts, but really making sure that we push on our wireless business being, again, Anabelle said, 77% of our business there on data. Home, we continue to also provide connectivity, obviously, through fiber and fixed wireless. And really, the focus -- and Butch is here in the room with us, focused on enhancing the customer experience by making sure that we're able to install quicker and repair quickly also.

  • Enterprise has been a focus area also for us, pushing fixed line broadband and data and also wireless broadband, which has been a requirement tail end of the first quarter and into April when the lockdown was in place. And again, enterprise offering solutions that are already becoming the next normal, the BCP, business continuity programs, and I think this will be part of every business' way of working now, work-from-home component together with office environment, and we deliver this through automation, obviously.

  • Next page, please. Second quarter, we continued to push this. We pushed dependable connectivity when it really matters most to all our customers. For individual wireless, engaging our subscribers, making sure that we're able to address their needs; focus again more on data services, allowing our people to work from home; and solutions, as I said earlier, that, that is serving workers who are working from home.

  • For Home, despite the -- initially, our main focus was for safety of our employees, of our customers. So we tapered off in our connections early part of the lockdown and really focused just on repairs, outside plant repairs, so that we can improve service. But as we -- I think post-Holy Week, we're able to ramp up on installation and repair. And with proper PPEs and safety protocols, we've been able to improve that as we speak. And obviously, we also offer -- Home offers a lot of programs also to address the stay home requirements.

  • Enterprise being a partner of business, we've launched a #OnewithYou Campaign, making sure that we address all your requirements, providing a new roster of offerings depending on the business that you're in and obviously, enabling virtual sessions like this for our customers as we -- as companies continue to operate through virtual means.

  • Next page, please. So I won't go into detail here, but these are the programs that we had during the COVID. As you are aware, we had our payments extended now up to May 31, and our billing that will come out in June is really your current and a balance of payment that will be divided into 6 equal months so that we don't have a bill shock as far as customers are concerned. We offer a free speed boost; free data boost; discounted products and services; free access to certain government websites; news; and hotlines, DOH, DPWH, even Red Cross and also DepEd. And again, as I said earlier, enhancing and continuing to improve our installation and repair especially now that our field personnel are well equipped to take care of themselves. And also free calls that we offer to our OFWs by a freebie app that's being offered by PLDT Global.

  • Next page, please. So just to run through again, these are the programs: updating and engaging customers through data with our Smart LTE fast network, which is a network that's been considered by third parties as the fastest mobile network in the Philippines. We have a program to upgrade the LTE SIMs and devices so that more customers can -- will be able to use data; and our major push on GIGA and GIGA stories specifically during this period.

  • Quarter 2, please forward. Next page, please. And these are the things we are doing in second quarter for Wireless Individual, a productivity made possible through digital solutions. Online has been a platform that we're focused on in this next new normal. This will be a driver of our business, and we have focused on delivering a good platform in online.

  • Pushing for Smart GIGA Work and GIGA Work+, again work from home. Talk 'N Text is offering a cash-back reward for its Talk 'N Text 20th anniversary, TNT Big Bente.

  • And lastly, again, a lot of demand now. So we are relaunching Smart Bro LTE and LTE-Advanced pocket WiFi, again, to address the connectivity requirements of our customers.

  • For -- next page, please. For Home, this has been -- we started the year right. We're pushing hard on fixed wireless. Of course, our competitive advantage is fiber. We still have a lot of fiber capacity that we can offer our customers. So that will be a main priority, but we'll be able to offer also fixed wireless and, as I said, Smart Bro or pocket WiFi as we drive the market depending on the customer segment that needs our service.

  • Next page, please. Quarter 2, continued to enable everyone from home, shifting -- like wireless shifting online selling and servicing through our online platforms. We have a stay home campaign, where we have fiber speed boost, prepaid WiFi double data and installment payments programs. And we will continue to still enhance our ops operations for the increased demand, and we are trying to fulfill the demands of our customers.

  • Next page, please. For Enterprise, we're trying to make sure that businesses are able to work simply, so productivity made simple. We're offering packages and new products to -- in terms of, I guess, collaborative suites, telecommunication using Meraki and Fibrbiz with Meraki. As I said, we ignited a campaign for SMEs, #OnewithYou, and making sure that we're able to help them grow, especially in this time of pandemic and the use of support of O365 launch that we had in the first quarter.

  • Next page, please. And we will continue to push this, equipping businesses for the new normal. And we are partnering with large, medium and small enterprises across to be able to address their needs and requirements and to help them recover during this pandemic after the lockdown will be enhanced -- lifted or relaxed in the next few weeks. So that's it. Thank you very much.

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • I think I'm the last speaker here. So good afternoon to all of you, and thank you for joining us in this briefing. I only have 3 points to make in terms of conclusion. First is on the full year prospects, we think it is a little early for us to give you a clear view on how the full year core income would pan out. We have indeed run several scenarios internally, but we're finding out there are many variables to deal with in this context and environment, some of which are unknown at this point, such as, for example, the quarantine period, whether it will be extended and to what extent; if it's going to get lifted; the government stimulus package; credit availability from financial institutions; and overall economic conditions. I believe the government has reported out that the first quarter, the economy has -- GDP has contracted by 0.2%. (foreign language) fake news (foreign language)?

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • No. This is the chart that I saw. Yes.

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • So that's where we are in terms of guidance on our telco core. But the second point relates to the revenues. The momentum that we saw in 2019 continues to be carried forward in 2020. First quarter revenues, the aggregate of Home, Wireless and Enterprise grew by 11%, 9% if you include the international business. The second quarter outlook on revenue, we expect the growth rate to soften by low to single-digit growth, (sic -- see slide 25, "low to mid single-digit growth") principally because of the ECQ impact but higher compared to last year. So if you combine the 1Q growth and the 2Q revenue projections, the first half revenues will be ahead of last year.

  • The CapEx, we are -- we're expecting the CapEx spend to be down by 20% to 25% of the PHP 83 billion we disclosed late last year or early this year. So it will be down to about PHP 60-plus billion range. That is not a matter of choice for us. It just reflects the current conditions, where there are supply chain difficulties from abroad in terms of the shipment of the relevant equipment that we're importing and supply chain conditions or difficulties locally as well and, of course, the ability of our -- of the labor force -- of our labor force to install repairs in the relevant barangays.

  • On dividend payout, we're maintaining a policy of 60% of telco core. That's, of course, subject to no significant changes -- average changes in the economy or in the financial position of the company moving forward, which we don't see actually. So just about it.

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • Okay.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • We're now ready to take your questions.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • (Operator Instructions) So the first question would like to clarify how much is the decrease from the planned PHP 83 billion CapEx in 2020 and which business segment is affected by the decrease in CapEx and why.

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Did you understand the question?

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • On CapEx decline -- bringing down the CapEx was in -- what areas will the decline be in CapEx?

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Joachim, you want to...

  • Anabelle Lim Chua - Senior VP, CFO & Chief Risk Management Officer

  • Maybe he can get this one.

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Go ahead.

  • Joachim Horn - Chief Technology & Information Advisor

  • Yes. Okay. So good afternoon. As MVP said, the CapEx decline is about 20%, and that is mainly driven by our inability to spend. It's not a choice. The normal business with like rollout, connecting our customers will not be as much impacted by the CapEx spend as much as it is impacted currently by the inability to access certain locations which are restricted at the moment because of ECQ and the general quarantine. So the delay will not be felt so much this year as it probably will be felt next year, but it gives us also a substantial time to catch up in the second half of this year. So it will be -- it is too early to say what exactly which business will be impacted. From the current perspective, I personally believe that the business as usual will be able to continue with only a slight impact. Maybe some of the new projects, 5G, for example, will see a few months of delay because of the delay of being able to spend.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • The second question is can we get some insights on current subscriber behavior. What kind of plans are consumers subscribing?

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • The view on subscriber base. What kind of plans are subscribers picking up?

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • Okay.

  • Anabelle Lim Chua - Senior VP, CFO & Chief Risk Management Officer

  • Well, insights on behavior.

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • Yes. For -- well, for mobile, it's really our GIGA offers that are picking up, and I think 50% to 55% of our top-ups are now coming from the GIGA traffic. Jane is also on the line, so she can also add. For Home, it's fiber and fixed wireless that are growing. Both are growing and, obviously, connectivity at home. Butch is here also.

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes. If I can share for Home, the biggest product that exploded postlockdown was really fixed wireless, and it was good that we were able to start launching our fixed wireless product towards the end of the year. So we were able to somehow capitalize on that demand and that explosion. On the fiber, definitely, our programs and our plans at the 1,299, 1,500 level is also gaining a lot of traction. But what we are foreseeing is that in post-COVID, now that we have been able to do a speed boost, where our subscribers at 1,299 are able to feel the impact of a 25 Mbps minimum speed, we feel that with the new normal, they are going to require this kind of speed as well and not be content with the original speed of about 10 Mbps. So for Home, these are the plans and products that are actually gaining a lot of traction. We hope to launch postpaid fixed wireless very soon. So we feel that will be another product that is going to hit the market and have strong demand.

  • Jane J. Basas - Senior VP & Head of Consumer Wireless Business

  • So if I may for Individual, we actually did experience some initial challenges in terms of usage during the early parts of the ECQ, right, given the mobility issues and maybe cash liquidity issues. But we've actually managed to address some of those challenges. And therefore, from a lower top-up -- our top-up for the month of April actually went down 70%. But this May, we're actually seeing that it's going to be back at levels that we had observed in the first quarter of 2020. In fact, the top-up performance most likely will be higher than YAGO. So this is really driven by customers using more data products. And our data products are actually priced higher than our legacy products. And there's -- we've observed that they're actually buying higher denominations of 200 and above. So these are higher denominations with longer validity. So the focus really is to ensure that we create more data products that address the needs of customers.

  • So even if we had observed lower activity because some customers had no access to load, on an average basis, for those [less transacting], they're actually paying more and buying more.

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • But if I may just add to that on wireless, especially on top-ups. I think we had a very strong first quarter in top-ups. And as we went into the second half of March, that slowed down significantly, obviously, because of what Jane is saying. And -- but post-Easter, so Easter Monday up to this day, the volume has picked up again and it's the level -- at the level of the first 2.5 months of this year.

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Pre-COVID.

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • Pre-COVID. So it's been a good take-up again lately, and I think there are more big tailers now that have 0 balances and are able to sell. It's really more of a supply issue rather than demand. The demand is there.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • Okay. The next question. Do you have any idea how much PLDT spent on the virus, donations, supports for the community? And how much was expensed in the first quarter? And how much more do you expect in the second quarter?

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Well, we do have -- if I could speak to that. We do have an idea of how much PLDT has so far spent, and not only of course PLDT, but the other group companies, Meralco, the tollways, Maynilad and so forth. But we don't -- as a matter of policy, we don't publicize that. We're just there. I think there's one particular Governor who called and say, "We're in need of food. Can you supply us rice, et cetera, et cetera?" I said, yes, of course, we'll do that. So it's across the board. Our hospitals, we are participating actively, for example, in testing because the government wants to ramp up to up to 30,000 tests a day for our hospitals. And the groups are participating in acquiring test kits and in upgrading the laboratories of our hospitals located in the hotspots, and we intend to mobilize mobile laboratories in order to supplement the capacities of our laboratories to -- for testing. So I don't know what else do we -- quarantine facilities, we've equipped them with water, power, telcos and whatever else the government (inaudible) and access because of the tollways. So I'd rather not give you a number. We're there. I think we -- in every tragedy that has struck this country, I think we're proud to say that we're there. You will see the Meralco linemen, repair people and trucks and equipment being sent to areas, typhoon areas, for example, typhoon-affected areas, even if they're outside our franchise like the (foreign language)...

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • Actually, Batanes and Leyte.

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Batanes and Leyte, right? So we just -- we don't -- we have an idea of the cost, but I think it's sufficient to say that we're there.

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • Yes.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • Okay. Here's the next question. With regards to fixed installations, how much of the installation team is out versus pre-COVID levels?

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Jorn, do you want to take that?

  • Joachim Horn - Chief Technology & Information Advisor

  • Yes. Yes. I can take that. So we are probably at 60% to 70% on a daily basis, and that's because of the COVID rules we have implemented to protect our customers and also our teams down. But what we did was we moved to a 7-day shift. So we have every day people going out for 5 days a week, and then the teams change. So we have 1/3 typically doing back-office work and 2/3 are out. Together with our suppliers, which help us on the ground in serving our customers, they are also at the moment at about 60% to 70% of the capacity before ECQ, and it's going up every week. We're almost back in terms of total install capacity to where we have been before ECQ. The main constraint we have today is that there are a pretty high number of locations who do not allow us access despite of the IATF IDs we have and special letters from DICT who want to encourage the barangays to give us access. But we cannot go everywhere, so we are not able to repair everywhere and to serve every customer need. Otherwise, I think our capacity is coming back. And I think by end of this month, we will be back to normal rollout capacities.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • The next question, can we get clarification on the guidance of low mid-single-digit quarter-on-quarter [contraction]? How is this split between fixed and mobile? And what assumptions are being brought in? I'm wondering what's driving the material difference in guidance between yourself and your competitors.

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Who wants to take that difficult question?

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • Well, I think all 3 segments, as MVP mentioned, will show growth vis-à-vis 2019. And I think it's been really a collaborative effort across the company to make that happen in terms of -- even during the lockdown. I mean it wasn't only in the CRO team. The network was there. The legal was there to get our IATF cards so we were able to get out there as soon as possible. Of course, finance helped out, legal, regulatory. I mean everybody just chipped in. And really, the focus for us is really just to serve the customer. We really just focus on what we can do and best we can, and that's serving our customer. So hopefully, with that and the past decisions on a very good network, the investments that has been made in the past 2 years is benefiting us today. Even though there's a surge of about 20% to 25% in traffic across the board, both Home and obviously Wireless, our customer experience remains to be very good. And we just have to continue that and continue to serve our customers. Enterprise, for sure, our customers are challenged, and we will continue to hold hands with them and help them pick up where they left off. And we will just continue to serve whatever solutions, connectivity requirements that they need.

  • For example, BPO, during the start of the lockdown, they were forced to work from home, and there were massive requirements on work-from-home devices. And that's why about 40,000 to 50,000 of the fixed wireless solutions from home have to be transferred to the requirements of enterprise because there was a demand. So again, there's a major push on fiber. We still have a lot of ports we can sell. That is still our competitive advantage right now. Fiber, I think, is still a more solid service, a dedicated service to you and guaranteed speeds that we can offer you vis-à-vis fixed wireless. But we are offering both. And a third offering we have is the pocket WiFis. So it's just really focusing on what we can do best for our customers, and that's just -- our main objective is to serve the customers.

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes. And maybe just a comment on competition. So of course, we do compare our performance with their performance on a periodic basis because that's a reference point. And whilst it is an important consideration for us, I reminded our management team that the standards we should set for ourselves are related to the potential of the -- our business, right? So if we have a superior network now and we think there's latent demand still for the wireless side, the home side and the enterprise side, we should push the business to the standards we're setting for ourselves. So that, for me, is the main criteria by which we should plan, especially at this inflection point, where, whether by choice or not, behavior and practices are pivoting towards the digital side of things. So -- and that should give us opportunities, opportunities that have emerged for the group to really take advantage of the potential that lies ahead for us.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • There's a similar question here. It seems like more resilient with regard to the ECQ than the competitor, especially on the mobile side. In fact, there were higher mobile data subscribers quarter-on-quarter and good growth in overall data stack. Some loss in ARPU but not significant. Do you think there is some element of market share gains in the second quarter numbers? Other factors behind the relative stability in mobile spend in particular?

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • Jane, do you want to pick that up?

  • Jane J. Basas - Senior VP & Head of Consumer Wireless Business

  • Yes. We've actually seen significant growth in our data users. On a year-on-year basis, we gained around close to 5 million fresh data users, and there's a lot more in our base that are still on legacy or basic call and text. So we're actually quite confident that our usage for data and, therefore, our revenues for data will grow in the coming months. And certainly, we've gained some shares on revenues from competition. I think for the period, the growth in the industry for mobile, in particular, was largely due to our performance in Smart.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • The next question is for our outlook for Enterprise. Are we seeing customers scaling down operations?

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • (inaudible) ask the questions?

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • Yes. It's the message.

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • The message. They're not online?

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • No. There's a chat. There's a chat. This live event does not allow...

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • (inaudible)

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • Because it's not live event.

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Okay. Anyway. So to the question.

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • Sorry, Melissa, can you say it again?

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • What's the question again? We were distracted.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • What's outlook on Enterprise? Are you seeing customers scaling down operations?

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • Well, yes, I'll ask Jovy also to chime in. But just to answer that quickly, I think, of course, there are customers that are impacted by it and rethinking also how they progress postlockdown. But there are also opportunities, as I said. For example, BPOs, there are opportunities where work-from-home solutions are provided for. And there's a major requirement. And this becomes really part of the new way of working. It's not anymore just a BCP, a business continuity program, but it really becomes a way of working moving forward, the combination of office environment with work from home. So there are opportunities in that space. But we're here to obviously help out our challenged customers, enterprise customers, where they've been impacted by this pandemic. Jovy, you might want to add a little bit more.

  • Juan Victor I. Hernandez - Senior VP & Head of Enterprise Business

  • Yes. Thank you, Al. So yes, the complexion of the Enterprise segment today is kind of mixed. So there are a lot of -- especially the small and medium enterprises, who have really been impacted. And predominantly, businesses have just shut down. Now that being said, we are seeing pockets of excellence in some industries. I mean, like BPO, as Al alluded to, in the first 2 weeks of the lockdown, were all scrambling, but we have seen a resurgence. In fact, the latent demand that we have on connectivity is quite high, and a lot of discussions are now happening on a per industry basis for us to be able to prepare for a post-COVID scenario. So rather than taking a look at this situation from a pessimistic angle, the Enterprise group of PLDT remains positive and then -- and we're very focused now in terms of how we can help, particularly industries, on how they are going to do business moving forward.

  • Now the capabilities of the group spans across not only connectivity but also now on the ePLDT side. When you take a look at IT systems that are very important in a post-COVID scenario, I think businesses were just not that prepared for a pandemic. Now a lot of the companies now are preparing for post-COVID scenarios wherein they will be more prepared. So we're looking at a surge in our data center revenue. Cybersecurity is a hot topic now. Even our hospitals now are being attacked by hackers even in this time of pandemic. So there's a lot of activities that are ongoing, and we think that there is going to be...

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Different kind of virus.

  • Juan Victor I. Hernandez - Senior VP & Head of Enterprise Business

  • A different kind of virus, yes. So if we have frontliners, the doctors and the hospitals out there, in our data centers, we also have our own frontliners, but they're inside the data center, making sure that all of the systems are up and running 24/7.

  • So again, to recap, a lot of people can take a pessimistic view of the enterprise side. But we feel that with all of the activities and all of the discussions that we're having with industries, we look very positive in terms of the outlook for the second quarter and also for the second half of the year.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • The next question is on refarming. Just curious on which bands are currently being refarmed and which bands right now are actually being used for LTE. How much digital capacity in percentage can that provide assuming refarming targets are met?

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Jorn?

  • Joachim Horn - Chief Technology & Information Advisor

  • Yes. I'm here. Okay. So what we have been doing -- this is already completed 2 weeks ago. We have been taken 5 megahertz of 1,800 megahertz spectrum, which we are currently using both for 2G and for 4G. We have taken 5 megahertz from 2G and moved it to 4G. That we did on almost 4,000 sites in the Philippines. And depending on how much spectrum was being used before by LTE on those sites, the capacity increase can be between 5% and 15%, 20%. Currently, we are using 700 megahertz, 850, 1,800, 2,100, 2,300 and 2,600 for LTE. So there's a broad variety.

  • The whole process took only 10 days. It could be done completely remotely because of the modern base stations. Everything was software-defined and people can do it remotely, even the optimization afterwards. No quality impact for GSM. So our GSM customers have the same level of service as before. And what we did in addition was also to -- on some 100 sites, like 150, 180 sites, we use actually spectrum dedicated for 5G that's 2,600 and moved it to LTE. There, the capacity increase is massive because this is massive MIMO technology, and we could gain 30% to 50% on those sites. And we have done this, in particular, on those sites which have experienced a lot of traffic. Do you think that answers the question?

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • Okay. The next question is about 0 balance retailers. How prohibitive are the logistical constraints to address the supply side bottlenecks? Is there a way of digitizing the process of replenishing credits of dealers?

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • Yes. I guess Alex might be on the line also. He can be -- I mean if you talk about frontliners, being the doctors and also the installers and network guys of PLDT and Smart, the sales guys also are frontliners. They've had to really put their lives at risk also just to reach out to retailers. As you know, there are about 1.2 million of them. And at some point, there were a lot of 0 balance retailers. That was the initial -- no, no. The lockdown's really difficult for us to move around. But yes, in times like this, there are also opportunities. In this case, really, online has come into play, and we're really looking at that. I mean Alex can expound a bit more, but we are also helping our RDs come up with their online platforms. And I think our online websites have been very active. The volume has started to pick up, both from Wireless and Home. So definitely, technology will only improve this moving forward. And from an analog point of view, a way of working to more in digital.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • Here's the next question. Can you resume your network rollout during GCQ?

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Network rollout in GCQ, general quarantine.

  • Joachim Horn - Chief Technology & Information Advisor

  • So yes. We are -- actually, we never really stopped. There was just the first week where it almost came to a still stand, mainly because of lack of protective equipment for our people. But since that supply is guaranteed, we had -- in March, the rollout went down by 65%. So we had only 1/3 of the original capacity. In April, we were back at about 60%, and I think it will continue to improve in May so that our rollout, and this is mainly related to mobile network, will be back on track probably in 1 or 2 months from now completely. But we are still able to expand the substantial amount of sites. Those who are most challenged, if we can access them, we do expand. And on fixed, I mentioned that before. We are almost back on track in terms of rollout of fiber to the home. So -- insofar, the answer is clearly, yes, we can as far as we get the permission to install. And that's a major constraint now going forward.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • The next question is on Voyager. Can you share guidance on how big the profits and losses -- profits or losses we can expect from Voyager?

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Is Doy on the line?

  • Anabelle Lim Chua - Senior VP, CFO & Chief Risk Management Officer

  • Yes. Both Doy and S.B. are on the line.

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Okay.

  • Shailesh Baidwan - President

  • This is S.B. So for us in Voyager, when we look at the 3 lines of business, the wallet, the merchant enterprise and the remittance network, the Smart Padala, all 3 businesses are showing strong growth even in the current COVID period. We are seeing pockets of some stress, especially with our travel merchants. But across the wallet, we are seeing more than doubling versus last year. Across merchant acceptance, we are seeing strong growth even in e-commerce and, of course, in areas like pharmacies and supermarkets. And then on the Smart Padala network, the domestic remittance has been very strong because that's been the lifeline for a lot of people to send money and receive money from cities to provinces and the likes of that. So we have an investment plan to grow aggressively in 2020, but we are realizing efficiencies on our growth side. So at this stage, our plan is to hold our losses to the same level as 2019 while delivering significant growth and realizing efficiencies from the growth at this stage across all the businesses.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • The next question is on bad debt provision levels trending into the second quarter. Given PLDT's larger exposure to contract revenues given the sizable fixed line component, do you see material rise in defaults? In some other markets, we see this balloon to up to 2x even before the impact of the quarantine.

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Anabelle?

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • Anabelle?

  • Anabelle Lim Chua - Senior VP, CFO & Chief Risk Management Officer

  • Yes. Let me answer that. During this period, of course, we have suspended what we call treatment and disconnections at this point in time, and we have given payment relief and extended payment terms effectively for our customers. So as Al mentioned earlier, what we have decided to do as a pragmatic matter is to allow the unpaid balances to be amortized over a 6-month period. So clearly, the assessment will be done in terms of the appropriate levels of provisioning depending on what we see in terms of collection rates in the next few months. It will hinge largely on how, I guess, the economic performance will be, how people are able to come back and pay. So that's something that we will have to assess in the second quarter and in the third quarter going forward depending on our experience when things come back.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • There's a question on how the ECQ affected daily operating expenses. And if yes, how much has daily expense burn increased?

  • Anabelle Lim Chua - Senior VP, CFO & Chief Risk Management Officer

  • I think there are pluses and minuses. So for example, as mentioned earlier, we have had to put certain facilities in what we call a lockdown mode. So we have asked people to stay in. We have asked -- we have provided for food and other provisions for those who are in lockdown facilities. So in that sense, there's extra spend for those. But there are other areas where we are able to see reduced, let's say, overtime, reduced utilities used in some of our offices, reduced on-ground selling activities. So all told, I guess, there are things that are up and things that are down. So I think part of the internal management is really to really keep a tight watch on our OpEx during this period.

  • I think one of the things just really to highlight in the first quarter numbers, we did advance the 13th month pay for our people. So typically, that 13th month is paid in the last quarter of the year. So you typically would accrue the expenses over the year. But because of the advancing of that 13th month pay, then from a timing standpoint, that all got booked in the first quarter.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • The next question. I'll weave 2 questions together. One is asking about color and how the consumer behavior and competition was in the ECQ. Any meaningful change in consumer behavior? And then is there any shift in behavior on the mobile side and the outlook on how consumers will adjust going into the second and third quarters of the year?

  • Alfredo S. Panlilio - Executive VP & Chief Revenue Officer

  • Jane, you might answer the mobile.

  • Jane J. Basas - Senior VP & Head of Consumer Wireless Business

  • Yes. So as I actually said earlier, we're seeing higher top-up bucket sizes among our consumers. They're essentially buying higher-denomination data packages. Our basket prices actually increased on a Q-on-Q basis, at least April comparing it to the first quarter of 2020, by around 10%, right? So people are buying higher top-ups. People are buying longer-validity loads. And the decrease actually was observed among those from the low-value segment, and I think this is really largely because of cash issues on top of the retailer 0 load challenges that we had experienced in the early parts of the ECQ. Once the ECQ is lifted, because now they're more exposed to the more sophisticated data packages that we have, we do expect that, that behavior will continue and they will be using more of our GIGA packages, GIGA videos, GIGA stories, GIGA games. And we just recently introduced GIGA Work actually. So those are higher-priced versus our legacy call and text offers.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • Okay. The last question we have is with respect to the current dividend policy. I think this was mentioned by MVP earlier. Will the 60% payout be sustained?

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • What's the question, Melissa? Where does...

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • Will our dividend policy be sustained?

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Well, that's -- well, the policy stays. We're sustaining the policy as we speak. There's been no thinking about changing it. Now of course, I don't know whether things will get -- could get worse in the course of this thing, this pandemic. But so far, the company is doing well, so I don't see a basis for changing the -- that policy.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • Yes. There are no more questions on the queue. So if there are no further questions, we just want to inform everyone that the podcast of this briefing will be available on our website after the call. We turn the floor back to Mr. Pangilinan for his closing remarks.

  • Manuel Velez Pangilinan - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Well, thank you to everybody for joining us in this briefing. I think the next public event of PLDT is the Annual Shareholders' Meeting on June 9. And we like -- I hope we could -- right now, it's -- we've gotten Board approval to do it online. I hope we could do it not online. So anyway, so we hope to see you on the 9th of June. And in the meantime, stay safe. Stay healthy. Thank you. Thank you to everybody.

  • Melissa V. Vergel de Dios - First VP & Head of IR

  • That concludes today's briefing. As always, should you have any further questions, please reach out to PLDT Investor Relations. Thank you for your participation.