Precision Drilling Corporation(Calgary) (PDS) 2025 Q4 法說會逐字稿

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to Precision Drilling's fourth-quarter and year-end conference call.

I will now pass the call over to Lavonne Zdunich, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Good day and thank you all for joining Precision Drilling's fourth-quarter and year-end conference call and webcast. Today, I'm joined by Carey Ford, our President and CEO; and Dustin Honing, the CFO.

Please note that some comments today will refer to non-IFRS financial measures and include forward-looking statements, which are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties. For more information on financial measures, forward-looking statements and risk factors, please refer to our news release and other regulatory filings available on SEDAR and EDGAR.

Before I pass the call over to Carey and Dustin, I would like to recap how we delivered on our 2025 strategic priorities. First, we enhanced our shareholder returns by reducing debt $101 million, ending the year with a net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio of 1.2 times. And we also repurchased $76 million of our shares, meeting the midpoint of our guidance of allocating between 35% and 45% of our free cash flow to share buybacks.

During the year, we maximized our free cash flow by delivering resilient drilling margins in both Canada and the US even though average industry activity declined. And finally, we grew revenue organically by increasing our Canadian market share and increasing our US rig utilization from a low of 27 in February to a high of 40 in the fall and exited the year with 38 active rigs.

Today, Precision is the second most active driller in North America. With that, I will turn it over to Dustin Honing.

Great. Thank you, Lavonne. Good morning, good afternoon. Precision's 2025 financial results demonstrate our long-standing commitment towards delivering on our strategic priorities and further strengthening the competitive positioning of the business.

Last year, we continued to generate strong free cash flow, allowing Precision to meet our shareholder return commitments while significantly reinvesting into our rig assets and Alpha digital technologies. As we enter the final stages of our long-term deleveraging journey, the business is positioned with immense financial flexibility and a platform to maximize value for our shareholders.

Moving on to fourth-quarter results, we recorded adjusted EBITDA of $126 million, which equates to $132 million before share-based compensation expense. This compares to prior-year EBITDA of $121 million, $136 million before share-based compensation expense.

During the quarter, we reported a net loss of $42 million, which includes a non-cash charge of $67 million related to decommissioning of drilling rigs, and another non-cash charge of $17 million related to drill pipe. Without these one-time expenses, net income would have been positive $42 million compared to $15 million in the fourth quarter of 2024.

In Canada, drilling activity averaged 66 active rigs, an increase of one rig from Q4 '24. Our reported Q4 daily operating margins were $14,132 a day, compared to $14,559 a day in the fourth quarter of '24, falling within our prior guidance range. During the fourth quarter, precision incurred reactivation costs associated with the two Super Triples that were mobilized to Canada from the US back in September. Both rigs began operations in Q4 and will be fully operational throughout 2026 and beyond, backed by long-term contracts.

In the US, we averaged 37 active rigs, a slight increase sequentially from Q3 and an increase of 3 rigs from prior year Q4. Our daily operating margins for the quarter were USD8,754 compared to USD8,700 per day sequentially in the third quarter, also falling within our prior guidance range.

During 2025, despite declining industry activity levels, we increased our US rig count throughout the year. This momentum is a result of leveraging our upgrades and digital offering to deliver strong field performance for our customers, coupled with our favorable positioning in US natural gas markets.

Internationally, Precision averaged seven active rigs, down from eight rigs prior year Q4. International day rates averaged USD53,505 a day, an increase of 8% from prior year Q4. This was due to prior year non-billable days from rig recertifications.

In our C&P segment, adjusted EBITDA was $17 million, which compares to $16 million from prior-year Q4. Increased well servicing demand in Canada more than offset the impacts of winding down our US operations back in the second quarter of 2025. During the year, our strong presence in Canada's unconventional natural gas and heavy oil markets, combined with our unique natural gas exposure in the US, provided us the ability to capitalize on rig upgrade opportunities, underpinned by firm customer contract commitments.

For the full-year 2025, capital expenditures were $263 million, comprised of $156 million for sustaining and infrastructure, and $107 million for upgrades. These investments were made alongside our shareholder return commitments, reducing debt by $101 million, allocating $76 million toward share buybacks, and increasing our year-end cash balance to $86 million, which is up $12 million from prior year.

Moving on to forward guidance, which I will begin with our expectations for the first quarter of 2026, in Canada, all of our 32 Super Triples and 47 Super Singles have been active in the winter drilling season. We also have several tele-doubles operating, allowing us to reach a peak rig count of 87 rigs operating in Q1.

For the full quarter, we expect average active rig counts to exceed the 74 average rigs from prior year Q1. Our operating margins in Canada are expected to range between $14,000 and $15,000 a day.

In the US, we've sustained the momentum we've built over the last three quarters. For Q1, we expect our average active rig count to be in line with the 37 active rigs from prior quarter with encouraging customer conversations for additional deployments. For the first quarter, we expect our operating margins to remain firm, ranging between USD8,000 and USD9,000 a day.

Internationally, we expect to run seven rigs. However, operating margins will be lower than prior year due to one Kuwait rate coming down, offset by one reactivated rig in Saudi Arabia. In Q1, we expect to incur USD2 million of one-time charges with this reactivation. Our C&P business continues to generate strong free cash flow, driven by our well servicing and surface rental business lines. For Q1, we expect EBITDA to slightly exceed prior year levels.

Moving to forward guidance for the full year of 2026, capital expenditures are budgeted to be $245 million, comprised of $182 million for sustaining and infrastructure and $63 million for upgrades. Note that our sustaining and infrastructure budget includes long lead components a portion of which, which will be allocated to upgrade projects as they materialize, plus a bulk purchase for drill pipe, which will be utilized in late 2026 and into 2027.

Depreciation is expected to be $305 million, and cash interest expense from debt is expected to be approximately $45 million. Our effective tax rate is expected to be approximately 25% to 30%, with cash taxes remaining low in 2026.

For 2026, we expect SG&A to stay flat at approximately $95 million before share-based compensation expense. Share-based compensation guidance for the year is expected to range between $25 million and $45 million, assuming a share price range of [$100 to $140]. Please note that this is a preliminary estimate, and we will provide updated guidance on our Q1 call following the settlement of PAS grants and the issuance of new grants later this quarter.

Our long-term target to achieve net debt to adjusted EBITDA of less than 1 times remains firmly in place as is our plan to increase our free cash flow allocated directly to shareholders, up to 50%. We entered 2026 with a net debt-to-EBITDA ratio of 1.2 times with an average cost of debt of 6.6%, and we have over $445 million in total liquidity.

With that, I'll pass it over to Carey.

Thank you, Dustin, and good morning and good afternoon. As Dustin and Lavonne mentioned, Precision Drilling had a successful 2025, reflecting industry trends with differentiated activity levels and financial outperformance in a flat to declining North American market. Certainly, there is plenty for the Precision team to be proud of about 2025.

As our recent performance has been well covered in previous disclosures and on this conference call, I would like to spend time talking about our 2026 priorities and why Precision Drilling is positioned for continued differentiated performance in the year ahead. Our 2026 priorities may sound familiar to listeners because they are consistent with those of prior years: with a focus on generating free cash flow, delivering financial returns to our investors, and providing high-performance services to our customers.

Financial discipline has been important for strengthening Precision's balance sheet, reducing share count, and building trust with our investors through our decade-long track record of delivering on commitments. This part is ingrained into Precision Strategy and will continue this year.

Our first strategic priority is to drive revenue growth and deepen our customer relationships. And it is listed first because this focus area will be how Precision differentiates itself this year. Our platform provides multiple avenues to achieve this priority. First, I'll discuss our options to grow revenue in the current market.

Precision is uniquely positioned to capture demand across North America's diverse basins, each with distinct demand drivers and equipment requirements. What remains constant across every basin is the increasing complexity of well designs and our customers' relentless demand for footage per day performance.

Starting in Canada, our heavy oil regions require long horizontals and complex wellbore geometries, including wine rack, feather, and fishbone designs. And we're meeting that demand with 17, soon-to-be 19, pad-capable Super Singles. In the Montney, we continue to invest in the hardware and digital capabilities of our 32 Super Triple rigs to drive consistent industry-leading performance.

Turning to the US, in the Permian, we're executing extended breach U-turn wells in the Haynesville drilling deep, high-pressure wells requiring a 1 million-pound hook load and in the Marcellus delivering smaller footprint rigs with extended reach horizontal drilling capabilities. The takeaway is clear, no matter the basin or the challenge, Precision has the fleet the technology and the expertise to deliver well after well.

Second, I'll follow up the discussion on revenue growth with the objective of deepening customer relationships through performance conversations and presenting new ways to create longer-term value. We do this through field service delivery and our standardized and fully scaled Alpha and Clarity digital platforms to optimize drilling planning and execution, provide real-time insights, enhance customer communication and implement performance improvement plans.

We also deliver upgraded rig solutions executed internally and delivered quickly to meet our customers' specific needs. Additionally, we have been introducing creative commercial arrangements to incorporate equipment upgrades, digital technology additions and performance contracts. Many of these initiatives are underway, and we plan for more in the future.

Absolute market share gains are one positive outcome of our strategy, but perhaps more importantly, among Precision's 130 drilling rigs active globally, 25 customers are running multiple precision rigs, and we want this number to grow. My final point on our first strategic priority is that many of these revenue growth and customer relationship initiatives are capital light, enabled by Precision's vertically integrated operations, cross-border capabilities and a consistent modular Super Series rig design, dynamics that allow for a faster, more economic upgrade plan.

We view our upgrade capabilities as a competitive advantage and expect contracted upgrades to continue in 2026 for customers across several North American regions. All three of our priorities and 2026 are important for the Precision team with financial discipline and returns focus, underpinning operational and growth decisions.

I would now like to make a few comments about Precision's core geographies, starting with Canada, where our Q1 peak activity of 87 rigs surpassed last year's peak by four rigs. The medium to long-term outlook for the Canadian market is solid, with supportive commodity prices, increased LNG and crude takeaway capacity and resilient demand for Super Series rigs. As a reminder, short-term activity throughout the year can be affected by weather and commodity price volatility.

The US industry outlook for rig activity is generally flat, but we are finding pockets of opportunity for performance differentiation and expect to continue to capture modest growth in a flat market. Our customers are focused on executing the development plans in the most efficient way possible and are not reacting to weekly changes in oil and gas prices. The gas basins have been the main drivers of growth over the past year, but we are having several encouraging performance conversations with Permian customers as we look to expand our presence in that key oil region.

In the Middle East, our seven active drilling rigs are delivering excellent results for our customers, and we are actively pursuing opportunities to reactivate idle rigs with financial returns driving all potential capital deployment decisions. Also, we are exploring options for more capital efficient means to develop scale including technology differentiation.

To that point, we are installing our first Alpha system on an active precision rig in the region. And we are laying the foundation for longer-term capital-light international growth in the Western Hemisphere. During the fourth quarter, we entered an MOU with an established drilling contractor in Argentina, under which Precision has the option to provide idle Super Series rigs, digital technology and operational support while our partner will operate the rig and the customer will have a direct leasing arrangement with Precision.

We are excited about the potential to expand our presence in a growing region, focusing on Precision's performance offering. We are in the process of deploying our first alpha automation system on one of our partners' drilling rigs in the country to demonstrate Alpha's performance advantages to potential customers. We currently have no near-term rig deployment plans, and we'll update the market as opportunities develop.

I'll wrap up the business discussion with an update on Precision's Completion and Production Services division, where we delivered a 6% increase in service hours in 2025. Rising operating costs in the division continued to be a concern, but the team has addressed these costs with operating efficiencies and focused execution. Precision Well Services remains the premier service provider in Western Canada with industry-leading crews and safety performance and has proven its ability to meet evolving customer needs, resulting in resilient customer relationships.

Once again, I would like to thank the Precision crews, field leadership and all Precision employees for their commitment to safety, customer service and dedication to precision.

With that, I will hand the call back to the operator for questions.

(Operator Instructions) Derek Podhaizer, Piper Sandler.

Maybe just starting off with Kuwait and the rig that was you mobilized over there. I was hoping to get a little more color and context around what happened there. It's great that you're with a backfill as far as reactivating the Saudi rate.

And then separately, you also talked about potential reactivations of idle rigs in the region. Can you maybe help refresh us on how many rigs you have idle there and would be candidates to return to work? And where could you are active rig count, which is at seven now go to. So just a little more color on Kuwait and then just pull up intention upside to your seven active rig count today?

Sure, Derek. So we have six rigs in the Kuwait market, four are active and are on long-term contracts for the next couple of years. We do have two idle rigs. One of them just finished its last 6-year contract and we didn't demobilize it, we just racked it in country, and we'll be looking for opportunities to deploy that in the region, either in Kuwait or another country. And there will be opportunities to tender that rig, we think, later this year. So we are looking to reactivate that rig.

We do have another idle rig in Kuwait that we're -- it's in the same situation. It's a modern rig. We deployed it in I think, 2017, and we would expect to have opportunities to deploy that rig as well. In Saudi Arabia, we have two active rigs, one of them just went back to work. It was a suspended rig that have been well publicized in the market. And that one just went back to work last week, and we'll be running on a multiple year contract.

So we have two rigs there and then one rig idle in the region. So first priority for Precision is to reactivate idle rigs in the region, and we think that's a near-term near to medium-term opportunity. And I think more medium and long term, we'll be looking for new avenues for growth in the region.

Yes. And, Derek, just to clarify, like the two will be up to three in Saudi after this reactivation is complete.

Right. Right. That's super helpful. switching over to the US, obviously, an encouraging guide as far as steady rig count with some potential for the upside. Could you maybe help us understand that potential upside comment that you guys made.

Is this again, more gas associated rigs like in the Haynesville or Permian, you talked about getting in with maybe some of these performance-based contracts, just maybe a little more help as far as what the upside there and also public versus private?

Yes. I think the answer is all of the above. We're having active rig addition conversations with customers in the Marcellus in the Haynesville and the Permian. And I think that we're looking at modest growth opportunities.

But all of the discussions are driven by performance and efficiency where we think we can outperform several of the rigs that are operating in today. Probably I should have said, we are having conversations with customers in the Rockies as well.

Keith MacKey, RBC Capital Markets.

Can we just maybe start on the US margin guide for Q1 and USD8,000 to USD9,000 per day. Pretty consistent guide with what you did in Q4, although there was a significant amount of reactivation costs that came through in Q4. So can you just break down some of the pieces for us in terms of the Q1 guide and what we should be expecting for reactivation or changes in day rates or changes in your core OpEx?

Keith, it's Dustin here. I'll start. I'll let Carey jump in. But I would say it's kind of a mixed bag because we're seeing different pricing trends in each one of our operating segments and the lower [48]. We've seen some encouraging pricing play with a lot of the upgraders we staged into the natural gas markets, so that will be the Marcellus and Haynesville, a little bit more competitive in the oil-based markets.

But we've been able to leverage our Alpha technologies as an a la carte charge to help support our margins. And then the benefit of fixed cost absorption certainly helps as we've been increasing our activity in the US market. So from what we see, it's very short-term disability. Contracts are quite short term in nature in the US market, a little bit longer in gas, but overall, shorter than Canada. But from what we see, we feel comfortable with that guidance range for the hold firm.

I don't have anything to add there, Dustin's good answer.

Got it. Just anything on reactivation costs we should be expecting for Q1 in the US.

I would expect to see a fairly similar trend, Keith. It's not perfectly linear but this is just a reality of the constant churn that we see in the US market. but we've been able to absorb those quite well. And I would say you probably want to expect something similar going forward.

Got it. Okay. And just turning to the MOU in Argentina. Just maybe give us a little bit more comments on that. How did this opportunity come about? And what ultimately do you hope to achieve from executing this MOU in terms of financial performance or further international expansion, et cetera?

Sure. So I would say that this was announced in the industry press in the fourth quarter. So it's been out there. I would say that we've looked at Argentina from -- as a really interesting market on both the resource that's there and the growth opportunities. And we've been trying to figure out the way that we can get to the market, have a differentiated offering and reduce some of the challenges and risks associated with that market.

We understand that a lot of parts of the market are improving for the better for Western countries or North American countries to go into that region. But we still want to find a solution where we can offer performance and technology, but derisk some of the complexities of doing business in the market. So we think that this is a really good opportunity for us to explore, and that's all that we have right now is an MOU to go to the market in a way that we have an established partner at San Antonio drilling.

They have a long-standing relationship and very good customer relationships in the long-established reputation and very good customer relationships in the region, and we want to partner with them with our rig technology and digital technology to win work. It's hard to say at this point how big of an opportunity this is going to be, but I'll stress that we don't have anything to announce right now.

I think that the first rig deployment, if it moved at Lightspeed would be late this year, maybe early next year, and I think we're probably talking about one to three rigs over the next couple of years. It's not going to be a fast-moving program for us.

Aaron MacNeil, TD Securities.

Carey, you mentioned the strength of the longer-term Canadian outlook, and I'm sure you don't want to get into anything too specific on a customer-by-customer basis, but with their Q4 results, Arc recently removed Atache Phase 2 from its five-year plan and withdrew its broader Atache guidance.

So just curious to see if you've had, if you've seen any direct impact of this yet, if you're expecting it? In the future, how you're thinking about this in the context of overall basin demand for super triples or any other color that that you could provide.

Yeah, so I certainly won't speak to any particular customers' plans, and your precision. I think we work for 8 of the top 10 most active customers in the Canadian market, so we do see quite a bit. You did hear my comments that we had 87 rigs running in the winter drilling season or it peaked in January at 87 rigs, which is up from last year. We've had all of our super triples and all of our Super Singles active during this winter drilling season.

So certainly, we haven't seen any change in demand in the short-term.

We've been as active as we've ever been, at least in the last decade. And then longer-term, I think our point is that takeaway capacity for both oil and gas is strong. We also have deep resources, deep inventory resources for almost all of our customer base. So I think, despite an individual customer with a specific change in plans, we have not seen a broad change in demand from our customers.

Okay, fair enough. And then maybe to build on Keith's question on the direct leasing opportunity in Argentina, what would a contract look like. In terms of daily margin, what -- who is responsible for the mob and DMB? Like how does that, like all sort of the nuts and bolts of all of that work?

Yes, so I won't get into all the specific details. But yes, the mode and DMB would be contemplated in the contract, and economic, consideration will be given for that, but think about it as two revenue streams for Precision. One from our partner for what we provide on operational support, and one from the customer on a direct leasing payment for the rig itself.

And I think that that's the crux of the contract and why the opportunity is attractive for us if we're able to secure re recontract or two with the customer down there over the next few years.

Tim Monachello, ATB Cormac Capital Markets.

Good to see the capital allocation guidance pushing higher on the share repurchases. So I want to start there. You're getting to the tail end of your deleveraging target. And I'm curious what you think your allocations are going to look like once you hit that target?

I think we're stretching to give annual allocations for share repurchases. And we like the model. We get feedback from investors all the time that they like the way that we're allocating capital to both debt and equity. And we've been consistent that as we reduce our absolute debt levels, we will increase our direct allocations to shareholders. And that's a broad bucket. It could be share buybacks. It could be dividends at some point.

But we'd like to continue that. And based on the current market, based on where valuations have been, we're comfortable of continuing that. Now a year from now, we might be in a different market. And so I can't really comment on what form that would take. And I think that the key thing for investors to remember about Precision is we are generating significant cash flow in just about any market, and we will continue to use that cash flow to deliver returns for investors.

Okay. And then on the rig upgrade capital, $63 million earmarked for 2026, how much of that has a home currently? And can you speak to which markets you're seeing opportunities for rig upgrades and -- and I guess a follow-on to that would be, how do you think that will impact your contracted status, particularly in the US.

Yes. So I'll comment about the capital plan. So remember, our capital plan is always activity driven, and that is definitely the case for maintenance, and it is the case for upgrades as well. Upgrades are demand-driven. It's where we have customer requests and customers willing to enter into contracts. I would say that only a portion of that has been fully committed, and I don't know if it's 15% or 20% or 30% has been fully committed.

The rest is what we expect based on conversations with customers. So that could go up and down. The other part of the capital plan that Dustin covered a bit in his opening comments is that the maintenance and infrastructure portion of our capital spend contains long lead items that may either be used in maintenance, may be pushed into 2027.

Or if we get upgrade contracts, you can think about the absolute total dollar amount of capital expenditures not necessarily going up, but the shift from maintenance to upgrade may change with more capital going to upgrades as we go throughout the year. So that's one comment. Did you have anything?

I would just add, Tim, if you're asking them just regionally, where we're seeing the upgrade opportunities. It's really a similar allocation that we commented in Q3. So in Canada, it's the deeper extended reach drilling programs in natural gas, specifically the Montney.

And then we're seeing continued demand for pad super single upgrades with our heavy oil customers. significantly improving the agility of those rates and converting those rigs from 250 days a year to an asset that might work 325 days. So we really like those upgrades. In the US, continued momentum with upgrade opportunities in the Marcellus and Haynesville and to Carey's comments earlier, we're seeing increased opportunities playing out in the Permian.

That's helpful. I guess in Q1, which is anticipated to be, I guess, the peak of the oil blood -- and you guys are talking about sort of stable rig activity and opportunities in the Permian and in gas basins in the US. Do you think that when you look through the back half of '26, you continue to think that the rig count in the US is stable, or do you think you're going to start to see that move higher?

Yes. I think when we comment about flat activity, there's -- it's kind of a combination of what we hear and what we read from the experts and then in the shorter term, what we're hearing from customers. And I think our view from customers is shorter than back half of this year. I think it's -- we've got some customers that are looking a year or two out, but the broad market is still largely six months out.

Okay. And then last one for me. Just on the Argentina opportunity, would that be served with rigs in your fleet that would assume be upgraded from the US? Or would that be assuming probably not a new build. So the right way to think of it?

No. And that's one of the reasons why it's attractive to us. It wouldn't be new builds. We still have some idle Super Triple rigs in the US market, and some of them would have minor upgrades before they were deployed and some would require a bit more capital, but all of those capital investments and mobilization would be contemplated in the economics of any contract that we pursued.

John Daniel, Daniel Energy Partners.

You mentioned potentially modest growth expectation in the US market, and you cited four basins. I'm curious, is that growth -- is that precision adding rigs that are being displace you're displacing others? Or do you actually see your customers in those four patients looking to add incremental activity?

I would say at least half our displacements and I'll probably hear on more of those being displacements than customer rig ads.

Got it. And then as we continue to see more and more consolidation within your customer base, how is that influencing your appetite to potentially participate or prosecute more consolidation within your businesses?

Yes, I would say we've been pretty consistent. We don't look at any of the targets as strategic. So there's not one that we think we have to have to make Precision Drilling a better and more competitive company. There are some decent targets out there, and it's just a matter of whether it works on a strictly financial basis where we pay something below our multiple and get synergies and we can integrate well within our fleet, so Possible, but not strategic priority number one.

Fair enough. And the final one is just housekeeping. How many -- in the budget for '26 -- if you said this, I apologize, I missed it, but how many rig upgrades does that contemplate?

I would say it's -- right now, I mean, it can move around a lot. Think about it as a big bucket of capital and sometimes it might be a high (inaudible) rig, and that's an upgrade and that's not a huge dollar amount or it might be created a 2,000 horsepower here per Super Triple rig, which could be $6 million, $7 million, $8 million. So I would say, as we sit here today, think about it as 10 upgrades, plus or minus a few.

(Operator Instructions) Josef Schachter, Schachter.

Still two questions. Going through the decommissioning of the drilling rigs on the $67 million charge -- can you talk -- is there a certain class of rigs that you were an age of rigs that you do commissioned? And then in the balance sheet under assets held for sale, you don't even have anything there either for scrap value. Can you give me some background on all of that?

Yes. So we did a deep dive on really analyzing the forward trends in the industry and what's really evolved in these more complex drilling programs. It's really starting to surface and take hold, I'd say, over the last one or two years where rigs drilling programs are becoming more complex, higher strain on equipment. There's just a specific capacity that you need, so when we look deep into our fleet and scrutinize the capabilities, it just was clear that we had a few that were falling not competitive, and we had that review late in the year and booked the appropriate charge.

Yes, in terms of the assets held for sale, there's going to be two things that we do with those rigs. One will be strip the rigs from any -- with any parts that we might be able to use in our fleet. So there will be some of that. And the rest, we would scrap, but we wouldn't necessarily have a held for sale item on our financials because we don't have a timeline on that.

Okay. Next one, going to the drill pipe of $70 million. What's going on in pricing? Because you mentioned you're going to be buying quite a bit in Q4. How big of a swing are you seeing in these numbers in terms of the timing of when it's appropriate and attractive for you to add more drill pipe?

Yes. I would say that when we pursue drill pipe purchases, and we've done this throughout the history of our company. Usually, there are times in the market where a supplier will have extra drill pipe, they'll need to have a home for production schedule, and we're able to capitalize with some liquidity and planning to where we can take advantage of a discount.

And don't think about this as being a 40% or 50% discount. But on large dollar amounts, it can be meaningful, and it makes us act a little bit quicker than we would have otherwise.

And the $17 million happened for any specific reason?

Similar to our rigs, we made an adjustment on useful life for drill pipe and similar command as well as have become more complex, harder on equipment. We've noticed that our drill pipe life spends have been shortened up. And then we did have some that were disposed as well at a loss.

And I would just say that this is not a precision dynamic. This is an industry dynamic in both the Canadian market and the US market. Tropics just wearing out a whole lot faster than it used to, and we need to adjust our accounting treatment to account for that.

I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Lavonne.

Thank you, everyone, for joining today. If you have any further questions, you can call me or contact me through email. Thank you.

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's presentation. You may now disconnect, and have a wonderful day.