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  • Operator

  • Good day ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing bye, and welcome to the PCTEL First Quarter 2009 Conference Call. At this time all participants are in listen-only mode. Later we will open up the call for your questions. Instructions for queuing up will be provided at that time. As a reminder, the conference call is being recorded for replay purposes.

  • I will now turn the call over to Jack Seller, Director of Marketing.

  • Jack Seller - Director of Marketing

  • Thank you for joining us today, April 30, 2009, for the PCTEL financial results conference call for the first quarter 2009. On today's call will be Marty Singer, Chairman and CEO, and John Schoen, Chief Financial Officer.

  • Today's call will contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Comments concerning our future financial performance, new products and product development, and expectations regarding the future growth of our wireless RF business are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor.

  • Actual results may differ materially from these projected as a result of risks and uncertainties, including the ability to successfully grow our Wireless Products business, implement new technologies and obtain protection for the related IP. Additional discussion of these and other factors affecting the Company's business and prospects is contained in our periodic SEC filings. These statements are made only as of today and we disclaim any obligation to update information to reflect subsequent events.

  • I would now like to turn the conference call over to Marty Singer.

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • Thank you, Jack, and good afternoon. For those of you who have not had a chance to read our press release, I'd like to recap some of the non-GAAP highlights from the quarter on a continuing-operations-basis. We achieved revenue of $14.1 million, our non-GAAP gross profit margin was 48%, our non-GAAP operating margin was 3%, non-GAAP net income was $451,000 or $0.03 per diluted share and our cash and investments were $77 million.

  • I'd also like to add that in January PCTEL made another strategic acquisition, we acquired Wi-Sys Communications, a Canadian-based company specializing in GPS antenna and receiver technology. We're well aware that we already discussed that with you in our last call.

  • Now I'd like to turn the call over to John Schoen, our CFO, who will discuss our financial performance in some detail. Later I will comment on our progress over the past quarter and what we see in the future.

  • John Schoen - CFO

  • Thank you, Marty, and good afternoon or evening to everyone. Our investors will note that the Company presents non-GAAP financial information in its earnings releases.

  • The Company believes that presentation of operating profit and net income, excluding restructuring charges, non-cash based expense including stocks and stock-option-based compensation, amortization and impairment of intangible assets and goodwill related to the Company's acquisitions, gains or losses on the sale of product lines and non-cash-based income tax expense provide meaningful supplemental information to both management and investors.

  • The non-GAAP financial analysis reflects the Company's core results and facilitates comparisons across reporting periods. For more information on our non-GAAP financial results and reconciliation to GAAP measures, please refer to our earnings release that has been filed under Form 8-K with the SEC. The release can also be found on our website at www.pctel.com under Investor Relations. My discussion of results will be based on our non-GAAP financial results.

  • Also, as a reminder, the Company sold its Mobility Solutions software group, or MSG, to Smith Micro in January 2008. The Company's financial statements have been revised to reflect MSG as a discontinued operation. My discussion of financial results will address continuing operations.

  • Let's turn to revenue. First quarter 2009 revenue from continuing ops was $14.1 million compared to $18.3 million in the first quarter of 2008, a decrease of 23%. Revenue was lower for both scanning receivers and antenna products.

  • Scanning receiver revenue was lower on reduced carrier capital expenditure levels worldwide. Antenna revenue was lower in both the distribution and OEM channels, reflecting particular softness in land mobile radio and defense related antenna sales. The Wi-Sys acquisition that Marty mentioned earlier contributed $450,000 of revenue in the quarter.

  • Let's turn to gross profit. Despite lower revenues, non-GAAP gross profit margin from continuing ops for the first quarter was 48%, unchanged from the same period last year. The first quarter 2009 contained a higher mix of scanning receiver revenue than the first quarter last year. The higher scanning margin percent, relative to antennas, offset the cost of lower overall volume over fixed costs.

  • Now let's turn to operating expenses. First quarter non-GAAP R&D and SG&A from continuing ops was $6.6 million. That's down $100,000 from the same quarter last year. R&D expense was higher by $500,000 on engineering investments in scanning receivers and antennas, as well as the acquisition of Wi-Sys.

  • SG&A is $600,000 lower through the closure of several unproductive sales offices and the restructuring of our antenna manufacturer's representative sales channel. The Conexant royalty of $200,000 was unchanged from last year.

  • Let's review, then, our non-GAAP operating income. Non-GAAP operating income from continuing operations in the first quarter was $386,000 or 3% of revenue, compared to $2.4 million or 13% of revenue in the same period last year. The results reflect lower gross profit dollars on lower revenue.

  • The non-GAAP operating income impact of the Wi-Sys acquisition in the quarter was nominal, due to integration costs. The integration is expected to be completed in the second quarter with $50,000 to $100,000 per quarter accretive effect starting in the third quarter.

  • While not a part of non-GAAP operating income, I would like to give some background on the Company's $1.3 million goodwill impairment charge incurred in the first quarter. This represents all of the Company's remaining goodwill, including $384,000 related to the licensing segment and $922,000 just acquired with Wi-Sys.

  • This impairment was caused by the accounting rules governing goodwill impairment as it relates to the total Company's current market capitalization versus the book value of our assets. It is not reflective of management's long term projected discounted cash flow of the underlying company operations.

  • Now let's turn to other income. Other income was $165,000 compared to $784,000 a year ago. There are two factors contributing to the significant decline. Last year in Q1 we had $41 million more in cash and investments, primarily from the sale of MSG. The cash was utilized over the last twelve months for a one-time dividend, the stock buy-back program and the acquisition of Wi-Sys. The second factor for the decline is the overall decline in interest rates since last year.

  • With regard to income taxes, the non-GAAP income tax rate in the quarter was 18%.

  • Now let's take a look at the summary of non-GAAP earnings. Non-GAAP net income from continuing ops for the first quarter 2009 was $451,000 or $0.03 per diluted share, compared to non-GAAP net income of $2.7 million or $0.13 per diluted share last year. To summarize the differences, net income from continuing ops was lower from decreased gross profit dollars on lower revenue and lower interest income.

  • Now let's turn to the balance sheet. Cash and investments ended the quarter at approximately $77 million, of which $14 million is classified as long term. This is a sequential decrease of $1 million from the end of last year. The Company spent $2 million in the quarter on the acquisition of Wi-Sys and generated $1 million of cash and investments from all other sources.

  • Of the roughly $77 million in cash and investments on hand at the end of first quarter, the Company had approximately $1 million in operating bank accounts; $35 million in AAA money market funds, which are in turn invested 100% in short term US Federal Government Agency securities or bank repurchase agreements collateralized by the same; $35 million in tax exempt pre-refunded municipal notes; and $6 million in the Columbia Strategic Cash Portfolio Fund, an enhanced cash money market fund. As a reminder, the Columbia fund is in the process of liquidation.

  • Now let's turn to the discussion of guidance for the second quarter 2009. Marty will discuss this as well in his prepared remarks. We anticipate revenue for the second quarter to be in a range of $13.5 million to $14.5 million. The Company is seeing order booking rates in April consistent with that experienced in the quarter just ended.

  • Non-GAAP gross profit percent for the second quarter is expected to be in a range of 47% to 48% or about the same as the first quarter.

  • Non-GAAP R&D and SG&A from continuing ops are expected to be between $6.5 million and $6.7 million for the second quarter or about the same as the first quarter. We expect that R&D will be about $150,000 higher from additional investments and SG&A will be about $150,000 lower, due to seasonally high trade show costs incurred in the first quarter each year.

  • The Conexant royalty is expected to be $200,000, unchanged from the first quarter. As a reminder, the Conexant royalty agreement becomes fully paid up at the end of the second quarter 2009.

  • Other income is expected to range between $100,000 and $200,000 in the second quarter before any potential mark-to-market losses from our investment in the Columbia fund. The quarter to date mark-to-market change on our Columbia investment is immaterial.

  • The non-GAAP effective income tax rate is expected to remain unchanged in the second quarter at 18%. The diluted share count in the second quarter is expected to be about the same as the first quarter at 17.7 million shares before any potential stock buy-backs.

  • That concludes the financial review. I would like to turn the call over to Marty for his summary comments.

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • Thank you, John. I am pleased to state that PCTEL remained profitable during this challenging economic environment by reducing costs and adding key customers and products. This is a key short-term objective while still investing in R&D and acquisitions to build for the future.

  • PCTEL continues to invest heavily in R&D. We will continue to invest the money saved through SG&A cost containment into our new product development efforts. The combination of our cost control and the development of new products for 2010 and 2011 will position PCTEL to take full advantage of the economic recovery.

  • In the meantime, our goal is to keep the Company's non-GAAP net income break-even point at the current level of a little below $14 million a quarter in revenue. As indicated in John's guidance for Q2, we have already taken the cost containment actions required to fund the additional R&D spending for the next quarter.

  • Additionally, our integration of Wi-Sys will be complete in the second quarter, which will fund additional R&D spending beyond the second quarter levels indicated. Our story, however, is not confined to fiscal responsibility and the careful allocation of our resources. We are committed to aggressive development of leading-edge products and a renewed focus on business development.

  • I am pleased to report to our shareholders and the analysts who follow us that this past quarter has been one of strong accomplishment and that we anticipate continued progress throughout the year. Let me review our progress in delivering upon our product roadmap commitments and meeting industry needs with innovative antenna products and scanning receivers for the cellular industry.

  • As many of us noticed, this year both CTIA and 3GSMA were dominated by LTE-related announcements, and it is clear that this new standard will be a major driving force in the wireless industry in the coming years. As we announced in Barcelona, we were the first to market with a fully featured scanning receiver for LTE, leveraging the high performance SeeGull EX platform to support initial trials and deployments.

  • LTE is an OFDM-based technology that requires very high levels of processing. Hence, our EX platform is particularly well suited to provide unparalleled support for this new standard. As it is widely known, Verizon is one of the major operators aggressively deploying LTE. Recently, PCTEL also launched its new very high performance of the CDMA/EVDO version of the SeeGull EX.

  • We were equally active on the antenna side of our business. We had strong traffic and interest at the International Wireless Communications Exposition, also known as the IWCE show, and announced our next-generation Medallion GPS antenna.

  • This new product is multi-band and combines GPS with cellular, WiMAX and WiFi capabilities. There are many applications for the Medallion. For example, a bus utilizing the GPS element for navigation might transmit and receive data over a WiFi network when pulling into a terminal. This capability will be deployed widely in public safety applications that involve communication between emergency response vehicles and dispatchers. The antenna covers most GSM frequencies and the Medallion will address a global market.

  • We also announced our new WiMAX sector panel antennas for industrial and commercial use. These wideband antennas operate between 2.3 and 2.7 gigahertz. The new antennas have high gain with null fill capability that provides optimized extended coverage for broadband access, SCADA and telemetry applications.

  • These Base Station Sector antennas are ideal for use in suburban, rural and remote areas. Some of the industrial applications include remote monitoring and control of oil and gas installations, smart metering and smart grid deployments by electric utilities.

  • We have had a strong quarter in business development activities, independent of the recession-related downturn in orders. Just last week we were informed that Emerson has included us in their Strategic Supply Summit on the basis of our strong quality, customer service and technology. We secured our first major order for GPS Timing Antennas with Alcatel Lucent in China and successfully qualified our parabolic antennas for a nationwide project in Australia.

  • With respect to existing customers, we secured five new SKUs with Cisco as part of their WiFi/WiMAX program. And we received approval from Motorola for a major expansion program related to their MOTO-TRBO Mobile product line. We anticipate supplying eight new mobile antennas to Motorola beginning later this year.

  • In the Scanning Receiver business we continue to develop new channels for direct and indirect distribution. Our recently released CDMA/EVDO and LTE products are already integrated by our key OEM partners. For example, you may have seen our joint press release with Anite, a major provider of cellular test and measurement equipment.

  • Parts of Asia appear to be coping with the economic downturn better than most other regions. We are actively working with a number of potential new OEM partners and distributors in that part of the world and leveraging existing ones in order to participate in that growth.

  • With respect to acquisitions, we have been talking with a variety of companies in both the antenna and network engineering space. Despite the deflated values, it is somewhat difficult to complete acquisitions in the current environment. Everyone is convinced that their assets are undervalued and that they will benefit from waiting.

  • From our perspective, it is important to be extremely cautious and avoid over-paying for acquisitions. Having said that, we believe that there are a number of attractive opportunities and we will update you as soon as we have any progress to report.

  • The global economic and telecom growth outlook remains uncertain. Accordingly, we have adjusted to this challenging environment by focusing on cost reduction, business development, accretive acquisitions and new product development.

  • As I mentioned earlier, we will continue to balance our operating expenses with revenue expectations. Our balance sheet remains very strong and we will have opportunities to effectively deploy our cash. If we continue to execute against our plan, PCTEL will be well positioned to take full advantage of the economic recovery.

  • We have set aside 30 minutes for your questions. Operator, if you would like to begin.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, please press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. Again, that is star one to ask a question. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from Matt Robison.

  • Matt Robison - Analyst

  • First a little housekeeping, what was the CapEx in the quarter?

  • John Schoen - CFO

  • CapEx in the quarter was a whopping $150,000.

  • Matt Robison - Analyst

  • Okay. Marty, what's happened with the antenna channel inventories? And how do you see things developing with the TEMS legacy and the RFS business?

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • Okay, you've asked two questions there, let me respond to both of them. As I mentioned, Matt, at that Wedbush Morgan conference that you hosted and had us participate in, we have been seeing a sharp decline in inventories at our distributors. As a result, we thought we'd start to see a stronger up tick in April, we have not seen that yet.

  • However, those inventory levels are getting down to two to four weeks worth of product. And most of these distributors like to be at much higher levels so they can satisfy customer demands for rapid delivery.

  • We believe that we'll start to see the benefit of this no later than the third quarter as these distributors replenish their inventory. But they, like everyone else, is attempting to horde cash and get greater return on their investments. And it's just something that we're going to have arm muscle through over the next eight weeks or so.

  • But we do see this going in a direction and we're convinced that we haven't lost share. And it's just a matter of seeing the distributors willing to invest more cash in their inventory.

  • You mentioned TEMS, I believe, Matt, in one of your notes before. For those of you who are on the call and aren't thoroughly familiar with this issue, as we've described before, RFS has a highly leveraged sales model.

  • We, as a neutral supplier of scanning receiver technology, sell our scanning receivers into the test equipment that's provided by Swiss Call, by Nemo, which is owned by Anite and, of course, TEMS, which was, until very recently, owned by Ericsson. Ericsson and Ascom announced that Ascom would be acquiring the TEMS unit. And Ascom has a homegrown scanning receiver that is has by virtue of its earlier acquisition of Comarco.

  • We believe that we're going to be able to continue to compete for the combination of Ascom TEMS business. We do not see a disruption in the near term. And our focus is to simply provide a scanning receiver with best price performance characteristics in the industry and to convince all providers of test equipment that they are far better off buying from a supplier who is a specialist in this area, rather than investing their scarce development resources into and internal and therefore very limited market for their own scanners.

  • So in summary on that second question, Matt, of course when one of your major customers gets acquired, it is a concern. But we believe we're dealing with this in a pretty productive way and, at least for the foreseeable future, we don't see an immediate threat.

  • Matt Robison - Analyst

  • If you look at the way your OEMs sell, to what degree do the other two have the ability to compete in the market for the TEMS customer base, should it come to --?

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • Yes, I think that they have a great capability of -- Swiss Call has come from a very small status to be roughly -- it's a privately-held company, we don't know for sure, but we think that they're $20 million to $30 million in revenue. Anite-Nemo is, of course, larger than that in this space.

  • And the data on revenues were released when Ascom acquired TEMS. An awful lot of that is service revenue and not necessary customer measurement product revenue.

  • And so what I would predict is that you'll see a very concerted effort by Swiss Call and Anite to work hard at grabbing more share. And so one thing that we are going to do is maintain our neutrality and continue to sell scanners to other companies as they attempt to grow, as they compete with other players in the field.

  • Matt Robison - Analyst

  • How are Swiss Call and Anite, how do they compare in size to TEMS for you guys now in that business?

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • TEMS is largest, Anite is the second, Swiss Call is the third. I would not give out specific data, though, on sales to individual customers.

  • Matt Robison - Analyst

  • Fair enough. Thanks for taking my questions.

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • And thank you again, Matt, for the opportunity to participate at that Wedbush Morgan conference.

  • Matt Robison - Analyst

  • Well, it was a pleasure having you.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from Ken Muth.

  • Ken Muth - Analyst

  • Hi. On the Wi-Sys acquisition integration here, do you see yourselves investing a lot? Or does it require a fair amount of integration work? Or would you consider that kind of being done already?

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • I think it's pretty much done. And I think what you'll see, Ken, quite frankly, is a pretty rapid move of the engineering responsibilities into Bloomingdale. And we're looking to achieve significant synergies over the rest of the year.

  • Ken Muth - Analyst

  • Okay. And kind of on the China 3G side, what is the opportunity time line for you there on some of the scanning things you've talked about before? You mentioned it at 3GSM and I think --

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • Yes, Ken, it's immediate. And I was asked by the General Manager of our Scanning Receiver business unit not to call out some of the specific customers that we already have contracts with. But we are competing there now, we're competing there aggressively, we've won some business.

  • And as you know, last year we were early with the TD-SCDMA scanning receiver. We have several combination scanning receivers. I think China's going to be a very strong market for us.

  • But the other thing, of course, both with China and India is, because the number of base stations are growing so rapidly, there's just a need for constant planning and re-planning. And all of that bodes well for scanning receiver sales.

  • Ken Muth - Analyst

  • So in your guidance that you're implying, there would be China in there?

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • There is China in there. I would say that I see some softness right now in the US that's offset by that.

  • Ken Muth - Analyst

  • And then on the public sector side, in the stimulus and money being spent there, when might that flow through to you guys?

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • You know, we've been to a couple government meetings on this with state level and city level, I guess they're called Chief Intelligence Officers --

  • John Schoen - CFO

  • Chief Technology.

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • Chief Technology, not really Chief Technology, but IOs. And one of the confusing elements of the stimulus plan is that there's not coordinated budget action at the State and local levels right now. I think that that's still going to take a while to work out, but we would expect to see something there by the fourth quarter.

  • But the meetings we've gone to, it's not clear how all that money is going to get allocated, what aspect to Homeland Security, what aspect to public safety. But we should start seeing an increase in spend in the fourth quarter.

  • Ken Muth - Analyst

  • Okay. And then just quickly, you mentioned where you thought total OpEx would be for the Q2, John, as you go through integration and things, does that stay about flat then going out? Or is there a possibility of synergies, like Marty just commented, that actually could come down in Q3?

  • John Schoen - CFO

  • Well, what Marty had said was that we're going to plow those synergies on the SG&A side back into more R&D. So as you model, if we can get more synergy out of the 66 we're doing now, as long revenue stays at least where it is today, we were going to plow those back into more engineering level and keep it at the 66 level.

  • Ken Muth - Analyst

  • Okay. Okay, thank you very much.

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • Ken, I look forward to seeing you at the Baird conference here in Chicago in May.

  • Ken Muth - Analyst

  • Yes. Just one quick follow up I had that I forgot here. What would you say is your rough percent of revenue that's in the public sector now?

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • Well, the way I look at it is that traditionally, if you look at last year, we had $77 million in total revenue. Around $51 million of that was in antennas and about half of that was in public safety or highly related areas to public safety. So approximately a third, maybe 25% to a third of our revenue comes from public safety applications of LMR.

  • Ken Muth - Analyst

  • Okay great. Thank you much.

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • Thank you again, Ken.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from Mike Crawford.

  • Mike Crawford - Analyst

  • Thanks. You said the scanning receiver mix was high in the quarter, can you give a rough breakout between LMR, scanning receivers and others?

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • We really never get down into that level of segment or product line reporting, Mike. But all we're willing to say is that it's a blessing and a curse, or a curse and a blessing, when antenna revenue declines faster than scanning receivers.

  • So although we hate to lose the revenue or see it decline, it's well known that our margins are higher on scanning receivers. And so normally with that type of revenue decline you would have anticipated a fall in gross margins. But because of the relative mix we were able to keep gross margins at about the same level.

  • Mike Crawford - Analyst

  • And on the LMR side, are there any deals in the works?

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • On the LMR side, Land Mobile Radio?

  • Mike Crawford - Analyst

  • Yes.

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • Well, you know, a good example of some of the things we're doing in LMR go outside of public safety and into private networks. One of the things, Mike, that you and I have talked about in the past and I know that Jeff mentioned at your recent conference, is the activities we have in SCADA, supervisory control and data analysis networks, that are applied to many different areas.

  • We recently made a sale and we think that we're going to be able to expand upon this in networks that are set up to use technology to better monitor, control and safeguard water flow. And we do similar things in monitoring the flow and management of oil at oil and gas fields. And so there are some nice, juicy verticals for us in the private enterprise wireless network where we apply our LMR antennas to those type of SCADA applications.

  • And then we're using a combination of antennas, Land Mobile Radio antennas and GPS antennas, for Positive Train Control or PTC systems. So we recently had a very nice network go in that uses our antennas in networks that are designed to prevent crashes of trains and other commuter vehicles. And again, this is an example of a vertical that's a great application of the combination of antennas that we have.

  • So those are the type of verticals that we look at. We're very active in agriculture, I think we've talked before about applying our GPS antennas to applications such as precision fertilization and precision seeding.

  • And I'm not going to mention the specific vendor, but I think we'll be in two or three vendors now on these little vehicles that GPS control is actually more precise than military control for these agricultural applications.

  • So we're spending a great deal of time getting intimate knowledge about these applications on the private wireless side that are embedded into the broad SCADA category that use our GPS and use our LMR antennas.

  • Mike Crawford - Analyst

  • Okay. And then you said the Wi-Sys integration is moving along but that the production is not fully transitioned?

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • No, no, no. The production is fully transitioned. If I misstated that, I apologize, Mike. Here's what I was trying to say. We have completed integration as of today. There's no further work to be done in terms of transitioning production.

  • What I was saying, though, is that there are some additional opportunities for synergy in which more of the engineering responsibility will be moved into Bloomingdale, away from Ottawa. And as John pointed out, that might not immediately translate into an OpEx reduction because we will take the fruits of that savings and plow them into increased spending in some key development areas. Is that clear?

  • Mike Crawford - Analyst

  • Yes, actually, but what was really going to be the gist of my question was more I saw the product line at IWCE and it was really just the commercial GPS stuff with nothing for the military. But the booth seemed to have some new AV and other kind of pictures there. And it seems like military is a good opportunity for Wi-Sys to sell into the DOD, which is a market that would have been close to them as a Canadian company before. So is there --

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • Well we do actually sell our GPS into defense contractors that sell into the military; we've talked about that before. The business is a little bit lumpy, but that is an absolute and important vertical for us to expand. And those pictures portray accurately the type of applications that we currently have and that we see in the future for our GPS antennas.

  • Mike Crawford - Analyst

  • And the final question is, it seems like the leads you were getting from the new Medallion were maybe stronger than expected. So what kind of revenue product line can that be in a decent market?

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • Well, I think it'll be a great product line. But as you know, Mike, from other businesses, lead generation to closing sales can take anywhere from six to 24 months. So it would be probably a little bit misleading for me to suggest a specific day that we'll see an X-million dollar product line.

  • But I do believe that you're right, I think the leads for Medallion are strong and that we'll develop further our GPS product line, which as you know is one of our areas of emphasis.

  • Mike Crawford - Analyst

  • Okay. Actually, just one final question. I notice that you just brought bought back a handful of shares. What were the thoughts on that?

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • We only had one day to buy and that was the limit we could buy, Mike. In other words, because of Barcelona and because of the length of the closing process in the first quarter with SOx and other things, we reported very late.

  • And as you know, we have a pretty strict policy here that we can only buy back shares and officers can only buy and sell shares in the middle quarter plus one week, the middle five weeks of the quarter. And on top of that, we don't do anything until three business days after the earnings release.

  • So that left us, I think, with a whopping --

  • John Schoen - CFO

  • Actually, one business day --

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • A couple of days. And we then are further restricted in terms of buying back a percent of the volume per day. And so there was really not a big opportunity for us.

  • Mike Crawford - Analyst

  • Okay thank you.

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • You're welcome.

  • Operator

  • Again, ladies and gentlemen, if you have any questions, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Again, that is star one. We have no further questions at this time. Mr. Singer, do you have any closing remarks?

  • Marty Singer - Chairman and CEO

  • Yes and thank you for your help in this conference call. Thank you all for joining us on this call and webcast. We are planning to attend the Baird Growth Stock Conference in Chicago on May 13 and the Barclays Capital Worldwide Wireline and Wireless Conference in New York on May 27 and May 28th. We look forward to seeing many of you at those events. Thank you again and we'll talk to you next quarter.

  • Operator

  • This concludes today's conference call, you may now disconnect at this time.