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  • Operator

  • Greetings, and welcome to the Potbelly First Quarter 2017 Earnings Call and Webcast. (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

  • I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Matt Revord, Potbelly's Chief Legal Officer. You may begin.

  • Matthew J. Revord - Chief Legal Officer, SVP, General Counsel and Secretary

  • Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter earnings call. Before we get started, I'd like to note that certain comments made on this call will contain forward-looking statements regarding future events or the future financial performance of the company. Any such statements, including our outlook for 2017 or any other future periods, should be considered forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance nor should they be relied upon as representing management’s views as of any subsequent date.

  • Forward-looking statements involve significant risks and uncertainties, and events or results could differ materially from those presented due to a number of risks and uncertainties. Additional detailed information concerning these risks regarding our business and the factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements and other information we'll be giving today can be found in our most recent annual report on Form 10-K under the headings Risk Factors and MD&A and in our subsequent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which are available at sec.gov.

  • Our presenters today are Aylwin Lewis, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Mike Coyne, our Chief Financial Officer.

  • Aylwin will begin with his perspective on the first quarter performance and provide a discussion of our ongoing strategic initiatives. Mike will then review our financial results and future outlook in more detail before we open the call up for your questions. Aylwin?

  • Aylwin B. Lewis - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Thanks, Matt. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for joining the call. During the first quarter, we generated revenue of $102 million, an increase of 6%, driven by our new unit growth. We opened 11 new shops, including 8 new franchise shops and 3 company-operated shops. We still delivered adjusted EBITDA growth of 12% to $9.2 million, adjusted net income growth of approximately 17% to $1.3 million and adjusted EPS growth of 25% to $0.05 per diluted share.

  • The operating environment remains highly challenging for restaurants, and our business performance in the first quarter was reflective of the negative traffic trends experienced throughout most of the industry. The comparable same-store sales declined 3.1% during the quarter. This fell short of our expectation as the negative traffic trends that we saw at the end of 2016 declined during the first quarter and continues to persist.

  • As we view our outlook, it is clear that the industry headwinds continue unabated and traffic-building remains challenging. While we expect comparisons to ease in the second half of the year as we begin to lap the industry headwinds, we assume a continuation of current macro trends and our outlook is for low single-digit decrease in comparable same-store sales for 2017.

  • We're not satisfied with these outcomes and we're evaluating new strategies to drive sales growth and profitability. We're dedicating teams to uncover cost saving opportunities in our operating expenses to manage our profitability and optimizing our capital spend to align with market conditions.

  • While the current restaurant environment remains challenging, we are reassured by the fact that we have a proven brand and we remain committed to enhancing our value equation and delivering on our promise by providing great fresh food served quickly by friendly associates in a warm and inviting atmosphere at a good price.

  • Let's discuss several key strategic areas that we are focused on to drive operational excellence, improve our performance and increase shareholder value. The major focus in 2017 is to clearly communicate our differentiation from other fast casual concepts, as well as to enhance convenience and loyalty. As an organization, we can vastly improve on our storytelling of our special brand, its long history of great people and exceptional food, and this can be a sales driver for us when communicated the right way. As a result, we'll soon be refreshing our brand message, creating a new tagline, updating the content of our digital advertising.

  • In addition, Potbelly is turning 40 years this year. And to that end, we're having a month-long celebration in June. All elements of the brand will be featured during this 30-day period, fundraising events, birthday cake shake, customer appreciation. The birthday will serve as a way to reintroduce the brand to the world.

  • On a more tactical level, we are focused on increasing convenience and customer engagement through investments in technology and innovation to drive sales growth. At the end of February, we launched our new mobile app and redesigned website to enhance the ways our guests can more conveniently enjoy their favorite Potbelly meals. The app features an array of capabilities, such as order ahead, mobile pay and the ability to send digital gift cards. We are encouraged by the early adoption of our app, which has already been downloaded nearly 250,000 times. The app is the foundation for future technology innovations that will drive convenience and loyalty.

  • As part of the app roll out, we also introduced our Potbelly Perks Customer Engagement program. This is our first ever official rewards program, and it combines both surprise and delight offers and status tier perks. After only 8 weeks, we have more than 165,000 enrolled in the Potbelly Perks program. Customers can register for Potbelly Perks through the mobile app or on the website.

  • We will continue to test digital menu boards in several shops. They will enhance our in-shop messaging and allow us to drive menu innovation as well as daypart sales. There are also opportunities to promote neighborhood marketing events, such as fundraisers and music. Longer-term, we are partnered with an outside vendor to consult with us to do a redesign of our typical Potbelly shop. We're calling this our Shop 2020 project. We're excited to begin the development of how a customer can experience Potbelly in the shop of the future. The guiding principles of this project is Uber convenience for our customers: Drive through, dine-in, off-premise and pick up. The goal is to make all our transactions relation-building and convenient. We're also looking for ways in this project to reduce development time and cost.

  • We have also invested in 3 new shop-level tools that are focused on reinforcing the [great Potbelly] shop: A new recruiting tool for better enable our shops who value potential new hires for culture, making it easier for us to hire nice people and teach them the Potbelly way. This will help us better assess positive energy, work ethic, reliability, customer service skills and flexibility, with an over goal of reduction in turnover. Secondly, we'll be rolling out a new learning management software later this year. This LMS will improve employee development, execution of training programs, employee engagement through clarified career development, and thereby, improving employee retention.

  • As we strengthen our bench to support our growth, improving accountability and execution of the Assistant Manager and GM development, we'll increase the number of leaders ready for the next step of leadership. Furthermore, decrease in employee turnover will directly impact productivity by having highly skilled employees serving customers better and faster.

  • Lastly, we are developing a management productivity tool designed to allow our management teams to run the shop from the floor. Real-time information about sales, labor, food safety at their fingertips, thereby allowing more time to interact with customers and to grow the business.

  • We are also in the process of upgrading our shop technology infrastructure that will establish a more reliable Internet connection for our shops' wireless tools and for our customers' wireless devices. These technology investments are now occurring and will continue to occur within the framework of our current expense and capital structure. Due to our strong cash flow and balance sheet liquidity, we will accelerate investments that have a direct impact upon consumer demands.

  • In addition to technology, we will continue to focus on menu innovation and the backline as sales growth drivers. During the first quarter, we introduced our Turkey Fresco sandwich, which features all natural, hand-pulled premium turkey, topped with roasted red peppers, spinach and basil mayo. Turkey Fresco has been very well-received and is meeting our performance expectation relative to mix. However, relative to backline, we achieved only a low-single digit of growth during the quarter. Backline has tremendous potential, remains a large part of our future growth story.

  • We expect to add 2 to 3 catering kitchens this year, as well as to add 2 to 3 more catering managers. We believe the backline will benefit from the recent rollout of the upgraded mobile app and website.

  • Turning to our new unit development. During the first quarter, we opened 11 shops, including 8 franchise shops and 3 company-owned shops. We're off to good start in terms of our franchise growth. We remain fully committed to opening 15 to 20 franchise shops this year. We opened our second franchise shop in Toronto, and we continue to be encouraged by the performance of this new market in the Potbelly Nation.

  • We continue to focus on franchise expansion as a sustainable way to grow the brand, while balancing our credit capital risk. Over time, we expect our franchising mix to account for 20% to 25% of our total shop portfolio.

  • As we communicated on our last call, in February of 2017, our lease at Midway was at risk. Subsequent to the release, we were notified by the city of Chicago that our Midway shop will cease operations by the middle of May 2017. Mike will discuss the revisions to our outlook for the remainder of 2017 to reflect the closing later in the call. But needless to say, it was our highest-volume location, and therefore, a loss to our business. We have had an exceptional privilege of serving millions of customers around the world over the past 16 years at the Midway International Airport. The shop was managed with excellence by [Julio Laboy], who was one of our greatest talents in the Potbelly organization. I believe we can overcome this setback, and we're working very hard to replace this shop with other highly productive airport locations. In fact, during quarter 1, we opened high-volume franchise shops at the Tampa and Houston Airports. We have a Midway profit improvement plan in place.

  • For the full year, we reaffirmed our outlook for 30 to 40 new company-operated shops and 15 to 20 new franchise shops. The mix of franchise shops is greater this year than in the past. We will continue to push franchisee growth in North America and outside of North America. Unit growth is important to us. As long as the returns justify, we will spend our capital. The market conditions will dictate our path -- our pace of growth.

  • Strong headwinds continue to hurt consumer demand. However, we're still able to deliver 25% adjusted EPS growth. We're not certain when the market conditions will change. We're not hoping and waiting. Technology investments are important. Shop 2020 is us disrupting ourselves. Our losing Midway hurts the success of this shop across 16 years, but demonstrates to other airports the economic strength of our brand. And the strength of the company will allow us to withstand this down cycle and be stronger in the future.

  • Now Mike will go through the details of the P&L for the first quarter and provide an overview of our expectations for 2017. Mike?

  • Michael Coyne - CFO and SVP

  • Thanks, Aylwin, and good afternoon, everyone. As Aylwin mentioned, I will review the P&L and give you some of the highlights associated with our first quarter results. I'll also provide a summary of our outlook for the remainder of 2017.

  • Starting with the top line. Total revenue increased 6% to $102 million in the first quarter, driven predominantly by our new unit growth. During the first quarter, our company-operated same-store sales decreased 3.1%. Breaking down same-store sales, our average check grew approximately 3.1%, driven by price.

  • Moving down to shop P&L. Shop-level margin for the quarter was 17.8% of company-operated sales as compared to 18.6% in the prior year period. Our cost of goods sold as a percent of company-operated sales was 26.4% in the first quarter, an improvement of 110 basis points to the prior year, driven by the combined impact of pricing and favorable commodity trends.

  • Labor was 30.2%, which was an increase of about 70 basis points versus the prior year, driven primarily by wage inflation and sales deleverage, partially offset by our price increases. Occupancy expense was 14% in the first quarter, an increase of 60 basis points as compared to the prior year due to sales deleverage and increases in certain occupancy related costs, including lease renewals, higher real estate taxes and higher common area maintenance.

  • Operating expenses as a percent of sales were 11.5% in the first quarter, an increase of 40 basis points compared to the prior year period. Our operating expenses include items like repairs and maintenance, credit card fees, insurance, utilities and supplies and therefore, have variability from quarter to quarter. We remain focused on finding opportunities to drive productivity across our shop-level expenses to offset these cost pressures.

  • Our general and administrative expenses were approximately $10.4 million in the first quarter or 10.2% of total revenue, which is a reduction of about $200,000 or 80 basis points as compared to the prior year period, driven primarily from advertising and performance-based incentive expenses. The timing of our advertising expense in 2017 is aligned to sequence with our mobile app launch and our brand and storytelling initiatives later this year.

  • Our adjusted EBITDA was $9.2 million in the quarter, which is an increase of 12% from the prior year period. Note that beginning in the first quarter of 2017, we modified our definition of adjusted EBITDA to eliminate the adjustment of preopening and public company costs in order to improve the usefulness and comparability of this measure. Prior period adjusted EBITDA financial measures have been restated to reflect this change.

  • We had an effective tax rate of 45% in the first quarter, which was negatively impacted by the adoption of the new accounting standard, which relates to the recognition of excess tax benefits and deficiencies related to stock option exercises. The adoption of the standard resulted in approximately $100,000 of additional income tax expense during the first quarter, which increased our tax rate by approximately 7 percentage points. Excluding this item, the effective tax rate would have been 37.6%.

  • Our adjusted net income for the first quarter was $1.3 million or an increase of 17% from $1.1 million in the prior year period, and our adjusted net income per diluted share was $0.05, an increase of approximately 25% from the prior year period.

  • Regarding our share repurchase program, in the first quarter, we repurchased approximately 153,000 shares of Potbelly common stock in the open market for a total of approximately $2 million. At the end of the first quarter, we had $25.7 million available from our board-authorized program for repurchases, which will continue to as we move forward.

  • Our CapEx came in at approximately $7 million, and our balance sheet remains very strong with a cash balance at the end of the first quarter of $27.4 million, and we had 0 debt.

  • Now turning to our outlook for the full year fiscal '17. We have seen a continuation of the negative traffic trends from the end of the fourth quarter of 2016, which declined through the first quarter of 2017. As we look out to the balance of '17, we do not contemplate an improvement in the challenged macro environment in our plan, and so we expect the comparable store sales to decline in the low single-digit range in 2017.

  • As Aylwin mentioned earlier, we were notified by the City of Chicago that we'll be required to vacate the space of our shop at Midway by the middle of May of 2017. For perspective, for the year ended December 25, 2016, our Midway shop represented approximately $7.8 million in revenue and approximately $2 million in income before taxes. We estimate the impact of the loss of Midway for the balance of the year to be approximately $0.04 of EPS.

  • We continue to expect a relatively modest level of goods inflation accelerating slightly as we progress through the year, given expectations around timing of inflation and our pricing. We still anticipate cost of goods sold in the range of 26.5% to 27.5% for 2017, and our food cost basket is about 80% locked for the year.

  • We continue to expect labor as a percent of sales to trend around 30%. Our guidance assumes continued wage pressures from minimum wage increases implemented last year, as well as expected minimum wage increases in 2017 in major markets, in part, offset by the price that we have taken. We will continue to manage our labor expense through continued efforts and investments to improve our labor productivity.

  • Due to the challenging top line environment, we are tightly managing our expenses and reducing our pay-for-performance incentives in an effort to improve our bottom line performance. Therefore, we have revised our outlook for G&A expense to be in the range of $42 million to $43 million, down from our original guidance of $44.5 million to $45.5 million.

  • For the year, we now expect adjusted net income in the range of $9 million to $10 million, and adjusted net income per diluted share in the range of $0.35 to $0.38. This revision is driven by our softer sales growth assumptions and the closure of our Midway shop.

  • In addition, we expect an effective tax rate in the range of 36% to 38%, excluding the impact of the new accounting standard. As a reminder, our full year fiscal 2017 is a 53-week year, and our guidance includes an extra week in our fourth quarter. For context, the impact of the 53rd week is estimated to contribute approximately $7 million of revenue and approximately $700,000 of adjusted EBITDA. We do not expect a meaningful impact to our bottom line.

  • On shop development, we reiterate our prior outlook and expect to open 30 to 40 company-operated shops and 15 to 20 franchise shops for a total of 45 to 60 total new shops, which we expect to be back-end weighted, but to a lesser degree as compared to 2016. We continue to expect to spend between $37 million and $39 million in CapEx in 2017. And although we do not provide quarterly guidance, I want to provide you with some color on certain puts and takes, as you think about the cadence of our quarterly performance.

  • As we discussed, we have seen traffic trends continue to decline from the end of '16 through the first quarter. We expect comparisons to ease as we progress throughout the year. In addition, we expect inflation impacts to increase during the year, while noting that our pricing from August of 2016 rolls off.

  • On the unit-development front, again, I want to reiterate that we expect our shop development in 2017 to be back-end weighted, again, to a lesser extent than our heavily back-end weighted cadence in 2016.

  • So with that, I'm going to turn it back over to Aylwin for summary remarks. Aylwin?

  • Aylwin B. Lewis - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Thanks, Mike. At this point, with the performance relative to sales in the first quarter, it's going to be a very challenging year in 2017. We're not going to wait and hope that trends get better. Really, we're focused on the right near-term strategies that will enable us to compete more effectively in the environment, particularly, we are focus on technology and innovation. We continue to place shop focus on cost management and capital optimization to ensure that we have the resources we need to drive our strategic initiatives.

  • The Potbelly brand remains strong. We believe in the long-term fundamentals of the business. We believe the actions we are taking now will leave us well-positioned to accelerate growth as the operating environment improves. We remain committed to achieving our long-term goals in the future.

  • With that, we'll ask -- open it up to questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) And our first question comes from David Tarantino from Robert W. Baird.

  • David E. Tarantino - Associate Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst

  • Just a couple of questions. The first one being a clarification on your guidance for the year. So I think you mentioned you expected comparisons to get better as the year progresses. So just wondering if you could frame up how you're thinking about that a little bit more clearly. Are you expecting some progress on the comps in the second quarter? Or are you thinking more like we won't see progress until the back half? And if you can comment on current trends to date in the quarter, that would be helpful.

  • Michael Coyne - CFO and SVP

  • Sure. I can start, and then Aylwin can come after. Yes, I think that you should think more about the improvement in the comps coming in the second half of the year, while different in magnitude, consistent with our thoughts a few months back. So that's how I think about that. And then the quarter-to-date, what I'd say first about the first quarter at the minus 03/01 comp, March actually was our weakest of the 3 months, and it's really those trends that have continued into April, so quarter-to-date. So -- and that's in part the March, April kind of trends where we're off of what we're forecasting and it has really led us down the path, without seeing any brightening in the broader environment, led us to refine our outlook.

  • David E. Tarantino - Associate Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst

  • Got it. And then just a follow-up on that last comment. I mean, we've heard from several companies that March and April seems like it's gotten better for the industry overall and it doesn't seem like you're following that same pattern. So could you maybe opine on what you think is happening in your business, and whether you're benchmarking versus other indicators that you're seeing that kind of weakness? Any perspective on that would be helpful.

  • Aylwin B. Lewis - Chairman, CEO and President

  • We're using normal black box stuff. We've had 3 or 4 folks in with outside industry data that have more information than us. And it's been pretty consistent when you look at the broad patterns. You may have some differences. The Easter shift definitely hurt in key -- those in 4 -- yes, the Easter shift hurt in 4, helped a little bit in 3. So -- and it's geographical for us. So the middle of the country that is typically very strong is fairly soft. So we're seeing some decent stuff on the 2 coasts but the center of the country is soft.

  • David E. Tarantino - Associate Director of Research and Senior Research Analyst

  • Okay. That's helpful. And then Aylwin, just a question, as you think about the state of the business and where the stock's likely to be trading tomorrow, I think investors have been asking, is it time to start thinking about other value-enhancing initiatives? And I guess, one that comes up frequently is a more aggressive approach to franchising, and perhaps refranchising company stores and slowing down the capital deployment in the company stores. So could you just kind of comment on that, I guess, strategy and whether that's something you're willing to consider at this point?

  • Aylwin B. Lewis - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Well, I mean, we don't have a tight philosophy on company versus franchise, and we're definitely going to accelerate it. What's key is how you operate the business. If you're down -- being down and you've got close to 19% margin is still better than down and you got a 6% margin. So I think our overall strategy is fine. The markets you would refranchise would be tremendously profitable. I don't see how that helps us with how we generate the cash. We're comfortable with returns that our new shops are getting. We are moderating our company targets this year with 30 to 40 versus 40 to 50 this time last year, and we're being guided by the marketplace. We continue to open up shops with good sales and profit results. So we're heavily looking for franchisees in California. We have a lot of multi-unit agreements. So I feel like we're on track with that. It's the cycle in the industry that's really tough. And particularly tough, we're a public sandwich company, but we're also aware what's going on in the particularly the sandwich industry. So I mean, refranchising is not a panacea to -- when you're in a down cycle. And we're not losing money, we're still making money. We still have healthy returns. Big 2 is awesome by any stretch of imagination. And we're -- we will manage the rest of the costs so we'll still have good flow-through, and we'll still have a very close to a 19%, 19.5% margin for the year. So I -- but we're not doctrinaire on it. The day we don't get the return to our capital, we don't spend it. And we are moderating it based on what we're seeing in the marketplace. But we're still opening really strong shops in our legacy markets and our new markets.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from Sharon Zackfia from William Blair.

  • Matthew Curtis

  • Matt Curtis on for Sharon. I guess, first question on average check, you mentioned it was a benefit of 3.1%. Could you just split that out into the price benefit versus mix?

  • Michael Coyne - CFO and SVP

  • Yes, sure. The price was approximately 3.4%, and the mix was actually down about 0.03%.

  • Matthew Curtis

  • Okay. And for negative mix, I'm just thinking about Turkey Fresco. I think maybe that was lapping against protein power salads last year, which was at, I think, a higher price point close to $8. Is that what drove the negative mix? Or was it something else?

  • Michael Coyne - CFO and SVP

  • Yes, the protein and avocado, it was one period. We've only had one period of the Turkey Fresco. So in the first quarter, it was Skinny Pair, and pretty much what we had prior year.

  • Matthew Curtis

  • Okay. And then, I guess, just on the traffic weakness in general in the first quarter and continuing, I guess. Is there really something you can point to that's specifically -- it's stemming from Potbelly, like either having to do with your geographic distribution or something else? Or is it really more of a generalized industry trend that's impacting you?

  • Aylwin B. Lewis - Chairman, CEO and President

  • It's, like I said before, it's kind of the middle of the country where our strength is, has been in the past. And it's certain dayparts. So -- but it is the middle of the country.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from Nicole Miller from Piper Jaffray.

  • Nicole Miller Regan - MD and Senior Research Analyst

  • Just one clarifying point and then a question. Was the CapEx guidance of $37 million to $39 million maintained? And I'm sorry if I missed that. And then just the bigger picture question. There is a lot of great ideas and strategies that you covered in your prepared remarks, Aylwin. How do you prioritize what you do? And would we first see a positive sales impact or a positive margin impact?

  • Michael Coyne - CFO and SVP

  • I'll just start by saying it's the same guidance on the $37 million to $39 million that we've made before. Aylwin, sorry.

  • Aylwin B. Lewis - Chairman, CEO and President

  • So things like the management goals, you should see margin impact. So things like better selection tool, the productivity tablet where managers can make decisions and run the business from the floor. That's all geared toward productivity and that will help the margin. The Shop 2020, we definitely hope that's going to be a customer and sales piece. The branding and the storytelling is definitely the customer piece. We hope to reveal the new tagline with the birthday. I think the birthday celebration is a great opportunity to reintroduce the brand to the world. And so we're excited about that. That will happen in June. June 1 is actually the birth date that we're having a big shindig in Chicago. And so what we're trying to do now is not leave any stones unturned relative to technology. We do believe technology and innovation, it has to accelerate if you're going to compete in this environment. And it is around, from a customer-facing standpoint, Uber-ization. What I actually mean is Uber convenience, and then the second part is just being very efficient with what we do. We're trying to become less paper, more efficient. So actually both. If I'm going to err on the side of upgrading the spending, it will be on the side of growing the sales. So the digital menu boards, we tested it last year. We were ready to trigger that. We found a vendor that could save us about 1/3 of the cost per shop. So fortunately, we waited and got a bit of negotiation. We're going to accelerate the digital menu boards now. So that's a long-winded answer, but customer-facing technology broadly across the company as we try to become a digital company, and you should see a margin impact and you should see a sales impact.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from Karen Holthouse from Goldman Sachs.

  • Gregory Lum - Research Analyst

  • This is actually Greg Lum on for Karen today. So I had a couple questions related to the mobile app. So along with the mobile app launch, you actually offered free sandwiches with the trial. Just wondering what the impact to traffic was in the quarter? And then more specifically, what line item we should expect to see the cost hit?

  • Aylwin B. Lewis - Chairman, CEO and President

  • I'm sorry, can you repeat?

  • Gregory Lum - Research Analyst

  • Sorry. So a couple of questions on the mobile app. So with the mobile app launch, you had a free sandwich offer with the trial of the app. So I was wondering what impact that might have had on the traffic number in the comp? And then related to the cost, what line item we should expect to see the cost related to the free sandwiches hit?

  • Aylwin B. Lewis - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Yes. The free sandwich was about a 2- to 3-week period of time. That cost is already in COGS. So we're covering that through COGS. And you see our COGS number is a pretty good number. The -- you didn't -- at 200,000 sign-ups, you didn't have all 200,000 get the free sandwich. So you didn't see an impact on the sales. It is the foundation that you're laying. It's part of the technology. It's part of the convenience factor. And then the big thing is that you're going to start getting data from those customers that you'll be able to use to market to those customers more directly. And then as we add more features to make convenience, over time, we hope the business will grow using the app.

  • Gregory Lum - Research Analyst

  • Okay. And then how does -- sorry.

  • Aylwin B. Lewis - Chairman, CEO and President

  • [We aren't going to] see a traffic impact because you don't have the magnitude of -- you need 1 million customers to download it, and half of those using it, to see an impact to the business right now.

  • Gregory Lum - Research Analyst

  • Okay. And then I was wondering if you had any data on just how usage compared at peak versus off-peak, and then whether you had noticed any operational challenges with the rollout of the app?

  • Aylwin B. Lewis - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Yes. I'd say, it was an A- rollout. And we did have some things and we jumped right on it. For instance, you had delivery zones, and before we could specify by shop, we rolled out the app, and it defaulted to the closest shop. And if you were a customer of ours and outside that default line, you couldn't order. So it took us about 2 weeks to solve that one. The thing with all of this stuff, this technology, is that you're tied to your POS. So NCR is the POS shop. Everybody knows in the industry, POS vendors are not the most innovative. We have 2 vendors from the northeast that we're working with that one did the app, the other one did the website. They're very progressive, very good developers. But it's all governed by your POS. And so we had some issues. We resolved those issues. And now we're working kind of in the second phase of the rollout with enhancements. The real thing that we think will drive business over time is the rewards program. And that's meant to delight customers, as well as to give them benefits and features based on how much they spend with us.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Gregory Francfort from Bank of America.

  • JonMichael P. Shekian - Research Analyst

  • It's exactly JonMichael on for Greg. Just wanted to ask a high-level question on that casual, whether or not you're seeing a shakeout in unit growth from competitors. You mentioned you were dialing back your openings from last year. And then just a quick update on catering, maybe how many kitchens you're at now? And what the strategy looks like moving into the year?

  • Aylwin B. Lewis - Chairman, CEO and President

  • We have 3 right now. The goal is to have 2 to 3 this year. And that's real. Eventually, we see catering kitchens almost in every city we do business. It's a great way to aggregate orders and really grow that business. You can maintain quality more effectively. The shops always have a delivery function and a catering function, but we want to aggregate those big orders and get those big orders. And then folks say it's overbuilt. Folks say it's oversaturated. I can't say the shakeout. You know better than me in terms of folks that are kind of closing their doors. Our goal is with our balance sheet and our financial discipline, we can withstand this cycle and come out of it stronger. If we're in a marketplace where it's not wise to invest our capital, we won't do it. If we're in a marketplace because of closures, we can maximize our capital by getting into new marketplaces or getting into new neighborhoods, that's what we're going to do. So we feel like, from a development standpoint, we're perfectly poised to maximize whatever the marketplace kind of dictates. The fortunate thing is our franchisees are continuing to build, opening some really good success. And so we feel very good about the development effort and how we're managing the capital and how we're moderating based on market conditions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) And our next question comes from Steve Anderson from Maxim Group.

  • Stephen Anderson - SVP and Senior Restaurant and Consumer Analyst

  • I'm calling to ask, besides the economic difficulties that you've noted, we've heard some operators in -- more recently, that they've seen some strength in the Midwest. And also, you're seeing some milder weather, you look at greater Chicago they have the least amount of snowfall in more than 15 years and milder-than-usual temperatures. Do you typically -- I mean, at the last call, you said weather hurt you in the fourth quarter, but would seem to -- might have -- do you think it might have helped you this quarter, but what do you think happened in your markets?

  • Aylwin B. Lewis - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Well, yes. It was a mild winter for January and February. March, we had a major snowstorm in the East Coast that really hurt P3. We didn't talk about that, but it closed down. We got 2.5 days of closure in DC and about 3 days of closure in New York. So that definitely hurt the period in the quarter. It has not been a good spring in Chicago. Yesterday, it was, in fact, it was 32 degrees. Today is rainy and 37 degrees. So that didn't help you. Our patios are not out anywhere in the city because of that. So we didn't talk about weather. It was a mild January, February. It has not been a good spring so far. But, listen, I can't speak for other people. Obviously, we look at the comparisons. We look at the industry. We [plug it in] to make sure that how we're looking at that this year and looking at our business is actually reality. We're putting a full core press on talking to our customers. We had focus groups in Chicago last week talking to customers to understand how they're feeling about the brand, and whether or not their feeling about the brand has changed over the last few years. Obviously, we don't like being in this position, and that's why we're going to spend on technology. That's why we started the Shop 2020 as a way to say, how do we disrupt our service model, which we really like, but how do you make it -- make sure that it's for tomorrow's customers today. We're upgrading the tagline in the marketing. The digital piece has not been as robust this year as it was in '15, although we just started it 4 weeks ago with the Turkey Fresco. So it's a tough cycle, and we hope -- we're going to do everything in our power to come out of it as soon as possible. Again, with our strong financials and liquidity and balance sheet and margin, we have a real opportunity to withstand it. But we're not waiting and hoping and we're not sitting around saying, woe is me. But we're working to get out of it.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) And if there are no further questions, I'd like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Lewis for any closing comments.

  • Aylwin B. Lewis - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Thanks for your questions and participation. Obviously, I don't like the sales trend, as I've expressed in the remarks. And the answer is that we're working hard to abate it. Companies that will win, and are winning today, have done a really good job with technology, so we're trying to follow suit. You're going to have to disrupt your current service model so you can anticipate what the customers' needs are for tomorrow. And we're going to keep working at it. The strength of the balance sheet, strength of the P&L allows us to come out of this. We're spending capital judiciously. We are driving franchising hard. And we think we'll come out of this good -- in good shape. Midway hurts, and the 16 years we have had that site, we felt it was a privilege. It was a brand builder. But losing an $8 million shop and a $2 million profit shop is difficult, but we can withstand it. Definitely can withstand it better today than if it had happened 3 years ago or 5 years ago.

  • So thanks for your interest, appreciate the support, and buy more sandwiches.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. This concludes today's teleconference. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time.