歐尼克 (OKE) 2011 Q2 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the second-quarter 2011 ONEOK and ONEOK Partners earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session, and instructions will follow at that time.

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference call, Mr. Dan Harrison. You may begin, sir.

  • Dan Harrison - VP Investor Relations and Public Affairs

  • Thank you. Good morning, and thanks, everyone for joining us. A reminder that any statements made during this call that might include ONEOK or ONEOK Partners expectations or predictions should be considered forward-looking statements and are covered by the Safe Harbor provision of the Securities Acts of 1933 and 1934. Please note that actual results could differ materially from those projected in any forward-looking statements. For a discussion of factors that could cause actual results to differ, please refer to our SEC filings. And now, let me turn the call over to John Gibson, Chairman, President, and CEO of ONEOK and ONEOK Partners. John?

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • Thank you, Dan. Good morning, and many thanks for joining us today. We appreciate your continued investment and interest in ONEOK and ONEOK Partners. Joining me are Rob Martinovich, Chief Financial Officer for ONEOK and ONEOK Partners, who will review our quarterly results and updated guidance; Terry Spencer, ONEOK Partners' Chief Operating Officer, who will discuss the Partnership's operating results; and Pierce Norton, ONEOK's Chief Operating Officer, who will discuss the performance of our Natural Gas Distribution and Energy Services segments.

  • As we begin the call this morning, in my remarks, I will provide some perspective on our second-quarter financial results and updated guidance and discuss the impact of our share-based compensation programs on our results. I'll also comment on the acquisition market in the context of the recent Southern Union transaction, and then conclude with an update on our efforts to deal with a recently enacted Oklahoma law requiring us to have a classified Board.

  • So, let's start with the second-quarter financial performance. ONEOK Partners' second-quarter performance was exceptional. Our natural gas liquids business continues to benefit from favorable NGL price differentials and by having more fractionation and transportation capacity available to use for optimization activities. While the wider natural gas liquid differentials played a key role in the natural gas liquids business, exceeding our expectations, it is more important to note that the base business, the fee-based exchange services business, exceeded our plan as we continue to add new NGL volumes to our system. The point is that our natural gas liquids business, in particular our key fee-based earnings component, exchange services, performed well without those unprecedented, wide differentials.

  • That is important because we recognized that as we, and others, add transportation capacity between the 2 NGL market centers, the basis will contract. While we have built a business capable of capturing the upside present in the market, we have, most importantly, built one that creates growing value based on providing fee-based services to the market. It has been gratifying to see our investments and strategies pay off for our customers and investors, not only in the first half of the year, but also in our expectations for the full year and beyond.

  • At the ONEOK level, we believe the Partnership's continued strong performance will cover the shortfall we are experiencing in other parts of the Company this year.

  • Our Natural Gas Distribution segment performed as we expected. However, the largest portion of the share-based costs the Company incurred in the first half of the year were allocated to the segment because it has the largest number of employees. This resulted in lower second-quarter earnings and an adjustment to the 2011 operating income guidance in the Distribution segment. Without these expenses, this segment would be meeting its plan. More on the share-based expenses in a moment.

  • Energy Services quarterly results were disappointing. While the Energy Services team has worked hard and done a good job realigning its leased storage and transportation capacity to meet the needs of premium-services customers to reduce earnings volatility, extremely challenging market conditions have more than offset their efforts. Low natural gas prices and volatility, due to a supply surplus as a result of shale gas plays, have tightened seasonal storage and location price differentials to unprecedentedly narrow levels.

  • While we are not pleased with Energy Services results, or its revised expectations, they are based on the current market with low prices and narrow basis differentials, resulting in our not being able to meet the original guidance for this segment. Pierce will update you on our efforts to address these issues.

  • Despite our reduced expectations for Energy Services, we are confident in our ability to achieve our revised 2011 guidance at ONEOK. We believe that the continued performance at the Partnership will offset the weaker performance at Energy Services.

  • Now, some perspective on the share-based cost that affected our second-quarter results, primarily in the Natural Gas Distribution segment. As you know, the ONEOK share price has increased significantly this year. Our employee stock-award plan awards 1 share of stock to each employee whenever we hit an all-time high in $1 increments. This program is part of our total compensation package and was created to reward employees for their contributions in creating shareholder value and to align their interest with shareholders.

  • Since the program's inception in 2004, we've awarded 50 shares of ONEOK stock to employees and 20 shares so far this year, 19 in the first 6 months, and a twentieth share in early July. It is important to note that employees went 3.5 years, from May of 2007 until December of 2010 without an award. As the cost for these awards mounted this year, a suggestion was made to me to terminate the program to address these rising costs and unplanned expenses.

  • We considered the suggestion but decided to continue the program for several reasons. First, while the expense is not insignificant, it is a small price to pay for the value our employees have created, which is more than $2 billion in share price appreciation since the beginning of this year. Second, the program did what it was supposed to do, align employees' interest with shareholders. And finally, and perhaps more importantly, what would it say about us as a Company and a leadership team if, when the program starts to significantly reward employees, we terminate it?

  • It's our leadership team's responsibility to find ways to overcome these costs, and with the help of our employees, we are looking for ways to do just that through cost savings or revenue growth within the Company. At this time, Rob will now review ONEOK Partners' financial highlights, and then he will hand it off to Terry, so that he may review the Partnership's operating performance. Rob?

  • Rob Martinovich - SVP, CFO and Treasurer

  • Thanks, John, and good morning, everyone. In the second quarter, ONEOK Partners reported a 63% year-over-year increase in net income. Distributable cash flow increased 48%, compared with the second quarter last year, resulting in a coverage ratio of 1.44 times.

  • In July, ONEOK Partners completed a 2-for-1 split of the Partnership's common units and Class B units. This split enhances liquidity and makes our units more accessible to a broader base of potential investors. Also in July, we increased the distribution by $0.01 per unit on a split-adjusted basis, or $0.02 per unit on a pre-split basis, twice the amount we had in 2011 guidance, due to the strong NGL performance that Terry will discuss in a moment. Pending Board approval, the Partnership now anticipates increasing the distribution $0.01 per unit per quarter for the remainder of 2011. Building on the second-quarter 2011 distribution increase, which marked the nineteenth increase since ONEOK became sole general partner 5 years ago, a 46% increase.

  • We've updated the Partnership's 2011 earnings guidance to a range of $630 million to $660 million to reflect higher-than-anticipated earnings in the Natural Gas Liquids segment. We increased our 2011 capital expenditure guidance to $1.3 billion to reflect the Partnership's purchase of the Bushton plant leased equipment for approximately $94 million, plus acceleration of G&P infrastructure projects in the Bakken Shale. This breaks down to $1.2 billion in growth capital and $102 million in maintenance capital.

  • We now estimate the Partnership's 2011 distributable cash flow to be in the range of $735 million to $765 million, compared with its previous range of $625 million to $675 million. We are still confident in the 3-year financial plan guidance on EBITDA and distribution growth we provided last October and expect to update that 3-year plan in September at our Investor Day. We will also release our 2012 financial guidance at that time.

  • We have hedges in place to lock in margins on our expected equity volumes in the Natural Gas Gathering and Processing segment, which is the most sensitive to commodity price changes. Our news release contains information on the updated hedges. At the end of the second quarter, the Partnership had $432.2 million in cash, and no commercial paper or other short-term borrowings, a debt to capital ratio of 54%, and a debt-to-EBITDA ratio of 3.85.

  • Earlier this week, ONEOK Partners entered into a new $1.2 billion revolving credit facility that expires in August 2016, expanding the capacity and flexibility of our previous agreement. Finally, we still do not anticipate any additional financing this year, but we'll continue to monitor the capital markets and be prepared to take advantage of any opportunities. Now, Terry will review the Partnership's operating performance.

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • Thanks, Rob, and good morning everyone. The Partnership had an exceptional second quarter. Operating income increased almost 40%, driven primarily by higher optimization margins in the Natural Gas Liquids segment, due to wider NGL price differentials between Conway and Mont Belvieu, due to increased fractionation and transportation capacity available for optimization activities. Earnings also increased as a result of contract renegotiations for some of our NGL exchange services activities, and higher isomerization margins in our NGL business, as well as higher commodity prices in the Natural Gas Gathering and Processing segment.

  • This morning, I will discuss our operating performance and updated 2011 guidance, discuss our outlook of the NGL markets, and close with a status report on our growth projects.

  • The Natural Gas Gathering and Processing segment's second-quarter financial results were higher than the same period in 2010, due to primarily to higher net realized commodity prices and changes in contract terms. We increased slightly this segment's operating income guidance for 2011, reflecting lower-than-expected gathering and processing volumes compared with our original 2011 guidance.

  • Offsetting the operating income reduction are higher earnings from our equity investments. We now expect processed volumes to be up 3% over last year and gathered volumes to be down 3% compared with last year. These estimates reflect adjustments in drilling schedules by a western Oklahoma producer, weather-related outages, and continued declines in the Powder River Basin of Wyoming, offset by volume growth in the Williston Basin and Cana-Woodford. The Powder River volumes represent approximately 12% of our total gathered volumes but generate less than 4% of our Gathering and Processing segment's net margin.

  • The Natural Gas Pipeline segment's second-quarter results were lower compared with the second quarter last year, due to increased operating expenses and lower transportation margins from narrower, regional natural gas price differentials that decreased interruptible volumes in contracted capacity on Midwestern gas transmission.

  • Northern Border's earnings were up more than 30%, as it maintained its competitive position by transporting Canadian-sourced supply to markets in the Midwestern United States. Most, if not all, of Northern Border's capacity is contracted through October 2012. We reduced this segment's operating income to reflect narrower natural gas price location differentials that have lowered the demand for interruptible transportation services on Midwestern, and on the balance of our transmission pipeline. We do expect higher earnings from our 50% interest in Northern Border pipeline.

  • Almost 85% of our wholly owned pipeline's subscribed capacity serves end users, such as natural gas distribution companies and electric generators that need gas to operate their businesses regardless of regional price differentials. Approximately 82% of our pipeline capacity and 100% of our storage capacity is contracted under firm, long-term contracts.

  • Our Natural Gas Liquids segment continues to benefit from more available fractionation and transportation capacity for optimization activities and favorable NGL price differentials.

  • Contract renegotiations associated with our exchange services activities and higher isomerization margins from wider price spreads between normal butane and isobutane also helped earnings. Excluding the impact from these favorable differentials, our base business exceeded our expectations.

  • We fractionated approximately 541,000 barrels per day, including barrels fractionated at the target facility from the fractionation-services agreement that began during the second quarter. We expect fractionation capacity to remain tight but gradually become more available as new frac capacity comes online over the next few years.

  • NGLs transported on our gathering lines were 432,000 barrels per day and exclude the Overland Pass volumes that were deconsolidated last September. If you back out the Overland Pass barrels for the second quarter of last year, NGL gathered volumes were up 15% and up 9%, compared with the first quarter as a result of increased volumes gathered on the Arbuckle Pipeline and in the Mid-Continent.

  • Arbuckle Pipeline volumes have increased to more than 160,000 barrels per day, versus current capacity of 180,000 barrels per day. That will increase to 240,000 barrels per day in 2012. We increased our operating income guidance for this segment significantly to reflect higher-than-expected NGL optimization margins from wider NGL price differentials and increased NGL transportation capacity available for our optimization activities. For the remainder of 2011, we have assumed a $0.15 per gallon Conway-to-Mont Belvieu average ethane price differential.

  • Now, an update on our projects. In May, we announced plans to build the 570-mile Sterling III Pipeline and the 75,000 barrel-per-day Mont Belvieu II fractionator, enabling us to serve the rapid NGL supply growth within our footprint. Producers continue to aggressively drill in a number of unconventional, NGL-rich resource plays in the Mid-Continent and Rockies. As a result, many new natural gas processing plants are being constructed in Oklahoma and the Texas Panhandle, to process NGL-rich natural gas that's being produced in the Cana-Woodford Shale, the Granite Wash, the Woodford Shale, and now the emerging Mississippian Lime formations.

  • Development also continues in the Rockies, specifically in the Bakken and Niobrara plays. Due to this strong supply growth, NGL prices in the Mid-Continent Market Center at Conway, Kansas are significant lower relative to prices at Mont Belvieu, Texas. Current NGL price differentials between Conway and Mont Belvieu for ethane exceed $0.20 per gallon. These wide differentials have steadily trended upward, climbing from about $0.03 per gallon in 2005 to more than $0.15 per gallon for much of this year.

  • Another factor driving the wide location price differential is strong ethane demands from the petrochemical sector, located primarily on the Gulf Coast, due to the price advantage ethane has had over other feed stocks. A number of petrochemical companies have announced additional heavy- to light-feed conversions, expansions of existing plants, and construction of new, world-scale petrochemical plants on the Gulf Coast that will add more than 400,000 barrels per day of incremental ethane fracking capacity by 2017.

  • Consequently, pipeline capacity between the 2 NGL market centers remains constrained. NGL producers need more capacity to accommodate their growing NGL volumes, and the producers supplying their plants continue to drill in NGL-rich plays. The current wide NGL price differential exceeds level necessary to support a new pipeline. As new capacity between Conway and Mont Belvieu has developed, we believe the price differentials will narrow considerably, possibly to the $0.08 to $0.10 per gallon range over the next few years. We believe that now is the ideal time to contract capacity on a new pipeline, while NGL price location differentials are high and demand for capacity is high.

  • Our existing Sterling I and II Pipelines, which transport NGL purity products, are near capacity today. And, our Arbuckle Pipeline, which transports unfractionated NGLs from the Mid-Continent to the Gulf Coast, is expected to approach its capacity in 2012. Our new Sterling III Pipeline will nearly double our existing NGL transportation capacity between Conway and Mont Belvieu and provide our NGL infrastructure with added flexibility, as all 3 Sterling Pipelines will be able to transport either unfractionated NGLs or purity NGL products.

  • The Mont Belvieu II fractionator is integral to our strategy of providing our customers with a full range of services. We received our air quality permit from the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality, and construction is now under way. We continue to secure supply commitments for both Sterling III and Mont Belvieu II and expect to have substantially all the available capacity committed well before these assets go into service.

  • Turning to our Bakken projects, we are investing approximately $1.5 billion to $1.8 billion to build 3 new 100 million cubic-feet-per-day natural gas processing plants and related infrastructure, and the 500-plus-mile, 60,000-barrel-per-day Bakken NGL pipeline, along with the expansions of the Bushton fractionator and the Overland Pass Pipeline. Despite flooding and highway restrictions, our projects remain on schedule. We expect our first processing plant, Garden Creek, to be in service by the end of this year and the Stateline I and II plants to be in service in 2012 and 2013, respectively.

  • The Bakken NGL pipeline is also on time and on budget, with engineering and design, right-of-way acquisition, and ground surveying moving ahead. In addition to growth projects we have already announced, we are continuing to evaluate a lengthy backlog of natural gas- and NGL-related infrastructure projects, including investments in natural gas pipelines, processing plants, and NGL storage facilities. John, that concludes my remarks.

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • Thank you, Terry. Now Rob will review ONEOK's financial performance, and then Pierce Norton will review ONEOK's operating performance. Rob?

  • Rob Martinovich - SVP, CFO and Treasurer

  • Thanks, John. ONEOK's second-quarter net income increased by 32%, driven primarily by the strong performance at ONEOK Partners. Operating costs were higher, primarily due to increased share-based compensation and other benefit costs. Share-based compensation costs include stock issued to employees and directors under the Company's long-term incentive plans and the employee stock award program that John mentioned, that awards of one share of stock each time ONEOK stock closes at or above and new $1 benchmark. Through the first 6 months of 2011, we have awarded an unprecedented 19 shares of stock at a cost of $8.9 million, a relatively small price to pay, we believe, for creating the additional shareholder value that John mentioned.

  • In May, ONEOK executed a $300 million accelerated share repurchase agreement with Barclays Capital. The repurchase will be funded by available cash and short-term borrowings. This repurchase is part of a $750 million share-repurchase program through 2013, with an annual maximum of $300 million, authorized by our Board last fall. Based on the repurchase of shares and the issuance of shares under our share-based compensation programs, we expect the average amount of diluted shares outstanding for 2011 to be approximately 107 million, a net decrease of approximately 1 million shares compared with the average for 2010.

  • ONEOK's year-to-date 2011 stand-alone cash flow, before changes in working capital, exceeded capital expenditures and dividend payments by $153.2 million. This includes the benefit of bonus depreciation, which will continue to benefit us through 2012. With the Partnership's updated 2011 distribution [leaven], ONEOK will receive approximately $333 million in distributions this year, a 10% increase over 2010. ONEOK's income taxes on the distributions from the LP units it owns are deferred, contributing to ONEOK's strong cash flow.

  • We also updated guidance for ONEOK in 2011. Net income is expected to be in the range of $325 million to $345 million, compared with its previous range of $325 million to $360 million. The updated guidance reflects higher anticipated earnings in the ONEOK Partners segment, offset partially by lower expected earnings in the Distribution and Energy Services segments.

  • Our updated, stand-alone cash flow, before changes in working capital, is expected to exceed capital expenditures and dividends by a range of $180 million to $210 million, versus our previous guidance range of $235 million to $275 million. The change reflects our revised ONEOK earnings guidance. The stand-alone cash flow includes the benefit from the bonus depreciation I mentioned earlier. We anticipate stand-alone cash flow, before changes in working capital, to exceed capital expenditures and dividends by a range of $150 million to $200 million per year over the next 3 years. Embedded within that expectation are the more aggressive dividend growth and the targeted payout ratio we provided last fall.

  • In July, we increased our dividend by $0.04 a share, which represents an 8% increase since the beginning of year and a 17% increase since last fall, when we announced plans to increase the dividend by 50% to 60% over a 3-year period, while maintaining a 60% to 70% payout ratio. ONEOK's liquidity position is very strong. At the end of the second quarter, on a stand-alone basis, we had $526.6 million of commercial paper outstanding, $45.4 million of cash and cash equivalents, $302.3 million of natural gas in storage, and $671.4 million available under our new credit facilities. Our stand-alone total-debt-to-capitalization ratio at June 30 was 42%. ONEOK's significant cash flow and excellent liquidity position continues to give us tremendous financial flexibility for dividend increases, share repurchases, purchasing additional ONEOK Partners units, and acquisitions. Now, Pierce will update you on ONEOK's operating performance.

  • Pierce Norton - COO, ONEOK

  • Thanks, Rob, and good morning, everyone. Let's start with our Distribution segment. Similar to the first quarter this year, second-quarter 2011 earnings were lower because of higher operating costs, primarily the share-based compensation costs previously mentioned. Because the Distribution segment has the most ONEOK employees, it was allocated the largest portion of these share-based compensation costs, which accounted for $5.5 million of the quarter-over-quarter operating expense increase, and more than $11 million of the year-to-date increase.

  • As John mentioned, absent these costs, the segment performed as we expected it would. Net margin was relatively unchanged compared to the same period last year. The Distribution segment operating income guidance for 2011 has been updated to $218 million to reflect the higher year-to-date share-based compensation and employee-related benefits cost. Our revenues for this segment remain strong and are on plan.

  • Now, our brief regulatory update. In July, the Oklahoma Corporation Commission approved Oklahoma Natural Gas' first annual performance-based rate filing. We had not sought any modifications to the customers' rates since our return on equity was within the range approved by the Commission. In May, the Commission also approved Oklahoma Natural Gas' energy-efficiency application, allowing us to recover cost and receive performance incentives for various energy-efficiency programs.

  • In Texas, the annual filing of our Gas Reliability Infrastructure Program, known as GRIP, was approved for $1.5 million in May for Austin jurisdiction, with new rates taking effect in June. We are waiting to hear from the city of El Paso on our $1.1 million GRIP filing there. Upon approval, these new rates would take effect in August.

  • We continue our efforts to grow our rate base by investing in projects that provide benefits to our customers and our shareholders. Year-to-date in 2011, the Distribution segment invested $109 million of capital, compared with a $78 million for the same period last year. The increase is due to the timing of routine construction activities in 2011, as well as the earlier installation of automated meters in 2011, compared with 2010. This year, we are reinvesting $25 million to install these automated meters. We've completed 50% of this year's planned installations in areas of Oklahoma and Texas. These meters are safer, more accurate, and more efficient and allow us a return on investments, creating a win-win for customers and the Company.

  • Now, let's turn to Energy Services. Our second-quarter results were lower compared with the same quarter in 2010, primarily because of lower transportation margins, net of hedging, due to lower hedge settlements in 2011 compared with 2010. In last year's first and second quarters, we benefited from the transportation hedges we placed in 2008, and earlier in 2009, when there was ample liquidity in the marketplace. Since then, liquidity and volatility have been extremely limited, and it is currently disadvantageous to us to place forward hedges. For the remainder of 2011, we have hedged approximately 41% of our transportation margins and 64% of our storage margins.

  • We expect the midpoint of our 2011 operating income to be $42 million, lower than our previous guidance of $91 million and the $75 million to $125 million range we expected for this business. This segment continues to face extraordinarily challenging market conditions that are the result of an increase in transportation pipeline capacity in recent years and abundance of supply of natural gas from the development of shale plays.

  • This has resulted in significantly narrowed location and seasonal storage differentials from where they had been in past years. In our initial guidance, we expected location spreads to widen to 2010 levels. But, in fact, they have narrowed, driven by market conditions. We are also experiencing lower seasonal storage spreads compared to those we had forecasted, given stronger supply growth and warmer-than-normal weather.

  • As I mentioned last quarter, we have a plan to help address these adverse market conditions. Here's where we stand on those efforts. Number 1, maintaining our existing premium-services customers and while adding new ones. We have retained more than 90% of our customers by maintaining a strong, long-term relationship. However, the fees we charge are lower, due to low prices of natural gas.

  • Number 2, maximizing earnings through effective optimization activities. With extremely low narrow location spreads and seasonal spreads, our opportunities to optimize in the daily marketplace have been somewhat limited. The spreads we're expecting are much tighter than we expected, which still allows for opportunities to optimize, but at lower margins. Regardless, we are looking for niche opportunities to do so every day.

  • Number 3, growing our market share with electric-generation customers. With the extreme heat in the central US, we, as are competitors, are actively selling gas to growing electric-generation customer base. We have been successful in this endeavor, but at a very competitive environment the margins are limited.

  • Number 4, work with producers to move their supply in constrained areas. Our efforts continue and have been successful. However, producers are focused on 2012 and 2013, not 2011.

  • We're also rebasing our cost structure -- assessing how much capacity we need to contract for, what we need, what we don't need, and where, and renegotiating transportation and storage rates whenever and wherever possible. By the end of 2012, more than 20% of our leased transportation and storage capacity will be up for renegotiation and more than 80% by 2015, giving us additional opportunities to realign our market positions and more importantly, rebase our cost structure. Rest assured that this management team is focused on doing what we can to adapt our strategy to these challenging market conditions. John, that concludes my remarks.

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • Thank you, Pierce. Some final comments before we take your questions. We've received a number of questions on the sale of Southern Union. What did we think of the proposed transactions? Could we, would we, submit a bid? And now that the transaction appears to have concluded, would we be interested in acquiring any of Southern Union's assets?

  • Here are the facts. We, along with a long list of others, have had several discussions with Southern Union management over the years about a potential transaction, with my last conversation being less than a week before the initial transaction announcement. And yes, we were prepared to submit a competing bid before the first counteroffer was made. However, as the price of the transaction increased, it did not make economic sense for us. Simply put, our current growth and future opportunities at ONEOK Partners are more accretive than acquiring Southern Union at the prices being contemplated.

  • At the right price, Southern Union would have been a great fit for us. Is it a good deal as now proposed? That's for the management of the other parties involved in the transaction to answer. As you know, we are a disciplined buyer of assets and measure acquisition opportunities against our other growth alternatives, which for us, are our current and future internal growth projects from a return and value-creation standpoint, as well as a strategic fit. Having said that, if certain Southern Union assets become available for purchase, we are interested.

  • The final point I'd like to touch on involves a recent and unwelcome change in our corporate governance at ONEOK. ONEOK is incorporated in the state of Oklahoma, and we recently learned that the Oklahoma legislature, in 2010, passed last-minute legislation requiring all large, publicly traded companies incorporated in Oklahoma to have classified or staggered boards of directors. As a result, the directors of ONEOK have been classified automatically by the Oklahoma statute into 3 classes with staggered terms.

  • This law runs counter to the wishes of our Board and our shareholders. In 2008, our Board recommended, and our shareholders overwhelmingly approved, the elimination of our classified Board, and the institution of the annual election of directors. Despite the Oklahoma law change, we continue to believe that the annual election of directors is good governance and that companies should be able to work with their shareholders to determine which board structure is appropriate.

  • Obviously, we are disappointed that the legislature took this action and did so in a manner that did not afford us, as the largest publicly-traded company in the state, the opportunity to participate in a debate regarding the advisability of this legislation. I have spoken to Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin twice about the issue, and she said she is committed to working with ONEOK and the Oklahoma legislature to resolve this situation. This legislation, by the way, was passed before Governor Fallin became governor. We will keep you updated on our progress.

  • And finally, as always, I'd like to thank our 4,800 employees, who create value every day for our investors and customers through their dedication and commitment to excellence. Our success as a Company depends upon their contributions, and I appreciate their efforts. We are now ready to take your questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Stephen Maresca, Morgan

  • Stephen Maresca - Analyst

  • Thanks, John, very much for the Southern Union candor. That is quite appreciated. I want to talk a little bit about the differential and the bottlenecks that are going on in the NGL market. And you stated that we're currently at $0.20 or $0.22 right now, but you look at the rest of the year and factor in a $0.15 number. And is that more conservatism on your part, or do you really think it will be that quickly -- it'll start to alleviate?

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • Well, I think Terry probably in the best position to answer that question for us.

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • Steve, when we look at -- we look forward at our spreads, our view is is that as you, and the way the industry works, is that as you move into the fourth quarter, you will start to historically see that spread compress. And, as you get into the last couple of months of the year, you'll see things like petrochemical companies destocking their inventory and doing things to manage their books. And so that's pretty normal. When you look at -- so when we look at where we are today in that $0.22, $0.23 range, we'll gradually see that decline as we move into the year. Our view is that will average out about $0.15.

  • Stephen Maresca - Analyst

  • Okay. And then you mentioned that you think, longer term, we could settle on some sort of high, single-digit level. How long do you think it takes for us to get to that?

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • Well, I think that what you're going to see, over 2012 and 2013, is you'll see that ethane spread probably in that $0.12 a $0.13 a gallon range. But then in 2014, when our Sterling III capacity comes online, we'll see compress it the $0.08 to $0.10 range.

  • Stephen Maresca - Analyst

  • Okay. And then as you see forecast right now for producers, do you think there's enough been proposed between yourself and a DCP in terms of takeaway to bring down to the Gulf on the NGL side?

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • I think -- is your question supply?

  • Stephen Maresca - Analyst

  • Yes. Do you think we have enough takeaway capacity being proposed right now with all the supply that you see from producers?

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • Probably the simple answer to that question is there room for two pipes? I think the answer to that question is yes, based upon the supply picture that we see. We see 250,000 barrels a day plus potentially being developed from new processing plants. Much of that is currently under development. So, I think there is going to be room for two pipes. I will say that we believe our type is advantaged for a number of reasons. I think the DCP pipe, I think there's room for that pipe, but I think their pipe will be very focused on their own equity production. So, short answer is yes, I think there's room for two pipes.

  • Stephen Maresca - Analyst

  • Okay. And final question, and I will get back in queue. Maybe for John, just bigger picture with the free cash flow story at OKE, and the color that you said around the Southern Union. Do you think there are other opportunities like a Southern Union out there? Or do you view this as something that kind of came along, once every -- whatever -- many years, several years?

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • I think once every is a pretty good description. There are other opportunities out there. And as the facts have unfolded, it becomes no surprise as presented that many people were in discussions with Southern Union. There are other companies that many of us are in discussion with, and you just have to, as part of the process, stay in touch with those that you think might be good fits for acquisition in the future so that when the conditions are right, you are advantaged and prepared to transact. So, yes, we keep an eye on that always.

  • Stephen Maresca - Analyst

  • Okay. Thanks a lot, everybody.

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • Thank you, Steve.

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • Thanks, Steve.

  • Operator

  • Ted Durbin, Goldman Sachs.

  • Ted Durbin - Analyst

  • Not to beat on the Conway-Belvieu spreads, but can you give us a sense of maybe a sensitivity? You said $0.15. What's the dollar impact if that spread moves by say $0.01? Because you put up obviously a big number, and I'm just wondering if you thought about that.

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • Well, we thought about it, and I think, that it's difficult for us to give you a sensitivity because it is accommodation of supply and capacity. So, if you think about it, we had opportunities to make these spreads, when was that -- a year ago? But we had capacity in our fractionator tied up under what I would call under-market fractionation agreements, so we didn't have the capacity to capture this. So, the amount of -- the ability to capture the differential depends upon, obviously, the demand, but also the ability of the assets to have the capacity to transact. So, there isn't a good way to provide that to you, and we are never going to be able to. Anything you want to add there, Terry?

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • John, really, the only thing I think I'd add that in the past, we've gotten that question, and we've resisted disclosing how much capacity that we allocate. We have total capacity down the pipe of a number, and only a portion of that capacity we actually use for optimization. And so, we've resisted, in the past, for competitive reasons, disclosing the information and we're still there. Maybe someday we'll disclose it [the matrix], but today, no.

  • Ted Durbin - Analyst

  • Maybe someday somebody will ask the question so that you'll actually answer it.

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • We answered it.

  • Ted Durbin - Analyst

  • No, I understand. I appreciate it. And maybe coming in on the organic growth side, as you kind of look across, and maybe even dive into the different projects, you've given this range of 5 times to 7 times EBITDA. Are projects looking like they're going to come in at the low end or the high end of that range?

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • I think we're -- the ones that we have completed, is the one you're talking about. The ones we can look back on.

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • Yes, I think when we look back at it, we're probably in the middle.

  • Ted Durbin - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • Probably. Yes, if I think on some of the look-backs that we've recently done, we're going to be in the middle of that range. I don't think it's leaning toward one side or the other

  • Ted Durbin - Analyst

  • As you're progressing with the existing ones, same answer?

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • Say that again, Ted?

  • Ted Durbin - Analyst

  • As you're progressing -- as you're going through some of the other projects, as we look into 2012 and whatnot, still feeling like you're going to hit the middle of that range?

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • Yes, we may get closer to the low end of the range on some of these projects.

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • I think we'll get closer to the low end, provided that we continue to learn from our past experience. We would have been at the lower end of that multiple range had we been more successful with some of our construction costs. But, we had -- we don't need to repeat all the past, but we have learned a lot about weather and sage grouse and dealing with the government, and we've changed the way we approach our projects. And we believe that we'll be towards the lower end because of that knowledge.

  • Ted Durbin - Analyst

  • Okay, that's helpful. Thanks. And the last one for me is, at the OKE level, the dividend rates here, again, a nice strong raise. It looks to me like you're at the top end of your payout ratio target if I just kind of analyze your current dividend. Are you raising the dividend a little bit in anticipation of where 2012 is going to come out? Just a little guidance on what you're doing there.

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • Well, you know, we got a new CFO. I'm sorry, Rob.

  • Rob Martinovich - SVP, CFO and Treasurer

  • Ted, that dividend had been anticipated subject to Board approval. So, that's -- we were just executing on that and I think you're right with regards to your analysis being in the upper range there. So, that -- two parts. One, everything was falling into place, and so no reason not to continue with our -- the previous guidance.

  • Ted Durbin - Analyst

  • Got you. That's it for me. Thanks.

  • Operator

  • Yves Siegel, Credit Suisse.

  • Yves Siegel - Analyst

  • If I could just to go back and then go forward. To go back, in terms of guidance for the rest of the year, when we think about the optimization, so we know $0.15 is the assumed spread. Are you assuming that you still have the same amount of capacity allocated for optimization in the second half of the year?

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • Yes.

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • Yes.

  • Yves Siegel - Analyst

  • Okay. The second question is, as it relates to the thinking about pricing fractionation services, can you give us a sense of on a per-gallon basis, where that market is moving to? And, well, I'll just leave it at that.

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • Well, I mean I can give you a range, but it depends, too, on the specific need of the producer and the producer-specific situation and whether that producer is also securing pipeline transportation capacity as well as fractionation. But I can give you a range. It's somewhere in that $0.04 to $0.05 a gallon range for frac is pretty much the market. And, it's inching higher, but you've got these new fracs that have been announced, and I think that's probably helping to keep it from going significantly higher.

  • Yves Siegel - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • So, dependent upon where you are, it is going to be $0.04 to $0.05 a gallon, pretty consistently.

  • Yves Siegel - Analyst

  • Okay. For you to allocate more of your capacity away from optimization, one would assume that you would need something substantially higher than $0.05 a gallon in order to do that.

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • Well, when we think about optimization, we think about transportation capacity between Conway and Bellevue. And so, we look at that. We try not to get any sort of cross-subsidy between fractionation and pipeline capacities. So when we look at pipeline capacity, we look at the spreads. We look at the cost to build is probably the bigger factor in setting a North-South rate. So what will happen is as we increase our contracting on Sterling III as we move forward -- as we increase our contracting, we will displace and squeeze down that optimization capacity.

  • Yves Siegel - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • Does that help you?

  • Yves Siegel - Analyst

  • No, it does. So, getting back to John's commentary on the acquisition market, what characteristics do you think are required to see additional acquisitions? By that I mean one could argue that maybe Southern Union was management getting older in deciding to cash out. Others would be, perhaps, somebody gets into liquidity problems, so they're forced to sell. What kind of conditions do you think are going to push us to see further acquisitions going forward?

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • Well, in addition to those that you mentioned, I think it continues to be looking at, if you will let me use this word, potential targets that fit, in our case, our business model, so companies that have distribution assets as well as MLP-qualified assets. And our bet is that in discussing with those managements, we can deliver greater shareholder value by having those assets a part of the ONEOK family as opposed to where they currently reside.

  • Now, that's pretty subjective, and it's obviously not necessarily always welcomed. But those are some of the criteria that we're looking for. And then of course, yes, you talk about more opportunistic, keep an eye on the thermometer, and see whether or not people are healthy or unhealthy, which we do as well, but the key thing for us, in the screening process, is first deciding who fits our model.

  • Yves Siegel - Analyst

  • Just to push it, John, from my sense, I understand from your perspective, but you also have to have -- you don't necessarily have to have a willing seller, but it seems to me that it's being more motivated from the buyer side of the equation than necessarily from the seller side in terms of future acquisitions above and beyond what we're seeing with Southern Union.

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • I can tell you from personal experience over the last five years that it is absolutely correct.

  • Yves Siegel - Analyst

  • Okay. Thanks for that, John. And then the last question gets to risk management and how do you -- and you've gone over this before so I apologize, but how do you think about potential over-building going forward? And, within that context, how are you trying to structure your contracts so you don't have everybody hitting the wall at the same time, having to renegotiate contracts?

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • Primarily through term and commitment towards our capital investment, and we're willing to give up, if you will, capacity that we might use for optimization to get that assurance. So, as Terry mentioned in I think part one of your question, or somebody's question, we're willing to trade optimization capacity for fixed, fee-based earnings relative to our investment.

  • Yves Siegel - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • Thanks, Yves.

  • Operator

  • Ross Payne, Wells Fargo.

  • Ross Payne - Analyst

  • I guess the biggest question I've got was factoring DCP's new pipeline, NGL pipeline, is first and foremost, how much of DCP's volumes are currently moving on your pipelines NGL-wise? And how do you see the transition, if and when that happens, to their new pipeline that they proposed --?

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • Yves -- Ross, I'm sorry. Ross, we're not going to -- we won't get into talking specifically about customers that we may have and their volumes. But what I can say about that pipeline is they will, over a period time, gradually move some of their -- increase their movement, equity volumes they own on that pipeline. Okay? So, there will be -- that will be, from what we can tell, their primary driver. Okay?

  • We'll be focused on moving third-party barrels, providing our full, integrated, enhanced connectivity. We'll be in a position to provide a full range of services for our customers. So, when I look at that project, it's very -- and I look at DCPs pipeline -- it's very equity-volume focused. We'll be very focused on third parties. And we believe we will be advantaged, primarily because our long history, our reliable operating history.

  • Ross Payne - Analyst

  • Okay. And, so you expect to obviously more than make up for that over time as those volumes roll off and go into your pipelines?

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • Ross, I think what Terry's telling you is that in our plans for Sterling III, we do not anticipate DCP barrels.

  • Ross Payne - Analyst

  • Okay. Perfect.

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • So, DCP is kind of on their own.

  • Ross Payne - Analyst

  • Got you. Okay. That's great. Thanks, guys.

  • Operator

  • Craig Shere, Tuohy Brothers.

  • Dan Harrison - VP Investor Relations and Public Affairs

  • Craig, if we can limit -- and the rest of the people in the queue -- to one question so we can get to everyone, that would be terrific.

  • Craig Shere - Analyst

  • I have a bad reputation. Actually, Ross hit the question I wanted to discuss, so you can move on. I appreciate it.

  • Operator

  • John Tyson, Citigroup.

  • John Tyson - Analyst

  • Hi, guys. Just one quick, fundamental, kind of broader question. How does increasing propane exports out of the Gulf Coast impact the Conway market relative to Mont Belvieu market? Have you seen any changes in the market since that's been happening? And, does that put -- maybe offset your thought that the basis between the two basis comes back down?

  • Terry Spencer - COO

  • Well, certainly it does have an impact, but not a major impact. And what -- the big driver, when you look at the Conway to Belvieu basis, is not so much imports or exports out of Belvieu. It's more seasonal as it relates to Conway. How hard a pull that you're going to get in the Conway marketplace and how that impacts the spread. The spread is going to be primarily driven by ethane. Okay? That's the product that's taking up the most capacity moving south. Propane, not as significant. So, the import export will have some impact, but not like seasonal impact will have on the propane spread.

  • John Tyson - Analyst

  • Thanks, Terry.

  • Operator

  • Michael Blum, Wells Fargo.

  • Michael Blum - Analyst

  • Thanks. My question was answered. Thank you.

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • Thank you, Michael.

  • Operator

  • Andrew Gundlach, First Eagle Investment.

  • Andrew Gundlach - Analyst

  • John, let me flip the question around. One of the things that's obviously driving SUG's sale is that may be disadvantaged with respect to maintaining market share in a more shale oriented environment. And you could say the same things about your pipelines in some ways, and you're seeing it in the results. So, while you might be interested in buying assets for sale, might you also be interested in selling assets if these are the prices being paid for pipelines that may or may not be competitively advantaged?

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • Well, I think that's true for any asset that you own, that you have to always be aware of the position of those assets in the marketplace, and the best example I can think of are Powder River gathering systems as an example. But you got to have somebody that's interested in buying them at a decent price. But yes, absolutely, Andrew.

  • Andrew Gundlach - Analyst

  • And is the MLP structure, is it make it -- from a tax perspective, mostly, but others maybe I'm not thinking of -- is it easy to sell things where -- if the price were there, are these assets easily sold?

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • Well, we've been able to buy. I mean we bought assets into the MLP from other MLPs. So our counter-parties work through that issue. I think it makes it more complex. But I think it is doable. It's achievable.

  • Andrew Gundlach - Analyst

  • Thanks for taking the question.

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • You bet.

  • Operator

  • Carl Kirst, BMO Capital.

  • Carl Kirst - Analyst

  • Thanks, good morning everybody, and very much appreciate the time here. Last question I have with everything is at the OKE level on energy services, and understanding that you guys don't want to comment on 2012, is anything hedged at this point for 2012 on either the transportation or the storage front?

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • Pierce?

  • Pierce Norton - COO, ONEOK

  • Yes, we do have some storage hedged in 2012. Not quite as much as we do in -- it's around 43% in storage and around 20% in transport.

  • Carl Kirst - Analyst

  • And would those have been like recent hedges? Or perhaps maybe it spreads from late 2010, for instance?

  • Pierce Norton - COO, ONEOK

  • They've been more back in time and they were put on over a period of time.

  • Carl Kirst - Analyst

  • Great. Thanks, guys.

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • You bet, Carl.

  • Operator

  • Jack Moore, Harpswell Capital.

  • Jack Moore - Analyst

  • I think most of my questions are answered. But, while I have you, I was wondering if you can comment on legislation in Oklahoma regarding directors and just how that came about. I think on Chesapeake's call, they indicated that they were consulted and played a role, to some degree, in it, and I was wondering were you guys cognizant of the bill being developed and what your thoughts are on it going forward.

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • Well I made some comments earlier about that legislation. So to answer your question directory, we were not consulted. And the legislation was put together in the last few hours of the legislation, and we were not consulted.

  • Jack Moore - Analyst

  • Okay. Thanks, guys. Good quarter.

  • John Gibson - Chairman, President, and CEO

  • Yes. Thank you very much.

  • Dan Harrison - VP Investor Relations and Public Affairs

  • Well, thank you, everyone. This concludes the ONEOK and ONEOK Partners call. As a reminder, our quiet period for the third quarter will start when we close our books in early October and will extend until earnings are released after the market closes on November 1. Our third-quarter conference call is scheduled for November 2. We will provide additional third-quarter conference call information at a later date.

  • The annual ONEOK, ONEOK Partners investor day is scheduled for Tuesday, September 27 in New York. Several save-the-date notices have already been mailed to you, and we'll be following up with additional information, times, and meeting-room locations in the next few weeks. Andrew Ziola and I will be available throughout the day to handle your follow-up questions. Thanks for joining us.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's presentation. You may now disconnect.