OceanFirst Financial Corp. (OCFC) 2026 Q2 法說會逐字稿

So the OceanFirst, second quarter 2026 earnings call. I'm Alfred Goon, SVP of Corporate Development and Investor Relations. Before we kick off the call, we'd like to remind everyone that our quarterly earnings release and related earnings supplement can be found on the company website, oceanfirst.com. Our remarks today may contain forward-looking statements and and may refer to non-GAAP financial measures. All participants should refer to our SEC filings for a complete discussion of forward-looking statements and associated risk factors. Thank you, and now I will turn the call over to Christopher Maher, Chief Executive Officer of OceanFirst .

Thank you, Alfred, good morning and thank you to all who've been able to join our second quarter of 2026 earnings conference call. This morning, I'm joined by our President, Joseph J. Lebel III, and our Chief Financial Officer Patrick S. Barrett. We appreciate your interest in our performance and this opportunity to discuss our results with you this morning, we will provide brief remarks about the financial and operating performance for the quarter and some color regarding the outlook for our business, we may refer to the slides filed in connection with the hearings released throughout the call. After our discussion, we look forward to taking your questions.

We reported second quarter results that reflect the closing of our transformational acquisition of Flushing Financial Corporation on June 1st. On a GAAP basis, we reported a net loss of $0.04 per fully diluted share, which was driven by $0.47 per share, or $33.6 million of non-recurring merger-related expenses net of taxes. On a core basis which excludes nonrecurring items. Earnings per share was $0.43 or $30.5 million, Unchanged the prior quarter and up 39% from the prior year. Pre-tax, pre-provision core earnings grew by 29% from the prior quarter to $44.5 million. We've seen quarterly improvement in the company's performance in the second quarter of 2025 in net interest income, net interest margin, and return on average assets. This highlights our multi-quarter journey from our revenue generating investments as we continue to improve towards peer profitability levels. This week our board also approved the quarterly cash dividend of $0.20 per common share, marking the company's 118th consecutive quarterly cash dividend. As mentioned previously, we complete our acquisition of Flushing Financial Corporation on June 1st. Concurrent with the $225 million strategic investment from Warburg Pincus, which was priced at $19.76 per share. Flushing out at approximately $8.7 billion in total assets, $5 billion in loans and $7.4 billion in deposits, along with 30 retail branches across New York City and Long Island, bringing our combined franchise to approximately $23 billion in assets.

We're thrilled to welcome the Flushing team and their customers to the Ocean family. We also repositioned our balance sheet by selling $1.3 billion of multi-family loans acquired from Flushing, which eliminated the majority of our exposure to New York City rent regulated properties and reduced the bank's commercial real estate concentration by approximately 50% points to 381%. The proceeds were reinvested into the highly liquid investment grade securities. Integration planning is well underway, and we anticipate full integration of Flushing's operations and systems, including the systems conversion and rebranding by the end of the 3rd quarter of 2026. We're confident in the strategic and financial rationale of this combination, and we are already seeing competitive wins in both talent and customer acquisition. We remain on track due the cost savings and returns outlined at the transaction announcement. A significant portion of our cost saves is expected shortly following systems conversion. Pat will provide additional details on the financial impact of the transaction in his remarks. We remain focused on executing our organic growth strategy, which continues to be reflected in our underlying results this quarter, while also approaching the integration of flushing with a sense of urgency. I'm proud of the pace at which our staff is moving related to both organic initiatives and the flushing integration.

At this point, I'll turn the call over to Joseph J. Lebel III for additional color on these businesses.

Thanks, Chris.

I'll start with loan originations for the quarter, which totaled $642 million, an increase of 50% from the prior quarter. Excluding the impact of the Flushing acquisition and the multi-family loan sale underlying commercial organic loan growth was approximately $154 million, or 2% from the prior quarter, reflecting the company's focus on core relationships, these results underscore the continued strength of the core growth initiatives which the Flushing franchise will further bolster. The C&I business grew 8% on an annualized basis. Reflecting the continued momentum from our recruitment efforts in 2024 and 2025. We've recruited another 17 C&I bankers so far in 2026, and we'll continue to be opportunistic with hiring efforts throughout the remainder of the year. Total deposits grew by $6.6 billion during the quarter to $17.8 billion. Driven by the $7.4 billion of deposits acquired from Flushing. Excluding flushing, deposits declined modestly, primarily due to seasonal outflows in government deposits and a reduction in broker deposits. Positively we did see a 6% increase in non-interest-bearing deposits.

Premier Bank deposits grew by $150 million. While the cost of deposits dropped by 17 basis points. Non-interest-bearing deposits cross the $100 million dollar mark during the quarter. The group now manages 426 clients and 1,879 accounts and continues to build its momentum. As an added benefit, the premier teams contributed $45 million loan originations for the quarter. Customer engagement and calling activity has been significant, and the addition of Flushing's branch footprint throughout New York City and Long Island now provides a tailwind moving forward. We remain confident in our 2026 deposit targets, and I've recently added 2 new premier teams in Manhattan and Long Island.

I wanted to add a brief summary of our calling efforts to date with the Flushing teams in the commercial and retail segments of their market. Clients and notable centers of influence in all segments of the business have been welcoming. They are optimistic that we can continue to support their needs while using the scale of the combined company to grow with them. In some cases, in the commercial banks specifically Grow exponentially. Recent visits in Asian communities specifically have surfaced several significant loan and deposit opportunities in both C&I and CRE. Lastly, non-interest income was up almost $10.6 million during the quarter, up from $6.7 million in the prior quarter. Excluding non-core items and Flushing's contribution of $1.4 million. Other income increased $2.5 million. Primarily driven by higher net gains on other real estate activity and commercial loan swap income. Overall, non-interest income levels were in line with our expectations.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Patrick S. Barrett to review the remaining areas of the quarter.

Thanks, Joseph, good morning, everyone, we delivered our eighth consecutive quarter of net interest income growth, which increased $24 million or 25% from the prior quarter, $33 million, or 38% from the prior year. This performance was driven by the addition of Flushing, which contributed $19 million, increased reflective earning asset growth. Net interest margin expanded 12 basis points to 3.05%. Loan yields increased reflecting new originations and the net impact of adding the flashing portfolio. Total deposit cost 2.06%, reflecting the addition of Flushing deposit base, looking ahead, we expect net interest income to benefit further from a full quarter of the combined franchise. Our underlying asset quality remains strong. Reported shows this quarter reflect the fair value marks on Flushing's acquired loans, including purchased credit deteriorated loans, which elevated our reported non-performing and criticized loan levels, but are not indicative of underlying credit deterioration. Excluding acquired credit deteriorated loans, non-performing loans to total loans were 0.33%, and non-performing assets, total assets were 0.38%. Both consistent with our historically low levels. Criticized and classified lungs did increase to 3.12% of total loans impacted by the Flushing acquisition but still remain below peer averages.

The increase in criticized and classified loans was driven by the application of ocean first credit rating methodology to the Flushing portfolio, which bears repeating, does not reflect a deterioration in credit performance. We have no inherent concerns in the pro forma customer base. Our allowance for credit losses increased to 1.29% of total loans. Primarily reflecting the day one reserve established for the Flushing portfolio. Net charge-offs were de minimis representing only 5 basis points of average total loans on an annualized basis.

Turning to expenses, GAAP operating expenses for the quarter were $130 million, including $43 million of merger related expenses on a core basis, operating expense of $87 million, included approximately $15 million of 1 month of flushing operations. Excluding Flushing, our core expense base of $72 million continued to reflect disciplined expense management across the company. Capital levels remain strong following the acquisition with an estimated common equity tier 1 ratio of 10.7% flat to the previous quarter. That capital position was supported by the $225 million strategic investment from Warburg Pincus funded concurrently with the closing of the Flushing transaction. Tangible book value per share was $18.19, reflecting the impact of purchase counting and the very substantial increase in our allowance for credit losses. Quick word on taxes, our reported effective tax rate this quarter was impacted by non-deductible merger expenses and a one-time for tax revaluation related to the acquisition. On a normalized basis, our ETR was approximately 28%. Given our new profile taxability, we expect our go forward rate to remain around that level absent any tax policy changes for the near term.

With the flushing acquisition now closed, we're updating our guidance on the pro forma combined company for the remainder of 2026. For loans and deposits, we expect 1% to 2% growth from our June 30th levels by year end. Net interest margin should continue to expand to a range of 307 to 312 in Q3 and 309 to 314 in Q4, subject to average balance, seasonal volatility, and with no rate changes modeled through the second half of the year. We expect other income of $12 million to $16 million per quarter. We expect operating expenses for the 3rd quarter to decline to the $120 million to $125 million dollar range, declining further in the fourth quarter to $110 million to $115 million as cost savings begin to be realized. As we complete the integration of Flushing and mature our efforts to apply AI-driven automation, we expect that operating leverage will continue to improve throughout 2027.

Finally, capital is expected to remain strong and grow with earnings from the current level. We plan to provide detailed guidance for 2027 in the fourth quarter, but I just wanted to highlight that our 2027 profitability targets remain essentially unchanged from when we announced the Flushing deal. One last point, just to talk about consensus estimates. Well, there's a fair amount of variability among individual analysts and line items within our financials, on average, the earnings estimates look reasonable and should be generally aligned with our outlook for the second half of the year and for next year, both of which again, remain consistent with our initial estimates at the time we announced the transaction. At this point, begin the question-and-answer portion of the call.

We will now begin the question-and-answer portion of the call.

Peter Winter, D.A Davidson.

Thanks, good morning, I wanted to start on the morning, I wanted to start on the margin. The outlook for the second half of the year assumes no rate changes, but can you talk about how your position, if we do get 1 or 2 rate hikes, and then second, on page 9 of the presentation, you mentioned that, due to competitive pressures, it could pressure the margin, and then if you could just elaborate on that, and is that contemplated in the margin guidance for the second half of this year.

Sure, maybe I'll take a quick shot, this is pat, it's the impact of rate hikes. So when we, combine the organization, we absorbed Flushing's, liability sensitivity with our relative neutrality on interest rates, it was just kind of the shape of where the balance sheets were in respect, we added hedges to that that kind of brought us back into a more neutral rate position. So we're modeling something that's modestly liability sensitive, so, a rate hike would be very modestly Diluted, if you will, to revenue. I'd say that. From a 25 basis point rate hike. On an annual basis would be about a $5 million pre-tax impact to revenues. Conversely, if we got a rate cut, which nobody's modeling, but if we did. Because of our liabilities, modest liability sensitivity, that would be about a $4 million a year run rate. So we remain relatively neutral, I think the as important, if not more so as what happens in the belly of the curve and what happens with 5 and 10 year rates, for new originations and renewals because I think, Most most people would agree that we're fairly elevated. Levels for those, we like the shape of the curve, so if there's a parallel increase in the curve. We're kind of indifferent to rate hikes or cuts. And then you'd, second part of your question was competitive pressure. I think that's just a continuous pressure on, pricing for new loans, particularly the kind of loans that we're considering, so the, both bank and nonbank pressures are keeping spreads on new loans at pretty historically tight levels, Joseph, do you want to add to that?

I think it's a fair statement. we've seen an increase and a focus on our, construction business, which tends to have better money in the latest quarter, the average yield is pushing 670, 672, which I think is, indicative of us focusing on construction and C&I versus, permanent CRE loans.

Got it. If I could ask on credit, any guidance maybe you can provide with regards to net charge-offs or or provision expense in the back half of this year. And then also in the press release, it mentioned, a $21 million commercial realis, real, commercial relationship that went non-performing, and then 2 commercial relationships for $56 million that went to criticize, just any details on those loans?

So I guess I'll give you just some sense on that charge-offs I think is the company gets.

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Sorry about that, so do you think about charge-offs, I mean historically, both Ocean First and Flushing it, close to 5 basis points and 0 and charge-offs in any given quarter, I think our business shifts to more C&I lending, you're going to see that it won't be unusual to have, charge-offs from quarter to quarter, but I don't think they're going to be a material impact on profitability, so, slightly higher than our historical performance, but nothing that would stand out or be unusual, and probably still well at or below the kind of peer group level of net charge-offs, I'm sorry, Peter, your second question was on the, criticized loan. Let me just ask Joe to cover that for you.

Yeah, Peter, on the $21 million loan, the bank and the borrower have a plan in place, we believe we're well secured, we have updated appraisals, and I expect that that'll resolve itself before the end of the year, either through an upgrade or a refinance, and I. We're well informed on our large borrowers.

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Okay, sorry for that, interruption again, Peter, I think we were on the, classified mode, I just want you to, take that from the top again and walk through that.

Right, so he started with the $21 million commercial.

(inaudible) That resolved the urine we have a plan in place, the borrower in the bank, we expect that that will be resolved for the end of the year either through an upgrade or a refinance, and then on the other assets you referenced and criticized class or criticized, downgrades come and go quarter-over-quarter, we're well aware of what we need to do on both sides of the house, and we remain pretty confident, and, I'll leave it at that.

Okay. And then just one quick housekeeping, just, you mentioned with the, expense guidance for the third quarter, there's the one-time expense associated with the new digital banking platform, how much is that?

It's not significant, it's probably $2 million.

Got it, okay, thanks for taking the question

we're continuing funding our ongoing platform investments out of our kind of, our core run rate. Which still is hovering kind of at the $70-ish million a quarter, right.

Got it. Thanks, Pat.

David bishop, Hovde Group.

Thank you, good morning, gentlemen, hey, quick follow-up on the net interest margin, in terms of the guidance, do you think that's going to be mostly driven from earning asset yield improvement or, still room to move on the deposit side or maybe a combination of both, just curious how you see that rise sort of occurring.

It's definitely both, we've got opportunities to improve our funding base and even bigger opportunities with Flushing's funding base as we move forward and kind of redeploy some of the extra liquidity that we have today. So there's really good opportunity on the funding side, on the yield side. I think it kind of depends on the mix and competitive pressures. The more Construction and small business that we do, the better. From a straight yield perspective, C&I, which carries with it a lot of other opportunities and self funding. It obviously has, super tight spreads, and, it is. Probably the most competitive space, right now.

Got it, then in terms of the multi-family loan sold there, just curious, is there still, sort of a banking relationship with those customers, or is that been completely divested?

That's a great question, Dave, no, we actually sorted out the primary relationships in that and retained loans for that exact reason, so, we retained loans where we had primary relationships and strong deposit profiles, and those customers typically had pretty strong cash flow, so that, that's one of the ways we kind of split out what we wanted to keep and what we wanted to move away from, so, we don't think that'll have any impact on the other areas of the bank, but for the most part, the loans that we sold were lending only relationships.

Got it, appreciate the color.

Alright, thanks Dave.

Daniel Tamayo, Raymond James.

Thank you. Good morning, guys. So to go back and I apologize for being a dead horse here, but, so you reiterated your, the guidance for the 320 margin in 2027, post merger there. I guess, Can you give us your deposit cost assumptions underlying that margin in 2027? It just seems like most banks are talking about, and then you guys mentioned as well, like competition being pretty Stiff right now on the funding side. A lot of banks are talking about the funding cost bottoming. I get you guys have the Flushing, funding base to integrate, but, just curious how that plays out, maybe there's some color on the flushing, so the components that how you can, lower that, but just trying to get filling the gap between maybe funding cost going down where others are saying they're bottoming or maybe even moving up.

I think it's on both sides, Danny, it's, Chris Maher, both sides you're going to see a little bit more of a mixed shift than you are kind of environmental trends, so both on the loan side, as mentioned, kind of beefing up, historically Ocean First has done a nice job around construction, so we have an opportunity to do a little more of that moving with the extra balance sheet from Flushing, and then on the deposit side, a mix shift around products, so the pressure you see out in the markets and others have talked about is out there. CDs cost a fair amount, but, we're talking about bringing down the level of broker, we're talking about optimizing, pricing in the government deposit base, particularly in, New York, the New York government deposit bases, cost a fair amount more than the New Jersey government deposit base.

We see some tactical opportunities there, but think Mixed shift in product, and as you saw, we had a nice increase in non-interest-bearing this quarter, Flushing's done a nice job historically over the last several quarters around non-interest, so kind of leaning into that new branch network and, doing a little bit of a mixture.

All right, thanks for that, Chris, so I guess next, just on the expenses, want to make sure I understand the guidance, so I think you said it was $2 million for the digital banking, the one timers within the guy that you put out there, Pat, so as we think about kind of back half years, is that, is the way to think about that, just taking $2 million off of the $110million to $115million, or it just from a kind of run rate end of the year number, like, is it $108million to $113million in the fourth quarter and then that's a good number to grow off of?

Yeah, I'd rather think of expenses is a good number to shrink off of as we exit this year because just remember that the majority of our cost savings are only just kicking in the fourth quarter. Because of our system conversions that won't be fully completed until the end of the quarter, so there's some cost savings that occur. The biggest chunk of those will be, will start in the 4th quarter, and then there's continued opportunities to further rationalize vendors as as we move into next year, so I would hope that we're on a glide path to continue to bring it down a little bit, even in the face of inflationary pressures, and See us with the run rate that's closer to $100million than $110million as we start out the year.

A good way to think about the expense momentum is, in Q3 we had some employee separations related to the initial consolidation in the merger, but as we get into Q4, the systems conversion is likely to happen in September, it's been our practice to keep most of the staff within the bank for at least a month afterwards to make sure that the customer experience is exactly what we want it to be, so you'll see, staff departures in earnest at the end of October, which will benefit the 4th quarter a bit, but that will help even more in the first quarter of 2027.

Okay, so I mean, how do we think about the amount of cost saves left in the first quarter? and is the first quarter then the kind of the first clean quarter and that we Should build on? or is even 27, you're hoping to take it down from that first quarter number?

The 1st 2027 will be the first clean quarter, but we think there are opportunities to improve operating leverage throughout the year, so even if that means just kind of holding expenses flat or down a little bit quarter-to-quarter and, avoiding what would be typically the inflationary increase in, first quarter is, going to go through merit increases and that kind of stuff, so, and then you'll see, we're planning for more, significant growth in loans and deposits in 2027. If you're holding expenses flat or Coming down a little bit, the operating leverage could, really build up by the end of 2027.

Okay, great. Thanks for all the color, Chris, appreciate it.

Christopher Marinac, Brean Capital.

Hey, thanks, good morning, Chris and Pat and see, you've wanted to have a large reserve for a long time, so you're finally here, I guess my question is, should we think of this as a permanent change, number 1, and number 2 is the extra, tangible book solution, something that you can kind of make up for relatively quickly.

I think the, we see a lot of earnings momentum going into 2027, so I think you'll be building back tangible book value as you go, throughout the year, and then one thing I would point out, and Pat mentioned this in his comments, if you think about the source of the tangible book value dilution, the most significant individual line item is to build in the ACL, so we moved what was in the equity account over into the ACL account, which, provides for a very, a much stronger balance sheet and, more consistent, ACL coverage with our peer group, but it's not like that money was, left the company in any way, it's just a stronger ACL, so that was about, if you think about it in dollar terms, it was about $80 million of net reserve build, on top of the reserves that both Flushing and Ocean First had coming into the quarter, so that was the most significant line item, and we certainly don't expect that that's lost content, and the second, biggest item is the, purchase accounting marks which will come back to us in a credent income over the next couple of years. So because of the sources of the dilution, we were a little less concerned about that, but we do expect earnings to pick up nicely in 2027, start to build that tangible book back.

Great, Chris, thank you for that background and, thanks for hosting us this morning.

All right, thank you.

Emily Lee, KBW.

Hey everyone, it's Emily stepping in for Tim Switzer. Thanks for taking my question.

So given the progress made in commercial banking initiatives and the recruitment of some revenue producing talent over the last few years, and, your commentary on remaining opportunistic on the hiring front, can you maybe dive deeper into any incremental investments you plan to make in that area?

I guess one thing I would say, Emily, is that, if you think about the companies we go into the recruiting season is typically heaviest in, Q1, because your best commercial bankers have, typically they're having a good year and, they like to collect their, bonuses from wherever they are and then move on. We expect, the hiring season really to be in Q1, we have already seen an uptick in interest from and from Qualified commercial bankers who really like first the coverage in New York that we got from Flushing, so we're talking to commercial bankers in New York that wouldn't, I think, have considered us as strong and an opportunity as they did in the past. And then there's just the dynamics of having a larger balance sheet, bigger capital base, so, players from, larger banks, which is typically our recruiting base, would feel more comfortable. Coming to a firm of our the size we are now, so I think we've got, we will be a more attractive, destination for talent in the 1st quarter, at this point, we don't expect any significant increase in expenses because we think that we can self-fund a lot of this through technology initiatives and through the rotation of how we spend our money instead of spending that extra, but we'll keep everybody posted, and if we have good news in the first half of next year, we're able to hire more bankers than we. Thought, we'll certainly give the updated guidance.

That's really helpful, thank you, and then just on capital, following the completion of the Flushing acquisition, can you discuss your capital priorities going forward, what level of repurchase should we anticipate going forward, and, do you have any appetite for further bank M&A maybe in 2027 or beyond?

So we take the priorities are pretty straightforward, I mean our best priority is always organic growth, and, so we hope to be able to use the capital we expect to accree in organic growth next year, so that's the biggest priority, but we're always very discriminating about the credits we put on and the spreads and managing our margin, so if we don't find the right quality of growth and we wind up with an excess capital position, our number one priority would be buybacks, And that's it, we're heads down focused on the franchise right now, we're not talking about, M&A.

Great, well, thanks for taking my questions, congrats on the quarter.

Thank you.

Matthew Breese, Stephens Inc.

Hey, good morning.

Good morning, matt.

I was hoping we could start with, maybe overall balance sheet size, kind of, thoughts and guidance, and I guess I'm just curious about the interplay between loan growth and securities from here. Should we be thinking there's, like a one-for-one offset, securities into the loans, basically maintaining a flat balance sheet, and if it is the case, how long do you anticipate that dynamic going on for?

Oh, that's a good question, Matt, so the, if you were going to go back a step, we did inflate to a degree the amount of securities in the balance sheet when we did the loan sale, curiously, we were able to buy securities at a lower risk weight that had a higher yield than the loans that we sold, so it wound up being a very good trade, as we go forward we're probably a little heavy insecurities, so we'd pull that down a little bit, but, we do want to maintain a pretty good liquidity position, we think that's one of the most important things we achieved this quarter in terms. Of making sure we had on hand liquidity, a lower loan to deposit ratio and all that, so the first place we would go is pulling down securities a little bit, so I think you'll see a flatshish balance sheet this year, and then, to the extent you'll see any growth, it would probably be coming in 2027, but after we've kind of Massage the securities number a little bit.

I guess my follow-up there is that. Does that balance sheet Outlook, is that what's giving you the flexibility and the opportunity To kind of test run higher cost community deposits, maybe work off some broker deposits And lower deposit cost, I think the spot cost at the end of the quarter is 226, right, so about 20 bits higher, is that what's providing you the room to kind of lower that from current levels and see where it goes?

Absolutely, that's the chief advantage of having that excess liquidity in the lower loan-to-deposit ratio, so we don't have to be as, kind of careful, we don't have to match the market every day, but I will say that to give you, longer-term guidance, we think being more liquid, all things equal, makes us a more valuable franchise, so, you might see loan to deposit pick up a little bit, but, you still think of it as staying below 95%. As opposed to in the past, we would have been closer to 100%. But we will use that advantage in the way we think about pricing.

And I will add, Matt, this is Pat, that there, there's probably $300 million or 400 million of Securities where we parked them just because the yields were better than leaving them in cash, that we'll look to recycle those and maybe some cash flows into better yielding opportunities. As they come up, most of that will probably hope hopefully be done in this quarter, in the 3rd quarter. But we didn't have much time and we wanted to put all the cash to work as fast as we could, so there'll be some churn there, but it shouldn't affect the overall Magnitude of the portfolio or the mix of loans versus securities.

Okay, I do want to come back to that, but just one more on kind of balance sheet mix, and what is the strategy with the remaining sub amount of rent regulated multi-family that's salable at similar me at similar marks, is that something you intend to do, or is that more of a, work down over time through maturities and payoffs, also curious, same pricing line. If there's anything else within the Flushing kind of loan portfolio that we should think of as running off or, getting rid of on an expedited basis.

I would consider that asset class to be in a runoff posture, so we expect that it's going to decline slowly over the next. Probably 8 to 12 quarters, I will make the point that those were, pretty good loans, we had, loans to deposit customers, we had loans there that might have had an interest rate swap or participant position, it just made them less liquid, you really couldn't sell them into a capital markets execution, a strong debt service, very low LTVs, delinquencies de minimis, we're happy to have those clients and just let that kind of resolve itself over time. That said, we recognize that there's a public policy risk to the asset class, so we've got a 14.5% credit reserve against them, so we've marked them pretty aggressively, but it, it's small, it's going to run off, and, we, we'll just kind of see that happening slowly over probably 2 to 3 years.

I would say these aren't bad assets to hang on to, so these are 50% LTVs, 140, that service coverage, 5.5% average yield of what we're left with. They were just not as easily securitizable, they weren't as fast to sell at as high a price because of that feature, which is why they didn't go into a large, even an even larger pool of sale that we did in June.

I think your second question, Matt, about other assets, I think we're done with the balance sheet restructure, this is kind of where we are, it's kind of a clean, July 1st balance sheet to then move off of, and, we're focused on, organically growing that as we outlined earlier.

Okay. Then my last one going back to the NIM. Let's just assume that the 226 deposit cost. Might be down a little bit, it still implies that there's quite a bit of moving pieces on the earning asset side to get to that, 3rd quarter range, can you just help me out, with your expectations for kind of low yield and obviously there's accretion that impacts that, and Pat, you had mentioned, some movement of securities portfolio. could you just give us some idea of where yields on those two components will shake out, that's kind of supporting the NIM range for the third quarter, and that's all I have, thank you.

One thing I'd point out is that, just like the deposit spot costs, on the loan side we only had 1 month worth of, purchasing accounting accretion on the one side, so you're going to see a little bit of an offset there as we experience a full quarter's worth of kind of mark on that loan portfolio, so that'll be helpful in terms of bringing the bone yields up, Pat?

Yeah, I, the, probably the biggest driver of that is the full quarter's worth of accretion. Moving it up, so we had about $8 million of accretion in second quarter, Net interest income and we'll have $16million, $17million as we move into the next quarter on a run rate basis.

Okay.

Okay, I'll leave it there, thank you very much. I know I asked a lot, thank you.

Thanks matt.

Manuel Navas, Piper Sandler.

I stayed on the balance sheet for a moment. Can you talk about the hedging strategy a bit, Flushing was liability sensitive, what are you putting on? And How long is the termed out for? Does it contemplate you shifting your own funding base to eventually not need that in the future? Just kind of talk through that a bit, please.

I'll let Pat walk you through the duration and all that, but I think that philosophically, we want to run a reasonably balanced shop, we were, pretty neutral prior to the acquisition, as Pat mentioned, it made us liability sensitive, so what we were focused on with the hedges is the more of the tail risk like outside the normal operating environment because the normal, plus or minus 100 basis points really doesn't move the number much for us. But what you would have seen if you looked at our interest rate risk models without the hedges, you would have seen more risk going in the kind of plus 200 plus 300 plus 400, and minus -200, -300 and -400, so it was really an exercise around, limiting our longer-term risk, you might talk about the duration and our return to the more neutral position over time.

so yeah, and the hedges that we did put on We, essentially caps and collars, as Chris mentioned just to hedge against spikes, larger increases in rates, about $1.3 billion. That ranged out over. 3, 4, 5, 6 year kind of period. And what we're left with is some modest liability sensitivity, that is largely driven by the fixed rates on the deposit side. We've inherited, so as we roll out of deposits and more fixed rate deposits and into non-maturity deposits. That'll continue to help that, and, our goal would be to have, to continue to have a relatively neutral balance sheet because predicting short-term rates has proven to be very difficult. Predicting long-term rates has proven to be very difficult. We feel like staying short is the way to go. From a duration perspective. We've picked up our duration modestly. With the acquisition, we're probably in the 4 to 5 range on the asset side, Years duration And, the securities duration is ticked up along with the loans they're both in that range on the liability side for the most part, we remain, quite short.

That's helpful.

Can I shift to, kind of loan growth drivers? It seems like the, just kind of walk through the Loan portfolio, places where you might see continued runoff. There's a comment of Resis is running off. Also you have a lot of Legacy momentum in the commercial side. If you could just talk about go-forward loan growth makes a bit, and when does the Flushing team kind of add even more to it?

I'll make a couple comments I'm sure Joe will add in as well, so, some of the momentum is just by adding the commercial bankers that you talked about, new bankers, new relationships, as we've seen in other times we've made, acquisitions, we think, hopefully a meaningful opportunity in the Flushing base to become a bigger part of many of these clients, kind of wallet share, so just by nature of the size of the balance sheet and loan limits and things like that. We've already met just a wonderful group of long-term Flushing clients. Who can do more with us than they could with Flushing, and I think that that that could be a meaningful driver over the next several quarters, but Joe, anything to add?

I think the, I have 2 things, 1, typically when you do these, there's a little bit of a lull just because clients are trying to assess the cons of the combined entity, and quite frankly, some of your sales people are as well, but, as mentioned, we've got pretty good positive, outcome pretty early on, we've done a variety of customer events and days in market, which I think have been really valuable for us and the client base, so, and the combined scale I think is really going to make a difference, and, remember, the vast majority of the Flushing book was, smaller was CRE transactions, they had a fledgling C&I business, so the opportunity to do things at a larger scale with a little bit more, little bit more boots on the ground and some sophistication I think is going to really benefit, it's one of the densest markets in the country.

Individual portfolios. You have Some expected runoff in residential. You talked about the rent regulated, is going to run off slowly. Where are some of the headwinds?

Those are certainly headwinds, but I think the guidance we gave you around growth in 2027 would be net of those headwinds, so that's kind of where we would be, I'd also note that we think our win percentage in New York is going to go up. So, as you recall, we entered New York in 2019 with 5 branches, a $2 billion franchise. We were doing well and winning clients, but adding the 30 branches and the visibility of that, we think is going to be very helpful, I mentioned in my comments that we will rebrand, the Flushing branches, that'll be done by October 1st and one of the reasons you see a slight elevation in, expenses in Q4 is we expected a significant kind of brand launch in New York, that will, we help provide a little more visibility and credibility so the win percentage in New York, we think is going to be better in 2027 than it was in 2026, because people will just know us better, feel more comfortable, there's a, it's hard to pin down, but the comfort level people get when they drive by your branches, even if they never walk through them.

That makes sense, my final one is, obviously 1% ROA next year isn't the final target, with things closed now, what are kind of your thoughts on how you can exit 2027 with a trajectory to a better ROA and and the best ways to accomplish that?

So I think if you think long-term ROA targets, the minimum floor for us would be more like a 120, because if you don't get to that level, like, our capital levels are going to, so you're not going to get to your cost of capital unless you're, somewhere up in that area or better, so I think in 2027 it's to not just get to a 1 but get above a 1, exit the year strong, and then, look towards that target in 2028.

Executing on cost saves, more substantial loan growth, hitting the 320 NIM, any other pieces to that better trajectory?

No, I think we do those things, it all holds together, you've got, I think that over time as the balance sheet grows, we would get, non-interest expenses closer to a range of like 175 basis points, 1.75%. You couple that with the 320 margin and you, you're doing pretty well.

Thank you for the commentary.

Thank you.

Matthew Breese, Stephens Inc.

Hey, just a quick follow-up point of clarification, Pat, I think you had said $8 million in accretable yield this quarter, the press release says net accretion was closer to, I don't know, $1.1million, $2 million, I was modeling like 4.5 million next quarter, I think you were referring just to the loan side, maybe you could clarify.

Yeah, you're absolutely right, it was about a $1 million in June, one month, that will be about $5 million in the third quarter. It's driven off in part off of loan maturities, it'll drop down a little bit, $3 million-ish, maybe a little under that in the 4th quarter, so the full year impact for this year Is a little over 8 million. That will double and will be $16million, $17million, $18 million per year for at least the next 2 to 3 years. That's what we're expecting.

Okay. That's it, I'll leave it there, thank you.

Yeah, sorry for the misspoke.

No, that's all right, appreciate it.

We have reached the end of our Q&A session, I will now turn the call back to Christopher for closing remarks.

Thank you, we appreciate your time today and your continued support of Ocean First Financial Corp. We look forward to speaking with you in October about our 3rd quarter results and we'll provide an update in our, merger integration at that point too, thanks very much, enjoy the rest of your summer.

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