National Fuel Gas Co (NFG) 2009 Q1 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the first quarter 2009 National Fuel Gas Company earnings conference call. My name is Chanel and I will be your coordinator for today. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. (Operator Instructions). As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the presentation over to your host for today's call, Mr. Jim Welch, Director of Investor Relations.

  • Jim Welch - IR

  • Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us on today's conference call for a discussion of last evening's earnings release. With us on the call from National Fuel Gas Company are Dave Smith, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Ron Tanski, Treasurer and Principal Financial Officer. Joining us from Seneca Resources Corporation is Matt Cabell, President.

  • At the end of the prepared remarks, we will open the discussion for questions. We would like to remind you that today's teleconference will contain forward-looking statements. While National Fuel's expectations, beliefs, and protections are made in good faith and are believed to have a reasonable basis, actual results may differ materially. These statements speak only as of the date on which they are made, and you may refer to last evening's earnings release for a listing of certain specific risk factors. With that, we will begin with Dave Smith.

  • Dave Smith - President, CEO

  • Good morning to everyone. Last night, we reported a net loss for our first fiscal quarter of $0.57 per share. The sharp drop in crude oil and natural gas prices required us to take a $108 million after-tax charge to write down the book value of our Exploration and Production assets.

  • While disappointing, it was expected. It's non-cash, and it's important to realize this impairment was entirely price-driven, with no significant loss of reserves. Our reserves are still in place and as they are produced, they will contribute to future earnings.

  • As we've said in the past, diversity of assets is a defining characteristic of National Fuel's long-term strategy. Our regulated operations, which are not greatly impacted by short-term swings in commodity prices, act as a natural hedge to our more price-sensitive E&P operations.

  • The benefit of our diversified and balanced portfolio of assets was readily evident in this quarter's results. While lower crude oil prices and hurricane-related production shut-ins in the Gulf, caused Seneca's recurring operating results to drop by $0.08 per share.

  • Our Utility and our Pipeline and Storage operations posted strong results, results that largely offset the reduction at Seneca. Consequently, consolidated operating results were down only $0.02 per share, compared to the prior year's record first quarter.

  • The past several months have been characterized by declining commodity prices and tighter access to credit, conditions which may exist for some time. Since there is little we can do to influence commodity prices or credit markets, we have focused on effectively managing our assets and prudently allocating our capital.

  • In the E&P segment, we continue to prioritize the development of our nearly 1 million acres of mineral rights in Appalachia. In the Marcellus, our partnership with EOG is proceeding at the pace called for in our joint venture agreement and it's fair to say that EOG and National Fuel are encouraged by the results achieved this past quarter.

  • At the same time, we're eager to initiate our own Marcellus drilling program, which we are only now able to do as a result of a modification to the joint venture agreement and expect to have a rig in place next week.

  • With regards to our Upper Devonian program, we're pleased with the progress of our drilling in that region. Presently, we are ahead of last year's pace, which at year's end resulted in 254 wells being drilled.

  • Our attention is also focused on infrastructure. We have identified several pipeline, compressor, and gathering projects that, when completed, will help provide an outlet for incremental Appalachian production.

  • As you would expect, the lower commodity price environment and tighter credit markets have caused us to take another look at our E&P capital spending plans. In summary, one, we do not anticipate making any major changes to our projected capital budget in the East. That's just down slightly.

  • In the Gulf, we're significantly reducing our exploration program. In fact, there are no true wildcat exploration wells. And as we've said in the past, we'll only commit capital to the Gulf if we see a solid opportunity to earn a very attractive return.

  • In the West, the incremental capital that has been earmarked to accelerate crude oil production, which was about $19 million, which made perfect economic sense at $100 a barrel, was cut from this year's capital budget. Matt will provide, in his presentation, more detail on our E&P operations, and also on those CapEx reductions.

  • Turning to the regulated segments, frequent and bitter cold snaps experienced throughout the quarter and in January have caused increased throughput across our entire system. Operationally, it's been a real test, one we haven't had in some time, and our system performed impeccably, which is a testament to our employees, whose efforts make possible the safe and reliable service our customers expect.

  • With today's energy prices, which are still relatively high historically, colder weather, and current economic conditions, we're more concerned than ever about our customers managing this winter's heating bills. As a result, we continue to strongly promote the programs that provide them with both long- and short-term assistance.

  • One in particular is our conservation incentive program established in New York division's last rate case, which gave us the tools to aggressively promote conservation. Since implementation, more than 18,000 customers have taken advantage of the program. Nearly $5 million has been provided in the form of cash rebates and free weatherization services.

  • And our efforts are beginning to pay off in the context of throughput. Since implementing the conservation incentive program and our revenue decoupling program, average normalized residential usage has declined by about 1%.

  • In addition, we continue to aggressively promote the availability of assistance programs. In particular, changes to the federally funded home energy assistance programs, offered in both New York and in Pennsylvania, are making it possible for more families than ever before to qualify for help with heating bills. As of the end of the first quarter, we have collected 30 million HEAP dollars on behalf of our customers, compared to the $20 million collected over last year's first quarter.

  • Turning to the pipeline and storage segment, in distribution, we placed the Empire Connector project in service. Nearly five years of development went into that project, which is the largest organic project completed in the history of the Company. I applaud the efforts of the many individuals who made it a reality.

  • Complementing the connector project, Supply Corporation has been busy marketing its system as a source of supply for Millennium shippers. I'm happy to report that Supply Corporation recently secured a 10-year contract to transport 75 million cubic feet per day into Millennium at Independence. The project required only modest incremental capital investment and is expected to generate over $3 million of revenue per year for the Company.

  • We will continue to invest in this segment and to that end, we continue to pursue the development of our West to East project, and its accompanying Appalachian lateral. Interest remains very strong, especially with Appalachian producers. We recently completed our revised capital cost estimates and are drafting precedent agreements that we expect to send to prospective shippers in the second quarter.

  • However, as a producer-driven project, the ultimate timing is largely dependent on drilling activity in the region, and particularly in the Marcellus. Given the lower commodity price environment and tight credit markets, it's quite possible the pace of drilling may slow in the coming months, which could push completion of the project into fiscal 2012.

  • That's not to suggest that related projects will not be developed and put into service sooner. Remember that we've believed for some time that it was likely that this and other projects would develop in sequential stages in conjunction with the development of the Marcellus and the development of the market, and that's proven to be the case.

  • For example, Supply Corporation is pursuing a pipeline and compression project at the southwestern end of our system that would move about 150 million a day to market constrained -- of market constrained Marcellus production through an interconnection with Texas Eastern at Bristoria and ultimately off system. In the long run, it very well may tie into the West to East project.

  • This project is moving along at a rapid pace, at least by pipeline standards, and we're hopeful to have signed precedent agreements by the end of this quarter. If all goes well, the Bristoria project should be in service by December 2010.

  • In closing, we continue to be optimistic about the future. No doubt the coming months will be challenging, but National Fuel has endured many boom and bust cycles over the course of its 107-year history. We are a conservative Company. We have been a conservative Company, we are a conservative Company, and we will be a conservative Company. I firmly believe our fiscal discipline and balanced portfolio of assets position us to meet the challenges that may lie ahead.

  • With that, I'll turn the call over to Matt.

  • Matt Cabell - President, Seneca Resources Corp.

  • Good morning, everyone. Let me start by addressing Seneca's first quarter production. Although Hurricane Ike caused overall production to be down 10.5% versus first quarter of last year, I expect that we will make up most, if not all, of that shortfall over the remainder of the fiscal year, as Gulf of Mexico development projects come online and Appalachian infrastructure constraints are relieved.

  • Due to Hurricane Ike, first quarter Gulf of Mexico production was 1.2 Bcfe lower than first quarter of last year. While much of our production returned fairly quickly after the hurricane, two of our major fields remained shut-in the entire quarter and are just coming back online this month.

  • In addition to the resumption of shut-in production, we expect to have first production from the Cyclops field within the next few weeks, bringing overall Gulf of Mexico net production up to 45 million cubic feet equivalent per day.

  • We have one more discovery from last year, Eugene Island 383, that is still being developed, with first production expected in the fourth quarter.

  • In California, quarterly production is up 7% versus a year ago, due to the net production increase from last year's Ventura area property trade, the production increase resulting from our modified steaming operations, and the production added from our new Marvic wells at Midway Sunset and our Monterey shale wells at Lost Hills.

  • While our goal in California is to keep production flat for the next several years, our West division team is doing a great job finding ways to actually increase production in each of our three field areas.

  • In Appalachia, we continue to aggressively develop our Upper Devonian tight gas sands. However, our production for the first quarter was disappointingly low due to gathering system constraints and compressor station shutdowns. To solve these constraints, we installed three compressors last month and several new projects are underway.

  • January production is up and we expect a substantial production increase within the next few months, and ultimately, full-year production of 10% to 15% -- production growth of 10% to 15% for the East division.

  • Moving onto the Marcellus shale. Our first long lateral well from the EOG joint venture flowed at an average rate of 1.4 million cubic feet per day over a 25-day period. This appears to be an economically viable well with an EUR of approximately two Bcf. There are three more horizontal wells waiting to be frac'ed, and another is currently being drilled. These recent wells have lateral lengths of 3,800 feet to 5,700 feet. That's compared to the previous well at 3,500 feet.

  • The next frac job is planned for March but I should have flow test results by our next earnings call. Within the next six months, I expect we will have four or five more joint venture wells completed and tested.

  • Regarding EOG's acreage selection, they have chosen the first 50,000 net earnable acres that they will pursue. Their final 50,000 net acres will be selected by March 1.

  • Our Seneca operated vertical drilling program will commence next week, with our initial wells planned for Tioga County. We have a total of 10 vertical well locations planned in six different Pennsylvania counties.

  • These vertical wells are intended as assessment wells to help us evaluate our extensive acreage position. Most will be cored, and all may be used as monitor wells for future horizontal fracture treatments.

  • To execute our horizontal program, we have contracted with HWD for a new rig which will arrive in July. This is a very mobile, highly automated, super single with 1,000 horsepower pumps. It is nearly identical to the rig that EOG has used very effectively for the last several joint venture wells. But it is enhanced to accommodate higher anticipated frac volumes.

  • Let me conclude with an update of our planned E&P capital spending. Due to low oil and gas prices, we have cut our fiscal 2009 budget. The current plan is to spend $19 million in the Gulf of Mexico, primarily for developing last year's discoveries; $35 million in California, which, as Dave said, is a $19 million cut; and $190 million in the East, including $74 million for the Marcellus leases we picked up at the September state lease sale.

  • We're also taking a hard look at the Upper Devonian program and may cut that back some if natural gas prices remain low or trend lower.

  • This brings our new total forecasted E&P capital spending to $244 million. Absent the $74 million that we're spending on the Pennsylvania leases, our spending would be completely covered by our E&P cash flow at $45 oil and $5.50 gas. The planned CapEx reduction will have minimal impact to our fiscal 2009 production. And we are maintaining our production guidance of 38 to 44 Bcfe. With that, I'll turn it over to Ron.

  • Ron Tanski - Treasurer, Principal Financial Officer

  • Good morning, everyone. The variability in commodity prices has provided a challenge for all the financial analysts trying to keep their forecast models updated. Back in August, when we gave our preliminary fiscal 2009 earnings guidance of $3.20 to $3.40 per share, we based our forecast on NYMEX prices of $9.50 per MMBtu for gas and $115 per barrel of oil.

  • When we reported earnings in November, we revised 2009 earnings guidance to a range of $2.60 to $2.80 per share, based on NYMEX prices of $7 per MMBtu for gas and $70 per barrel of oil.

  • In last evening's release, we revised our guidance once again. Including the $1.35 per share reduction in earnings from our ceiling test impairment, and again reducing commodity prices to $5.50 per MMBtu for gas and $45 per barrel of oil for our unhedged production over the remaining nine months of the fiscal year, we have a new earnings guidance range of $1.10 to $1.30 per share, or $2.45 to $2.65 per share excluding the impairment.

  • Continuing our usual practice, we have included an earnings per share sensitivity due to changes in commodity prices at page 21 of last evening's release. In addition to that table, our first quarter 10-Q that we'll be filing later today has some additional calculations regarding a hypothetical impairment if lower prices had been used in the ceiling test calculation at the end of November.

  • Matt mentioned a cutback in CapEx for the Exploration and Production segment. With that reduction, planned CapEx for the fiscal year will be $244 million for the E&P segment. For the consolidated company, our CapEx is now targeted at $376 million. From a cash flow perspective, factoring in the $376 million in capital spending for the year, and using the middle of our earnings guidance range, we expect to be cash flow negative for the entire year by approximately $87 million.

  • We have plenty of credit capacity to cover our working capital needs and to handle this extra $87 million cash requirement.

  • In addition to the impairment, there were two other items recorded in the first quarter of fiscal 2009 that impact the comparability of our first quarter to last year's first quarter earnings. The first was the receipt of a death benefit payment under corporate-owned life insurance policies due to the untimely death of a retired officer. Our former friend and colleague, Bruce Hale, who retired in 2005, passed away in November at the age of 59.

  • The second item was an impairment charge to write down the value of our 50% interest in our Energy Systems North East combined cycle turbine that we owned with Connectiv. Based on a joint review by the partners and our expectation of reduced dispatch time into the New York ISO, we have determined to write down the book value of the turbine. After the impairment, we now have an investment of approximately $2 million for our 50% ownership share reflected on our books.

  • Looking forward through the remainder of the fiscal year, it's really only the volatility in commodity prices and variations in weather that are expected to cause variations in our projected earnings. As we reported in the back pages of last evening's release, weather for the first quarter was 10.5% colder than last year.

  • During the quarter, however, we saw daily temperature swings in our service territory from a level that was 60% warmer than normal on one day to a 30% colder than normal two days later. That variability requires our dispatchers to be on their toes and our field operating people do a great job keeping gas flowing to all our customers despite those wide variations.

  • In addition to the impact on the Utility system, those wide temperature swings can have an impact on Seneca's well production that feeds into the lower pressure pipelines. As the pressure in those lines is increased to assure delivery to customers in cold weather, production from Seneca's wells gets choked back.

  • There is a positive note that arose from the weather variations. Due to a combination of extremely cold weather in January and system constraints on other pipelines, we were able to sell some short-term firm and interruptible capacity on the Empire Pipeline and our Empire Connector. Our goal is to get customers to take more long-term firm capacity on the Empire system, but after just starting up the Connector pipeline, it's not uncommon to have to fill up the space with short-term contracts here and there.

  • I'll make one final comment regarding another tweak that analysts can make in their financial forecast models. Due to the impairment charge and the fact that Seneca's depletable base is now lower by $183 million, Seneca's DD&A rate for the remaining nine months of the year will drop in a range between $2.10 to $2.20 per MMcfe.

  • With all this variability, we will do our best to keep you updated in future earnings releases and through other reports that we develop for industry conferences from time to time and make available on the investor relations section of our website. Now, Operator, we will open up the line for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). Carl Kirst, BMO Capital Markets.

  • Carl Kirst - Analyst

  • Good morning, everybody. Nice way to start off here. Just a few E&P questions, if I could. Matt, I guess the EOG JV horizontal well that's drilling now, is that number seven or number eight? I'm losing track.

  • Matt Cabell - President, Seneca Resources Corp.

  • The one that's drilling now would be our seventh horizontal.

  • Carl Kirst - Analyst

  • Would be seventh. Are you seeing -- previously, I guess, we've talked about well costs in the range of $3.5 million sort of on a runrate basis, understanding we're doing a lot of science in the early days here. But are you seeing costs beginning to come off on that as far as the drilling and completion estimate for this well here?

  • Matt Cabell - President, Seneca Resources Corp.

  • Maybe a little bit. It's not a substantial change at this point. I think what we're really seeing is -- we will probably be able to drill wells at that same cost and get much longer laterals. So, on a cost-per-foot basis, yes, we're seeing an improvement.

  • Carl Kirst - Analyst

  • Could you repeat what the lateral lengths of these -- of the three wells that are going to be frac'ed, and I guess the anticipated lateral of the well that's being drilled?

  • Matt Cabell - President, Seneca Resources Corp.

  • They range from 3,800 feet to 5,700 feet.

  • Carl Kirst - Analyst

  • And then, just -- last question I had on that, you had mentioned a possible flow test in March, and then maybe having a data point on the next earnings release. Since we have three wells waiting to be frac'ed, is that something where all three wells can kind of be frac'ed kind of back to back, i.e., we might have three data points, or is the timing such that they're going to be spaced enough apart where we're really only going to have that sort of first flow test by the next call?

  • Matt Cabell - President, Seneca Resources Corp.

  • I guess I would expect that we'll only have one by the next call. Two that are waiting are in a fairly remote location that we think is better, or I should say, EOG thinks is better, to wait until after the spring thaw. So those two wells would be further down the line.

  • Carl Kirst - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). Shneur Gershuni, UBS.

  • Shneur Gershuni - Analyst

  • Just a couple of quick questions here. I was wondering if you can give us a little color on the ceiling tests. What areas were more impaired and so forth, kind of how you arrive at the numbers?

  • Matt Cabell - President, Seneca Resources Corp.

  • I'm sorry, you're going to need to repeat that.

  • Shneur Gershuni - Analyst

  • The ceiling tests. I was just wondering if you can sort of -- if you can walk us through which areas were more susceptible to being -- to the test versus others, whether it was more in California, whether it's in the Gulf of Mexico and so forth.

  • Matt Cabell - President, Seneca Resources Corp.

  • Keep in mind it's a full-cost pool. So, really, you look at the total value of all your reserves, and compare that to what's on your books, and you calculate that total value based on year-end pricing.

  • Another way to look at it is oil prices took a substantial dive, particularly when you apply a California basis differential. So one could argue that California had more of an influence on it, but it's really an aggregation to do the calculation.

  • Shneur Gershuni - Analyst

  • Fair enough. You mentioned in your remarks that you were looking at potentially cutting the Upper Devonian program. Just kind of trying to work at where you believe the breakeven price is for the Upper Devonian program, or breakeven plus cost of capital, kind of -- where do you need to see gas prices for you to make sure that you're earning your returns there?

  • Matt Cabell - President, Seneca Resources Corp.

  • I think really the way we need to look at it is by discrete project, and some of the projects look good at $4. And others don't look good unless it's at least, say, $5.50. So that's why I say we're looking at it hard. There will be certain projects that maybe won't make the cut that would've made the cut six or eight months ago. So that could potentially affect the number of wells that we drill for the year.

  • Shneur Gershuni - Analyst

  • Is it kind of circular? Like if you see service costs come down, then those numbers kind of change?

  • Matt Cabell - President, Seneca Resources Corp.

  • Yes. And that's part of what we're factoring into our analysis is how much can we assume well costs will be reduced?

  • Shneur Gershuni - Analyst

  • And you also noted that, you know, 50,000 acres had been chosen by EOG. Was that primarily on NFG's legacy acreage, or was it on EOG's legacy acreage?

  • Matt Cabell - President, Seneca Resources Corp.

  • The selection process is entirely on NFG's acreage, Seneca's acreage, because the way the joint venture works, we have the right to earn 50% working interest in all of EOG's acreage that's within the AMI. EOG has the right to earn 50% of 200,000 acres, or 100,000 net, on our acreage. So they need to select down to that amount, whereas there is no selection process on EOG's acreage.

  • Shneur Gershuni - Analyst

  • One last question with respect to the share buyback program. Is it currently suspended now? Is it something that you're looking it now that you're taking that expensive gas out of the ground and gas is much cheaper, so liquidity is improving?

  • Ron Tanski - Treasurer, Principal Financial Officer

  • Really, it's going to depend more on the credit markets and the fuel for the credit markets. As Dave mentioned in his comments, we're just really watching our capital, and there is a lot of acreage to be tested. And we want to do a lot more science, so we're just being careful managing what capital we have and don't want to assume, necessarily, that the credit markets are always, always going to be there.

  • So -- the share buyback is still extant. We haven't purchased any shares under it lately, though.

  • Shneur Gershuni - Analyst

  • Thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • Becca Followill, Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co..

  • Becca Followill - Analyst

  • Good morning. You guys mentioned that in your 10-Q to be filed later today, you had some hypotheticals on what would happen to reserves, had there been a lower oil price at September 30. Can you give us any color on that or do we need to wait?

  • Ron Tanski - Treasurer, Principal Financial Officer

  • Well, no, it's not reserves, it's really the ceiling test calculation. And what we did is we did another sensitivity and we redid the calculation with oil prices that were $5 a barrel lower, and then we also did another run at gas prices that were $1 lower at the end of December, and then we combined them both together.

  • Becca Followill - Analyst

  • So it's ceiling test, not negative reserve provisions.

  • Dave Smith - President, CEO

  • Right.

  • Ron Tanski - Treasurer, Principal Financial Officer

  • It's the ceiling test. So under each scenario, you get roundabout another $50 million impairment, $50 million of gas prices, where $1 lower or $50 million of oil prices were $5 a barrel lower, and if you add them together, roundabout a $100 million extra impairment. But it didn't affect the reserves.

  • Becca Followill - Analyst

  • Any feel for, since you guys escaped the bullet by having a September 30 fiscal year-end, a lot of companies, as you're seeing, are facing big negative reserve revisions because the really low oil price and the wide basis at year-end. Any feel for what would happen to reserves, had -- at different oil price scenarios?

  • Matt Cabell - President, Seneca Resources Corp.

  • Of course, we look at our reserves quarterly, so -- we did take a small, very small, negative reserve revision at the end of the quarter. But it's not substantial. And yes, oil in California is what is most sensitive to that.

  • Now the vast majority of our oil production can handle a much lower oil price, so it's only going to affect tail end years out into the distant future.

  • Becca Followill - Analyst

  • So if at September 30 of this year, if oil is at 50, we shouldn't expect a massive negative reserve revision?

  • Matt Cabell - President, Seneca Resources Corp.

  • No.

  • Becca Followill - Analyst

  • Okay, great. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • I would like to turn the call back over to the management.

  • Jim Welch - IR

  • We'd like to thank everyone for taking the time to be with us today. A replay of this call will be available at approximately 2 PM Eastern time on both our website and by telephone, and will run through the close of business on Friday, February 13, 2009. To access the replay online, visit our investor relations website at investor.NationalFuelGas.com, and to access by telephone, call 1-888-286-8010 and enter passcode 6428 3323. This concludes our conference call for today. Thank you and goodbye.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes the presentation. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect. Have a wonderful weekend.