紐蒙特黃金公司 (NEM) 2012 Q1 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Good morning, and welcome to Newmont Mining first-quarter 2012 earnings conference call. (Operator Instructions). Today's conference is being recorded. If anyone has any objections please disconnect at this time. I'd now like to turn the call over to John Seaberg, Vice President of Investor Relations for Newmont Mining Corporation. Sir, you may begin.

  • John Seaberg - VP, IR

  • Thanks, operator, and good morning everyone. Welcome to Newmont's first-quarter 2012 earnings conference call. (technical difficulty) today are Richard O'Brien, President and Chief Executive Officer; Gary Goldberg, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer; Russell Ball, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; and other members of our executive leadership team.

  • Before we begin (technical difficulty) to refer you to our cautionary statement on slide 2. We will be discussing forward-looking information, which is subject to a number of risks as further described in our SEC filings, which can be found on our website at newmont.com. And now I'll turn the call over to Richard O'Brien.

  • Richard O'Brien - President & CEO

  • Thanks, John. For those of you on the webcast, we'll begin on slide 3.

  • As we announced (technical difficulty) during our investor day in New York we continue to focus our efforts on offering shareholders a combination of competitive production growth and returns, exploration upside, balance sheet strength, and a commitment to return capital back to shareholders.

  • Our first-quarter financial and operating results supported our efforts in each of these areas, with consolidated revenue of $2.7 billion, up 9% from the prior-year quarter. (technical difficulty); operating margins up 29% on a 22% increase in the average realized gold price of $1,684 per ounce; stable gold production of 1.3 million ounces; operating costs (technical difficulty) well within our guidance; and a 75% increase in our dividend over the prior year's quarter to $0.35 per share. We are maintaining our 2012 outlook for production, costs applicable to sales and capital spending.

  • Regarding our exploration upside, we continue to see the potential to add the equivalent of 90 million ounces of gold to reserves between 2011 and 2020. And in 2011 as disclosed previously we made significant progress by adding 11.6 million ounces of gold to reserves or approximately 10% of that target. Our balance sheet continues to strengthen and to provide additional financial flexibility (technical difficulty). We recently took advantage of favorable debt markets to raise $2.5 billion of senior notes to repay borrowings and replenish the balance sheet. Russell will speak to this in a few moments.

  • Slide 4, as many of you know, our growth potential includes a number of new projects, including the Akyem project in Ghana, where construction is now 40% complete and going very well.

  • Our growth potential also includes our Conga project and other projects in Peru. As most of you have heard, the Conga project's Environmental Impact Assessment, which was previously approved by the Central Government of Peru in October 2010 after an extensive public engagement process, was subject to a review by independent experts during the first quarter of 2012 at the request of the Central Government. The results of that review were released last week and confirmed that the EIA met Peruvian and international standards. The report also goes on to recommend (technical difficulty) considerations that we assess the technical and economic feasibility of relocating the Perol pit waste dump in trying to preserve the Azul and Chica Lakes.

  • We're currently in the process of evaluating the recommendations contained in the independent and additional recommendations from the government to assess the future impacts on the project's economics. Conga is a significant investment in Peru and would be, we believe, a catalyst for economic (technical difficulty) development in the Cajamarca region, while also protecting water quality and providing year-round water availability for downstream users. Conga's development would be a significant source of revenue for the government of Peru, along with significant employment. We've been privileged to work in Peru for more than 20 years, and we want to continue to be part of the government's social inclusion efforts and the development of the country through responsible mining.

  • If Conga cannot be developed, though, in a safe, socially and environmentally responsible manner, while also earning our shareholders an acceptable return, then we will reallocate that capital to other development projects in our portfolio, including opportunities in Nevada, Australia, Ghana, and Indonesia. And we can combine that with a possible return of additional capital to shareholders.

  • Now I'll turn the call over to Russell Ball to discuss our first-quarter financial and operating results.

  • Russell Ball - EVP, CFO

  • (technical difficulty) Richard and good day, everyone. Slide 5 contains the financial highlights of what I consider a solid quarter with a nice positive in regard to operating costs.

  • Adjusted net income of $578 million or $1.17 a share was slightly ahead of expectations, driven largely by those lower operating costs. The reconciliation (technical difficulty) of adjusted net income to net income reported under US GAAP is included as an appendix on slide 22 and reflects a $71 million charge net of tax benefits of $4 million to discontinued operations from an increased accrual related to the Holt royalty. More detail on this can be found in Note 10 on Page 11 of the 10-Q, and in addition, a write-down of $24 million in marketable securities acquired through the Frontier acquisition in 2011 net of some miscellaneous asset sales.

  • Cash from continuing operations was $613 million for the quarter was off (technical difficulty) million for the year-ago quarter, largely due to working capital changes. I'll provide some color on this shortly.

  • Moving to slide 6, (technical difficulty) gold production of 1.3 million ounces (technical difficulty) in line with a year ago, despite a much lower contribution from Batu Hijau. Gold costs applicable to sales of $620 an ounce, while (technical difficulty) year-ago quarter, were approximately $20 an ounce, below budget for the quarter. More on that in a moment.

  • Our gold operating margin continues to expand (technical difficulty) to $1,064 an ounce on the 22% increase in the realized gold price to $16.84 an ounce.

  • Slide 7 provides more detail (technical difficulty) decrease in operating cash flow from the year ago. As you can see, benefited by almost $400 million from a higher realized gold price. However, this was offset by lower copper revenues due to lower production at Batu Hijau with the realized copper price essentially flat. We had a net increase in working capital of $377 million, (technical difficulty) $300 million increase in stock and leach pad inventory on hand, and a similar increase in dore and concentrate receivables on hand at quarter end.

  • And finally, the balance of the working capital change was due to a decrease in Accounts Receivable of almost $200 million (technical difficulty) late 2011 related to the collection of late fourth-quarter 2010 concentrate sales from Batu Hijau. More detail on the working capital changes can be found in note 22 on page 24 (technical difficulty).

  • Slide eight outlines the drivers of the 11% increase in CAS from the year-ago quarter. The higher realized gold price added $16 to the higher workers' participation in Peru, an increase in royalties tied to the gold (technical difficulty) and a higher allocation of costs to gold from copper at Batu Hijau and Boddington where we allocate operating costs on a co-product basis.

  • Higher spending added $12.00 an ounce largely in the form of higher contracted services. Byproduct credits were $10.00 an ounce lower largely due to lower silver price and also lower silver volumes for the quarter. Higher than assumed diesel costs added $9.00 an ounce, with a stronger than assumed Australian dollar adding $7.00 an ounce net of hedge credits. And finally lower sales volumes due to the lower production in Batu Hijau and an increase in inventory on hand added about $9.00 an ounce.

  • (technical difficulty) a renewed focus on cost reduction going forward. When we think about costs, we think about them across the entire product lifecycle from exploration to advanced projects, operating costs (technical difficulty) G&A. Look for more details on our efforts in this regard at our Analyst Day to be held in New York on May 23.

  • Turning to slide 9, we continue to return capital to shareholders through our gold price linked dividend policy. (technical difficulty) a realized gold price of $1684 for the quarter, the Board approved a second-quarter dividend of $0.35 a share payable on June 28 to holders of record as of business on June 12. The dividend represents an increase of 75% from the (technical difficulty) quarter and results in a yield of approximately 3% based on today's share (technical difficulty).

  • Finally, I would like to take a minute to comment on our capital structure in light of our very successful debt capital market transaction in March.

  • First, a quick bit of (technical difficulty). In 2011 we repaid (technical difficulty) of our 8 5/8 debentures and completed the Frontier acquisition for a cash outlay of approximately $2.1 billion. The first quarter of this year we (technical difficulty) $517 million in convertible senior notes and $105 million in debt related to the refractory oil treatment plant in Nevada.

  • With interest rates at near record lows we decided to access the (technical difficulty) markets to refinance some of that debt we had retired over the last two years and at the same time to term out our debt profile. We raised net proceeds of just under $1.5 billion due in 2022 at a pretax cost of 3.5% and just under $1 billion due in 2042 to pretax cost of 4 7/8. The debt raising provides significant financial strength and flexibility to deliver on our growth profile through a combination of strong operating cash flows in the current gold price environment, cash on hand at the quarter end of approximately $2.6 billion and a solid investment-grade credit rating.

  • With that, I'll turn the call over to Gary Goldberg, our Chief Operating Officer, to discuss the regional performance in more detail and to (technical difficulty) project update.

  • Gary Goldberg - EVP, COO

  • Thanks, Russell. From a safety perspective in the first quarter, we incurred six serious injuries and no fatalities to our workforce.

  • On slide 10 you'll see that lower year-over-year production from our Asia-Pacific region was offset by increases in North and South America while Africa's production was down slightly due to production of slightly lower-grade material, in line with the mine plan (technical difficulty). Those production (technical difficulty) are reflected in our CAS with A-Pac incurring the largest increase in CAS as we spread higher stripping costs, particularly at Batu Hijau, across a lower (technical difficulty) base.

  • Turning to slide 11, our North American production was 489,000 ounces in the first quarter, up slightly from a year ago due to new contributions from underground mining at Exodus and Pete Bajo in Nevada, along with higher leach placement at La Herradura and the start of production at Noche Buena (technical difficulty) Mexico.

  • CAS was $613 million (technical difficulty) slightly from a year ago due to lower inventory drawdown costs. Recall that a year ago Newmont was in the final stages of remediation at Gold Quarry (technical difficulty) quarter of (technical difficulty) 2011 we mined less material than in 2012.

  • Looking to Q2 we expect to complete repairs at the Leeville vent shaft by June.

  • Additionally, I'd like to remind (technical difficulty) second-quarter production is historically Nevada's lowest quarter and it will be again this year due primarily to (technical difficulty) scheduled maintenance at the Mill 6 roaster in Nevada (technical difficulty) which usually lasts about 30 days.

  • Over the last couple of years it has been roughly 10% to 20% lower production (technical difficulty) other three quarters of the year. The effect of this downtime has been incorporated in the full-year gold production outlook for Nevada of million to 1.8 million ounces.

  • Turning to slide 12 you'll see an update on North American projects (technical difficulty) as part of our Nevada expansions we currently expect commissioning in July.

  • Developments (technical difficulty) seven vein at Twin Creeks is also on track and we expect it to make a small contribution beginning in the second quarter.

  • The Phoenix Copper leach pad construction is nearly complete and ore placement has begun. Construction of the solvent extraction electrowinning plants is scheduled to begin in late 2012.

  • Turning to slide 13, I'll round out my (td) of Nevada growth projects with Long Canyon. Based on the work conducted by Frontier, as well as our (technical difficulty) we continue to believe in our original investment thesis that (technical difficulty) Long Canyon holds the potential to grow beyond 3 (technical difficulty) times beyond Frontier's estimates. We are confident because our drilling results ,and you can see a plan view on slide 13, (technical difficulty) the extent of the known mineralization (technical difficulty) 1 kilometer to 2 kilometers along strike, which when you look on the slide is in the Northeast/Southwest, upper right/ lower left direction along the length of the ore body with mineralization remaining open (technical difficulty) along strike.

  • In addition, a number of new targets which outlined on here, dotted and dashed in red, have been generated that will be drilled in (technical difficulty) 2012. In 2012 we are planning to complete approximately 70 kilometers of infill extension and district (technical difficulty) drilling (technical difficulty) with the objective of completing (technical difficulty) associated pre-feasibility study to declare first NRM in conjunction with our 2012 year-end reporting.

  • Finally, and importantly, we submitted our plan of operations during the first quarter and maintain our aggressive push forward on the project representing a major step in securing the necessary permits. The scope for this submission calls for both leach and mill operations.

  • Turning to our South American region on slide 14, Q1 attributable production of 201,000 ounces was 26% higher than a year ago as we processed some higher-grade material from the El Tapado pit in its (technical difficulty) mine plan, which more than offset some lower leach pad production in the quarter. CAS decreased with higher production, partially offset by higher labor, diesel and work (technical difficulty) costs and lower silver byproduct credits.

  • Moving to slide 15, our Asia (technical difficulty) region delivered 442,000 ounces attributable gold production in the quarter. This was down 15% from a year ago due to lower production at Batu Hijau, which I've already discussed and it's combined with mill maintenance at Kalgoorlie and Waihi.

  • We also need to mention at Boddington in the first quarter, production was lower than planned due to an extended mill maintenance shut and a subsequent conveyor drive motor failure for a day that decreased our production (technical difficulty). This is not anticipated in the further quarters.

  • Both gold and copper CAS of $774 per ounce and $1.98 per pound, respectively, were a function of lower production and higher mill maintenance costs that I just mentioned.

  • At Batu Hijau, we recently experienced a pit wall failure that limits access to the bottom of the (technical difficulty) mine. However, (technical difficulty) to its current stripping phase and we are processing stockpiled material, so this does not cause any immediate production impact. As a reminder, since Batu is currently in the stripping phase, it is a very small contributor at less than 1% of our gold production outlook for the year.

  • At the Tanami project in Australia, construction of the camp is complete and we're in the process of finalizing vendor selection for the new crusher, and we've awarded the underground mine development contract.

  • Turning to slide (technical difficulty) we've summarized first-quarter performance at Ahafo in Africa where production of 175,000 ounces was down about 6% from Q1 2011 due to mine sequencing that I mentioned earlier. CAS was $568, up from a year ago due to lower production and direct mining costs, along with an increase in royalties and taxes related to higher gold prices.

  • Turning to slide 17, you'll see an image of construction of the ball mill and SAG mill foundations at the Akyem project in Ghana. Construction is progressing very well. We've recently poured first concrete at the primary crusher, started work on the conveyor quarter, cored to the final floor section of the mine services area workshop and completed the reclaimed tunnel slab core. We received approval to start pit clearing and work on the pit area and pit access roads, which began in February. Meanwhile we are currently advancing some additional projects in Ghana, including expanding the Ahafo nil and the Subika underground expansion, as well as conducting some exploration regarding the mineralization below the planned Akyem pit and in the Ahafo North area. I'd like to now turn the call back over to Richard.

  • Richard O'Brien - President & CEO

  • Thanks, Gary, and thanks, Russell. I'll wrap up by reiterating that execution has been and will continue to be job number one at Newmont. And what do we mean by execution?

  • We mean delivering safer goals for production, costs and capital. We also mean bringing projects into production effectively and efficiently. We believe firmly that our commitment to execution, paired with an emphasis on capital returns, both of and on capital, sets us apart in the industry, and we absolutely expect this focus to continue.

  • Thanks for listening to the call. And, operator, we'll now open it up for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). John Bridges, JPMorgan.

  • John Bridges - Analyst

  • Thanks, everybody. Thanks, Richard. Just wondered if you could sort of give us a little bit of guidance as to what sort of changes in the plan in Peru at Conga -- could -- you know how big a change in cost could that have?

  • Richard O'Brien - President & CEO

  • John, that's precisely what we are evaluating. Just to put it into context, as we are going through this (technical difficulty) which I expect will take a bit of time (technical difficulty) we're evaluating both the technical aspects. And as I said the first recognizes that A, that we did meet all the technical requirements for its approval and did conform (technical difficulty) both international and Peruvian standards. So we will continue to evaluate (technical difficulty) the recommendations around things that we consider. When we evaluate that we'll look at two things, both how it impacts the timing of the Conga project as well as the costs. So that's something that we're in the process of evaluating. And recognizing that we just received the report last week, we are still in process on that, but I guarantee you, John, when we go through this, when we get to the point where we know what the cost structure would be we are going to look at the economics of this project just as we have said. And we feel that we have other options in the portfolio should those economics turn out (technical difficulty) unfavorable and that's something that not (technical difficulty) go forward with. That's not what where we are today. We continue to evaluate.

  • John Bridges - Analyst

  • And you've got a dividend to maintain as well.

  • Richard O'Brien - President & CEO

  • We do. And we feel absolutely good about maintaining that dividend with or without Conga.

  • John Bridges - Analyst

  • Further on that, on the cost side, I see you've made a bit of progress there. You know, any areas that feel you can focus on to better control costs?

  • Richard O'Brien - President & CEO

  • Yes. I think as Russell said, we have a number of areas where we are going to focus. And I think it goes right on through. As we look at the opportunities that we have in the world today I think one of the things you're going to see is us focus more on select opportunities and really continue to build the early stage of the pipeline, but looking at exploration of advanced (technical difficulty) we probably will have some opportunities in that as we go forward even this year to reduce capital, yet not impact (technical difficulty) that we have, and I'd see right on through project construction, where we are going to be looking in particular at our overheads (technical difficulty) as the teams that we have in place. Right on through into G&A, and when I say G&A, I mean the corporate-wide structure both in Denver and around the world, to see where we have duplication (technical difficulty) and investing as we have talked about in new systems. SAP rollout will be completed by the end of the year.

  • We will be incorporating savings going forward from that as we look into our 2013 budget process and cycle. And in that plan I fully expect that we will see costs come down across the company.

  • John Bridges - Analyst

  • And just finally, with this change to some of the (technical difficulty) 14 companies to IFSR, then they seem to have more flexibility now on how they report costs. Would it be possible to get a little bit more information on strip ratio so we can sort of better compare your costs with those guys?

  • Russell Ball - EVP, CFO

  • John, it's Russ. Yes, clearly under US GAAP we have, as you alluded to, I think less flexibility around that reporting. We are looking at providing more information around an equivalent to a 43-101. We're working through some of the legal issues related there too.

  • We will endeavor and John's group has been working to provide more of that color to let you guys do a better job modeling perhaps at our investor day on May 23. So you should look for more granularity around the projects on May 23. (technical difficulty) get us all the way to where you would like to be, but it will certainly get us further than where we are today.

  • John Bridges - Analyst

  • Okay, great. Well, well done on the results. Good luck.

  • Operator

  • David Haughton, BMO Capital Market.

  • David Haughton - Analyst

  • Good morning and thanks for the update, Richard. Yanacocha had a pretty good result going through the mill. The milling rate was well above what we thought on the grades. What should we be thinking about that going forward?

  • Gary Goldberg - EVP, COO

  • Yes, David, it's Gary Goldberg here. We had higher grades particularly in the first quarter, and that was expected. A little better results than what might've been modeled at the one pit, but right now we're still looking at staying within the guidance that we provided.

  • David Haughton - Analyst

  • Okay. And the nameplate of the mill was around about 6 million tons per annum but it seems to be over achieving. Is that just the softness of the ore at the moment or is it that you've de-bottlenecked it so that we can see sustained good throughput?

  • Richard O'Brien - President & CEO

  • It's Richard, David. We have had success at that mill from really the day we started it, to actually get over nameplate and maintain it there. And I think it's a combination of both the ore quality, but also, we have done a significant study over the last year or two on a business excellence study to get more throughput. And that's true of our mills around the world, but this is one where we actually see it in practice every day.

  • David Haughton - Analyst

  • Okay. And I guess philosophically from the (technical difficulty) view of Congo, I guess one of the appeals I guess of Congo is that it's like a trial mine of the potential sulfides below in Yanacocha. Where does the Yanacocha sulfides fit in all of this? Is it too nebulous for you to be thinking about it?

  • Richard O'Brien - President & CEO

  • Yes, so let me take that. Actually what we said about the Conga project was that it was going to help get us more into copper, and it does have the quality of both copper and gold in the larger porphyry. It is a different deposit, though, than Yanacocha. This is a typical sulfide deposit or copper porphyry, rather.

  • And when we are talking about the deposits below Yanacocha, it's significantly different in that it is a deposit which is going to require more (technical difficulty) work for us to assess the commercial practicability of actually producing that.

  • And what I would say is as we review Conga we are reviewing all of our investments in Peru, including those potential deposits. So all of that is something that we're looking at, at the moment. We get to (technical difficulty) today and beyond we'll keep you informed as to what we think of the prospects of those. So I think it's both timing, and as we have said, technical feasibilities. So we'll keep you informed.

  • David Haughton - Analyst

  • Switching back to Nevada, most of the work appears to be focused on Long Canyon. Has there been any work undertaken on Sandman or Northumberland that was also picked up with the Frontier package?

  • Grigore Simon - SVP, Exploration

  • This is Grigore Simon. Most of the focus -- is correct, is at Long Canyon. At Sandman what we are doing we are moving the project into the pre-scoping and scoping phase, so we will be spending a bit more time there.

  • As far as Northumberland is concerned we are evaluating options in terms of further exploration progress, but we really didn't spend a lot of time there last year. And this year it's a pretty small program overall.

  • David Haughton - Analyst

  • Given the work on Sandman, is there potential for it to be brought on stream before Long Canyon?

  • Grigore Simon - SVP, Exploration

  • Right now, honestly, I don't see how that one would happen because Long Canyon looks much more prospective. So, we will -- in the portfolio context we will be pushing Long Canyon faster than at this stage. But again, it doesn't mean that we are not going to move along Sandman. It's just that it's not going to move at the same pace.

  • David Haughton - Analyst

  • All right. Thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • George Topping, Stifel Nicolaus.

  • George Topping - Analyst

  • Great, thanks. Boddington was worse than we were expecting. And it looks like the grades fell 10% from Q4. Can you talk about where you see grades and production for Boddington through the remainder of the year, please?

  • Gary Goldberg - EVP, COO

  • Yes we do -- this is Gary again, George. We do see grades down from last year to this year, and that was built in to our forecast for the full-year production at Boddington.

  • (technical difficulty) the challenge this past quarter was really mill throughput. We do a combination of some stockpiling (technical difficulty) we get good grades through the mill. But really the issue this quarter was around an extended mill shut that went longer by two days than what we expected in the conveyor that we had there. So don't (technical difficulty) that to continue.

  • And actually there's been quite an effort going on there, as Richard mentioned, in terms of the mill capacity work that's been done around the group. A lot of work has been done at Boddington to focus on making sure we get that whole mill production process up to speed. And we are really trying to push so we can achieve what we believe is nameplate or maybe a little bit beyond here through the rest of this year.

  • George Topping - Analyst

  • All right. Are you looking at that having bounced back so far in Q2?

  • Gary Goldberg - EVP, COO

  • I'm sorry, a what spike?

  • George Topping - Analyst

  • Are you looking at Boddington production through the month of -- has that improved in April?

  • Gary Goldberg - EVP, COO

  • I'm sorry, yes. We look at Boddington's production, without the mill shut down in place, getting back in line with what we would expect for the full year.

  • George Topping - Analyst

  • All right, good. Another question is on -- this is more -- this is for financial. It's the dividends to noncontrolling share (technical difficulty). There is none in the Q1. Has one been made subsequent to the quarter or was there none required to be paid?

  • Russell Ball - EVP, CFO

  • No, George, this is Russ. Those -- the deadline (technical difficulty) you see reflected in the financials is largely the dividend paid out at Batu Hijau. We have not declared one. We generally do it annually and do it towards the end of the year, so you shouldn't expect to see something until probably the fourth quarter.

  • George Topping - Analyst

  • Right. This is the noncontrolling interest?

  • Russell Ball - EVP, CFO

  • Yes. That's for the effectively half of the project that we don't own.

  • George Topping - Analyst

  • Right, sure. Okay. And then just while we're on Indonesia, if you could fill us in on the -- how the political risk is evolving there because I notice that's one of the areas where you were considering to invest more.

  • Richard O'Brien - President & CEO

  • Yes, I will start. It's Richard. So I think the political risk in Indonesia -- we've been operating in Indonesia for quite some time. As you know, we've been going through a divestiture process over the last several years. And as a result of that, we have almost continuous interaction with both the local community, who have an interest in the current shares that have been divested, as well as an interest in the potential shares.

  • The central government, who is the buyer at least at the moment for (technical difficulty) percent and we hope that that will close sometime in the next few months.

  • I think as we see that 7% close I think we will then be through the divestiture issues and then solidly into what does the rest of Indonesia look like. We think Indonesia continues to be prospective. Within our contracted work, we are going to explore it along, which we think has potential to be similar to Batu Hijau in terms of its output, but probably twice as big and half the grade, so obviously dependent on economics.

  • But we continue to look at that. Why? Because we believe that the political situation in Indonesia continues to support mining. We do have a contract award. The government has indicated that they would like to see certain forms (technical difficulty) that change, including the potential for refining more copper product in Indonesia.

  • And what I can tell you is that the one refinery that's available in Indonesia to process is full. So we continue to work with the government on what we're going to do next. If that's really what's going to happen, somebody's going to have to construct a refinery.

  • So what I would say is the dialogue with Indonesia continues to be a dialogue, but I would say generally it's been constructive. We have worked through the issues. We've been there quite some time.

  • I think on the ground we provide meaningful jobs and meaningful revenue to the government. And we continue to be cited as one of the most environmentally and I think financially in terms of filing our tax returns and paying on time, of any mining company in Peru, or sorry (technical difficulty) in Indonesia. But you could also say that in Peru.

  • So, to be positive I think about Asia, no question, we've got to keep an eye on what's happening there. And elections are going to be coming up there in the next couple years as well.

  • Russell Ball - EVP, CFO

  • And George, just adding to Richard's comment, the additional investment we've contemplated on and off over the last decade is around a third SAG, so a mill expansion at the existing operation in Indonesia.

  • And then just further on the exploration, we approved yesterday an unbudgeted request for $20 million for helicopter-supported drilling at Elang, which will give you an indication of our perspective on that risk profile, so --.

  • George Topping - Analyst

  • I see. (technical difficulty) Good, thank you.

  • Operator

  • At this time I would like to turn the call back over to Richard O'Brien, President and CEO, for closing comments.

  • Richard O'Brien - President & CEO

  • Thanks for taking some time Friday morning to attend our call. And if you have questions I know John and his team would be more than willing to take them. And we look forward to seeing all of you and even some people who aren't on the call at our (technical difficulty). Thanks.

  • Operator

  • This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect at this time. Thank you for your participation.