納斯達克交易所 (NDAQ) 2011 Q2 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the NASDAQ OMX second-quarter 2011 results conference call.

  • At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode.

  • Later we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will be given at that time.

  • (Operator Instructions).

  • As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded.

  • I'd now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr.

  • Vince Palmiere, Vice President of Investor Relations.

  • Please go ahead, sir.

  • Vince Palmiere - VP of IR

  • Thank you, operator.

  • Good morning and thank you for joining us to today to discuss NASDAQ OMX's second-quarter 2011 earnings results.

  • Joining me are Bob Greifeld, our Chief Executive Officer; Lee Shavel, our Chief Financial Officer; Ron Hassen, our Corporate Controller; and Ed Knight, our General Counsel.

  • Following our prepared remarks we'll open up the line for Q&A.

  • You can access the press release and presentation on NASDAQ OMX Investor Relations website at www.NASDAQOMX.com.

  • We intend to use our website as a means of disclosing material non-public information and for complying with disclosure obligations under SEC regulation FD.

  • And these disclosures will be included under the Events and Presentations section of the site.

  • Now before I turn the call over to Bob I'd like to remind you that certain statements in the prepared presentation and during the subsequent Q&A period may relate to future events and expectations and as such constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

  • Actual results may differ materially from those projected in these forward-looking statements.

  • Information containing factors that could cause actual results to differ from forward-looking statements is contained in our press release and in our periodic reports filed with the SEC.

  • With that I'll turn it over to Bob.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Thank you, Vince, and thanks, everyone, for joining the call this morning.

  • I'll begin by spending a few minutes highlighting our second-quarter 2011 results, then update you on plans going forward.

  • Lee will then walk you through the detailed financials.

  • The second quarter of 2011 was a solid one for us as net revenues reached $416 million, our non-GAAP net income was $112 million and diluted earnings per share came in at $0.62, 19% above our second-quarter of 2010 non-GAAP results.

  • These results again demonstrate the resiliency of our business model as earnings per share grew to another record high.

  • This was accomplished by the strength of our top line as net revenues grew for the third consecutive quarter and are up 11% for the first half of the year when compared to the same period last year.

  • With a sharp eye on execution we've achieved double-digit growth in net revenues during a time when ongoing economic uncertainty has created a challenging environment for many of our volume-related businesses.

  • When we hosted our Analyst Day in September of last year we communicated a revenue goal of generating a three-year compounded annual growth rate of 9% while maintaining constant operating margins.

  • As I sit here today it gives me satisfaction to report that we remain on track to accomplish this goal.

  • This despite the fact that our commitment of 9% was based upon an assumption of 9 billion to 10 billion shares average daily volume in the US equity market.

  • So far this year we have averaged a little more than 7.5 billion shares per day.

  • Our performance shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that closely follows our business since over the years we've demonstrated our ability to grow earnings.

  • On slide 5 of our presentation you can see that our earnings have increased impressively over the past four years.

  • Non-GAAP earnings per share for the first half of the year was $1.23, up more than 80% from pro forma non-GAAP results from the first half of 2007 reflecting a compound average growth rate of 16%.

  • We are proud of these results and the fact that they were accomplished by both organic growth and acquisition initiatives.

  • Our results also stack up very nicely when compared with the growth achieved by our peer group.

  • Now turning to the details of the quarter.

  • In Market Services revenue increased $7 million when compared to the second quarter of 2010.

  • While US cash equities revenues declined due to a 30% reduction in industry volumes, we were able to more than offset this growth with growth of Access Services, US Derivatives, Market Data and European Derivatives revenue.

  • Within Access Services revenue grew 34% over the second quarter of 2010 driven by increased demand for services and the addition of F10, the low latency pre-trade risk management product that we acquired in December.

  • The integration of this business is proceeding nicely and supports our strategy of growing beyond the match, which I'll speak to in a minute.

  • In options NASDAQ OMX continued its success as the number one in marketshare during the second quarter of 2010, the fourth consecutive quarter that we achieved this distinction.

  • Combined marketshare for PHLX and NOM improved at 28.9% as the number of contracts traded increased by 15%.

  • This continues to be one of our most successful businesses as revenues have grown 26% in the three years since we closed the PHLX transaction while marketshare has improved by nearly 12 percentage points.

  • In our European derivatives business we successfully rolled out bond trading on Genium INET for five of our markets, moving all fixed income activity onto one unified platform.

  • With this new technology we expect continued success for fixed income activity, building upon the 23% growth we realized in the second quarter when compared to the same period last year.

  • At N2EX, our UK power market, we continue to see growth in derivatives trading.

  • Volume in the second quarter of 2011 reached 680 gigawatt hours, up from 52 gigawatt hours in the first quarter of 2011.

  • Membership in the market has also grown with eight members having joined the derivatives market and 31 members in the physical market.

  • Moving on to the Issuer Services business segment, revenues continue to grow on the strength and demand for our corporate solutions which are up 21% from the second quarter 2010.

  • We recently expanded our product offering launching SocialStream and QTarget, two innovative new solutions for our corporate customers.

  • In Market Technology our business grew 35% driven by revenues from recently delivered projects and from SMARTS, our leading broker compliance solution which we acquired last year.

  • A notable contract win for the quarter was the Swiss exchange, SIX, which announced that it has extended its contract with us and will upgrade its existing equities trading platform through our X-stream INET technology.

  • This will enable them to realize significant latency and throughput advantages in all asset classes.

  • All in all it was a solid quarter for us.

  • Looking forward, as you consider the steps we've taken over the years to broaden our product offering, look at what we've done in Issuer Services.

  • To grow the business we moved beyond simply listing companies and began offering corporate solutions and licensing index products.

  • This strategy has proven successful as it has allowed us to grow while at the same time expanding the addressable market for Issuer Services.

  • We have redefined and enlarged our target market.

  • We have taken similar steps over the past three years in Market Services to more broadly define what it means to be in the equity markets.

  • At its core trading is about the match of service that we have excelled at.

  • But our expansive view of the equity business allows us to look beyond the match.

  • Our business is defined to include the infrastructure that you provide to the customers who need to be near your matching engine, data products you can provide, everything our customers require to compete in the equity business.

  • And the steps we've taken are evidence of where we're going -- free trade risk management, co-location services, Access Services, real-time surveillance -- all are part of what we've added to our equity business.

  • When you consider how broad the business is, our share of the equity market is relatively small.

  • We believe the total market opportunity for the matching business today is less than $1 billion of which we have approximately 20%.

  • However, when you consider other aspects of the business that I just mentioned, the addressable market for equities expands fourfold.

  • This obviously represents a great opportunity for us and one that we plan to capitalize.

  • To give you an idea of how this strategy has already contributed to our growth, consider the yield of the revenue that we realize per match share that we trade.

  • The yield that I'm referring to obviously includes revenue we generate from matching trades, but also includes infrastructure revenues that I just referenced as well as revenue from proprietary data products we launch.

  • Over the past four years the total yield -- the total revenue per match trade has actually grown by 25% despite the fact that the rate on the pure match has declined slightly.

  • Our ability to materially growth this yield during a time that many would agree was fiercely competitive serves as a proof point for the logic of our goal to move beyond the match.

  • We see continued upside in this strategy and intend to execute our plan to redefine and enlarge our target market.

  • Before I turn the call over to Lee, let me first say that I am not in London and let me address the recent speculation in the media regarding NASDAQ OMX and potential M&A activity.

  • Those of you that follow us closely know that we adhere to a very rigid financial discipline and, as a result, our track record of generating accretive transactions and delivering value to shareholders has been exceptional and essentially flawless.

  • This is a track record that we are very proud of and believe compares favorably to any in the industry.

  • It is our intention to maintain this discipline as we move forward.

  • As we evaluate current valuations in the marketplace today, including our own, we realize that there are a number of external and internal alternatives for capital deployment that we need to consider in order to maximize returns for our shareholders.

  • To the extent that external alternatives do not generate adequate returns, and at our current valuation these returns would be difficult to achieve, we will remain focused on the substantial organic opportunities to generate attractive returns on capital.

  • As we have always done, we will evaluate these alternatives based on the realities of the marketplace and our commitment to this discipline.

  • To wrap up my prepared remarks, I'll repeat the fact that the second quarter 2011 was a solid one for us and another positive step forward in the growth of our business.

  • With that, I'll turn the call over to Lee.

  • Lee Shavel - CFO & EVP, Corp. Strategy

  • Thank you, Bob, good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us today.

  • Our GAAP net income for the second quarter of 2011 was $92 million or $0.51 per diluted share.

  • Results this quarter include $29 million of expenses associated with mergers and strategic initiatives.

  • When excluding the impact of these items our non-GAAP diluted earnings per share for the quarter reached a record high of $0.62, an increase of 19% when compared to the second quarter of 2010.

  • Net income reported on a non-GAAP basis was $112 million, an increase of $4 million or 4% when compared to the prior year quarter.

  • Reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP results can be found in the attachments to our press release and in the presentation that's available on our website at IR.NASDAQOMX.com.

  • Turning to our second-quarter operating results shown on slide 6 of our presentation, net exchange revenues reached their highest levels ever, coming in at $416 million, representing an increase of $26 million or 7% when compared to the second quarter of last year.

  • Within Market Services revenues were $277 million, an increase of $7 million over prior year results.

  • Cash equity revenues were $59 million, down $17 million, primarily due to lower US industry transaction volumes which were off 30% year over year.

  • Net derivative trading and clearing revenues were $75 million for the second quarter, up $6 million or 9% due to higher marketshare within our PHLX and NASDAQ OMX options markets.

  • Also contributing to the increase are higher revenues within our Nordic derivatives business.

  • For the quarter revenues with Nordic derivatives were comprised of -- $11 million from energy and carbon products; $13 million from stock and index derivatives; $6 million from fixed income products; and approximately $1 million from other revenues and fees.

  • In Access Services revenues were $55 million for the quarter, an increase of $14 million or 34% from last year due primarily to continued demand of our services and modifications to our member oriented fees.

  • Also contributing to the growth and Access Service revenue is the inclusion of results from FTEN which was acquired at the end of the fourth quarter of 2010.

  • Within Market Data revenues were $83 million for the second quarter, up $4 million when compared to the second quarter of 2010, driven by stronger European Market Data revenues.

  • And in Issuer Services revenues were $93 million for the quarter, up $7 million when compared to the second quarter of 2010.

  • Driving this growth is increased demand from listed companies for our corporate solutions.

  • Also contributing to the growth are higher revenues from European listings and the Global Index Group.

  • Turning to Market Technology, revenue was $46 million for the quarter, up from $34 million in the second quarter of 2010.

  • The increase in revenues is primarily due to the inclusion of SMARTS which was acquired in the third quarter of 2010.

  • Looking forward, for the third quarter of 2011 we expect Market Technology revenues to be in the range of $44 million to $46 million.

  • Overall revenues for the quarter benefited from favorable changes in foreign currency exchange rates and the inclusion of revenue from recent acquisitions.

  • These more than offset a reduction in US cash equity trading revenues from a 30% decline in industry volumes.

  • Now turning to expenses, on slide 11 you can see that our total non-GAAP operating expenses for the second quarter were $229 million, representing an increase of $22 million or 11% when compared to the second quarter of 2010.

  • The increase in expenses is primarily driven by the inclusion of results from FTEN, SMARTS and Zoomvision which were acquired second half of 2010.

  • Expenses associated with these acquisitions contributed approximately $15 million for the quarter.

  • Also contributing to the increase in expenses was the impact of changes in exchange rates of various currencies as compared to the US dollar which had the effect of increasing expenses by $16 million.

  • So, when you exclude the impact of FX and costs associated with these new acquisitions, our core expenses actually declined by $9 million when compared to the second quarter last year.

  • Looking forward for the full year 2011, we expect total run rate expenses to be in the range of $910 million to $925 million.

  • This range has been increased over prior guidance due to weakening of the US dollar and anticipated incremental information security costs.

  • This guidance excludes approximately $40 million of non-GAAP expenses.

  • Overall results for the quarter yielded non-GAAP operating income of $187 million with operating margins coming in at 45%.

  • And moving on to net interest expense, in the second quarter it was $28 million, an increase of $4 million from the second quarter of 2010.

  • This increase is due primarily to the issuance of senior bonds in December 2010, the funds from which were used to partially finance the repurchase of shares in the fourth quarter.

  • And finally, on the income statement the non-GAAP effective tax rate for the quarter was 31%.

  • We expect the tax rate to be in the range of 31% to 33% going forward, a slight improvement over rates that we've realized in the past.

  • Now turning briefly to the balance sheet on slide 13.

  • Cash and cash equivalents and financial instruments at the quarter end were approximately $1,062,000,000.

  • Of this amount approximately $589 million is reserved for regulatory requirements and other restricted purposes.

  • During the quarter we used $14 million for capital spending purposes, bringing our total capital spending for the year to $24 million.

  • In closing, let me say that we are very pleased with our results this quarter as they mark another high point in NASDAQ OMX's track record of growing revenues and profits, particularly in challenging market volume environments.

  • This exceptional performance put us in position to take another step in a long stated objective of ours, which is to reduce our outstanding debt obligations.

  • Payments of $120 million this year have contributed to a significant reduction of our debt to EBITDA ratio which has declined from 2.9 times at the end of 2010 to 2.6 times currently.

  • Sustained strong cash flows will allow us to continue to deleverage and put us in a position to consider efficient capital return alternatives as the year progresses.

  • Thank you and I will now turn it back over to Vince.

  • Vince Palmiere - VP of IR

  • Thank you.

  • Operator, we're ready for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions).

  • Alex Kramm, UBS.

  • Alex Kramm - Analyst

  • Good morning, everyone.

  • Bob, let me start with your comments you made about consolidation in (inaudible) in particular.

  • I mean I appreciate obviously the financial prudence that you talk about and I guess you've shown it in the past.

  • But you've also said that if something makes strategically a lot of sense that you would reconsider the financial impact short-term.

  • So when I think about US -- I'm sorry, European equities in particular and obviously the LSE, five years ago when you looked at that you said like we are pre-method and we think we can help these guys get ready for the new environment.

  • Obviously that didn't work and then after that you went into Europe yourself with the [NDS] strategy which obviously failed a little bit.

  • Where do you think the European market is right now when you look at the incumbent?

  • Is that something that has stabilized that you think you can grow off, or is it still a business that you're a little wary of?

  • So, sorry, it was a long question, but [any comment is appreciated].

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Well, the first thing I would say is we're not commenting on any particular firm with respect to M&A activity.

  • With respect to the question on Europe, one is we're quite proud of our progress in the Nordics.

  • One is we have maintained marketshare at what I call a relatively high level and the team has done a great job doing that.

  • In addition, you saw that our Norwegian market has started to gain traction where we had 6% marketshare in July and 6% match marketshare.

  • It was somewhat higher if you take into account internalization.

  • So that's up 50% as compared to the beginning of the year.

  • So we're very comfortable with the strategy we have in the Nordics and we're certainly happy with the pace of progress in the economies in that region that we serve.

  • So we're steady as she goes.

  • Alex Kramm - Analyst

  • So any incremental comments on how you feel about the incumbents there is in general in Europe?

  • Not specifically to LSE, but in general the other ones in terms of the marketshare question?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • I'm not sure I follow you.

  • But as you can tell, we're focused on our Nordic markets.

  • The extension that we're looking at is in Norway.

  • As we said, we've grown it 6%.

  • And in our core Nordic market, as I said, our marketshare is running higher than we anticipated.

  • The numbers of members that we have increased 5% from year-ago levels.

  • Our co-lo penetration has nearly doubled from last year.

  • So we're very happy with our operational excellence on the ground there and that that's our plan.

  • Alex Kramm - Analyst

  • All right, fair enough.

  • Then I'll just -- one quick one for Lee.

  • Maybe I missed this when you talked about it.

  • I mean there was a little bit of a comment about the US cash business and some impact from some I think the market maker reimbursements.

  • Can you give us the dollar impact of that if you haven't already and maybe just a little bit of color what exactly happened there?

  • Thank you.

  • Lee Shavel - CFO & EVP, Corp. Strategy

  • Certainly.

  • The dollar amount was a $3 million reimbursement for a -- as we were implementing a new system there, there were some minor issues with that that resulted in a client trading loss of $3 million for which we reimbursed them.

  • So that's the nature and the amount of that issue.

  • Alex Kramm - Analyst

  • All right, thank you.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • I'll just add a comment on that.

  • It was -- the system was our automatic quotation system we use for the market makers.

  • So it's really the only time during the day that we're standing in for them and in many ways it's more akin to a vendor function than a market operator function.

  • So we had problems, they were clearly our problem and our problem alone.

  • Nothing like this has happened during my eight years here as I can say.

  • We took the extraordinary step of making this accommodation for our customers.

  • We certainly don't think that it will recur in the next eight years.

  • Alex Kramm - Analyst

  • All right, thank you.

  • Operator

  • Rich Repetto, Sandler O'Neill.

  • Rich Repetto - Analyst

  • Yes, good morning, guys, and congrats, Bob, on another record quarter.

  • I think Lee's got a pretty high bar being this is his first quarter.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • That's right, that's right.

  • We're counting on him.

  • Lee, you're up to it?

  • Lee Shavel - CFO & EVP, Corp. Strategy

  • I'll do my best.

  • Rich Repetto - Analyst

  • All right.

  • Hey, my first question is for Lee.

  • On the expense guidance, it's up, I'm trying to get my arms around the FX impact versus what you call the security -- increased cost for security.

  • Can you break -- like there's about a $12 million increase in the overall yearly guidance?

  • Can you break out ball park what's up from what, what percentage of the $12 million is from security versus FX?

  • Lee Shavel - CFO & EVP, Corp. Strategy

  • Sure.

  • Rich, as you can appreciate, estimating FX fluctuations is not an exact science.

  • What we're doing is we're looking at the overall weakness in the dollar relative to the European currencies, anticipating some sustained impact from that.

  • And in looking at the increase what we're estimating is roughly kind of a 50-50 contribution from the FX on the one hand and then I think most of the remainder is due to increased information security costs.

  • There may be some other potential expenses included in that, but the bulk of that remainder is the information security higher cost that we're anticipating.

  • Rich Repetto - Analyst

  • Okay, that helps.

  • And then on the new initiatives, the guidance modestly changed there as well -- new revenue from new initiatives.

  • Can you tell me how much has been already recognized in the first half?

  • And what -- I'm trying to figure out what that actually says for the second half because the revenue guidance looks like it's down a little bit on new initiatives.

  • Lee Shavel - CFO & EVP, Corp. Strategy

  • And I'm sorry, Rich, are you referring to the page on the slide where we're showing revenues and expenses for new initiatives?

  • Rich Repetto - Analyst

  • Exactly.

  • Lee Shavel - CFO & EVP, Corp. Strategy

  • What we're showing is anticipating the range and you're referring to the [$105 million] to [$115 million], the [$85 million] to [$95 million]?

  • Rich Repetto - Analyst

  • Yes.

  • Lee Shavel - CFO & EVP, Corp. Strategy

  • And so what that really is, it's not a guidance so much as we're anticipating a range of performance over the course of 2011.

  • And so as we look at the initiatives that we have in our portfolio, that's the range of where we think revenues and expenses are coming in.

  • We think that we have good traction on a number of them; we don't break those out individually, but that's our sense.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • And I think more precisely, Rich, we certainly see a delay in revenues associated with the clearing of interest rate swaps based upon the delays from the [CPC] and the rule writing and finalization.

  • Rich Repetto - Analyst

  • Okay, I guess I could follow up on that after.

  • Last question, Bob, I got most -- I think I got most of your comments on the consolidation.

  • And the only thing I would -- I guess the follow-up question, I heard your comment on specific acquisition.

  • Several years ago you did see at least the LSE is a highly accretive model.

  • It's very similar to yours, high expense saves.

  • If something changes that's still not the case?

  • Because you talked about accretion being critical to deals.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Well, I would say, Rich, as you well know, the world is different today than it was four or five years ago.

  • MiFID has come in; it has had its impact.

  • There has been a redistribution of trading volume.

  • Certainly we were of the opinion that that redistribution pre-MiFID could be centered around London and the LSE.

  • And clearly today the world is different.

  • And Chi-X and BATS and others have been more the beneficiary of that changing environment.

  • So, yes, the world is different.

  • Rich Repetto - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • Helpful.

  • Thanks, guys.

  • Operator

  • Roger Freeman, Barclays Capital.

  • Roger Freeman - Analyst

  • Hey, good morning.

  • I guess first, just in terms of, Bob, your comments around the total market opportunities beyond matching, those are certainly interesting.

  • And I guess is there any -- have you kind of gone back and sort of more formally thought about a go it alone/organic maybe with some bolt-on acquisition strategy?

  • Or are you just kind of communicating what has really been part of the stand alone NASDAQ strategy (multiple speakers)?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Well, let me respond to your first comment.

  • With respect to our redefinition of market beyond the match, it is certainly fundamental to our strategy.

  • And to me the data point that I gave out is clearly remarkable where our revenue per trade has increased 25%.

  • And that was in a period of time when there was abnormal pricing competition on the match.

  • So that strategy works.

  • We also have said for the first time very clearly that we think the market opportunity grows fourfold from $1 billion to $4 billion.

  • So we are focused on the $4 billion opportunity.

  • So we here running NASDAQ OMX know that we have to spend 98% of our time every day focused on executing our organic business strategy.

  • We certainly recognize that acquisitions will be a part of our future whether a bolt-on or transformative.

  • But they have to result from a perfect storm of opportunity.

  • So as I've said many times before we look at many, many different opportunities.

  • Our corporate development group has a broad mandate and that is to understand every single asset across every single asset class on the planet.

  • And so we have a point of view of them, and it's slow motion in terms of when does it get into the stars being aligned.

  • So we do what we do, and what we have said in my prepared comments is with our valuation today, those types of external opportunities are that much more difficult to show incremental value above and beyond some capital return to shareholders or investments and internal growth opportunities.

  • Roger Freeman - Analyst

  • Okay, but just to clarify.

  • So, when you talk about the sort of redefined opportunity set, is I think you said fourfold the $1 billion, so there's this incremental $3 billion.

  • That is -- you haven't gone back post recent events and redefined this as what you are seeking to gain a larger share of?

  • In other words, this is a continuation of what you have been doing, right?

  • And then on that point, do you need to attack that $3 billion to maximize your opportunity there?

  • Do you think that you can do most of that organically or do you think a number of maybe smaller bolt-ons are required to do it?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • I think both.

  • I think certainly think to get at the $4 billion opportunity, there would be continued bolt-on opportunities.

  • SMARTS and FTEN are, I think, perfect examples of those type of bolt-on opportunities.

  • Roger Freeman - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Now, I want to ask a question on the cash -- the US cash business.

  • So adjusting out the dealer, I guess, reimbursement, pricing was down I think something like 7%.

  • Now, your volume was actually up, given the marketshare gain.

  • That still seemed to be a somewhat large decline.

  • I'm just wondering -- is anything changed in the nature of the flow in terms of customers concentrating order flow to maximize their pricing discounts?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • All right.

  • So the first question, I'm looking to Ron and Lee.

  • I think it's more like a 5%.

  • Unidentified Company Representative

  • That's right.

  • Roger Freeman - Analyst

  • Okay, five.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Okay, and the second part of your question is, do we see any major change in customer behavior towards aggregation?

  • Roger Freeman - Analyst

  • Yes.

  • I mean, the point -- yes, the point just being that with volumes up 5%, I guess I wouldn't have thought that blended pricing would come down by that amount, even with the tiering.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Yes, I would say this, Roger, the answer is no.

  • And actually we see less aggregation now than we've seen in the past.

  • And some of the market access rules and the banning of naked access is contributing to less aggregation.

  • So I think it's just the normal ebb and flow of the marketplace.

  • Roger Freeman - Analyst

  • Okay, then last question, just with respect to capital plans, just to follow-on some of your other comments is do you still view stock repurchases as something that you may be pursuing again next year when you get your debt to EBITDA ratios down to target levels?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Yes, I'd say this, Roger, I think it's probably sooner than next year.

  • We've said that when we get our EBITDA ratio around 2.5 it's time for us to be thinking about what to do with the capital.

  • And if you look at the cash that we have on the balance sheet, it's getting to be quite a large number.

  • So we'll get down to 2.5 level sometime in the second half of this year and there will be time for us to think about it.

  • The other direct answer I'll give you is with the current multiple that we have we'll be more inclined to look at share buybacks than a dividend.

  • But again this would be something that our Board will consider as we get to that 2.5 number.

  • Roger Freeman - Analyst

  • Okay, great.

  • Thanks a lot.

  • Operator

  • Howard Chen, Credit Suisse.

  • Howard Chen - Analyst

  • Hi, good morning, everyone.

  • Congrats on the strong results.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Thank you.

  • Howard Chen - Analyst

  • Bob, just following up on this broadened opportunity set idea within Issuer Services, just curious who are you competing with in some of the new revenue streams or do you think this is new to market revenues?

  • And what next step should we be watching from you and the team to kind of evaluate success here?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • All right, I'll try to answer this as fully as I can.

  • What we have as a guiding principle in our corporate services business is that we want to provide products that make it that much easier to be a public company.

  • So we see a clear line of demarcation between the responsibilities of a public company versus a private company.

  • So if you look at all the things that we build for our customers or companies we've purchased, it's been under that broad mandate.

  • We also then are looking to lever the relationships we have within our listing companies today.

  • So we're trying to obviously walk the halls of our listing companies and stay within our power alley with respect to our normal conversations.

  • So in that realm we have done a very good job and you see that the revenue growth has been outstanding and we have great prospects going forward.

  • But there clearly are still holes in our products set given the two mandates that I established.

  • So you can certainly see that within our business newswire function there's a more fulsome product set that we think would be interesting to us and to our customers and we focus on that and other things related to it.

  • Howard Chen - Analyst

  • Great, thanks.

  • And then my follow up, just taking a step back on consolidation, I mean you made the joke about London.

  • But without naming names, I was hoping you'd just refresh us.

  • Strategically what business and regions make more sense to you to buy and what makes less sense to do a larger scale deal on?

  • Thanks.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Yes, it's a fair enough question.

  • But I would say one is we say that exchange mergers work when you can realize benefits of scale in your transaction business.

  • There are other businesses we're involved in, but that is really drives the majority of the synergies.

  • And so you have to look at how real and how achievable would those synergies be.

  • And to the extent they're not that large, not that real, not that achievable then we're certainly better off just staying where we are and continuing to deliver the results like we announced today.

  • So, we look for its situations where there's real synergies that we can deliver.

  • On the revenue synergy side, that's a long path.

  • We are now clearly gaining revenue synergies from our OMX transaction.

  • It takes a longer period of time than expense synergies and it's more uncertain.

  • So as we look at our models it's hard for us to score revenue synergies at any sort of level.

  • So we put quite a bit -- quite a large hair count on any synergy numbers we come up with for the business units on the revenue side.

  • Howard Chen - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks.

  • Operator

  • Matthew Heinz, Stifel Nicolaus.

  • Matthew Heinz - Analyst

  • Hi, good morning.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • How we doing?

  • Matthew Heinz - Analyst

  • We're doing well, thanks.

  • You guys have clearly been very successful in growing and wringing efficiencies out of this amalgamation of businesses over the past couple years and you've clearly expressed a strategy of trying to leverage your prowess in cash equities to generate top-line growth.

  • But at some point do you feel that you hit a ceiling with respect to scale?

  • And I guess how does your capital deployment strategy, whether in the US or globally, try to address that, adding scale profitably?

  • And then also if you could just discuss how your LCH investment kind of fits into the context of that question?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Sure.

  • Well, one is I think the message we're trying to communicate here is in our businesses we are doing an increasingly effective job of more profitably defining what market we should be in.

  • So we spent time today talking about moving beyond the match, which has been our effort for the last 12 to 24 months and it increases our target market size opportunity by fourfold.

  • Within our corporate solutions business within listings, we've been at that for about five years now; the revenue is now becoming meaningful and our growth prospects going forward are quite strong.

  • And when you look at that business, we certainly want to see corporate services revenue gaining parity with the listing revenue in the medium term.

  • So we have just a wonderful set of opportunities there.

  • When you look at LCH, one, it's important to recognize that we have a number of different clearinghouses through the planet, but we also recognize that it is fundamentally important to us to have horizontal clearing available to the marketplace.

  • We have that here in the states obviously with DTCC and OCC and allows an organization that like us that is very good at deploying cost effective, highly scalable technology, trading technology to be a beneficiary of that.

  • So we think it's strategically important that LCH survive and thrive in the new world.

  • And to the extent it does, then you can certainly see an organization like us being able to lever that horizontal clearing like we do in the states with quite attractive trading platforms to ensure there's a competitive dynamic.

  • So it is strategic for us that -- in any market we look at that horizontal clearing exists and allows us to excel on the trading side.

  • When there's a vertical silo then it's hard to compete on either side.

  • So hopefully that answers your question.

  • Matthew Heinz - Analyst

  • Okay, great, thanks.

  • And then regarding LCH, is there any strategic plan there to combine IDCG in any way with the capabilities that LCH provides on the swap clearing side?

  • And then I guess if not what are your plans for IDCG and how long do you expect to let this business run in the new post Dodd-Frank environment?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • I hear you.

  • Well, there's limits to what I can say based on negotiations we're having, but I would say that it's widely agreed that IDCG is the best platform in the US marketplace for clearing interest-rate swaps.

  • And it's obviously very clear that in LCH they've got the large open interest and the platform in place for interest rate swaps in that market.

  • And the combination of the two would be quite powerful.

  • So we certainly recognize that; I don't think we're alone in that recognition.

  • Matthew Heinz - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks a lot, guys.

  • Operator

  • Jillian Miller, BMO Capital Markets.

  • Jillian Miller - Analyst

  • Thanks, morning.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • How we doing?

  • Jillian Miller - Analyst

  • Good.

  • So you guys have rolled out a bunch of the Alpha Index pair options and I was just hoping to get an update on how the uptake of the new products has been and what your expectations are I guess longer-term for the complex just based on the feedback you're getting from users?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Yes, one is we're proud to say that we have trades every day.

  • And two I would say personally I believe to use the Alpha Index to basically invest in Apple's performance relative to the index is a pretty good opportunity.

  • But take that investment advice from where it's coming from.

  • So we know it's going to be a long slog.

  • I would say that we're pleased with the progress today.

  • We have a number of the retail firms that are preparing their marketing campaigns and their communication campaigns to their customers, that's where we expect of the initial uptick to be.

  • But it is trading every day, but on a light basis.

  • Jillian Miller - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks.

  • And then you said in the past that one of your strategies to grow your data business is to move from being kind of solely a distributor of the pricing data created on your own markets to a distributor of a broader spectrum of financial data.

  • And I was wondering if this data links agreement you announced recently is a good example of delivering on that strategy and whether you may have some other types of content agreements in the pipeline?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • That we do.

  • And again, I would say it fits very nicely in the theme that we're articulating during this quarterly call.

  • And something that we've been executing on, as I said, for the last 12 to 24 months.

  • That is we have to properly define the market that we should be competing in and we have to ensure that that definition of market is not just what we've done in the past.

  • So clearly the data business and the index business fit into that discipline very nicely.

  • The data business is a wonderful business for us, the same as the index business.

  • And when you look at the opportunity set once you get out of your normal box that you compete in every day, it is actually large and quite profitable.

  • So the announcements you see coming from the index and the data business are all in light of that strategy and clearly what you mentioned is part of that.

  • Jillian Miller - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you.

  • Operator

  • Dan Fannon, Jefferies.

  • Dan Fannon - Analyst

  • Good morning.

  • Looking at slide 10, you talked about the new initiatives and IDCG taking a step back I guess in terms of the near-term revenue opportunity.

  • Could you talk about some of the other ones where you might see increasing opportunity where you're kind of best positioned to see some kind of near-term revenue contribution?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Sure.

  • Well, as you know, in my prepared remarks I mentioned the UK power market, N2EX.

  • So that has not been a big revenue contributor, but the fact that we grew -- the gigawatt hours traded so dramatically quarter on quarter shows clearly there's progress there.

  • So we're very pleased with that progress.

  • PSX has turned profitable.

  • We're certainly not pleased with the marketshare that we have.

  • We recognize it's a step in the process, but the fact we're doing it profitably ahead of our plan is quite positive to us.

  • On the PMI Bloom Partners product, we had acquired Bloom Partners and we went to the drawing board with Tom Bloom and the team to come up with an entirely new way of finding out who's buying/selling your stock and that product is at this point very successful for us.

  • Dan Fannon - Analyst

  • Okay and then just thinking about other markets from a geographic perspective that you may view as logical from an organic growth, maybe leveraging some smaller regions in Europe based on kind of your presence there today without having to do M&A.

  • Are there other areas you could highlight that potentially are interesting?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Other areas of Europe outside the Nordics?

  • Dan Fannon - Analyst

  • Yes.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Well, I think as we work with our clearinghouse to make it a member guarantee fund and really have it be a Eurocentric clearinghouse, today I would call it Nordic centric.

  • And we communicated previously as we make this transition we'll probably free up close to $100 million of capital which will come available to us.

  • That's sitting there as a latent capability for us to leverage in our European operation and it certainly is our intention to do that.

  • Dan Fannon - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you.

  • Operator

  • Niamh Alexander, KBW.

  • Niamh Alexander - Analyst

  • Hi, thanks for taking my questions.

  • If I could go back to your comments in that release and on the call on capital allocation, I think we're hearing your signals on your interest in kind of doing higher multiple deals at this time.

  • Can you just help me understand your appetite or your capacity for repurchases?

  • Because we've seen in the past like once you hit the leverage that you're comfortable with that you're willing to deploy most all of your cash generated towards repurchases.

  • Should we think about that as a good run rate going forward or should we think about maybe you preferring to pay back down additional levels of debt over and above what you're required just to be a little bit more cautious?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • I'd say the answer is yes, Niamh.

  • We certainly will look to accelerate our debt repayment, which Lee and the team did some of this quarter.

  • And I'll just back up for a second.

  • What we said last year is that when we look at acquisitions and we had two disciplines before -- one, it had to be strategically significant; and two, it had to accrete within a year.

  • And we added a third.

  • And the third was it had to have a higher return than a share buyback.

  • And that, as we went through the share buybacks and the acquisitions last year, the third hurdle was the highest hurdle.

  • So that hurdle is in place today, so anything we look at has to be better than a share buyback.

  • The only thing I would add and I'll turn it over to Lee is that we had a one-time opportunity last year based upon a portion of the Dubai shares coming into the marketplace.

  • So the amount of shares we bought back last year was obviously inflated based upon the opportunity that presented itself to us.

  • Lee Shavel - CFO & EVP, Corp. Strategy

  • And what I would add to that, Niamh, is as it relates to our overall leverage levels, we do, as we've stated, have the intention of bringing our leverage levels down.

  • However, we do think the business bears a natural amount of leverage that we think is consistent with our current investment grade rating.

  • We're very committed to that; we think it's important for that business.

  • And so once we get to that 2.5 level we're going to be focused on evaluating whether there are adequate returns on reinvesting that capital in the business and the organic opportunities that Bob has described.

  • And if we don't believe that those returns are there, then we think the best return, particularly in this environment, is to return the capital via share repurchases or potentially down the road through a dividend.

  • So that's the way we think about it.

  • Niamh Alexander - Analyst

  • Okay, that's very helpful, thanks.

  • And just on that one and then my second question, if I could wrap up, and there was some restricted cash you had in the Nordic market and I do hope I can -- is it the end of this year that technically that could free up with around $100 million or so because of some rule changes?

  • Or is it the end of next year?

  • I'm just trying to (multiple speakers).

  • Sorry.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Yes, I think the target is first quarter of next year.

  • And that's as I mentioned on the previous call.

  • Our clearinghouse right now is somewhat a unique construction and we're making conform to the coming rules and really be in line with the rest of the European clearinghouses.

  • Two benefits for us.

  • One is it will position us to work with our members to introduce new products and work with them in a way that they're very comfortable with.

  • Two is we'll go to a member guarantee fund structure and that will free up $100 million and our target is first quarter next year.

  • Niamh Alexander - Analyst

  • Okay, that's helpful, thanks.

  • And if I could, my second question, MiFID2 -- who knows when actually gets implemented, but the discussions are on their way and theoretically it's just over a year away.

  • Are there opportunities in there that you're looking towards?

  • For example, if market data goes towards consolidated tape would there be somebody that might look to manage it?

  • Is that a risk more to your revenue stream or is it an opportunity?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Well, one is we'll look anxiously at the writings that come out, I think the current target date is October 21.

  • It's been delayed twice before, so I actually think this is a real date.

  • And so it's hard to respond conclusively until we see the actual document.

  • But certainly we're excited and we think there will be opportunities in MiFID2.

  • Niamh Alexander - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks for taking my questions.

  • Operator

  • Michael Carrier, Deutsche Bank.

  • Michael Carrier - Analyst

  • Thanks, guys.

  • You mentioned part of the expenses investing on the security side.

  • We've heard some of the regulators talk about clearinghouses possibly being systematically important.

  • A few of them have mentioned exchanges.

  • I guess I just want to get an update on the odds of that occurring and then -- it's kind of different than financial firms.

  • So if that were the case what would that mean?

  • Meaning you invest in security technology, raise capital levels, like limit consolidation so you don't have the same issue with banks where exchanges are too big to fail.

  • Just wondering if you have any comment on that?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Well, the first thing I'd do is separate the two issues.

  • The dramatic increase in info security is directly related to the amount of attacks that we receive every minute of every day against our systems.

  • So we clearly have to be at basically a [DoD MIL] level of security and that's what we're driving towards.

  • So nothing so much to do with the financial side, it's just that it's a Wild West of people trying to make statements.

  • And so obviously it's in the press for a large number of companies and us as NASDAQ are subject to those attacks as much as anybody.

  • And we're driving to be at DoD MIL level secure environment.

  • On the second question, within the US, right, wrong or indifferent, we don't have any clearinghouses that would be declared systemically important because we really don't have any clearinghouses.

  • So not likely to affect us.

  • With respect to our Nordic clearinghouse, right now we haven't spent too much time thinking about it we have to see if the new MiFID and EMEA regulations and see how they play out.

  • But we don't think that's something that would concern us at this point in time.

  • And I would say that the member guarantee fund set up for a clearinghouse is definitely where the regulations are driving towards and it's made it easier for us to have member acceptance of us changing the structure of our Nordic clearinghouse.

  • Michael Carrier - Analyst

  • Right.

  • Okay, and then just on the European side, both in terms of clearing and then the power market in the UK.

  • You've shown some good traction.

  • When you look at the opportunity there what inning are you in?

  • And is there anything over the next six to 12 months, whether it's on the regulatory side or things that you're working on with customers that you can see the step up in either the traction or the revenue?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Well, you know, it's interesting with our N2EX effort, it really hasn't been about regulation, it's been about the natural players in the market wanting a different market structure.

  • If you recollect, we were invited in, they saw our success in the Nordics and how we ran that market and what it meant to that industry.

  • And so we were invited in and we responded accordingly.

  • So that's not so much a regulatory driven opportunity.

  • It's about now just increasing the adoption, having people be more comfortable with it.

  • There are obviously players in the industry who don't see this as necessarily helping their business model.

  • And they have to move along as the natural producers in the industry are insisting that this is the way the market gets structured.

  • Michael Carrier - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks a lot.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • We had a step function quarter on quarter.

  • Probably two more of those step functions and we'll be in a very good position.

  • Michael Carrier - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks.

  • Operator

  • Chris Allen, Evercore Partners.

  • Chris Allen - Analyst

  • Good morning, guys.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • How we doing, Chris?

  • Chris Allen - Analyst

  • Good.

  • Most of my questions have been answered.

  • I guess just, Bob, I'm just kind of curious, you alluded to the Board considering a dividend.

  • I'm just wondering how you personally think about a dividend and what you might need to see in order to endorse that?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Fair enough.

  • One, as I said, my personal preference is towards share buybacks when we're trading at such a low multiple.

  • So I can't really be any more direct than that.

  • But there are limits of where share buybacks will go and we certainly believe that we won't be trading at this depressed multiple for a long period of time.

  • And then the dividend is something that we would obviously consider.

  • Chris Allen - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • Thanks a lot, guys.

  • Operator

  • Brian Bedell, ISI Group.

  • Brian Bedell - Analyst

  • Hi, guys.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • How are you doing, Brian?

  • Brian Bedell - Analyst

  • Good.

  • How are you?

  • Congrats on a good quarter.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Thank you.

  • Brian Bedell - Analyst

  • Couple of questions.

  • Bob, if you could talk a little bit about the US equities cash volume outlook.

  • Obviously we're in the $7.5 billion level and maybe what you think it will take to get to sort of an $8 billion to $9 billion level over the next year or two?

  • And then also if you can talk about the high-frequency trading environment, what you see over the near-term and then sort of long-term structurally in conjunction with US equities volume overall?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • You know, Brian, I would say that I ask this question to Eric every day and he never gives me the answer I need.

  • But it's a hard question.

  • I mean, I think on a macroeconomic basis it's not hard to say that we need some greater certainty out of Washington.

  • It's not helpful for investor confidence in terms of what we see transpiring here.

  • And all our studies show that investor confidence is closely correlated with activity in the market.

  • People have a fundamental belief in the economy when they are investing in equities.

  • So we need to get the government and their issues out of the news cycle and I think that will be a positive catalyst.

  • And that the underlying corporate performance has been stronger than is represented in the volume.

  • So I think we just had external noise holding it back.

  • And external could be not just US governmental, but obviously noise coming from other parts of the world, whether that be Europe or parts of Asia.

  • So we need some sense of normalcy and I think the volumes will come back.

  • With respect to high-frequency trading, obviously they do more business as there's more volatility in the market and we have seen some increase in that in the recent weeks.

  • So we'll see how that plays out.

  • Brian Bedell - Analyst

  • Do you see any structural changes in high-frequency trading over the next say one to two years versus the past few years I guess in terms of those shops?

  • Are they looking at different asset classes outside of US equities to play in or --?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Well, I think they have.

  • I think when you meet with the high-frequency firms the vast majority of them over the last five years have traded different asset classes.

  • On the positive side, we hope to, and I think we'll see more of them get into the US options marketplace and that's been a relatively difficult transition for them.

  • And on the positive side we also, as I said, have seen our co-lo cabinets in the Nordics double from the last year and the number of members have increased by 5%.

  • So as high frequency firms look outside the borders of the different asset classes we could certainly be a beneficiary.

  • Brian Bedell - Analyst

  • Great.

  • And then just on capture rates, a little modest decline obviously this quarter if you exclude the $3 million payment.

  • But I guess what's sort of the outlook for the near-term if we stay in the same sort of volume environment?

  • And then do you see any impact from the AMEX options mutualization on your business both in either -- on your options business both in either marketshare or capture rates in the intermediate term?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Well, on the equity side we see a relatively stable capture environment through the balance of the year.

  • And I would say with respect to the AMEX, whatever impact was felt has been in place now for two years.

  • So that is also a relatively stable environment.

  • Brian Bedell - Analyst

  • Great.

  • And then just lastly on the stock buyback.

  • How would you -- I guess the question would be, do you see more opportunities for bolt-on acquisitions like FTEN and SMARTS?

  • And then how would you view those against a stock buyback say in the second half or early in 2012?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Well, we definitely see opportunities for bolt-on acquisitions.

  • Again, they have to basically meet our three disciplines.

  • And if we do an acquisition it has to represent a better return for our shareholders than a buyback.

  • And we started that discipline last year, it remains in place.

  • And as I said with both FTEN and SMARTS, the highest hurdle was that hurdle, because they were both obviously more strategically significant, they had relatively short-term accretion, but they had to demonstrate that they would return -- have a higher return than the buyback.

  • So -- any bolt-on acquisitions we look at will be subject to that discipline.

  • Brian Bedell - Analyst

  • Great, great, thanks so much.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Jonathan Casteleyn, Susquehanna.

  • Jonathan Casteleyn - Analyst

  • Thanks, good morning.

  • Just a couple questions for Lee, if I may.

  • Can you just remind us of your stated quarterly pre-payment schedule on your credit facilities?

  • And what's your general baseline free cash flow generation net of those payments at current profitability?

  • Lee Shavel - CFO & EVP, Corp. Strategy

  • Sure, the quarterly payment amount is $35 million.

  • And then -- I'm sorry, Jonathan, what was the second part of your question?

  • Jonathan Casteleyn - Analyst

  • Yes, so net of that payment what's your quarterly free cash flow I guess at current profitability?

  • Meaning the results in the quarter, what would that spit out as far as free cash flow net of that payment?

  • Lee Shavel - CFO & EVP, Corp. Strategy

  • Sure.

  • Well, I guess if you were to take a look at our EBITDA calculations on page 20 so I can give you a fair approximation of our cash flow before interest payments.

  • And I think as you'll see on page 20 for the past three quarters it's been -- it ranged from $211 million to $219 million.

  • So I think if you deduct the $35 million from that; that obviously doesn't include the actual cash expense associated with paying down the debt.

  • I think that gets you to the number that you're looking for.

  • Jonathan Casteleyn - Analyst

  • Okay, great.

  • And then how much cash do you need to hold on the balance sheet to run the business or for regulatory purposes just going forward?

  • Lee Shavel - CFO & EVP, Corp. Strategy

  • Sure, we have a $150 million operating buffer that we maintain in addition to our regulatory requirements.

  • And so that anything beyond that is really excess cash flow.

  • I think as we've disclosed, that's approximately a $300 million amount of excess cash beyond our regulatory requirements and the $150 million operating buffer.

  • Jonathan Casteleyn - Analyst

  • Okay, that's helpful.

  • Thanks.

  • Operator

  • Rob Rutschow, CLSA.

  • Rob Rutschow - Analyst

  • Hey, good morning, everybody.

  • I wanted to ask about headcount.

  • I think your headcount overall has been around 2,300 for the last few years.

  • So two-part question.

  • One, how much of that -- how many of those people would be considered sort of front office or development type people versus back office or sort of maintenance type people?

  • And then secondly, is there an opportunity to reduce headcount going forward?

  • Your private competitor probably has about one-tenth as many employees and still offers trading in two continents.

  • So if you could address this.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Yes, I would say with respect to front and back, we don't think about it in that way.

  • So I don't have an answer for you today.

  • And our employee count is now also obviously inclusive of the acquisitions that we've done.

  • And I would say it's important to recognize that we run 22 markets and 10 clearinghouses around the planet and we're certainly quite proud of our margin of 45%.

  • And I'd also state that we recognize that the businesses we get into that our what would be considered not traditionally exchange businesses, whether that be Corporate Solutions or Market Technology, will in fact have a lower margin profile than is possible in the pure matching or data type exchange businesses.

  • So we do look at those two things differently.

  • Rob Rutschow - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And then a related question.

  • I guess historically you've talked about moving all of your exchange clients onto your INET technology.

  • Is that transition more or less complete in the technology business or is there more to go there?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Well, in the technology business we obviously have a lot of customers who are very happy with the previous generation technology, primarily CLIC; that represents growth opportunity for us in the years to come.

  • With respect to our internal use of our technology, with the conversion of the fixed income business to Genium INET, which I mentioned in my prepared comments, we can say that the merger integration on the technology side is now complete.

  • Rob Rutschow - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks a lot.

  • Operator

  • Ed Ditmire, Macquarie.

  • Ed Ditmire - Analyst

  • I have a question, any updated thoughts on a potential consolidation between Asian players and Western exchanges, whether they be North American, European or Transatlantic exchanges?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • No, I don't have any further thoughts on it, but, as I said, our view of exchanges, consolidation is not so much driven by geography, it's driven by what are the technology synergy possibilities, revenue synergies are clearly discounted.

  • The only thing I will add, and it's probably obvious to everybody, is when you contemplate exchange mergers you have to think, okay, is it politically feasible in the given regulatory and governmental structuring you have there.

  • So that question is probably front and center when you think of Asia.

  • Ed Ditmire - Analyst

  • And to just follow that up, do you think there would be very high technology synergies?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Well, you know, it depends on which exchange you're talking about.

  • We have a very strong Market Technology presence in Asia, so in certain situations the answer would be no because they're already on the best technology on the planet.

  • So it depends.

  • Ed Ditmire - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions).

  • Matthew Heinz, Stifel Nicolaus.

  • Matthew Heinz - Analyst

  • Hi, guys, just a quick follow-up, if I may.

  • Given the recent news of layoffs on Wall Street coming possibly in the second half, what impact do you think this could have on your data business and possibly your Access Services business and what's the typical lag time you see there?

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Good question.

  • We certainly have lived through difficult times over the last couple years and our Access Services and, I think somewhat remarkably, our data business proved to be remarkably resilient.

  • So we watch those indicators very closely.

  • So far no sign, everything seems positive and our recent past would lead us to believe that we don't have too much to worry about.

  • Matthew Heinz - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks.

  • Operator

  • I'm showing no further questions at this time and would like to turn the conference back over to Mr.

  • Vince Palmiere for any closing remarks.

  • Vince Palmiere - VP of IR

  • Thank you, operator, and I just thank everyone for joining us this morning.

  • Bob Greifeld - CEO & President

  • Thank you everybody.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference.

  • You may all disconnect and have a wonderful day.