納斯達克交易所 (NDAQ) 2021 Q3 法說會逐字稿

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Nasdaq's Third Quarter 2021 Results Conference Call. (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. (Operator Instructions)

I would now like to hand the conference over to your host today, Ed Ditmire, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today to discuss Nasdaq's third quarter 2021 financial results. On the line are Adena Friedman, our CEO; Ann Dennison, our CFO; John Zecca, our Chief Legal and Regulatory Officer; and other members of the management team. After prepared remarks, we'll open up the line to Q&A.

The press release and presentation are on our website. We intend to use the website as a means of disclosing material nonpublic information and complying with disclosure obligations under SEC Regulation FD.

I'd like to remind you that certain statements in this presentation and during Q&A may relate to future events and expectations and as such, constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from these projections. Information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ from forward-looking statements is contained in our press release and periodic reports filed with the SEC.

I'll now turn the call over to Adena.

Thank you, Ed, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. My remarks today will focus on Nasdaq's third quarter 2021 performance, the progress we're making on our strategic repositioning and updates on areas where we are making significant investments to address large opportunities. I'll also share brief remarks about the current operating environment before I turn the call over to Ann, who will provide further details about our results as well as an update on our guidance, our capital deployment and our corporate sustainability efforts before we move to Q&A.

Let me begin by acknowledging the Nasdaq team's dedication to our broader mission as we made notable progress in the third quarter. Their hard work has been critical to our success in delivering strong results for our clients. Together, we will continue our journey to become the leading provider of technology, data analytics, insights and marketplace excellence to the global capital markets and beyond.

Now turning to our financial results for the third quarter of 2021. Nasdaq delivered net revenues of $838 million, an increase of $123 million or 17% from the prior year period. Our growth was largely driven by 13% organic revenue growth in our Solutions segment, 14% organic growth in our Market Services business and contributions from our acquisition of Verafin.

We continue to make notable progress across key secular growth opportunities as illustrated by total company annualized recurring revenue or ARR of $1.834 billion, an increase of 19% compared to the prior year period. Within our recurring revenue businesses, we are seeing some of our best performances from our SaaS-based solutions. Specifically, Anti Financial Crime Technology is showing particularly strong results with revenues increasing 16% excluding the impact of Verafin. Verafin will begin to be included in our organic growth calculations next year, and we saw an increase of over 30% versus prior year in that business.

Additionally, in our Investment Intelligence business, our SaaS products, including the Nasdaq Asset Owner Solutions, which is the new name for the combined eVestment and Solovis products, drove the 13% increase in Analytics revenue. Our third quarter results underscore the continued progress we've made to advance our strategy and additionally, demonstrate the value capture from the flywheel effect, which is our ability to leverage the momentum in one business area to drive success in other parts of the business.

For example, our success in attracting the majority of the quarter's new listings and capital raise to Nasdaq drives higher growth in equities and options trading and multiplies cross-sell opportunities for our Investor Relations and ESG-related services. It also contributes to the vitality of our index business like the Nasdaq-100 and the NASDAQ Next Gen 100 indexes and enhances the brand's strength in other strategic growth areas of the company. As we continue to evolve Nasdaq into a high-performance technology company, each quarter that passes gives us an opportunity to reflect on the progress we've made.

A critical pillar of our success has been our ability to allocate capital towards our technology and analytics capabilities. Our acquisition of Verafin has established us as a leader in Anti Financial Crime Technology as we build upon our already strong foundation in that area of the market. In the third quarter, our legacy Trade Surveillance segment saw the largest quarterly order intake in the last several years, adding new business across all regions, while our market surveillance group signed 2 new clients for our SaaS-based solutions, including a new crypto exchange client.

Another pillar has been our ability to advance our leading corporate and marketplace positions. Corporate Platforms revenues increased 18% versus the prior year period, driven primarily by outstanding growth in the Nasdaq-listed issuer base across our U.S. and Nordic markets. It has been a record year so far for new listings in the Nordics with over 132 new listings coming to Nasdaq year-to-date. Additionally, the U.S. has experienced the best new issuance here in the past 2 decades, and Nasdaq continues to demonstrate strength with a 75% win rate for IPOs in the quarter and a 72% win rate year-to-date.

As our listed issuer base grows, we're seeing correlated demand for our suite of IR and ESG services. Within ESG specifically, we see continued interest in our Nasdaq OneReport and our ESG advisory solutions coming from every -- from companies at every stage of their ESG journey, including companies preparing to list on Nasdaq.

I would like to acknowledge briefly here that we are pleased with the SEC's approval during the quarter of our proposal to enhance Board diversity disclosures. While there have been meaningful developments to advance Board diversity across the governance ecosystem, we believe the standardized manner by which Nasdaq-listed companies will disclose this information will be critical to driving further progress. We look forward to working with our listed companies to implement the new listing rules.

Market Services is another area of our business where we are seeing that flywheel-related success. Our expanded issuer base benefits equity trading since our share of trading and average capture rate is significantly higher in Nasdaq-listed stocks than it is in stocks listed on other venues. An expanded ecosystem of equity trading in turn brings positive impacts to the options industry where Nasdaq led all exchanges in the third quarter in the U.S. Equity Options contracts traded.

We're also excited by the early progress we're seeing in the growing suite of ESG-related capital market solutions within Market Services. These include the Nasdaq Sustainable Bond Network; our European green bond listing service; our carbon removal marketplace, Puro.Earth; as well as the expansion of our Nordic ESG derivatives offering. Overall, our Market Services segment saw revenues increase 15% in the third quarter versus the prior year. And this was largely driven by increases in equity derivatives and cash equity net revenues, although all subsegments of Market Services delivered year-over-year increases.

Our Investment Intelligence business saw revenues increase 30% during the third quarter compared to the prior year period -- I'm sorry, our Investment Intelligence businesses saw revenues increase 15% in the third quarter compared to the prior year period. This was driven by a combination of geographic expansion in our Market Data business, higher assets under management and exchange-traded products linked to the Nasdaq indexes as well as strong new sales, higher client retention and take-up of new capabilities across the Analytics offerings.

Our index business continued its strong 2021 performance in the third quarter with revenues up 38% compared -- versus the prior year on a combination of both strong market performance of our most important thematic indexes as well as very material net inflows. We're especially pleased to see positive responses from the market to some of our newer products in our index franchise with notable AUM growth in the Invesco innovation suite, the new Mirae ETF tracking, the Philex semiconductor index and the Hashdex products linked to the Nasdaq Crypto Index. More broadly, AUM in Nasdaq-licensed ETPs launched since 2019 reached $13 billion at the end of the third quarter.

We are also unlocking new areas of innovation in our Analytics business to bring more data and transparency to the institutional marketplace. This includes a significant partnership announced in July with Mercer, a leading consultant for institutional asset owners that gives our asset owner clients broader access to high-quality research on investment managers and their various investment strategies through a simplified workflow, enabling deeper due diligence. We expect this partnership to expand our clients' usage of our asset owner solutions going forward.

While we continue our strategic journey, I would like to highlight next how we are measuring our progress in evolving the company at the highest level using 2 key metrics. First, our year-to-date organic revenue growth across the Solutions segment continues to meet or exceed the medium-term outlook of 6% to 9% annualized growth that we initiated after adding Verafin. Our 2021 year-to-date organic growth across the Solutions segment is 15%.

Secondly, because we are growing our SaaS revenues even more quickly than the 19% increase in ARR year-over-year, the total percentage of ARR that we are generating from our SaaS businesses rose to 34% at the end of the third quarter. This is up from 28% in the prior year period and continues to move us closer to our medium-term objective of 40% to 50% by 2025.

We are very pleased with the progress that our teams continue to make regarding SaaS contributions to our revenues, both organically and inorganically. Here are 2 brief examples that demonstrate our progress and innovation to support this growth. It has been 8 months since we completed the acquisition of Verafin, and our collaboration to date affirms our belief that this combination can accelerate new opportunities. This is particularly the case with larger Tier 1 and Tier 2 banks and those international banks from outside of Verafin's traditional customer franchise in North America.

The Verafin team is executing on its strategy to further penetrate Tier 2 banks, which we define as banks holding total assets of $50 billion, and we secured another significant win during the quarter through our joint efforts. While we still have significant developments in progress to unlock broader adoption among new customer groups, our early milestones certainly validate the potential that we have identified together.

Additionally, we continue to evolve our cloud-based data offerings with the launch of the Nasdaq Data Link in September. This new platform includes a comprehensive suite of core data covering financial markets, investment fund information and alternative data to every segment of the investment landscape. It's the perfect illustration of our SaaS evolution in a key growth area at Nasdaq, and it underscores our ability to give clients an efficient means to consume and manage market-related data sets in the cloud, which is becoming a standard practice for many users. Initial interest in Nasdaq Data Link is encouraging. The platform has seen daily average of 3,000 new visitors and 200 new account activations in the weeks following the launch.

Next, I will briefly address areas of our business where factors impacting the current operating landscape are particularly relevant today and in the near term. By and large, we continue to operate within the confines of the pandemic. While there has been slow progress to enable in-person activities and on-site client visits, it remains far from the environment in which we operated prior to March of 2020. We are however fortunate that our diversified business model allows us to be executing at a very high level across our operations despite the prolonged backdrop of the pandemic.

The logistical challenges of COVID-19 to travel, intense collaboration and on-site installation and integration have had their highest impact on the market infrastructure technology business within our Market Technology segment. We have had several complex clearing and post-trade implementation projects that have experienced longer time lines and have required more resources to progress. These challenges have slowed revenue recognition and have increased near-term implementation expenses, impacting near-term margins and creating short-term capacity constraints despite growing demand from clients. The second half of 2021 continues to be heavily impacted by this dynamic. And with this business having relatively high revenue visibility and clear capacity constraints, we know now that in the near term, market infrastructure technology revenue growth within the broader Market Technology segment will continue to be impacted in 2022 even if the underlying logistical challenges of the pandemic improve.

On the other hand, in our Corporate Platforms business, the pandemic period has created some efficiencies to the go-public process. Notably, IPO road shows have turned virtual, making them more efficient for companies and investors. The new efficiencies have contributed to investors' ability to evaluate a multitude of new issuers and have increased bankers' capacity to support companies going through the IPO process. As of today, the pipeline for new listings remains robust based on the number of active S-1 registrations on file with the SEC. Assuming current market conditions persist, we have a strong visibility into the upcoming 6 months, and we anticipate this momentum to continue as we enter the final months of the year and into at least the first quarter of 2022.

Turning to how we envision our ability to sustain sizable growth in the long term. I see 2 key elements to our potential future -- sorry, our future potential. First, we have evolved Nasdaq's businesses to focus on critical capabilities that are strategically important to our clients, and we have become more client-centric than ever. This evolution has allowed us to focus on providing the right data, insights and technology that our clients need to be successful across the capital markets today and tomorrow.

Second, we have strong competitive positions in very sizable markets with -- in the key areas of growth for Nasdaq. It is a combined serviceable addressable market of $20 billion across our Anti Financial Crime and Trade Surveillance technologies, our indexes and investment analytics solutions as well as our Investor Relations, governance and ESG services. Based on our traction in these growth businesses today, we are incredibly excited about the opportunities that lie ahead of us.

As I wrap up, I want to reiterate that we are entering the final months of 2021 with remarkable momentum as we make steady and consistent progress across our key growth areas and our foundational marketplace businesses. Combined with the favorable capital markets and macroeconomic backdrop, we remain well positioned to advance our strategy into '22 -- 2022 and beyond.

And with that, I will turn it over to Ann to review the financial results in greater detail.

Thank you, Adena, and good morning, everyone. My commentary will primarily focus on our non-GAAP results, and all comparisons will be to the prior year period unless otherwise noted. Reconciliations of U.S. GAAP to non-GAAP results can be found in our press release as well as in a file located in the Financials section of our Investor Relations website at ir.nasdaq.com.

I will start by reviewing third quarter performance beginning on Slide 11 of the presentation. The 17% increase in reported net revenue of $838 million is the net result of organic growth of 13%, including 13% organic increase in the Solutions segment and a 14% organic increase in Market Services; and the contribution from Verafin as well as the impact from divestitures.

Moving to operating profit and margins. Non-GAAP operating income increased 20% while the non-GAAP operating margin of 53% increased 1 percentage point compared to the prior year period. Non-GAAP net income attributable to Nasdaq for the third quarter of 2021 was $303 million or $1.78 per diluted share compared to $256 million or $1.53 per diluted share in the prior year period.

Turning to Slide 12. As Adena mentioned earlier, ARR totaled $1.834 billion, an increase of 19% from the prior year period, while annualized SaaS revenues totaled $620 million, an increase of 42%. Excluding the impact of Verafin, ARR increased 10% year-over-year.

I will now review quarterly segment results on Slides 13 through 16. Starting with Market Technology. Revenue increased $28 million or 33%. The increase reflects the positive $29 million impact from the acquisition of Verafin and a $5 million increase in our existing Anti Financial Crime Technology business, partially offset by an organic revenue decline of $6 million in our market infrastructure technology business.

Excluding a $3 million FX impact as well as the $7 million purchase price adjustment on deferred revenue associated with the closing of the Verafin transaction, Verafin revenues would have been $39 million in the third quarter period and Anti Financial Crime Technology would have been $73 million, with both our existing surveillance and Verafin's FRAML solution continuing to exhibit strong momentum. The revenue decline within the market infrastructure technology business was driven primarily by the planned roll-off of a sizable maintenance and support licensing contract with a customer who will continue to use our technology under our license agreement; as well as a decrease, more broadly, in change requests and installation revenues, a consequence of both a strong comparison period in the third quarter of 2020 and capacity constraints we're working through due to logistical implications of the pandemic.

ARR for Market Technology was $428 million in the third quarter of 2021, an increase of 54% compared to the prior year period. The Market Technology segment operating margin was 9% in the period. Excluding the impact of the previously mentioned $7 million purchase price adjustment related to Verafin, the operating margin would have been 14%.

Investment Intelligence revenue increased $36 million or 15%, all of which was organic. Organic revenue growth during the period reflects very strong growth in our index business as well as a meaningful contribution from Analytics. Annualized recurring revenue or ARR was $555 million, an increase of 9% compared to the prior year period.

AUM and ETPs licensed to Nasdaq indices rose 15% compared to the prior year period to $361 billion, including $53 billion from net inflows and an $87 billion net increase from market appreciation, partially offset by a $92 billion negative impact related to the previously discussed ETP sponsor switches. These switches collectively were associated with about a $3 million in run rate quarterly revenues, which will be fully reflected in our revenues for the first time in the fourth quarter of 2021. The Investment Intelligence segment operating margin of 65% is unchanged compared to the prior year period as we continue to make strategic investments in index and Analytics to support sustained growth.

Corporate Platforms revenues increased $24 million or 18%, reflecting organic growth. The increase was primarily driven by higher U.S. listings revenues due to the expansion in our listed issuer base as well as higher adoption across the breadth of our Investor Relations and newer ESG advisory and reporting offerings. Corporate Platforms ARR was $529 million and increased 17% compared to the prior year period. The Corporate Platforms segment operating margin of 42% increased 3 percentage points compared to the prior year period.

Market Services net revenues increased $39 million or 15%. The organic revenue increase was $37 million or 14%, and there was a $2 million positive impact from changes in FX rates. The organic increase reflects higher Equity Derivatives, Cash Equities and trade management services revenues. The segment operating margin of 63% increased 3 percentage points from the prior year period, reflecting strong operating leverage on higher trading revenues.

One modeling item to note is that for the fourth quarter of 2021 and January '22, we have waived the collection of certain regulatory fees for 4 of our U.S. equity options markets. This is in order to ensure that collection of the fees, in combination with other regulatory fees and fines, does not exceed our regulatory costs. Holding all else equal, the removal of the fee is expected to reduce our reported capture rate by approximately $0.015 per contract in the fourth quarter of 2021 and approximately $0.005 per contract in the first quarter of 2022.

Turning to Page 17 to review both expenses and guidance. Non-GAAP operating expenses increased $51 million to $397 million. The increase reflects a $26 million or 8% organic increase, a $21 million increase from the net impact of acquisition and divestitures as well as a $4 million increase from the impact of changes in FX rates due to a weaker U.S. dollar.

The organic expense increase has 2 main drivers: first, higher compensation expense reflecting our continued investment to drive growth and an increase in variable performance-linked compensation due to our outstanding results; and second, increased costs related to what has been a very active capital markets backdrop, including expenses related to increased trading capacity and marketing commitments supporting our listing clients. Consistent with what we said last quarter about expenses coming in near the high end of the range if performance continues to be strong in relation to our medium-term growth objectives, we are narrowing our 2021 non-GAAP operating expense guidance to a range of $1.605 billion to $1.62 billion from $1.59 billion to $1.62 billion previously. The updated range reflects the impact of strong and broad-based organic revenue growth in the first 9 months of 2021 on variable expenses.

Turning to Slide 18. Debt increased by $226 million versus 2Q '21, primarily due to net issuances of $259 million of commercial paper, primarily used to fund the accelerated share repurchase program or ASR; and a net increase of $19 million of Eurobonds from refinancing our 2023 Eurobond with a 2033 Eurobond during the quarter. This is partially offset by a $52 million decrease in Eurobond book values caused by a weaker euro. Our total debt to trailing 12-month EBITDA ratio ended the period at 3.2x, unchanged from the second quarter of 2021.

During the third quarter of 2021, the company paid common stock dividends in the aggregate of $90 million and repurchased common stock in the amount of $475 million, including the initial delivery of approximately 2 million shares of common stock related to the ASR agreement we entered into in July. We expect to receive the remaining shares related to the ASR in the fourth quarter of 2021 and for additional planned repurchases related to the sale of our U.S. Fixed Income business to resume in 2022. As of September 30, 2021, there was $984 million remaining under the share repurchase authorization. We continue to expect EPS dilution from the sale of Nasdaq Fixed Income to be about 2% in the first 12 months following the June 25 close but to diminish to immaterial levels after that.

Turning to Slide 19. I want to begin regularly addressing our focus on ESG elements of our business, both internally and externally, because we believe Nasdaq has an important set of opportunities in terms of our sustainability and external impact, and we have a strong momentum in executing against them. We're committed to the highest level of sustainability in terms of how we run our businesses and serve all of our stakeholders but also have positioned ourselves to develop high impact outside of the organization through our anti-fin crime solutions; our carbon removal marketplace, Puro; and our unique ESG products and services offer to our corporate clients as well as our efforts to further our corporate purpose through focused philanthropy and volunteerism. Our purpose is to champion inclusive growth and prosperity, and we have chosen to emphasize financial literacy and extensive entrepreneurship education and support within underserved communities throughout the U.S.

During 2021, we've expanded our ESG disclosures with new climate reporting and task force on climate-related financial commitments. Additionally, we have substantially expanded our anti-financial crime and ESG products and services capabilities, and we've received FCC approval for our listing rule promoting increased transparency on Board diversity. We have much to do to continue executing on our ESG opportunities, but we were very encouraged to see Sustainalytics, a leading provider of ESG research and ratings, recently recognize our progress in these areas. Our latest Sustainalytics ESG risk rating improved to a level that puts Nasdaq in the top 3 percentile of all rated companies. We look forward to updating you on a regular basis as we progress our ESG initiatives going forward.

Thank you for your time. And I'll turn it back over to the operator for Q&A.

(Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from the line of Rich Repetto with Piper Sandler.

Congrats on the strong results here. I guess you're having tremendous success with the annual -- growth of annual recurring revenues and the mix of SaaS revenues in there. And you did talk about -- you said you focused on the critical capabilities of your clients and more clients. So the question is, looking back, how important is equity trading and equity market share? Even though -- again, your revenues there are growing because volumes have grown, but looking -- an old metric was equity market share and revenue capture. How important is that to Nasdaq as you make this transformation?

Well, I would say every part of our business is important, Rich, and important to us. And so we do look at -- we examine every element of our business. Our core marketplace business really serves as our foundation for our ability to serve our clients in a lot of other ways. So we're extremely focused on it.

I think that we've seen some shifts in market share as well as just in a couple of different dynamics. One has been the increase in retail, which has increased internalization and just -- and decreased overall exchange's share of trading. And I think that within that, that's an area that obviously we're seeing some more work done by the regulators just to understand that dynamic. I think that the second is, of course, the launch of some new exchanges that have come forward, and they have actually primarily focused on gathering some of that retail order flow and trying to compete for it.

So we have really taken a very balanced approach in terms of being strategic in how we serve our clients. We want to make sure that we provide kind of a sustainable marketplace, that we do things in a competitive way but also create a sustainable advantage for our markets and for our clients that operate in our markets. And so we've taken, I would say, a very measured and balanced approach to managing share, managing capture and evaluating kind of the composition of trading in the markets to make sure that we're kind of balanced there. And that -- I would say that applies to both our equities and options markets and how we're looking at our share and capture and the dynamics there.

Okay. And then the one follow-up would be on market tech. You certainly explained the quarter-over-quarter decline and the pandemic impact. Could you give more color on sort of the pipeline and how long do you think this impact -- I guess if you could forecast that or just color going forward in the current -- if the environment stayed roughly the same, I guess.

Yes. Well, first of all, I do think the environment is starting to generally improve in terms of being able to travel a bit now. But we're still doing most of our client interactions on Zoom, and that makes it harder. It's also harder to develop kind of what I would call the top end of the pipeline, the top end of the funnel in terms of identifying new clients. But I do think we've done a good job of adapting there to try to make sure that we know which new marketplaces are starting to consider launching and how we can serve them.

So you're seeing that we are still signing up new clients, for sure. They are taking our SaaS-based marketplace solutions, which we're also pretty excited about. I think more than 90% of our new clients -- any new clients that's signing up for us across all of market tech, and that includes market infrastructure technology clients as well as anti-fin crime, actually, well more than 90% are taking our SaaS-based solutions. And that includes new markets launching in the cloud and taking our next-gen trading system. So we see a good pipeline, I would say, Rich.

And we also see that we could do more. And we definitely want to be able to identify client opportunities a little earlier, and travel will help with that. But I also would say that on the post-trade side, which is where we've really experienced most of our delivery challenges, those are harder to implement. They take -- they're multiyear programs. They always have been. But they are definitely lengthening out in time with our inability to be on site. We are starting to get on site now with some of our clients, and that's helping -- definitely helping to accelerate things.

And I also think that it's keeping us from being able to meet all the demands that our clients have. So we do see good strong client demand there, but we have to make sure that we have the resources to be able to meet the demand. So we've been working with our clients to kind of stage that over time. And that's what I think is going to -- is what we really were referring to in our comments around 2021 and 2022, is just that we see the need for us to manage through those capacity constraints before we can really meet all the demands that our clients have.

Got it. And congrats on the continued transformation, Adena.

Great. Thanks a lot, Rich.

Our next question comes from the line of Dan Fannon with Jefferies.

Wanted to follow up on the market tech component, and just thinking -- I think you mentioned some increased costs around some of the implementations as well. So the longer term kind of margin opportunity within this business, has that changed at all? Or is that also just kind of part of the temporary revenue slowdown more of a factor than necessarily costs on a go-forward basis?

Sure. I think that there are 2 metrics that we've provided to our investor base to kind of measure our progress in the business. One is just our overall medium- to long-term growth outlook on revenues, and then the other is this notion of the rule of 40, which is really a combination of the growth in the revenues and the EBITDA margin of the business. And so what our outlook is, is that we expect to be able to deliver 13% to 16% annualized growth over the coming 3- to 5-year period across Market Technology. And that includes the market infrastructure technology business and the Anti Financial Crime business together. And we do continue to believe that, that is an appropriate expectation of growth for the business going forward.

I think that the -- on the rule of 40, what we've communicated is that we wanted to get to a rule of 40, which is, as I said, a combination of growth in EBITDA by 2023, and we continue to see ourselves on track for that. So you have to think about this as a shorter-term or at least a nearer-term challenge that we're having to work our way through that part of the business that is most impacted to be able to get ourselves to a better growth state and more scalability as we sign more of our clients as SaaS clients instead of on-prem clients.

That's helpful. And then as a follow-up, on the index business, just to clarify the switches that has not yet to impact the revenue for -- as we think about the fourth quarter. And could you maybe talk about the difference in the fees associated with what's coming in, in terms of net inflows? I think you gave a stat around inflows since, I think, 2019. Maybe discuss kind of the different kind of fee thresholds as we think about the AUM mix.

So Dan, on your first question, we saw about half -- roughly half of the impact around the switches coming in the third quarter. And we'll see the full run rate in the fourth quarter.

Yes. And on the second part of your question, the fee base for the switches that we experienced particularly, one of them was very low. And so therefore, that $3 million impact was -- is a low revenue impact against the AUM that was switched.

I think going -- with regard to the new products we're launching, the fees that we are able to attract with regard to kind of some of our innovative products like the NASDAQ Next Gen 100, the crypto index and the semiconductor indexes are, to me, more in line with our normal -- our kind of historical norms. So they do carry a higher fee base than the AUM that we lost.

Our next question comes from the line of Owen Lau with Oppenheimer.

I have a question about your partnership with Sporttrade and the sports betting industry overall. Could you please talk about maybe the potential market size, such as how many similar sports betting companies out there that you can provide your surveillance technology? And then broadly speaking, could you please talk about your recent traction in the nonfinancial space? It looks like we haven't talked about this for a while.

Sure. Great. So on Sporttrade, there's a combination of what we're doing there. One is we have taken an investment in the business itself through our venture portfolio, and then we also are providing them the surveillance technology. And what's interesting about Sporttrade and the market model that they're creating is they're definitely creating more what I would call like a marketplace model where they're going to have market makers, they're going to have bid-ask spreads for different in-game betting opportunities. And it's going to be really an interesting market model.

Our surveillance technology absolutely applies to that type of market model. But actually, the module that we've created around sports surveillance applies to multiple -- the traditional model as well in terms of having kind of your own book and then betting against the house kind of thing. So I think that we can apply the technology to a traditional sports book or to these new marketplaces, and we have created a module that's specific to that segment. So we're pretty excited about that.

And we don't have a TAM or a SAM yet. And that's actually a good question, Owen. So we'll come back and think through how do we look at that SAM developing, particularly for our surveillance and trading technology for that segment going forward. But it's obviously very early days here in the U.S. for that.

In terms of other new markets and nonfinancial markets, we are continuing to support the crypto exchanges. I think we have 8 exchanges leveraging our trading technology and 9 leveraging our surveillance technology today. And then we also are seeing kind of fractionalized markets like fractionalized real estate markets and others coming up.

And there are actually several really interesting new marketplaces launching, and they're all coming on to what we're calling our Nasdaq Marketplace Services Platform, which is really a SaaS-based cloud -- it can be delivered in the cloud or we can host it. But it's a managed service platform where we provide the technology but also the infrastructure so that markets can spin up a lot faster. So I would say though, Owen, as you know, this is an early part of our strategy, and -- but we are definitely seeing nice progress. And we can provide you some more stats going forward on kind of new markets that we're launching there.

Got it. That's very helpful. And then could you please also explain a little bit more on how Nasdaq Data Link can expand what you have in Quandl? Is it related to like integrating the data in Quandl and provide clients with a more holistic view of data from different sources?

You actually hit the nail on the head. So think about Quandl now as like one component of Nasdaq Data Link. The Quandl data, like the alternative data that we provide to investment managers are integrated into Nasdaq Data Link. The technology that underpins Quandl is actually the underpinning of Nasdaq Data Link technology, but it also includes our market information, it includes some investment information. And now we're calling that Nasdaq Asset Owner Solutions data like on investment management funds and trends there.

And actually, you can -- a client could choose to put their own third-party managed data into the system. And we can basically become their technology provider, making sure all of their data is managed and available to them in a really, really nice modern API structure. And so it's really an umbrella way for us to deliver market information, fund information, alternative information in a modern API and cloud-based infrastructure. So it's really easy to use, by the way. And it's really easy to take the data sets and integrate them into Excel or anything else that you want to use internally.

Our next question comes from the line of Chris Allen with Compass Point.

I was wondering if you could give a little bit more color on the index business. Apologies if I missed it. I'm just kind of curious on the sequential growth that we saw in the quarter. Maybe you can give us kind of an updated framework on how it's breaking down between what's AUM-driven subscription and transaction.

In terms of futures versus the AUM?

Yes.

I think that it's a good question. So I don't know if you have an...

Yes. Usually, we don't give the specifics on it. It's about -- you could think about the asset -- the AUM portion being about 2/3 of the index line, and then the rest will include the futures portion.

Yes. And in general, though, I think what we have been doing now is in our statistics that we send out, we provide you all an update on AUM both in terms of net inflows as well as market appreciation. And as we said, it's really been a combination of inflows and market appreciation that have driven up the assets under management. I think it's 15% for the quarter. And then our revenues has been even better than that for the quarter based on a combination of those things.

And any color on the $12 million sequential increase from 2Q to 3Q in revenues? Just it's a pretty big number, particularly when -- I know there's -- you had a little bit of -- the $1.5 million from the switches coming out.

Yes. I mean it's really been -- I would say it's really largely inflows and market appreciation driven more so than futures driven for the quarter.

Our next question comes from the line of Brian Bedell with Deutsche Bank.

If we just start off with a question on -- it's kind of a broader question on crypto, but also anti-financial crime. So just the question would be -- the broader question is are you able to measure yet, and I know it's early days, your contribution from crypto broadly? Because it does touch a lot of different segments between the index licensing, potentially anti-financial crime mandates and then also, obviously, Market Technology. And then if it's too early to size that, maybe just give some perspective on how you see that developing across the segments and especially anti-financial crime, whether you're actually seeing mandates that are based on crypto surveillance in that.

Yes. No, it's a great question. So I would say it is probably -- it's a little early, but it's a good question. So let's take that back and see whether that's something we want to start to think about how we communicate to you guys. But you are right, so we have the crypto index product that has about -- as we mentioned, it's about $600 million of assets under management there. We have the surveillance and the market tech solutions. And so we will come back, too, Brian, just to kind of think about how we want to start to provide you more clarity there, but it is early days.

And on the surveillance side and actually, the broader anti-financial crime side, that's an area that we are really spending a lot of time on to try to figure out how we can provide broader services across our bank clients as well as our brokerage clients because, right now, the surveillance capabilities is really driven by marketplaces. But over time, as crypto becomes more integrated into the financial system, we want to make sure that we can provide solutions that meet the needs across all of our customers. So that's actually an area of active evaluation right now, and we're looking at that. It's a great -- to have 2,000 banks as our clients across the U.S. and Canada really does give us a much broader opportunity to think about how to serve their evolving needs there.

Yes. That sounds like an exciting growth opportunity. And then maybe just switching over to just a question on market structure. Obviously, with the new administration or not so new now, but with talk about different views on working on market structure, especially payment for order flow and -- I guess what's your view on -- if you have a view, on what you think would be a good solution to that? Obviously, we've talked about sub-$0.01 pricing being allowed on exchanges, if that's a potential remedy for the order flow situation. And then also, any other commentary on Market Data, where that stands given that the prior administration had put that rule in place?

Sure. So I think that with regard to the market structure discussions -- and I think the SEC's paper was, to me, an early first step in a long process of evaluating how to continuously improve the market. So I think what we were happy about with that report, well, a few things. One, they did a really nice job of dissecting the activity and understanding that there wasn't anything there that had -- I would say, that there was nothing there that really signified that there's any significant manipulation in the markets. I think the second thing is that they really did note that the markets were really resilient and very efficient, and that obviously is a good thing for us.

But they also did point out a few key areas of focus. One is the quality of the national investment offer. And the fact that so much more of the activity is happening in the dark, is there an impact on the quality of the national investment offer? And that's an area that we've been doing some work on. I think our chief economist published a report on that last week.

And that then tees to what are the incentive structures that underpin the markets. And so are we finding that order flow is being moved off exchange and brought into these darker venues because of incentive structures? And I think -- I don't think that the SEC necessarily drew a definitive conclusion there, but it's an area that I think that they will be focused on.

All we can say is we really believe in taking kind of iterative -- smaller steps, iterative change rather than big bang changes to market structure because it's such an intricately woven system that it's really -- the law of unintended consequences are high. But if they look at disclosures around [PFAP] or if they look at making some measured changes to the PFAP structure as well as making it so we can compete more for order flow, like sub-$0.01 pricing or other rules that encourage orders to come on to exchange and be lit, I think that those are all things that would be positive for us. But recognizing that we like innovation, we like variety and competition. We think that those are all good for investors. And so we have to make sure we're taking measured steps there. And I got the sense that they weren't looking at draconian steps and that they were going to take a pretty measured approach.

(Operator Instructions) Our next question comes from the line of Alex Blostein with Goldman Sachs.

I wanted to ask you around just the thoughts on sort of inflationary pressure we kind of hear in a number of different corners of financial services, but obviously, markets broadly, I guess, particularly when it comes to technology and technology talent. I know you guys don't have a 2022 budget yet, but as you're thinking about where your growth focus is and where you're investing and where you sort of make incremental investments, how do you think about that as a potential headwind? What are the sort of things you can do to maybe offset that or reengineer it, I guess, to some extent? Just curious to get your thoughts on what you're seeing in the marketplace.

Sure. Yes. I definitely think that there's been -- I think that we all know that the competition for talent is pretty -- at a pretty heightened level right now. And so we are -- we've honestly benefited from the ability for us to attract talent from all over the world. The benefit is that we have tech talent in the U.S., in Canada, in Europe, in Asia and Australia. We have tech talent kind of spread throughout different economies and different markets, which gives us more flexibility to seek out talent in markets where we think that we can do that efficiently.

But at the same time, it is a competitive environment. We do think that there's going to be increases in wage in -- I would say, wage increases as we go into 2022. But as you said, we haven't yet finalized our budget and our planning. So we'll be able to talk more about that on our fourth quarter call as we provide you with our 2022 guidance. But we are evaluating that as part of the need for us to compete for talent, but also recognize we have some benefits from having such a global workforce.

Our next question comes from the line of Michael Cyprys with Morgan Stanley.

Just wanted to circle back to the Nasdaq Data Link that you were talking about a little earlier. Just how might ESG data become a component or captured in the Data Link? And what's the opportunity more broadly for Nasdaq to become a driver of ESG standards and scoring in the industry? And maybe you could talk a little bit about how you see that developing in the marketplace more broadly.

Yes. Actually, part of Nasdaq Data Link is something called the Nasdaq ESG Data Hub. So it's basically information that we've gathered from third-party sources that allow buy-side institutions to get information that they need, whether it's climate-related information or other structured data, that helps them evaluate companies and industries. So I think that we actually are serving that up very successfully within Data Link. So that's one of the modules of Data Link.

But the one thing that we don't have and what we don't intend to do is become a rating agency ourselves. That's just not our role. We are here -- we look at it as we have an ecosystem that includes 4,000 corporate clients. They have a lot of information that they need to be able to provide to investors, and we want to support them in providing that information to investors. We then have thousands of institutional managers that receive our information, and we can deliver data to them either through ESG data link or through our Nasdaq Asset Owner Solutions where they can gather up information they need to make better informed investment decisions. And over time, we hope that the data that we're helping our corporate clients collect and distribute can actually be served up through our Nasdaq Asset Owner Solutions and not just to the rating agencies so that they can also control the information that they're providing to investors.

But I think that we are just not in the mode of actually being a rating agency ourselves. I think there are many of them out there right now. We have actually partnered with Sustainalytics to start to develop some index strategies that we think will be really interesting in the space. But that's kind of the role that we're playing as opposed to trying to be that rating agency ourselves.

Our last question comes from the line of Kyle Voigt with KBW.

So earlier in the call, you reiterated that expectation for the 13% to 16% annual revenue growth range for the market tech segment as a whole. But if we just narrow in on the market infrastructure business specifically, it's a business that has been able to grow quite strongly in the years before the pandemic. I understand there's some near-term challenges, but I'm just wondering if your medium-term revenue growth expectations for that infrastructure business has changed at all over the last 18 months or whether or not the, I guess, expectations are relatively similar and we're just trying to get through this kind of near-term headwinds.

Yes. I mean I would say our expectations are -- over the medium term, are similar to where we have been. And it's really just getting ourselves through these immediate-term issues that we're having, kind of managing our way through a more challenging delivery environment.

So -- and I think that the client demand is definitely there. Our engagements with our clients are excellent. I think our clients are excited to be able to leverage the next-gen technology we have, and we are delivering that to a lot of our clients. But we just have to work our way through some of these near-term challenges, but the medium-term outlook remains the same.

There are no further questions. I will now turn the call back to Adena Friedman for closing remarks.

All right. Well, thank you all very much, and so happy to have you on the call. We're very pleased to see that our business is continuing to deliver strong organic revenue growth. And as you know, we are really guided by our strategic direction, and we have a clear focus as to how we want to continue to reimagine markets to realize the potential of tomorrow.

So thank you all very much. We look forward to talking to you next quarter.

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.