MYR Group Inc (MYRG) 2025 Q3 法說會逐字稿

Good morning everyone and welcome to the MYR Group third quarter 2025 earnings results conference call.

(Operator Instructions)

I would like to turn the call over to Jennifer Harper, MYR Group's Vice President of Investor relations and treasurer. Please go ahead, Jennifer.

Thank you and.

Good Morning, Everyone. I would like to welcome you to the NYR group conference call to discuss the company's third quarter results for 2025, which were reported yesterday.

Joining us on today's call are Richard Swartz, President and Chief Executive Officer. Kelly Huntington, senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Brian Stern, senior Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of MYR Group's transmission and distribution segments, and Don Eagan, senior Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of MYR Group's commercial and Industrial.

A copy of yesterday's press release is available on the MYR Group website at MYRgroup.com under the investors tab. A webcast replay of today's call will be available on the website for seven days following the call.

Please note, today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements. Any such statements are based upon information available to MYR Group's management as of this date, and MYR Group assumes no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements.

These forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements.

Accordingly, these statements are no guarantee of future performance. For more information, please refer to the risk factors discussed in the company's most recently filed annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly report on Form-10 and in yesterday's press release.

Certain non-GAAP financial measures will also be presented. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures is set forth in yesterday's press release.

With that, let me turn the call over to.

Rick Fords.

Thanks, Jennifer. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to our third quarter of 2025 conference call to discuss financial and operational results.

I will begin by providing a summary of the third quarter results, and then we'll turn the call over to Kelly Huntington, our Chief Financial Officer, for a more detailed financial review. Following Kelly's overview, Brian Stern and Don Egan, chief operating officers for our T&D and C&I segments, will provide a summary of our segment's performance and discuss some of the more our group's opportunities going forward.

I will then conclude today's call with some closing remarks and open the call up for your questions. The strength of our long-term customer relationships and a strong market position resulted in a solid third quarter performance.

Our teams continue to execute projects with operational excellence and expand existing client relationships through master service and alliance agreements across our districts. Bidding activity remains healthy as we strategically pursue and capture new opportunities that position us for potential future growth.

The Edison Electrical Institute's 2024 Financial Review released earlier this month, projects that US investor-owned utilities will exceed $1.1 trillion in combined capital investments for 2025 through 2029.

More than $123 billion of this is forecasted to be spent on transmission in the first three years from 2025 to 2027. The report also found that electric utilities are on pace to spend nearly $208 billion on grid upgrades and expansions in 2025, the highest amount ever.

Growing demand for electrification, a focus on grid monetization and hardening, and technology advancements continue to be strong market drivers and could present opportunities for consistent success across our business.

According to FMI's 2025 North American Engineering and Construction Outlook released in July, chosen key markets for our CNNI segments are forecasted for healthy growth through 2025 and into 2026, including data centers, transportation, healthcare, education, and wastewater construction.

By expanding existing relationships with our preferred customers and strategically bidding and expanding work in our chosen markets, we continue to experience a steady backlog of work and could see potential growth moving forward.

As always, our greatest strength lies within our talented and dedicated employees. We continue to develop and empower our teams to reach their highest potential as we grow our company.

Our team members strive to provide excellence in safety and project delivery, helping our customers achieve their business goals. Now Kelly will provide details on our third quarter 2025 financial results.

Thank you, Rick, and good morning, everyone. Our third quarter, 2025 revenues were $950 million which represents an increase of $62 million or 7% compared to the same period last year.

Our third quarter T&D revenues were $503 million an increase of 4% compared to the same period last year. The breakdown of T&D revenues was $293 million for transmission and $210 million for distribution with increases in revenues from both transmission and distribution projects from the prior year.

Work performed under master service agreements continued to represent approximately 60% of our T&D revenue. C&I revenues were $447 million an increase of 10% compared to the same period last year. The C&I segment revenues increased primarily due to an increase in revenue on fixed price contracts.

Our growth margin was 11.8% for the third quarter of 2025 compared to 8.7% for the same period last year.

The increase in gross margin was primarily due to the third quarter of 2024 being negatively impacted by certain T&D clean energy projects and ACNI project. In the third quarter of 2025, growth margin was also positively impacted by better than anticipated productivity, favorable change orders, and favorable job closeouts.

These margin increases were partially offset by an increase in costs associated with project inefficiencies, unfavorable change orders, and inclement weather.

TND operating income margin was 8.2% for the third quarter of 2025 compared to 3.6% for the same period last year.

The increase was primarily due to the third quarter of 2024 being negatively impacted by certain clean energy projects, as well as favorable change orders and better than anticipated productivity on certain projects during the third quarter of 2025.

These increases were partially offset by higher costs related to project inefficiencies, unfavorable change orders, and inclement weather.

C&I operating income margin was 6.4% for the third quarter of 2025 compared to 5.0% for the same period last year. The increase was primarily due to the third quarter of 2024 being negatively impacted by a single project, as well as contingent compensation expense related to a prior acquisition that did not recur in the third quarter of 2025.

Operating income margin for the third quarter of 2025 was also positively impacted by better than anticipated productivity and favorable job closeouts.

These positive drivers were partially offset by unfavorable change orders and higher costs related to project inefficiencies.

Third quarter 2025 SG&A expenses were $66 million an increase of approximately $8 million compared to the same period last year. The increase was primarily primarily due to an increase in employee incentive compensation costs and an increase in employee-related expenses to support future growth.

These increases were partially offset by contingent compensation expense related to a prior acquisition recognized during the third quarter of 2024 that did not recur.

Our third quarter effective tax rate was 28.3% compared to 42.5% for the same period last year.

The decrease was primarily due to lower permanent difference items, mostly associated with deductibility limits of contingent compensation experienced in the prior year, as well as lower US taxes on Canadian income.

Third quarter 2025 net income was a record $32 million compared to net income of $11 million for the same period last year. Net income per diluted share of $2.05 increased 215% compared to $0.65 for the same period last year. Third quarter 2025 EBITDA was a record $63 million compared to $37 million for the same period last year.

Total backlog as of September 30, 2025 was $2.66 billion 2.5% higher than a year ago. Total backlog as of September 30, 2025 consisted of $929 million for our TND segments and $1.73 billion for our C&I segment.

Third quarter of 2025 operating cash flow was a record $96 million compared to operating cash flow of $36 million for the same period last year. The increase in cash provided by operating activities was primarily due to the timing of billings and payments associated with project starts and completions and higher net income.

Third quarter 2025 free cash flow was $65 million compared to free cash flow of $18 million for the same period last year. Reflecting the increase in operating cash flow partially offset by higher capital expenditures to support future growth.

Moving to liquidity in our balance sheet, we had approximately $267 million of working capital, $72 million of funded debt, and $400 million in borrowing availability under our credit facility as of September 30th, 2025.

Funded debt to EBITA leverage remains strong at 0.34 times as of September 30th, 2025.

We believe that our credit facility, strong balance sheet, and future cash flow from operations will enable us to meet our working capital needs, support the organic growth of our business, pursue acquisitions, and opportunistically repurchase shares.

I'll now turn the call over to Brian Stern, who will provide an overview of our transmission and distribution segments.

Thanks, Kelly, and good morning, everyone.

The continued focus on strengthening and expanding existing relationships with key customers along with executing our work to their expectations led to solid third quarter results in our TND segment.

We continue to see steady bidding activity and are pleased with our strong backlog consisting of master service agreements and a healthy mix of various sized projects.

This quarter, Ellie Myers was awarded a mid-size transmission line rebuild project in North Carolina as well as substation and transmission work in Iowa.

In addition, high country line construction on multiple transmission line projects in the Midwest, while ES Boulis and Harlan Electric were awarded substation and transmission work respectively throughout the Northeast.

Great Southwestern Construction received transmission line and substation Project awards in Texas with Sturgeon Electric winning work in Arizona, Oregon, and Alaska. As Rick mentioned, we are seeing significant investments in electrical infrastructure throughout North America.

Utilities continue to invest in upgrading and expanding their electric infrastructure, driven by several factors including aging infrastructure, concern over resiliency and reliability, and the need to accommodate larger low growth.

After roughly two decades of flat electricity demand, it is now growing rapidly and driving the need for electric infrastructure investments.

According to Power Insights 2025 North American Transmission market forecast released in September.

The report forecasts 9.1% compound annual growth rate and transmission spending from 2024 to 2029.

In summary, we believe these encouraging forecasts could generate growth opportunities for our business as we continue a firm dedication to our customers and a strict adherence to our operating principles. I would like to thank all of our talented employees for their commitment and effort in making our success possible.

I will now turn the call over to Don Egan who will provide an overview of our commercial and industrial segment.

Thanks, Brian, and good morning everyone.

Our C&I segment achieved solid results in the third quarter thanks to the strength of our chosen core markets. We continue to strategically monitor and pursue new opportunities in a healthy bidding environment while executing projects of various sizes in close collaboration with our valued customers.

Recent market outlooks suggest positive indicators for the segment. The Dodge Momentum index increased 3.4% in September, and commercial planning expanded 4.7% in the same period.

Year-to-date, the DMI is up 33% from the average reading over the same period in 2024. The unprecedented growth in spending on data centers is expected to continue at an elevated pace.

According to the American Institute of Architects, the AIA July 2025 consensus construction forecasts reported that after increasing more than 50% in 2024, data center spending is expected to grow by an additional 20% in 2026.

These encouraging forecasts could generate growth for our business, and we continue to leverage our expertise to place us in a leading position to win opportunities in these markets while bolstering our our strategy to remain diversified across our chosen core markets.

In the third quarter, our teams across all subsidiaries earned multiple awards and secured new work in each of our core markets. This includes wins in data centers, healthcare, clean energy, warehousing, higher education, and transportation.

These achievements reflect our continued momentum and strong market presence across the US and Canada.

To conclude, our chosen core markets are healthy, and the strength of our customer relationships continue to generate additional opportunities. This is thanks to our committed employees and their daily dedication to executing projects with a safety first mindset.

Thanks everyone for your time today. I will now turn the call back to Rick, who will provide us with some closing comments.

Thank you for those updates, Kelly, Brian, and Don. Due to the strength of our core markets and our ability to bolster and broaden our customer relationships to create growth opportunities, we are proud of our third quarter performance.

Our focus remains on safely executing projects, strategically bidding opportunities, and meeting the needs of our customers as they adapt to dynamic market conditions and a shifting energy landscape.

This is supported by our continued investment and development of our teams across the company as our people enable us to maintain our status as an industry leader by the work they perform every day. A commitment to our employees and customers is the foundation we build from to remain a strong and agile partner for customers.

I would like to extend a thank you to our employees for their invaluable contributions and to our shareholders for your continued support of MYR Group. I look forward to connecting you within the future quarters, operator, we are now ready to open the call up for your comments and questions.

(Operator Instructions)

First question comes from Sangeeta Jain of KeyBank. Your line is open.

Great, thank you. Good morning and thanks for taking my questions. So first, if I can ask on C&I margins, they were considerably stronger than they have been in the recent quarters even though you had a negative change order.

So can you talk a little bit about that and how we should think about those C&I margins going forward?

I would say, yeah, I would say we did have a slight negative there, but overall we had some positive adjustments too, so our margins were a little higher than what we projected coming into this year. I think as we look to next year, I would say our margin profile is probably, we've always said it's going to be.

That 4% to 6% in the past and I think as we look into next year it'll kind of go to the mid range of kind of that 5% to 7.5% so we're upping that a little bit as we forecast out next year with probably, 10% growth both in our C&I and T&D areas.

So 10% core growth, sorry, go ahead.

Kelly.

I was just going to say to elaborate, just looking at full year for C&I, given that we have been trending a little higher, we are expecting that we'll be in the upper half of, the target range for this year of the 4% to 6% for full year 25, and then, as Rick mentioned looking to to raise that expectation for next year to that 5% to 7.5% range.

Okay, did I just hear Rick say 10% for next year? No, or did I get that wrong?

I would look for 10% revenue growth.

10% revenue growth company wide.

Yes.

Okay, great, but 5% to 7.5% C&I.

Yeah, with our margin profile remaining the same on T&D that 7% to 10.5% and probably operate in the middish range of those those numbers just because we're not seeing the large projects really rolling till 2027.

Okay, that's helpful. And then, appreciate the breakdown of the new awards in the quarter on the TND side. Does how sizable are they in the sense that does that change your breakdown between MSA and non MSA work in that segment?

No, we really didn't speak anything about large projects coming into our backlog so it's small and mid-size, so somewhere in that same range, where we've been, I would say is kind of how we're forecasting it for this next quarter.

Okay, got it.

Thank you. I appreciate you letting me ask questions.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And our next question comes from Andrew Whitman of Baird. Your line is open.

Hi Greg, good morning and thanks for taking our questions here.

Everybody wants to talk about data centers, so let's talk about data centers. I mean, obviously this is a growth and market for electricians, broadly speaking, Rick, in the past when we've talked to you about this, you're like totally see the opportunity there, you're open to it.

You've always said we don't want to abandon our our legacy customers everywhere else as well so just kinda wanted to get an update on your view here. Is this market evolving faster and bigger than you maybe thought six months ago?

And how has your company approaching the data center opportunity? Are you going to go for it directly or wait for overall demand? To lift demand for the types of services you offer and still compete in the traditional markets as well. I'm just wondering if you talk about that.

Maybe the simple way of asking that question, of course, is do you expect the data center as a percentage of your DNI mix to materially increase or not?

I think you know as we go forward, data centers could could increase, but you know our other core markets are very strong too within C&I. So when we talked about the overall, markets we're in, whether it's waste water or hospitals or. Solar even on that side that we see good growth opportunities there.

So, really not focused on just data centers but again a lot of good opportunities going forward, but I don't see that outpacing the other segments at this point.

Got it. Okay, and then I guess, I wanted to follow-up on, your balance sheet and your ability and desire to deploy capital. Obviously balance sheet, like normal is in a very good spot here. Historically you've done some M&A pretty consistently over the years.

But the dynamics and the growth rates behind your business have changed and I've got to think the multiples like your own stocks multiple are up.

I was just wondering kind of like what you're seeing out there and your and your desire as well as your ability to deploy M&A capital in an environment like this where prices are up. What do you think?

The multiples are definitely up. I mean, as you said, there are multiples up, but when we look at it, for us it's really just focused on that right strategic fit.

There's opportunities out there, but again, it's got to fit us, from a cultural fit and then from a a structural fit. So we continue to look at them and evaluate them and.

There's quite a bit of activity out there, so that's positive and you know hopefully we can capitalize on the right opportunity, but our balance sheet enables us to really go after, any acquisition. We've always said that, our kind of goal is to anything within that annual revenue of $500 million to $600 million is kind of our target.

We're not looking for something transformational, but again, we continue to see good activity in that market, just trying to find the right fit.

Thanks a lot.

Thank you.

And our next question comes from John Bratz of KCCA. Your line is open.

Morning everyone.

Rick, on the margin, profile for the C&I segment, increase the range a little bit. Does that reflect, market conditions or execution?

I would say both. I think our, we're always focused on execution, how how we better improve our performance out there, but also seeing, some market. I guess ex expansion in our margins within the market, so we push margins every chance we get, but we're also focused on our own performance.

So I would say it's a mixture of the two.

Okay. And then industry-wide in the utility and the TND segment, every time you read a report from from utility companies, they talk about accelerating spending plans and I guess from an overall perspective, Rick, does the, is there enough labor out there to meet this demand that seems to be forthcoming and if not, is there going to be some opportunity to take some additional margin?

Well, we hope, we definitely hope so, and that's the way we've always said it. I mean, as we look at it into this market, it's an elongated market and it's going to go out for years.

Not all these projects are going to be built overnight and it's just not the labor side, it's also the material shortages or those time delays on that material coming in. So I would say those cycles on material aren't getting any shorter.

So I think it's a balancing act between kind of, the labor availability in the market, but also the material availability. So I would say a lots of early conversations with our clients, very positive on the conversation, but really, none of our customers are concerned about what they're going to build more or less than 26.

They're more concerned about what they're going to build in 27, 28, 29, and beyond. So very good conversations going on.

Okay, all right, thank you, Rick.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And our next question comes from Brian Brophy of Stifel. Your line is open.

Thanks. Good morning. Appreciate you taking the question. I appreciate the thoughts on 2026. I'm curious if you're expecting any change to some of the high single-digit growth, excluding solar and TND and C&I that you've communicated for this year.

As Kelly said, we're running a little ahead of that on, the TND side. C&I is right in that range for kind of that overall revenue growth, so we see that coming in maybe a little stronger on the C&I or on the TND side and kind of maintaining where we're at on the C&I side this year.

And so we're at 10% so far year-to-date on C&I.

Got it. That's helpful. And then just curious the latest you're hearing from your customers on large transmission project opportunities and what that outlook could look like as we look out a couple of years. Thanks.

It's strong on that side. I would say lots of good conversations going on, lots of good activity. We're doing a lot of budgeting with our clients, a lot of working with our clients on on longer-term projects. So again, remains a very active market.

Those projects, as I said before, they're large projects that we're discussing aren't going to start in 26, but they'll start in 27, 28, 29, and we're even having conversations with clients on projects that go out past them.

Appreciate it. I'll pass it on.

Thank you.

And our next question comes from Adi Modak of Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Hey, good morning guys. Rick, can I ask you for directional comments relative to that 10% overall revenue growth you talked about for 26?

Is that a decent bogie for a run rate expectation based on everything that you're seeing in the market, or what factors would you ask us to consider as we think about that?

Well, I would say it doesn't have a, that we don't forecast a dip in the economy or a dip in anything going forward with our clients as far as pulling back work when we look at the project availability and the current market, I would say that's how we're forecasting it right now with that kind of 10% overall growth and pretty equally spread between C&I and T&D as we see it today.

Got it. That's super helpful. And then maybe Kelly one for you, no buybacks this quarter. Just curious if there's anything to point out there or, point out in terms of, related to near term capital allocation program.

Sure, so you're right, we did announce that program at the last earnings call for another $75 million and we continue to look at that opportunistically, so it remains part of our capital allocation strategy, but I would say, as usual we are prioritizing, directing capital towards growth, so.

On the organic side that comes in the form of both our capital expenditures, which you could see this quarter did trend a little higher. Part of that was timing from earlier in the year, but part of that is to support that longer-term growth that we see, particularly on the TND side, which is of course the more capital intensive side of the business.

So you know that we could see running closer to 3% of revenue given the growth opportunity that's out there and then I would say, back to Rick's answer to the earlier question, we're also in a really good position to pursue acquisitions that are the right fit, so continue to be active in evaluating opportunities there.

So I think you know just to summary, as I say we're in a great position to do all three.

Yeah.

That's.

Very.

Helpful.

Thank you. I appreciate it.

Thank you.

And our next question comes from Julian Demole Smith of Jeffrey's. Your line is open.

Yeah, hi, good morning. It's Brian Russau on for Julian.

Hey, just to follow-up on the TND segment. How should we think about, your current MSAs or new or or potentially enhanced MSAs with the with the upward CapEx provisions that we're seeing with many of your large utility customers already this this quarter, is that part of what might be driving the 10% growth in that segment in '26 over high single-digits in '25?

Yeah, that's definitely a component of it as we look at that. Most of our customers are forecasting, some increased spend next year and as we said then in future years beyond that we'll see some large projects hopefully come into the mix, but I would say it's increased spend on MSA is a good component of that.

And with the whole, lighter labor shortage, maybe backdrop in the in the latter years and say 27, 28, when you resign your MSAs, do you have more, leverage, in terms of the the premium for skilled labor, or should we just kind of assume similar, margins as they are today?

Well, I think we're always, pushing on our performance to to outperform where we've been, but with that being said, 90% over 90% of our clients are return clientele, so we're always going to treat those clients there.

We're going to look at our productivity side and we're going to TRY to enhance our margins where we can, but again, always treating our customers fairly.

And then lastly, I appreciate, the project discussions at TND earlier.

Could you kind of triangulate any of those projects that might be more significant than others or or what was added to the September backlog or that is still to be added?

I would say, our backlog we always capture it at a month end. So again, it's always going to be lumpy at any given time. I think when you're looking at, as we said, no large project came into it. Brian talked about some of the projects, smaller and mid-size projects that were captured, and you see that.

Continuing, but again, we, I would say we don't get down to a customer by customer but good activity in all the markets we're in and we pretty much have coast to coast coverage a little bit into Canada, so, pretty excited about the opportunities that lie in front of us.

Okay, great.

Thank you very much.

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions in the queue. I would now like to turn the call back over to Rick Schwartz for any additional or closing remarks.

Conclude, on behalf of Kelly, Brian, Dawn, and myself, I sincerely thank you for joining us on the call today. I don't have anything further, and we look forward to working with you in the future and speaking with you again on our next conference call. Until then, stay safe.

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you for your participation and you may now disconnect.