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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the MaxLinear Q1 earnings conference call. (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. And at this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Nick Kormeluk with MaxLinear. Please go ahead, sir.

  • Nick Kormeluk - IR

  • Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's conference call to discuss MaxLinear's first-quarter 2014 financial results. Today's call is being hosted by Dr. Kishore Seendripu, CEO; and Adam Spice, CFO.

  • During the course of this conference call we may make projections or other statements regarding future conditions or events relating to our products and business. Among these statements we will provide information relating to our current expectations for the second-quarter 2014 revenue, including expectations for revenue growth in our cable, terrestrial, satellite, and other target markets; gross profit percentage and our operating expenses; and our current views regarding trends in our markets, including our views of the potential growth in our cable, terrestrial, and satellite markets.

  • These statements are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws, and actual results may differ materially from results reflected in these forward-looking statements. We are subject to substantial risks and uncertainties that could adversely affect our future results.

  • Our business and future operating results could be adversely affected if our current target markets, including terrestrial cable and satellite markets do not grow. Or if we are not successful in expanding our targeted addressable markets through the introduction of new products.

  • In addition, substantial competition in our industry, potential declines in average selling prices, risks relating to intellectual property protection and outstanding intellectual property litigation, and cyclicality in the semiconductor industry could adversely affect future operating results. A more detailed discussion of these risk factors and other factors you should consider in evaluating MaxLinear and its prospects is included under the caption Risk Factors in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, in particular our most recently filed 10-K for 2013. And our soon to be filed 10-Q for the first quarter 2014.

  • These forward-looking statements are made as of today, and MaxLinear does not currently intend and has no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements. The first-quarter of 2014 earnings release is available on the Company website at MaxLinear.com.

  • In addition, MaxLinear reports gross profit, income or loss from operations, and net income loss, and basic and diluted net income from loss per share in accordance with GAAP and additionally on a non-GAAP basis. Our non-GAAP presentations exclude the effects of stock-based compensation expense and its related tax effect; accruals under our equity settled performance-based bonus plan; and expenses related to a prior patent litigation matter with Silicon Laboratories; and outstanding patent litigations with CrestaTech.

  • Management believes that this non-GAAP information is useful because it can enhance the understanding of the Company's ongoing economic performance, and MaxLinear therefore uses non-GAAP reporting internally to evaluate and manage the Company's operations.

  • MaxLinear has chosen to provide this information to investors to enable them to perform comparisons of operating results in a manner similar to how the Company internally analyzes its operating results.

  • The full reconciliation of the GAAP to non-GAAP financial data can be found in our earnings release issued earlier today. The earnings release and reconciliation is available on our website, and we ask that you review them in conjunction with this call.

  • Now let me turn the call over to Kishore Seendripu, CEO of MaxLinear.

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • Thank you, Nick. And good afternoon, everyone. Thank you all for joining us today. Before jumping into the financial highlights, I would like to note that the first quarter of 2014 proved to be another record revenue quarter for MaxLinear.

  • We grew our top line over 22% year-on-year, outpacing many of our semiconductor peers. Our sequential revenue growth in the quarter reflected a return to strong growth in cable which easily offsets seasonal weakness in hybrid TV tuner shipments.

  • In particular, we experienced strength in DOCSIS 3.0 modem and gateway application, cable HD DTA and modest contribution with the initial phase of the ramp and satellite gateway shipment. We believe that satellite TV applications represent both an exciting new interest in the market and a multi-year revenue growth opportunity for MaxLinear.

  • Moving to the financial specifics, net revenue in the first quarter of 2014 was $32.5 million, up approximately 3% from fourth-quarter 2013. Up 22% the year ago quarter and at the high end of our guidance.

  • GAAP and non-GAAP gross margins in the first quarter were 62%, again at the high end of our guidance. GAAP net loss in the first quarter was $0.9 million, or $0.02 per diluted share. And non-GAAP net income for the first quarter was $3.7 million, or $0.10 per diluted share.

  • I will now discuss current trends in our business. In the first quarter of 2014, cable returned to growth and stood at 67% of our total revenue, versus 65% in the prior quarter. Consistent with our expectations for the first quarter of 2014, cable grew approximately 7% sequentially, led by DOCSIS 3.0 applications.

  • Based on our current bookings, billings and backlog, we believe that cable revenues are poised to grow again in the second quarter of 2014. Adam, our CFO, will provide more detail in his second quarter 2014 guidance a bit later.

  • In the first quarter, we experienced strong demand for our 8-channel DOCSIS 3.0 solution. Along with momentum shift in demand towards our 24-channel Full-Spectrum Capture cable receivers, addressing 1 gigabit per second DOCSIS 3.0 cable modem applications.

  • Recently, we also announced that Skyworth, a leading OEM in China, selected our 8-channel RF cable receiver SoC for a new family of DOCSIS 3.0 consumer premises equipment.

  • Providing up to 200 megabits per second data speed, Skyworth's CM4100 product serves as a cable broadband network controller for residential and small office applications.

  • Now moving to the terrestrial and satellite TV markets, based on our prior guidance we had anticipated a 10% sequential decline in our combined terrestrial and satellite revenues for the first quarter of 2014.

  • However, positively, the continuing initial ramp of our satellite gateway solution, combined with (inaudible) our terrestrial set top box business strongly offsets normal seasonal declines in our hybrid TV solutions. As a result, combined terrestrial satellite revenues declined only 4% sequentially.

  • As we look forward, we continue to experience strong demand for our 65 nanometer super radio tuners, addressing a broad range of hybrid TV and set-top box applications.

  • In the satellite TV market, we continue to see solid follow-through on the early ramp of our Full-Spectrum Capture receiver gateway applications.

  • We're also excited about the growing design win pipelines that we have garnered at major global satellite pay-TV operators for our digital channel-stacking SoC, addressing the large satellite digital outdoor unit market.

  • Here are some specific highlights of our target addressable market expansion and design win successes in satellite TV. In the quarter, we announced that Belgium's Unitron Group selected MaxLinear's digital channel-stacking single chip for its new multi-dwelling unit satellite outdoor unit applications. Unitron's multi-dwelling unit solution is capable of distributing 24 channels of satellite content on a single cable to individual apartments from the outdoor dish.

  • Additionally, GT-SAT International announced designs with MaxLinear's Full-Spectrum Capture satellite receiver in its digital outdoor unit to enable multi-channel distribution to the home via a single cable connection.

  • Lastly, we recently announced a reference design and partnership with STMicroelectronics for next generation set-top box and gateway platforms. These reference platforms span the full range of pay-TV operator end products from midrange high definition set-top box applications to really high-end ultra-high definition 4K video gateway.

  • In conclusion, we are pleased to have delivered record revenue of $32.5 million, which represents 22% growth year on year. Our revenue growth was driven by a strong resumption of cable shipments, coupled with a sub-seasonal decline in terrestrial revenues, and the early phase ramp of our satellite gateway shipment. We are encouraged by the ongoing initial ramp of satellite gateway products.

  • We are also excited about the growing funnel of design wins in the satellite TV digital outdoor units market. We continue to evaluate and target new addressable markets for our industry-leading broadband full-spectrum capture RF frontend technology platform in areas beyond cable, terrestrial, and satellite TV applications.

  • Now let me turn the call over to Mr. Adam Spice, our Chief Financial Officer, who will review the financials and our forward guidance.

  • Adam Spice - CFO

  • Thank you, Kishore. I will first review our results and then briefly discuss our outlook.

  • In summary, our Q1 revenue was $32.5 million, which was at the high end of our prior guidance. As Kishore noted, strength in cable data and DT applications and the continued ramp of satellite gateway solutions more than offset seasonal softness in hybrid TV.

  • Now moving to the rest of the income statement. GAAP and non-GAAP gross margin for the first quarter were approximately 62% of revenue, at the high end of our prior guidance of 61% to 62% on both a GAAP and non-GAAP basis.

  • This compares to GAAP and non-GAAP gross margin of 61% in the fourth quarter of 2013 and GAAP and non-GAAP gross margin of 63% in the year ago quarter. Our Q1 GAAP operating expenses declined $900,000 sequentially to $20.9 million, which includes $3.4 million of stock-based compensation; $900,000 for an accrual related to our performance-based equity bonus plan for 2014; and $300,000 in net professional fees related to the Cresta Technologies patent litigation matter which was disclosed in our previously filed 10-K for the year ending December 31, 2013.

  • Consistent with 2013, payouts under our 2014 performance bonus plan are expected to be settled in shares of MaxLinear stock. Net of these items, OpEx was $16.3 million, which was $600,000 lower than our flat guidance relative to Q4's OpEx of $16.9 million, and up from $14.2 million in the year before.

  • First quarter GAAP OpEx attributable to R&D was down approximately $1.6 million quarter on quarter and up $1.6 million year on year to $13.1 million, which included stock-based compensation of $2.2 million and $500,000 related to the 2014 bonus plan.

  • Excluding stock-based compensation and bonus plan accruals, R&D was down approximately $1.2 million on the quarter-on-quarter basis to $10.4 million. Within this sequential decrease in R&D spending, decreases in tape-out and related expenses and stock-based bonus accruals were offset somewhat by modest increases in design tools and payroll step-ups relative to Q4 2014.

  • First quarter GAAP OpEx attributable to SG&A increased approximately $700,000 quarter on quarter, and up $400,000 year on year to $7.8 million, which included $1.2 million in stock-based compensation; $400,000 in bonus plan accruals; and $300,000 in net professional fees related to previously mentioned CrestaTech patent litigation.

  • Excluding stock-based compensation, bonus plan accruals, and the net professional fees related to CrestaTech patent litigation, SG&A was up $600,000 on a quarter-on-quarter basis to $5.9 million, driven by the full quarter effect of incremental hiring and higher patent filing expenses, and facilities expansion-related expenses in both India and Carlsbad.

  • At the end of the first quarter 2014, our head count was 343, as compared to 337 at the end of the fourth quarter of 2013, and 281 in the year ago quarter. We continue to add R&D head count globally to staff growth initiatives and are able to derive operating leverage in R&D by appropriately balancing hiring across our R&D centers in the US, India, China, and Taiwan.

  • GAAP loss from operations was $800,000 in Q1, compared to the loss from operations of $2.7 million in the prior quarter. And a loss of $2.2 million in Q1 of last year. Non-GAAP income from operations was $3.8 million in Q1, compared to income from operations of $2.3 million in the prior quarter and $2.6 million in Q1 of last year.

  • GAAP net loss per share in the first quarter was $0.02 on shares outstanding of 34.5 million. GAAP net loss per share included $3.4 million of stock-based compensation expense; $900,000 for an accrual related to our 2014 performance-based bonus plan; and $300,000 net professional fees attributable to the CrestaTech patent litigation.

  • This compares to GAAP net loss per share of $0.08 in the prior quarter. And a net loss of $0.07 in Q1 of last year. Net of these items, our non-GAAP earnings per share in Q1 were $0.10 on fully diluted shares of 38.3 million, compared to $0.06 per share in Q4 of 2013, and $0.07 per share in Q1 of last year.

  • Moving to the balance sheet and cash flow statements, our cash equivalents and investments balance increased $2.3 million sequentially to approximately $89 million, which is an increase of $12 million as compared to $77 million in Q1 of last year.

  • Our cash generated from operations in the first quarter of 2014 was $4.1 million, approximately $1.3 million more than in the fourth quarter of 2013, and $3.5 million more than the year ago quarter.

  • Our days sales outstanding for the fourth quarter was approximately 58 days or one day more than the previous quarter, and approximately four days more than in the year ago quarter.

  • As a reminder, we only recognize revenue on a sell-through basis. And as such, we are not subject revenue fluctuations caused by changes in distributor inventory levels.

  • Our inventory turns were 4.7 in the first quarter, compared to 5.1 turns in the fourth quarter, and improved relative 4.2 turns in the year ago quarter.

  • That leads me to our guidance. We expect revenue in the second quarter of 2014 to be in the range of $34.5 million to $36 million. Built into this range we expect cable revenues to increase approximately 10% sequentially and terrestrial and satellite revenues to increase approximately 5%.

  • More specifically, within cable we expect strength to be concentrated in cable data applications. And within terrestrial and satellite, we expect growth in set-top box applications revenue and the continued early ramp of our satellite gateway receiver product.

  • We expect GAAP and non-GAAP gross profit percentage to be approximately 61% to 62% in the second quarter. Our gross profit percentage could vary plus or minus 2%, depending on product mix and other factors. In particular, the relevant contribution of cable, terrestrial, and satellite applications.

  • We continue to fund strategic development programs targeted at delivering attractive top line growth in 2014 and beyond, with a focus on increasing the operating leverage of the business.

  • We expect Q2 2014 GAAP operating expense to increase approximately $1.7 million relative to Q1 2014 quarter to $22.6 million, driven by a seasonal step-up in payroll-related expenses which include the full quarter effect of our incremental Q1 hires, anticipated Q2 hiring, and our annual merit cycle.

  • We similarly expect that Q2 2014 non-GAAP operating expenses will increase sequentially by approximately $1.2 million to $17.5 million. With the increases in previously referenced payroll-related spending in addition to the increase in project-driven design tools, contract resources, and prototyping expenses related primarily to bringing additional satellite offerings to market.

  • In closing, we are pleased to report record Q1 revenues which were at the high end of our guidance. And with accompanying gross margins that were in our long-term targeted range.

  • We remain excited by the follow through of the revenue ramp in the satellite TV market, accompanied by a growing design win pipeline for this new TAM expansion opportunity. And with that, I'd like to now open the call for questions. Operator?

  • Operator

  • Thank you, sir. (Operator Instructions) Anil Doradla, William Blair. Please go ahead.

  • Anil Doradla - Analyst

  • Hey, guys, big congratulations for you and the whole team. I don't think many companies have reported so well, at least in this earnings cycle.

  • Couple of questions. Kishore, can you talk quickly about how much is the 24-channel penetrated? And also, what were the booking trends? And yes, I saw the guidance, but want to know a little bit about the visibility into the June quarter. And I have a follow up.

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • Thank you, Anil. We are very pleased to know that on the cable broadband data applications we're increasingly seeing the market move towards a 24-channel adoption.

  • We -- I would say that the momentum is shifting right now as we speak. But in general, on a -- as an overall picture, our total cable data shipment right now we're about 30% odd and increasing our 16- to 24-channel devices shipping for the data applications.

  • So but to give a little bit more color, we believe that at the end of the year we will have a substantial majority of our shipments on a run rate basis moving over to 24-channel devices.

  • Anil Doradla - Analyst

  • And you guys have a competitive lead there today?

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • Absolutely. Today MaxLinear, along with the Intel platform, is a very, very elegant solution. With the MaxLinear single-chip 24-channel (inaudible) coupling nicely with the 24-channel 1 gigabit per second data capable Intel packet.

  • And together we -- it's a very, very nice, elegant solution. And as against our competitors who have to use a minimum of three chips to incorporate the same function at a much -- at a higher cost base than we are today for our customers.

  • Anil Doradla - Analyst

  • Great. And, you know, actually (multiple speaker) -- sorry, yes?

  • Adam Spice - CFO

  • I was going to answer the question on the visibility going into the quarter. You asked kind of what the bookings look like. So going into the quarter, we were booked around 75% to the midpoint of our guidance range. And then as we kind of entered this call, we were around 90% (inaudible).

  • Anil Doradla - Analyst

  • Wow. Fantastic. And then on the satellite front, expectations are about $5 million to $12 million for 2014. That's how we were at least earlier in the year. How are we tracking on that front? And do you think as we exit the year we'll be higher than this?

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • So, Anil, I think the [net interval] on the satellite ramp has not changed. But as you recall, we have started shipping to a major European operator and to a major OEM in Europe.

  • And then we are starting to do pilot runs for another major operator that's not in Europe. And the big ramp happens in the third-, fourth-quarter timeframe. So the bulk of the $5 million to $7 million on a run rate basis will be really encountered in the fourth quarter of this year. Primarily in gateway applications for the full-spectrum capture satellite receivers.

  • But we also hope to have a meaningful statement or note with the beginning of shipment of the satellite outdoor unit SoC chips that we are now very pleased with the design in pipeline. And the design wins garnered and momentum -- all pretty much -- many of the major pay-TV operators, if not all of the ones that we really care about.

  • Anil Doradla - Analyst

  • Great. And congrats once again.

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • Thank you very much.

  • Adam Spice - CFO

  • Thanks, Anil.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. Tore Svanberg, Stifel Nicolaus. Please go ahead.

  • Tore Svanberg - Analyst

  • Yes, congratulations on the strong results. A few questions here. First of all, Kishore, you had previously talked about servers provider deployment where you had very high share. And you were expecting that to maybe come down as the year progressed. Can you maybe update us on that please?

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • Sure. So, I think we have in the various investor conferences that have we have attended, we have given a nice update to the story. All in all, the good news is that it's a very neutral effect on the Company, with the changes that have happened at only one major operator, namely Comcast.

  • If you recall, our media server gateway opportunities are with many major operators. They span Comcast, Rogers, Liberty Global Assets in Europe. So all in all last year we were about $15 million to $17 million in media server gateway shipments.

  • This year, we expect that only on the Comcast account we will be sharing the revenues in the media server gateway opportunity related to the X1 platform. MaxLinear would be receiving the data portion of that which is called the XB socket for the broadband data gateway and whereas the video portion will be shared with our competitor. So on a volume basis, a neutral impact on the revenue.

  • However, we already have noted that with the new design in the chip ASPs have decreased from what used to be around $10 to about $5 to $7. We will be seeing the impact of that revenue decrease in this particular year.

  • Maybe, Adam, you could simplify that a little bit for me?

  • Adam Spice - CFO

  • Well, no, I think another way to answer that question, Tore, is the fact that it's becoming increasingly difficult for us to differentiate between the revenue going into these media server deployments.

  • Because some operators have these two-box strategies where you have the main box plus the bolt-on additional channel box that Kishore was mentioning XB and Comcast case. But basically there's -- and there's other boxes where it's a unified box where it's all in one in which case we're (inaudible) that develop very nicely.

  • So in some cases you'll see a deployment where, yes, you're out of the main box but you've got the data bolt-on box. And for us, actually, we're seeing strength in our data business, as we talked about earlier in the call.

  • And it's been getting increasingly difficult to see whether that data strength is coming from a pure data modem gateway play not associated with a media server deployment or whether it's in conjunction with a media server deployment as a bolt-on box.

  • So net net what we see is very strong demand for video-over-IP type of services. And so that's driving our data business very strongly. And so you can associate that with media server deployments and also excluding media server deployment.

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • So I just want to add that so far currently the exception is Comcast which is doing this two-box strategy. The other major operators are still deploying unified media server gateways with new designs that are deploying 24 channels. And there we will be seeing strengthening in our shipment volume as the year progresses.

  • So we do expect to see mild revenue decrease associated with the Comcast ASP decrease. But beyond that we feel very good where we are positioned to serve our platform.

  • Tore Svanberg - Analyst

  • Yes, that's really helpful. My second question is on your Q2 guidance by segment. So you're guiding your terrestrial business to grow 5% sequentially. Does that mean all sub-segments there are going to be up? Or is there still some seasonality with the (inaudible) TV business?

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • So, we would like to report that we had some -- we are seeing the resumption of strong growth in ISDB-T broadcast. It just will be standard for Latin America shipments.

  • We are seeing growth in that socket that's driving primarily our growth in the terrestrial segment. Also, we're also seeing -- related to Q1 we are seeing hybrid TV to be approximately flat.

  • But as a combined what we are seeing increases in shipments for the satellite gateway -- in the ramp of the satellite gateways. And together we expect to see growth in our terrestrial revenues.

  • Tore Svanberg - Analyst

  • Very good. Last question here, you sound incrementally more upbeat about design wins for your outdoor business. Should we -- could we expect to see some revenues in outdoor this year? Or are you still expecting that primarily is going to happen in 2015?

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • I think it's very safe to say that we expect the strong ramp to happen in 2015. But we do expect to see some small revenues in Q4 that will be the beginning of the initial phase of outdoor unit deployments with major operators wherein there could be some pilot quantities shipping and we'll have very good confidence of the ramp happening in 2015 from Q1 onward.

  • So it will not be like what we saw in the satellite gateway shipments last year in Q4. Let's say a sub-billion dollar type of revenues if -- and that will be actually a very strong indicator of a good ramp playing out in 2015.

  • I do want to make this comment, though, that by far we have a significant lead on our competitors. We're the only ones that are actually designing and are in a serious phase of validation and completion of validation.

  • Our competitors are anywhere between six to nine months behind us in the best case scenario to be even at that stage that we are in. So feel very good that this brand new class of satellite outdoor units, that'll be the major deployments. And all the bigger operators would have the MaxLinear products as their primary solution. At least for the first phase of the roll out of these operators.

  • Tore Svanberg - Analyst

  • Sounds good. Very nice quarter, guys. Thank you.

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • Thank you.

  • Adam Spice - CFO

  • Thanks, Tore.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. Quinn Bolton, Needham & Company. Please go ahead.

  • Quinn Bolton - Analyst

  • Let me offer my congratulations on the nice results and guidance. Kishore, just wanted to come back to the data cable side of the business and ask, it sounds like you're clearly seeing a transition from 8-channel to 24-channel and wondering is that the primary revenue driver for cable this year? Or you talked about a pretty efficient solution in partnership with Intel. Do you think some of your strength might represent or might be a factor of market share gains by Intel on the 24-channel systems?

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • I would not be forthright if I said that we don't expect share gains. But it's hard to model that at this stage. But the fact that the industry wants to transition to the 24-channel broadband gateways should result in some favorable share gains for MaxLinear.

  • But the overall market Intel (inaudible) bigger than we had assumed. And so we're going to see some industry-level growth through on the broadband gateways. So we feel very good that both those things will happen in a positive way, driving healthily our cable revenue growth in the data segment.

  • Quinn Bolton - Analyst

  • So just a clarification. You said the market is bigger than you expected. Is that specifically for DOCSIS modems or is that for gateways? Can you just clarify that?

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • So for DOCSIS, we had always talked about DOCSIS market being about 30 million to 35 million units. But all new data indicates around 40 million to 45 million units.

  • So that would indicate a nice growth opportunity for the data gateways.

  • Quinn Bolton - Analyst

  • Got it. Okay, so some market growth, potentially some share gains, and certainly some content as you shift to 24 channels.

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • Two parts. One is the -- three parts. To some your stuff what you just told, the market is bigger. Therefore, there's going to be market growth with penetration.

  • Second, the market's [transit to] 24 channels. And third, that 24 channel transition will help us gain share along with the ASP increase.

  • Quinn Bolton - Analyst

  • Got it. Great. And then just a second question on the hybrid tuner opportunity. I think you said it was going to be roughly flattish in the June quarter. It was obviously seasonally slower in March.

  • Can you give us some sense, how do you see that business just say on a year-over-year basis in 2014? I think previously you thought that that could be an opportunity in the maybe plus $15 million range in 2014. Is that still a good estimate? Or is that perhaps aggressive at this point?

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • Nothing has changed related to the macro sort of statement we had made. We expect hybrid TV tuner to grow very healthily this year. Around $15 million last year, it's going to be about $25 million this year.

  • It's just an artifact of what I call timing that I said that the expected hybrid TV revenue in second quarter would be approximately flat with the first quarter. We actually feel -- not feel, based on the design win pipeline and the rate of shipment, our terrestrial business would grow at a faster rate than our cable business this particular year.

  • Quinn Bolton - Analyst

  • Great.

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • So we see a healthy growth in our terrestrial business this year. Much healthy growth.

  • Quinn Bolton - Analyst

  • Okay. And then just lastly for Adam, obviously, a big step up in OpEx here in the June quarter. Some of that merits hiring. Do you think it flattens out a little bit in the second half of the year or can you give us any sense for the pattern of OpEx beyond the June quarter?

  • Adam Spice - CFO

  • Well, I think that one thing that's worthy of note is that in the Q2 guidance that we provided, there really isn't any tape-out expenses in that quarter of note. So I think we will have tape-outs in the second half of the year.

  • We can't say with exact precision where they fall in Q3 versus Q4 but you can assume that there will be a step up in tape-out expenses in the second half of the year. But I don't think that anything that we're looking at really takes us outside of I think where most people have their estimates for OpEx for the year.

  • So I think we're in pretty good shape. It's just that it's going to be a little bit challenging right now if you want to try to pin me down as to where those tape-outs are going to occur whether it's Q3 and Q4, just Q3, or just Q4.

  • Quinn Bolton - Analyst

  • Got it. Okay.

  • Adam Spice - CFO

  • But I think you can assume that we've got a couple million dollars worth of tape-outs that are going to work their way into the model -- expense in the second half of the year.

  • Quinn Bolton - Analyst

  • Great.

  • Adam Spice - CFO

  • But, again, that's consistent with kind of the division we provided before as to where we think OpEx ends up for the entire year.

  • Quinn Bolton - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. Gary Mobley, Benchmark. Please go ahead.

  • Gary Mobley - Analyst

  • Let me lend my congratulations as well. As you're aware, there's a lot of consolidation going on amongst the different cable MSOs. And I'm wondering if you've seen at this point or expect to see, based on your Intel in the supply chain, any sort of disruption in the hardware inventory held by these different operators? And how that may impact MaxLinear.

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • So, Gary, we are not seeing any negative impact of those announcements. If anything, based on the growth we have seen in this Q1 and the good bookings and billings backlog that Adam just mentioned, we feel that there is no such disruption that we can see.

  • I just want to characterize is that you have heard of the Netflix buying dedicated bandwidth below the top, whether it's from Comcast or Verizon, it's all good for us. Because the broadband data band is -- that will drive this, we are front and center of those capabilities.

  • With regards to Time-Warner versus Comcast, we're actually in both the platforms. And earlier we were not present strongly at Time-Warner a year before but last year we started penetrating them.

  • So it's not -- so we should not see any disruption because we are ramping into that account. And all of these, we are major supply to the end Comcast account. So if anything, we expect that if they standardize around a common platforms that we would be beneficiaries of that in a bigger way.

  • But it's very hard to predict right now when that would happen. I think to see any impact is a little bit of a ways away to talk about.

  • Gary Mobley - Analyst

  • Okay. All right, fair enough. And question for you, Adam. You under-spent on non-GAAP OpEx by about $600,000 for the just reported quarter. And then now a lot of other semiconductors have under-spent that OpEx as well. Many of them citing difficulty in hiring.

  • Is that a situation that you're running into? And does that explain the under-spend in Q1 and perhaps the incremental in the June quarter as well?

  • Adam Spice - CFO

  • So, I would say there's a couple factors. I don't think that we're having difficulty in hiring. I think that we're actually having a lot of success in hiring very high caliber people.

  • I think what happened in Q -- not I think. I know what happened in Q1 was that we had a little bit more attrition early in the quarter. And the backfilling of those heads took place later in the quarter and earlier in Q1.

  • So it's really a timing issue more than anything else. I would say that we've not really noticed any significant difference in the hiring environment as far as getting quality people to join the Company.

  • And I think on the attrition, those are always a case-by-case basis where it's not necessarily competitively market-driven. It's performance-driven in some cases.

  • I would say that part of what also factored into the shortfall on spending in the quarter was, as I mentioned when Quinn asked his question earlier about difficulty in timing tape-outs, we make some assumptions about whether or not a tape-out's going to happen in the quarter. Sometimes we don't need to do a tape-out that we assumed that we might need to do.

  • So there were a few factors in there. But the primary driver of the shortfall was really head count-related. It was timing more than anything else.

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • I just want to add, Gary, to Adam's point. And the other factor is that when we go over hiring, we allocate our hiring between India, China, Taiwan, and the US centers.

  • And this time we also benefitted from a healthy mix of the leverage that came into hiring where much of the hiring happened in the India design center relative to the United States.

  • And we are actually very pleased with the outcome that our strategy of leverage of R&D in the India center is going very well. We have got a brand new facility there. We have grown to more than 50 people now in India.

  • And if that mix continues, we would be able to execute on our products without seeing any of the hiring challenges that other companies may be facing as well.

  • Gary Mobley - Analyst

  • All right. Thanks, guys.

  • Adam Spice - CFO

  • Thanks, Gary.

  • Operator

  • Ross Seymore, Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

  • Ross Seymore - Analyst

  • I want to echo everybody else's congrats on a strong report and guide. A lot of good bottoms up questions have been asked so I just want ask more of a top down one on the revenue side of things.

  • You before had laid out a trajectory to get to your $80 million revenue run rate in satellite and compared that to how you would do that in cable. Can you remind us how that's playing out? And is the trajectory a little more back-end loaded for all the reasons you said before? Basically any changes in that trajectory, is my first question. Thanks.

  • Adam Spice - CFO

  • Ross, I would say that really nothing has changed on that front. I would say that we've been pretty bullish about satellite becoming the next cable-sized opportunity for us.

  • And as we've talked about, cable in 2014 is approaching a $100 million run rate business. It's very nice margins. We think that satellite business can do every bit what cable did over a roughly similar timeframe. Let's call that a four-year cycle. And we're just starting in that. We'll call this year one of that process.

  • And as Kishore mentioned earlier, we are very encouraged by the pipeline of design wins and the early lead that we have in the market particularly in the outdoor units. And also on the front-ends for the gateway.

  • So I think nothing has changed. In fact, we feel very, very positive about where we are. And we'd love it if nothing -- if satellite became a bigger business than cable. We wouldn't be disappointed with that, either. So no, nothing's changed.

  • Ross Seymore - Analyst

  • So if I put that all together, what sort of gross margin implications do we have if we think conceptually for 2000 -- it sounds like more 2015 than 2014. As far as just generally year over year as satellite becomes bigger.

  • Adam Spice - CFO

  • I don't think you'll see much influence to the margins from satellite in 2014. Again, just because of the sheer numbers, right? We've got a pretty big set of legacy businesses in cable and terrestrial.

  • So I would say that you shouldn't really notice any positive or minus specifically from satellite contribution. I would say in 2015, that's really hard to say. I would say that we believe that long-term satellite's going to have a very consistent margin profile to our cable business.

  • There's a lot of commonalities. They're both operator-driven businesses. They're very high quality markets. So we think longer term we -- that it's going to be pretty consistent with our overall corporate average.

  • Ross Seymore - Analyst

  • I guess my last question, just a little more nearer-term. You mentioned that you thought terrestrial would probably grow faster than cable this year. I assume some of that satellite's in the ISDB-T [diet] GTE coming back. Any sort of implications as far as what that means for gross margin?

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • No. I think we've got it all nicely bracketed. I think even though terrestrial set-top box will be the nice -- will grow as strongly as hybrid TV tuners.

  • I think we feel pretty good that we'll be around the corporate margin that we've given a long-term range within 60% to 62%. And there is a variance around the guidance we gave you a plus-minus 1% or 2%. However, we feel that we should hold to the margins that we have delivered so far even with the growth in terrestrial business.

  • Just want to reiterate that even in the terrestrial markets relative to the competition we have an incredibly aggressive competitive [die] side and package cost structure.

  • And we do the same thing the terrestrial ISDB tuner-demodulator SoC. So we are very confident about the margins even with the ASPs being pretty heavily pressured due to competition in the hybrid TV market.

  • And we are gaining market share as we speak. And we feel that we will do a very good job of revenue increase in both hybrid TV and terrestrial set-top boxes this year.

  • Adam Spice - CFO

  • Yes, I think to add a little more color to that, Ross. I think that one of the questions earlier to Kishore was the -- I would say the revenue slope of hybrid TV in 2014, given the growth expectations and given the fact that it was obviously Q2 guidance being flat to Q1.

  • So obviously that implies a reasonable hockey stick in the back half of the year for hybrid TV. It's no surprise that hybrid TV does come at lower gross margins than corporate average because of the dynamics that Kishore just mentioned.

  • So absolutely, growth in terrestrial, particularly in hybrid TV, does create pressure on the overall corporate margin. But we do feel like given all the puts and takes that we believe that we're pretty well positioned to maintain a relatively stable gross margin.

  • But again, that's probably the most difficult to predict part of our business. And there is a lot of forecast volatility around ASPs and mix impacts. So I think you highlight a good question. I don't think we can give 100% confidence in saying that it won't have a more negative impact than we're currently seeing as it increases in the mix.

  • But then again, it is very difficult, also, right now to predict what that mix is going to be because of the strength that we've had in cable recently, too. So a lot of puts and takes but definitely increase in the mix of terrestrial does put pressure on the margins. But we don't think it pushes it out of the long-term range that we've been talking about, which is the 60% to 62% in 2014.

  • Ross Seymore - Analyst

  • Which I believe is where everybody is already, estimate-wise. So perfect. That is exactly what I need to know. Thank you.

  • Adam Spice - CFO

  • Thanks, Ross.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. Alex Gauna, JMP Securities. Please go ahead.

  • Alex Gauna - Analyst

  • Thank you and great quarter. I just wanted to know, Kishore, I know you talked about this. And I believe, Adam, you also mentioned that you recognize revenue on sell-through. So you have pretty good confidence that there's no inventory in your direct channel.

  • But even though you haven't said you've seen any effect from the Comcast-Time-Warner merger, have you actually gone out into the channel and tried to vet at the end system box level that we don't have the operators building up any safety stock around this? Thank you.

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • Alex, as far as we are aware, that is not happening. They're (inaudible) growth in their revenues on the data side. And they're now (inaudible) a gigabit per second sort of modems with the 24 channels.

  • And our own inquiries our own customers, if anything, they're accelerating the [PO] process. We are -- as Adam said, as of this call, we are 90% booked to the forecast. So I believe that is not the case.

  • However, today's the NCTA show in Los Angeles. And I'll be meeting them again today and I'll make sure to ask that question.

  • Alex Gauna - Analyst

  • Okay, great. Thank you. And then, I know you talked about the growing funnel of design wins that you've got going on in the ODU market. At this juncture, are you the only player in the market in any size with right now deployable-grade silicon or are you sharing that market? And maybe an idea on what the share might be for you as you roll towards the end of the year. Thank you.

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • So, Alex, I can say honestly with the hand on my heart here that we are the only deployable-grade silicon out there in the marketplace right now, despite our competitors' pronouncements of various nature.

  • So I feel that we have the design win momentum. We are the first ones. Everybody is designing and trialing and evaluating. We have got a lead of about six to nine months on anybody out there in the most competitive scenario.

  • So we feel pretty good that we are proliferating our designs and operators beyond the top tier ones now to the next tier operators in the world on the satellite outdoor unit. So we feel very good about it.

  • Alex Gauna - Analyst

  • Okay. That's all I got. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. Jay Srivatsa, Chardan Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

  • Jay Srivatsa - Analyst

  • Congrats on the numbers and guidance. Kishore, on the satellite business, beyond the initial design wins in Europe and in China, what are some of the challenges you face as you look at further penetration in that market?

  • And what do you think MaxLinear has to do to get further traction in the satellite set-top box space?

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • So, Jay, I just want a clarification. First part of the question you said satellite market in Europe and China. Were you referring to the set-top box or the outdoor unit markets?

  • Jay Srivatsa - Analyst

  • The set-top box. I'm sorry. Set-top box.

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • Okay. So I can say to you safely right now that we are not participating in the Chinese set-top box market for satellite. But that tends to be really, really low-end standard definition (inaudible) boxes that go to the grey market. And we don't want nothing to do with that one.

  • So on the -- we are really focused on the tier one operators and the tier two operators. We got strong design wins with the major operators in Europe. The biggest ones. And we are working with the United States ones as well, and those in Latin America as well.

  • I think you asked about what steps we need to make sure that we got good growth. What are the challenges. I think the big challenge is timing.

  • A lot of things come together to -- the shipments to start. One is the hardware platform validation. The other one is software. Software is the biggest, longest lead time.

  • And I would say that we have crossed all those hurdles and on one particular platform we already started shipping to major operators in Europe. We are on the brink of starting some shipments to major operator in Latin America. There's some trial revenue already in -- that we have recorded.

  • So I feel that it's just now about timing. The design wins are in place. The operators are going through the validation of the software. And we feel that much of the risk that we would impose on our side is gone completely. It's all about our timing of deployments now.

  • Jay Srivatsa - Analyst

  • All right. Speaking of China, there is a mandate that's fallen in place starting this year about integrated TVs above a certain size. And then next year I think it's pretty much encompasses all the TVs.

  • How do you see that mandate impacting MaxLinear's position there? And do you see a steep ramp up coming? Or is this more of a gradual transition you expect?

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • So we expect a gradual transition. However, as the ramp happens, we are very -- we are one of big beneficiaries. If you look at all the major TV makers in China, MaxLinear's a primary chip supplier. And we got great traction there, so we should benefit from it.

  • However, I would caution you that the Chinese market, there is constant ASP pressure. So net we will grow our revenues in China as a benefit of this mandate.

  • There are always mandates in China but the ramps happen slower than what the government would let you think they're going to happen. So I think it will be a slower ramp than has been set up based on the hype that's surrounding it. But we're already seeing the benefit of it with the growth of our revenues in China on the DTMB digital iDtb boxes, iDtb televisions.

  • Jay Srivatsa - Analyst

  • Okay. Last question from me. You mentioned the Netflix and Comcast agreement. As you know, Amazon has launched its own set-top box for streaming video.

  • Do you sense a sense of urgency amongst Comcast and Time-Warner to upgrade their networks to higher speed data modems and DOCSIS modems? Or do you feel like the -- what you had talked about earlier in the year continues to be the way the transition will happen?

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • I think that they now have a cadence of upgrading their bandwidth almost every 18 months in deployment. That'll continue to be the case. What I want to talk to you about is moving forward from 24 channels, where does it go next? They would try to go to 32 channels. And that probably could start shipping at the end of the year or the middle of next year. And then a year later you would have DOCSIS 3.1 coming into play, and that will increase the broadband data bandwidth even more.

  • So I feel that this is continuing to -- this need for increase the bandwidth every 12 to 18 months on the cable operators, is continue to persist. And we would be strongly benefit from those upgrade cycles.

  • Jay Srivatsa - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. And at this time there are no additional questions. I'd like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.

  • Kishore Seendripu - CEO

  • Thank you, everyone, for attending the call today. As a reminder, over the next couple of months we'll be attending the Deutsche Bank One-on-One conference in San Francisco on May 15th. The B. Riley conference in Los Angeles on May 21st. The Benchmark One-on-One conference in Milwaukee on May 29th. And the William Blair conference in Chicago on June 10th.

  • So we have a heavy investor calendar up in front of us. And we are looking forward to those meetings to share our story with all of you. So we thank you all for joining us today. And we look forward to reporting on the progress to you in the next quarter as well. Thank you, operator. And that's the end of the call today.

  • Operator

  • Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude the MaxLinear Q1 earnings conference call. Thank you very much for your participation. You may now disconnect.